We still need a center unless we throw Williams to the wolves right away.

I expect the starters will be:

Nelson
Mullins
Dorsey
Collier
Wight

But I could be completely wrong

(05-10-2022 12:43 PM)Tribe32 Wrote:  We still need a center unless we throw Williams to the wolves right away.

I expect the starters will be:

Nelson
Mullins
Dorsey
Collier
Wight

But I could be completely wrong

x2 except I think that *starting* lineup has plenty of size. A 6'8" and 6'9" on the court at the same time is plenty in the CAA. I also see Karasinski, Lowe, and Case working into that lineup all between 6'5" and 6'7" in which case you can rest either Collier or Wight as needed.

I see the following for depth:

PG Nelson-Rice-Mullins
SG Mullins-Case-Lowe
SF-Dorsey-Case-Karasinski-Lowe
PF-Collier-Karasinski
C-Wight-Collier-Williams

This is an attempt at giving a realistic vision of how each player may fit into Dane's offensive/defensive "schemes" (if they can even be given that much credit). Given we don't have much more overall size than last year, I expect to see Karasinski as the second biggest player on the court at times given I see Williams needing a year to develop. Offensively, if these guys develop as shooters you could create a couple deadly "small" lineups. I'm really holding out that Karasinski is the next Omar Prewitt, buy maybe I'm being too optimistic.

I could see Rice starting over Nelson.

I also think we'll have a decent amount of flexibility, and could adjust our starting lineup depending on the opponent; 10 different players started a game last season.

Official write up and release on Dorsey’s signing. Here is Dane’s quote on him:

"We are very excited to welcome Gabe to the Tribe Basketball family," Fischer said. "He is a big wing whose offensive game is built off his ability to shoot the ball. Gabe has a tremendous work ethic and can defend multiple positions. He will give us some flexibility with our lineup next season because of his size and skill set. Gabe has a reputation as a big-time shooter, but he has the ability to impact winning in a number of ways because of his toughness, focus and outstanding leadership skills."

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(05-10-2022 01:21 PM)TDenverFan Wrote:  I could see Rice starting over Nelson.

I also think we'll have a decent amount of flexibility, and could adjust our starting lineup depending on the opponent; 10 different players started a game last season.

I know that loyalty doesn't mean that much to a lot of people but I sincerely hope that Rice is given every opportunity to be a very important part of next year's rotation and is given the chance to play a bunch of minutes at the point. By the end of the season I felt that Tyler had actually grown as a player throughout the season while most of our players had stagnated/regressed. In fact, if you had told me that I could only pick two players from last year's team to go forward with to this season, I would have picked Tyler and Ben. I think that Tyler has the chance to be a very good CAA point guard and that he has a big upside.

What I sincerely hope is that Dane and his coaching staff are able to ingrain in this new team that we will have 8-10 starters and that everything starts with energy and defense. There are now enough pieces in place that I think that we could be a solid CAA team next year with a lot of depth and flexibility. If we were good and deep enough that no player had to play more than 25-28 minutes a game next year, I would be very happy.

(05-10-2022 01:18 PM)W+M4TW Wrote:  

(05-10-2022 12:43 PM)Tribe32 Wrote:  We still need a center unless we throw Williams to the wolves right away.

I expect the starters will be:

Nelson
Mullins
Dorsey
Collier
Wight

But I could be completely wrong

x2 except I think that *starting* lineup has plenty of size. A 6'8" and 6'9" on the court at the same time is plenty in the CAA. I also see Karasinski, Lowe, and Case working into that lineup all between 6'5" and 6'7" in which case you can rest either Collier or Wight as needed.

I see the following for depth:

PG Nelson-Rice-Mullins
SG Mullins-Case-Lowe
SF-Dorsey-Case-Karasinski-Lowe
PF-Collier-Karasinski
C-Wight-Collier-Williams

This is an attempt at giving a realistic vision of how each player may fit into Dane's offensive/defensive "schemes" (if they can even be given that much credit). Given we don't have much more overall size than last year, I expect to see Karasinski as the second biggest player on the court at times given I see Williams needing a year to develop. Offensively, if these guys develop as shooters you could create a couple deadly "small" lineups. I'm really holding out that Karasinski is the next Omar Prewitt, buy maybe I'm being too optimistic.

I am also hoping that Karasinski is Omar 2.0. I think that the fact that he will no longer have to be looked to to play like a senior from the get go will enhance his overall performance next year.

I'm certainly by no means an expert. I guess I can present what I hope happens with the lineups.

PG - Rice
** Nelson could certainly start here. My hope is that a more mature Rice comes in this season. Better for the future of the program if Rice does his job and we get solid contributions from a seasoned Nelson. Is Lowe able to contribute as a freshman? **

SG - Case
** I think Case is the wildcard at the SG spot. He is tall, athletic, and potentially a 3 level scorer. Mullins provides solid play and leadership, but I don't think he is quite as dynamic. With a healthy offseason, hopefully Milkereit returns capable of contributing. Ayesa is Ayesa. There is a real possibility that we run a 3 guard lineup with a good bit of mixing personnel at the 1 through 3 position **

SF - Dorsey
** Aside from Ayesa, Gabe is the only other shooting specialist on the squad. Not known for his penetration, it will be interesting to see if he is comfortable being more than a catch and shoot guy. I'm excited to see Karasinski play. I think he gets on the floor early and is a contributor sooner than later **

PF - Collier
** Collier is our most athletic and physical post presence. Not a strong perimeter player, but if we are doing it right, he will do just fine attacking the glass on both ends. **

PF/C - Wight
** Our most experienced and offensively polished interior player. He is poised for a big year in the CAA. I envision a 3 headed monster rotation of Wight, Collier, and Williams inside. In a pinch, Karasinski may be able to steal you some minutes here in a small lineup. **

(05-10-2022 09:52 AM)3xTribe Wrote:  I'm here for the 2022 rotation speculation. Whadya got, Mr. Joolius and other experts?

Your assignment: rank order in terms of playing time, or first five/second five.
Ben Wight
Tyler Rice
Jake Milkereit
Miguel Ayesa

Jack Karsinski
Charlie Williams
Chase Lowe

Noah Collier
Matteus Case
Chris Mullins
Anders Nelson
Gabe Dorsey

A non expert reply:

PG Nelson
SG Mullins
Swing Karasinski
SF Collier
SF Wight

Rotation: Rice, Lowe, Case at G
Williams at PF

Bench: the rest

I am listing them at what I see as their true positions where they have a chance to excel. I think D will have to change and play zone or pack line.
In an ideal world all hear guys pan out are in shape hungry and D can press for 40 minutes.

Not feelin it like some of you. Wish I was

O'Conner article on the transfers in and out
https://richmond.com/sports/college/will...user-share

(05-11-2022 10:29 AM)mrjoolius Wrote:  O'Conner article on the transfers in and out
https://richmond.com/sports/college/will...user-share

Thanks for posting.

I really think it is silly when players who have graduated and choose to use the extra COVID year somewhere else are counted as "transfers."

W&M is really losing 4 players to transfer and 2 to graduation.

Another thing that I find aggravating is the angst over the portal turning hyperbolic based on the last 2 years' experience. Once the extra COVID year eligibility is all gone and there is a track record of players entering the portal not finding a home, I think things will settle down and there will be a lot less players entering the portal.

Of course I also pray that programs that bring in transfers wholesales aren't successful. This might help with stability. Schools like Texas Tech having success with a roster full of first year transfer players only encourages movement.

Yuri flipped to UMass-Lowell.

https://twitter.com/iamyurishamar/status...YmXqc1othw


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Thatcher Stone to Stonehill
https://www.instagram.com/p/CdbOxX5ObuW/...JmNzVkMjY=

I'm surprised we haven't heard much from Harvey/Blair (unless I've just been out of the loop).I would've thought that both would garner some level of interest as grad transfers.

I wonder if they're waiting out the process, if a team winds up with an open scholarship (like we have at the moment), there seems to be almost no downside to tossing it to a grad transfer on a flyer.

(05-04-2022 08:39 AM)TribePride52 Wrote:  All CAA Towson G Cam Holden has entered the portal.

https://twitter.com/jeffborzello/status/...mQOFzWwEVw

Cam Holden has withdrawn from the portal and will return to Towson.

https://mobile.twitter.com/jakelieberman...0096024577

(05-11-2022 02:55 PM)TDenverFan Wrote:  I'm surprised we haven't heard much from Harvey/Blair (unless I've just been out of the loop).I would've thought that both would garner some level of interest as grad transfers.

I wonder if they're waiting out the process, if a team winds up with an open scholarship (like we have at the moment), there seems to be almost no downside to tossing it to a grad transfer on a flyer.

Since they are both graduating, I have wondered how committed they were to the process. They may have just been testing the waters to see what would turn up, as an option, as a part of the graduation and moving on process.


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UNCW picks up (3,2)Y 6’1 Donovan Newby from Milwaukee.

https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/pla...wby-1.html
https://www.verbalcommits.com/players/donovan-newby

“After all of the movement, William & Mary put together a remarkably balanced roster, class-wise. Of 12 scholarship players, two are graduates, one is a senior, three are juniors, three are sophomores and three are freshmen. Fischer appears to have executed well through the spring personnel challenges.”

Obviously want the most talented student-athletes we can get, but this is a bonus and great achievement. I’m curious if any of the new guys will step up and lead - something we missed last season.

I think the additions of Nelson and Mullins can help in the leadership capacity. Both have a lot of basketball minutes logged and have come from captain roles on their previous teams. I would have thought Brandon Carroll would have been that guy this past season. But, at least from the outside, he didn't seem to bring that vocal leadership or push guys to be accountable. Last season the team deferred to Kochera who was our top returning player but not necessarily the best leader. Fingers crossed a couple of guys rise to the role.

(05-13-2022 06:52 AM)Tribal Wrote:  “After all of the movement, William & Mary put together a remarkably balanced roster, class-wise. Of 12 scholarship players, two are graduates, one is a senior, three are juniors, three are sophomores and three are freshmen. Fischer appears to have executed well through the spring personnel challenges.”

Obviously want the most talented student-athletes we can get, but this is a bonus and great achievement. I’m curious if any of the new guys will step up and lead - something we missed last season.

It does appear to be a good recruiting job.....now let's see if he can coach.

I know people's opinions are mixed on the newcomers. To me, at least in theory, the offseason additions have been a huge success.
* As O'Conner showed, the classes are all now balanced.
* On a team lacking senior leadership, they've brought in 2 former team captains and 1,000 pt scorers. Both will either start or majorly contribute. Something that you couldn't have said about the rising senior class at the end of the season.
* They've brought in 3 guys from P5 programs that all seem to be high ceiling guys if they all hit. At a minimum, the overall team athleticism has definitely been raised.
* The incoming freshmen are all leaders that come from winning programs. Most with all-state accolades.
- From an athleticism and skill standpoint, I think we are an improved team. Is it enough? Can Dane coach up this group? Will this squad develop the chemistry elusive to last year's edition? Those are the questions we need to answer.