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Game #27 at UNCW
Our best hope is 7-24 headed to a play in and that’s being optimistic. What’s that, 12-34 over two seasons? It’s really a shame.
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RE: Game #27 at UNCW
(02-14-2022 06:18 PM)FauqDawg10 Wrote:  
(02-14-2022 05:49 PM)Tribe32 Wrote:  
(02-14-2022 05:38 PM)Prestige Wrote:  From someone I know within the athletics department, Blair, Harvey, and Hermanovskis have all been healthy for quite some time. There have been numerous disagreements between the players and coaching staff all year that have caused some of the questionable rotations. It's certainly not the best look for Fischer, who was supposed to be better with player relations than our previous head coach.

If this is true, I won't be surprised to see some folks enter the transfer portal once the season ends.

I'm guessing Blair and Harvey wouldn't be interested in a fifth year here whether the staff wanted them back or not (and Carroll can't). No one else on the roster could possibly think they're getting more minutes somewhere else. This team is 5-22 in a mid-major conference! The staff would love to play anyone good, anyone at all, for 30 minutes a game. This should really be a selling point to dozens of disgruntled P5 underclassmen who had all their minutes stolen by surprise-return fifth-year seniors and insta-transfers--any position, 1-5, you would instantly be a starter here. We've got guys in our rotation who couldn't even walk on at those schools.

Now, we may lose guys who got in arguments with the staff, got their feelings hurt, had a halfway decent spot open up somewhere closer to home. That happens, and we're expecting that with the no-sitting-out. But the non-seniors can't reasonably think they're being jobbed on minutes. I would be shocked if any of them were playing significantly more minutes a game somewhere else next year.

You are assuming that players won't be fleeing a sinking ship.
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RE: Game #27 at UNCW
(02-14-2022 05:15 PM)Zorch Wrote:  Other aspects besides the bad call:


UNCW is not the best team in the league. Hofstra and Towson might be better (even if they don’t pass the Hawks in the standings).

When UNCW is playing their game on offense, they are the best team in the conference which is why we beat every team and were undefeated our first nine games in the CAA. it wasn't luck or an accident.

Our game is driving to the basket, scoring, kicking out for three's, or drawing fouls. We started the year jacking three's and jumpers and we were losing. We then went from almost 30 three point attempts per game to 19, and ran off a school record 12 wins in a row. We have reverted back to three pointers and jumpers and are back to averaging 25 three point attempts per game, and as a result we aren't playimg our best. Add in a game today while students were in class and fans were at work today, and you saw a lackluster UNCW team.

The Towson game at UNCW Thursday night will be PACKED and our team feeds off the best atmosphere in the CAA. We will see if UNCW gets back to what helped us win 12 in a row or if we have reverted to what was costing us games to start the year. If we beat Towson we have a pretty good shot at winning the regular season title and we'll have a pretty good case for claiming we are the best team in the conference.
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RE: Game #27 at UNCW
(02-14-2022 07:50 PM)Tribal Wrote:  Our best hope is 7-24 headed to a play in and that’s being optimistic. What’s that, 12-34 over two seasons? It’s really a shame.
Unless the team wins out and takes the NCAA title … then it will match Swenson’s 23 loss mark for season. Swenson did it twice. this team will break that mark. 326 in RPI.
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RE: Game #27 at UNCW
(02-14-2022 06:22 PM)Zorch Wrote:  
(02-14-2022 05:26 PM)WMInTheBurg Wrote:  
(02-14-2022 05:15 PM)Zorch Wrote:  2. Too many missed free throws in regulation. Too many unforced turnovers. This game was absolutely winnable in regulation.

We missed 4 FT in the first half and 1 in the second half. Without looking, the second half was probably our best foul shooting half of the season.


That still totals 5 misses in regulation. UNCW missed 3. Do the math, in a tie game. In fact, UNCW missed only 3 all game, including going 8-8 in OT. They finished 24-27 (88.9%) while W&M went 19-26 (73.1%).

3 point misses were more important. If you can practice enough to hit all your free throws you can practice enough to hit all your three pointers. I blame the coaches.
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RE: Game #27 at UNCW
(02-14-2022 11:04 PM)WMInTheBurg Wrote:  .... I blame the coaches.

We can definitely agree on that!
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RE: Game #27 at UNCW
I blame experience. Seahawks are Grad/seniors/juniors. Tribe is Sophomores/Freshman because the previous AD blew up the program.
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(02-15-2022 08:01 AM)Sitting bull Wrote:  ... because the previous AD blew up the program.

We can definitely agree on that!
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RE: Game #27 at UNCW
Coach confirmed in pregame show that he requested the odd start time of 2pm so the players could attend class today and UNCW agreed. Obviously it neutralized their tremendous home court advantage but the right decision for our players- a thank you to them.
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(02-15-2022 10:38 AM)wmmii Wrote:  Coach confirmed in pregame show that he requested the odd start time of 2pm so the players could attend class today and UNCW agreed. Obviously it neutralized their tremendous home court advantage but the right decision for our players- a thank you to them.

+1 to UNCW.
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RE: Game #27 at UNCW
(02-14-2022 07:57 PM)Tribe32 Wrote:  
(02-14-2022 06:18 PM)FauqDawg10 Wrote:  
(02-14-2022 05:49 PM)Tribe32 Wrote:  
(02-14-2022 05:38 PM)Prestige Wrote:  From someone I know within the athletics department, Blair, Harvey, and Hermanovskis have all been healthy for quite some time. There have been numerous disagreements between the players and coaching staff all year that have caused some of the questionable rotations. It's certainly not the best look for Fischer, who was supposed to be better with player relations than our previous head coach.

If this is true, I won't be surprised to see some folks enter the transfer portal once the season ends.


I'm guessing Blair and Harvey wouldn't be interested in a fifth year here whether the staff wanted them back or not (and Carroll can't). No one else on the roster could possibly think they're getting more minutes somewhere else. This team is 5-22 in a mid-major conference! The staff would love to play anyone good, anyone at all, for 30 minutes a game. This should really be a selling point to dozens of disgruntled P5 underclassmen who had all their minutes stolen by surprise-return fifth-year seniors and insta-transfers--any position, 1-5, you would instantly be a starter here. We've got guys in our rotation who couldn't even walk on at those schools.

Now, we may lose guys who got in arguments with the staff, got their feelings hurt, had a halfway decent spot open up somewhere closer to home. That happens, and we're expecting that with the no-sitting-out. But the non-seniors can't reasonably think they're being jobbed on minutes. I would be shocked if any of them were playing significantly more minutes a game somewhere else next year.

You are assuming that players won't be fleeing a sinking ship.
At this point it's hard to imagine either Blair or Harvey coming back for the 5th year even though their 4th year has been a disappointment in terms of injury, illness and
suspension. Blair should be a starter as he is the probably 4th best player on the team behind Wight, Carroll and Kochera and Harvey should be in the normal 8-9 man rotation.
Next year's team on paper does not look to be any better and perhaps even worse than this year. The only 2 starters look to be Kochera and Wight. This team needs an immediate upgrade with a proven point guard and an athletic wing similar to Carroll. It would have to come via the Transfer portal. I think Williams is probably a redshirt candidate at this point and Karasinki I think will be in the rotation, but may not be a starter in his freshman year. Perhaps another scholarship will open up so that we can bring in another big if Harvey does not return.
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RE: Game #27 at UNCW
(02-15-2022 02:26 PM)leemichael2 Wrote:  Next year's team on paper does not look to be any better and perhaps even worse than this year. The only 2 starters look to be Kochera and Wight. This team needs an immediate upgrade with a proven point guard and an athletic wing similar to Carroll. It would have to come via the Transfer portal. I think Williams is probably a redshirt candidate at this point and Karasinki I think will be in the rotation, but may not be a starter in his freshman year. Perhaps another scholarship will open up so that we can bring in another big if Harvey does not return.

Agree we need a PG plus PF from the portal. Not sure why you are ignoring Lewis who has been forced to play both PG and SG. Rice has good assist to turnover ratio but agree his quickness is hurting his D. Hatton will improve and his footwork is good just needs to build strength and not dribble when open under basket.
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RE: Game #27 at UNCW
Re: comments throughout regarding Coach Fischer.

Seems if both Tony's payout and Coach Fischer's contract both end in 2024 it wouldn't make much sense to can Dane before just to be left strapped for cash for a new coach. Our offense looks clueless most of the time and the only positive about the defense is that is more than nonexistent, which it was under Shaver.

Clearly the timing of Shaver's firing was a huge mistake, but Dane should probably be given a full cycle of recruits before being ultimately evaluated...'20-'21 was hardly even a season.

It's a discouraging time to be a Tribe fan (especially having been seconds away from rushing the floor in Bmore in '14), but there are bright spots on this team. If our core (Kochera-Wight-Lewis-Rice/Covington) don't transfer and we can snag a transfer or two...there's no obvious reason we couldn't be a top half team.
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RE: Game #27 at UNCW
(02-15-2022 02:54 PM)wmmii Wrote:  
(02-15-2022 02:26 PM)leemichael2 Wrote:  Next year's team on paper does not look to be any better and perhaps even worse than this year. The only 2 starters look to be Kochera and Wight. This team needs an immediate upgrade with a proven point guard and an athletic wing similar to Carroll. It would have to come via the Transfer portal. I think Williams is probably a redshirt candidate at this point and Karasinki I think will be in the rotation, but may not be a starter in his freshman year. Perhaps another scholarship will open up so that we can bring in another big if Harvey does not return.

Rice has good assist to turnover ratio but agree his quickness is hurting his D.

Rice's assist to turnover ratio is horrible. He's averaging 1.1 assists to turnover. That ranks 338 out of 350 players that are tracked by the NCAA. Contrast that to the guy from Richmond who leads the nation at 3.81.
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RE: Game #27 at UNCW
(02-15-2022 05:27 PM)Tribe32 Wrote:  
(02-15-2022 02:54 PM)wmmii Wrote:  
(02-15-2022 02:26 PM)leemichael2 Wrote:  Next year's team on paper does not look to be any better and perhaps even worse than this year. The only 2 starters look to be Kochera and Wight. This team needs an immediate upgrade with a proven point guard and an athletic wing similar to Carroll. It would have to come via the Transfer portal. I think Williams is probably a redshirt candidate at this point and Karasinki I think will be in the rotation, but may not be a starter in his freshman year. Perhaps another scholarship will open up so that we can bring in another big if Harvey does not return.

Rice has good assist to turnover ratio but agree his quickness is hurting his D.

Rice's assist to turnover ratio is horrible. He's averaging 1.1 assists to turnover. That ranks 338 out of 350 players that are tracked by the NCAA. Contrast that to the guy from Richmond who leads the nation at 3.81.
Our PG play has been plain awful this year. I think we can agree that Yuri is not going to be much better than he already is in the next 2 years. I would agree that Rice has played somewhat better as of late with his TO down and a slight improvement in his shooting but still takes ridiculous shots or gets his shot blocked when he penetrates. Imagine a PG of the caliber of Luke Loewe or David Cohn could do via the transfer portal next year for this team. Rice has a shoot-first mentality as opposed to a pass-first one. I almost think we are better off with Julian Lewis running the point. I think at this point he is the most talented of the freshman as the most athletic and a better defender. He just needs to improve his shooting. I also would agree that Hatton should get more playing time especially if they are not going to play Harvey.
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RE: Game #27 at UNCW
(02-14-2022 07:05 PM)Zorch Wrote:  So, serious question, which is the real UNCW? The one who shot lights out and sank 17 threes against us in the first game or the one who sank only 2 threes in the first half today (before getting 8 total, I think)? Or is it a third team who doesn't shoot threes but goes for points in the paint and fast break points from turning teams over (as some on your board claim). I don't know why you wouldn't be that team against W&M...the surest road to success against us.

Per this metric, we're a team that tends to play "up" to higher competition:

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We're at our best when we're driving and not settling for the first available shot. We chucked up too many 3's against you guys, and Jaylen Fornes was particularly bad, going 0-7 from the perimeter.

I think Siddle will make the adjustments and we'll play much better against Towson. But it'll take a tremendous effort to win that one, even at home.
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