Here's a prediction:

Liberty will become the new "La Tech of CUSA" and contain an administration that starts playing the superiority game with schools from other conferences. They actually have the money to play whoever the hell they want, and I don't think fans care one iota who they play in football. We'll grow to hate them over the years.

As for the real La Tech, I think that their administration is likely to start slowly recognizing that they are going to need local games in the future and start reaching out to nearby CUSA and SBC schools to try and cover for a football schedule where the closest conference member is 7 or 8 hours away. They'll start seeing the success of playing local games and eventually cave and play ULM. Some of their fan base will still be nuts, but it will be far more manageable.

(02-13-2022 11:05 AM)mturn017 Wrote:  

(02-13-2022 10:29 AM)solohawks Wrote:  Very interesting

So if CUSA has said yes to Liberty on the front end, a divison of Marshall, ODU, JMU, Liberty, MTSU, and WKU would have been on the table

Yes but I think ODU and especially JMU both saw that newly reformed CUSA as being less stable Marshall likely too. When you add in the difference in the TV deals all signs were pointing to the SB as being the preferred option.

Very early on our AD publically stated that conference stability was a big factor for JMU in evaluating opportunities. JMU fans took this as a way of saying we were headed to the SunBelt. Both the AAC and CUSA were not stable.

JMU has been looking for a tight regional home for FBS for a while, and our AD has said this many time - we referred to it as the “mythical east coast conference” on our boards. I’m sure some of these discussions with ADs at places like ODU, App and Marshall had been going on for a long time, possibly years before this played out.

ODU and JMU have a long history together, going back to CAA basketball rivalries, and there were also discussions about JMU joining CUSA with ODU, though not sure how serious that was.

Georgia State was also in the CAA football conference with both JMU and ODU for a short period, and we had some great games vs App St in FCS. I would think JMU and App St have spoken frequently also.

Not saying JMU was the deciding factor, but certainly SBC was very attractive to us, and we preferred it over CUSA with Liberty.

(02-13-2022 11:40 AM)chiefsfan Wrote:  Here's a prediction:

Liberty will become the new "La Tech of CUSA" and contain an administration that starts playing the superiority game with schools from other conferences. They actually have the money to play whoever the hell they want, and I don't think fans care one iota who they play in football. We'll grow to hate them over the years.

As for the real La Tech, I think that their administration is likely to start slowly recognizing that they are going to need local games in the future and start reaching out to nearby CUSA and SBC schools to try and cover for a football schedule where the closest conference member is 7 or 8 hours away. They'll start seeing the success of playing local games and eventually cave and play ULM. Some of their fan base will still be nuts, but it will be far more manageable.

I see Liberty throwing their weight around within CUSA but I don’t see them being outwardly antagonistic to other schools or conferences. ODU has a good relationship with them and will continue to play them OOC, which I don’t have a problem with.

(02-13-2022 11:46 AM)JMURocks Wrote:  

(02-13-2022 11:05 AM)mturn017 Wrote:  

(02-13-2022 10:29 AM)solohawks Wrote:  Very interesting

So if CUSA has said yes to Liberty on the front end, a divison of Marshall, ODU, JMU, Liberty, MTSU, and WKU would have been on the table

Yes but I think ODU and especially JMU both saw that newly reformed CUSA as being less stable Marshall likely too. When you add in the difference in the TV deals all signs were pointing to the SB as being the preferred option.

Very early on our AD publically stated that conference stability was a big factor for JMU in evaluating opportunities. JMU fans took this as a way of saying we were headed to the SunBelt. Both the AAC and CUSA were not stable.

JMU has been looking for a tight regional home for FBS for a while, and our AD has said this many time - we referred to it as the “mythical east coast conference” on our boards. I’m sure some of these discussions with ADs at places like ODU, App and Marshall had been going on for a long time, possibly years before this played out.

ODU and JMU have a long history together, going back to CAA basketball rivalries, and there were also discussions about JMU joining CUSA with ODU, though not sure how serious that was.

Georgia State was also in the CAA football conference with both JMU and ODU for a short period, and we had some great games vs App St in FCS. I would think JMU and App St have spoken frequently also.

Not saying JMU was the deciding factor, but certainly SBC was very attractive to us, and we preferred it over CUSA with Liberty.

The Sunbelt East is the closest we are going to get to that mythical east coast Conference

Its a solid bloc

(02-13-2022 11:03 AM)MUHERD76 Wrote:  I don't recall hearing Missouri State or UTSA specifically reaching out. AD's and school presidents talk all the time about different scenarios and possibilities so it wouldn't surprise me if they had.

One thing I will tell you....when JMU made it known to the CAA that they were making the move, Delaware did reach out and wanted to be a part of the additions to the Sun Belt but were told that the conference was going to hold at 14. Delaware made it known that they were very interested in making the move in the future if the situation ever presented itself.

That being said....Delaware is going to have a lot of competition for a spot in the future if that ever happened but they are working on facilities to position themselves for such a move in the future. We'll see what happens.

In the last few years Ive come to the conclusion that Delaware is in the same boat as Youngstown State, Montana and McNeese State.

When it was first known in late 1994 or early 1995 that Marshall was going to jump IA, those four schools were in the national championship picture each year and four programs I thought could easily make the jump along with Appy, GA Southern and Middle Tenn.

Around 2004/2005 I realized that most likely it was never going to happen from at least McNeese State and Youngstown State. From that point it took another 9/10 years for Appy State and GA Southern to finally get fed up with the lazy adds of the Southern Conference to finally leave and jump.

Even if Youngstown wanted to jump now they have no place. The only conference that is an option is the MAC and they don't need another Ohio based school. Montana has always been tough to figure out. They had the facilities and winning to move up to the WAC about the same time frame that Boise did. Well I guess it was the Big West at first. But their Admin on down to the fan base have always like to play in the small pond, I guess they like the safety of IAA.

I guess what Im saying is Delaware, Montana, Youngstown State and McNeese State have all done nothing while watching programs around them leave. And now there is almost no more room at the IA Inn and even if they wanted to jump now there are no rooms to check in to.

When we played in the Southland with McNeese they pretty well sold out their stadium. When we bumped to 1AA USL and McNeese were the only to schools that had the attendance to stay 1A. Louisiana(USL) has never been 1AAand McNeese decided to stay in the Southland with the rest of us. Now they average less than half of what they did then. Its a shame. stAte tried their best to stay 1A and McNeese gave it away.

I feel like Liberty will use what influence it has and operate like it always did but don’t underestimate CUSA’s administration’s ability to f something up.

(02-13-2022 10:13 AM)MUHERD76 Wrote:  I've been reading quite a bit of misinformation as to how the Marshall/ODU/JMU pair with Southern Miss to the Sun Belt happened. I just want to clear this up so everyone understands what happened. I've started this based on a comment from a Liberty fan that stated Marshall and ODU were a lot closer to staying in CUSA as some may think which he stated in the Chris Vannini Tweet thread....which is not actually true.


Just a little back story that some may not know to get this started......Both Marshall and ECU were very instrumental in getting ODU up from FCS and into CUSA. Both schools have large numbers of alumni in the Tidewater area and all three had similar goals as it pertains to college athletics. A guy named Terry Holland (Former AD at ECU) along with Marshall's former AD Mike Hamrick were the driving force to getting CUSA to accept the idea of taking in ODU. It was a fight with CUSA to get them in. CUSA was ok with Charlotte (Who had been a former CUSA member) but was not as keen on ODU but finally gave in.

That scenario is what brought Marshall and ODU so close. Especially after ECU moved on to the American. When the latest round of deflections happened, Marshall and ODU stood in solidarity. They knew that whatever happened, they were doing it together. Both had already started talks with the Sun Belt (along with Southern Miss and a few others) behind the scenes in the summer of 21. Both Marshall and ODU liked the idea of being with a conference that included App State, Coastal, Georgia Southern, Georgia State etc. As did the fans. Both schools have large alumni bases in these areas and recruit these areas as well.

The TV deal that the Sun Belt was able to negotiate with ESPN was attractive and was a big driving force for the move as fans and alumni from both schools had gotten tired of watching games on Facebook, stadium etc,

When the six schools got selected from the American, it was then that both schools new it was likely they were moving on. For them to have any chance to stay, they were adamant that at least half of any new additions would come from the east.

So here is the kicker......When Marshall and ODU made their request of schools to be added to CUSA.....they were JMU and Liberty. CUSA was ok with JMU, but they did not want Liberty at first. To save face, Liberty said they preferred to "stay independent" when they were turned down.

Other eastern options were out as CUSA had lost its leverage to pull a school from the Sun Belt or the Mac so those options were gone and never was an option. At that point, Marshall and ODU had essentially told CUSA they were looking at other options (meaning the move to the Sun Belt).

The Sun Belt for Marshall and ODU was always the preferred option so they could get with like minded schools. Both schools along with JMU and Southern Miss had large alumni bases in Sunbelt Occupied locations (Myrtle Beach, Boone/Charlotte, Atlanta and other gulf coast cities.). They both wanted to get back with schools that they had a history with (App/Georgia Southern/Troy etc). The Sunbelt is where they were going and they knew it but they had to do their "due diligence" based on pressure from each schools board of governors.

The MAC made a last minute play (Not knowing that Marshall and ODU had been in talks with the Sun Belt) but the two schools had no real interest in going to the MAC. They wanted to be in the south. Going to the Sunbelt was what we were doing and they let CUSA know.

As a "last minute" Hail Mary, CUSA had now decided they would allow Liberty to join hoping Marshall and ODU would have a change of mind and reconsider staying. It was to late. The decision had been made and we were moving on along with JMU and Southern Miss to the Sun Belt. The rest is history.

It surprises no one to hear CUSA leadership bungled a potential stay.

(02-13-2022 12:03 PM)solohawks Wrote:  

(02-13-2022 11:46 AM)JMURocks Wrote:  

(02-13-2022 11:05 AM)mturn017 Wrote:  

(02-13-2022 10:29 AM)solohawks Wrote:  Very interesting

So if CUSA has said yes to Liberty on the front end, a divison of Marshall, ODU, JMU, Liberty, MTSU, and WKU would have been on the table

Yes but I think ODU and especially JMU both saw that newly reformed CUSA as being less stable Marshall likely too. When you add in the difference in the TV deals all signs were pointing to the SB as being the preferred option.

Very early on our AD publically stated that conference stability was a big factor for JMU in evaluating opportunities. JMU fans took this as a way of saying we were headed to the SunBelt. Both the AAC and CUSA were not stable.

JMU has been looking for a tight regional home for FBS for a while, and our AD has said this many time - we referred to it as the “mythical east coast conference” on our boards. I’m sure some of these discussions with ADs at places like ODU, App and Marshall had been going on for a long time, possibly years before this played out.

ODU and JMU have a long history together, going back to CAA basketball rivalries, and there were also discussions about JMU joining CUSA with ODU, though not sure how serious that was.

Georgia State was also in the CAA football conference with both JMU and ODU for a short period, and we had some great games vs App St in FCS. I would think JMU and App St have spoken frequently also.

Not saying JMU was the deciding factor, but certainly SBC was very attractive to us, and we preferred it over CUSA with Liberty.

The Sunbelt East is the closest we are going to get to that mythical east coast Conference

Its a solid bloc

Totally agree and I like all the teams on the west side. Solid setup.

(02-13-2022 11:03 AM)MUHERD76 Wrote:  

(02-13-2022 10:39 AM)Yosef181 Wrote:  

(02-13-2022 10:13 AM)MUHERD76 Wrote:  I've been reading quite a bit of misinformation as to how the Marshall/ODU/JMU pair with Southern Miss to the Sun Belt happened. I just want to clear this up so everyone understands what happened. I've started this based on a comment from a Liberty fan that stated Marshall and ODU were a lot closer to staying in CUSA as some may think which he stated in the Chris Vannini Tweet thread....which is not actually true.


Just a little back story that some may not know to get this started......Both Marshall and ECU were very instrumental in getting ODU up from FCS and into CUSA. Both schools have large numbers of alumni in the Tidewater area and all three had similar goals as it pertains to college athletics. A guy named Terry Holland (Former AD at ECU) along with Marshall's former AD Mike Hamrick were the driving force to getting CUSA to accept the idea of taking in ODU. It was a fight with CUSA to get them in. CUSA was ok with Charlotte (Who had been a former CUSA member) but was not as keen on ODU but finally gave in.

That scenario is what brought Marshall and ODU so close. Especially after ECU moved on to the American. When the latest round of deflections happened, Marshall and ODU stood in solidarity. They knew that whatever happened, they were doing it together. Both had already started talks with the Sun Belt (along with Southern Miss and a few others) behind the scenes in the summer of 21. Both Marshall and ODU liked the idea of being with a conference that included App State, Coastal, Georgia Southern, Georgia State etc. As did the fans. Both schools have large alumni bases in these areas and recruit these areas as well.

The TV deal that the Sun Belt was able to negotiate with ESPN was attractive and was a big driving force for the move as fans and alumni from both schools had gotten tired of watching games on Facebook, stadium etc,

When the six schools got selected from the American, it was then that both schools new it was likely they were moving on. For them to have any chance to stay, they were adamant that at least half of any new additions would come from the east.

So here is the kicker......When Marshall and ODU made their request of schools to be added to CUSA.....they were JMU and Liberty. CUSA was ok with JMU, but they did not want Liberty at first. To save face, Liberty said they preferred to "stay independent" when they were turned down.

Other eastern options were out as CUSA had lost its leverage to pull a school from the Sun Belt or the Mac so those options were gone and never was an option. At that point, Marshall and ODU had essentially told CUSA they were looking at other options (meaning the move to the Sun Belt).

The Sun Belt for Marshall and ODU was always the preferred option so they could get with like minded schools. Both schools along with JMU and Southern Miss had large alumni bases in Sunbelt Occupied locations (Myrtle Beach, Boone/Charlotte, Atlanta and other gulf coast cities.). They both wanted to get back with schools that they had a history with (App/Georgia Southern/Troy etc). The Sunbelt is where they were going and they knew it but they had to do their "due diligence" based on pressure from each schools board of governors.

The MAC made a last minute play (Not knowing that Marshall and ODU had been in talks with the Sun Belt) but the two schools had no real interest in going to the MAC. They wanted to be in the south. Going to the Sunbelt was what we were doing and they let CUSA know.

As a "last minute" Hail Mary, CUSA had now decided they would allow Liberty to join hoping Marshall and ODU would have a change of mind and reconsider staying. It was to late. The decision had been made and we were moving on along with JMU and Southern Miss to the Sun Belt. The rest is history.

I'm wondering if you have any additional insight on who the others were. From hints on this board over the past 6 months, I've assumed the schools who entertained the idea of joining the Belt and were in contact with the conference were:

- Southern Miss
- Marshall
- ODU
- JMU
- WKU
- UTSA
- UAB
- FAU
- Charlotte
- Missouri State

Is this list correct?

I don't recall hearing Missouri State or UTSA specifically reaching out. AD's and school presidents talk all the time about different scenarios and possibilities so it wouldn't surprise me if they had.

One thing I will tell you....when JMU made it known to the CAA that they were making the move, Delaware did reach out and wanted to be a part of the additions to the Sun Belt but were told that the conference was going to hold at 14. Delaware made it known that they were very interested in making the move in the future if the situation ever presented itself.

That being said....Delaware is going to have a lot of competition for a spot in the future if that ever happened but they are working on facilities to position themselves for such a move in the future. We'll see what happens.

IF we expand, Western should be priority #1. The other option should be up to the Sun Belt west. But WKU is IMHO a priority.

So that means Delaware would have a hard time, unless WKU we're the western add.

Also, imagine Delaware getting in before La Tech....the meltdown would be EPIC.

(02-13-2022 12:20 PM)gdunn Wrote:  I feel like Liberty will use what influence it has and operate like it always did but don’t underestimate CUSA’s administration’s ability to f something up.

I could very much see Ian McCaw become CUSA shadow commissioner. I have little doubt we’ll see the basketball tournament, baseball tournament and many others in Lynchburg very soon. But hey, if he’s able to reconnect them with ESPN it may be worth it.

(02-13-2022 12:40 PM)rileylives Wrote:  

(02-13-2022 11:03 AM)MUHERD76 Wrote:  

(02-13-2022 10:39 AM)Yosef181 Wrote:  

(02-13-2022 10:13 AM)MUHERD76 Wrote:  I've been reading quite a bit of misinformation as to how the Marshall/ODU/JMU pair with Southern Miss to the Sun Belt happened. I just want to clear this up so everyone understands what happened. I've started this based on a comment from a Liberty fan that stated Marshall and ODU were a lot closer to staying in CUSA as some may think which he stated in the Chris Vannini Tweet thread....which is not actually true.


Just a little back story that some may not know to get this started......Both Marshall and ECU were very instrumental in getting ODU up from FCS and into CUSA. Both schools have large numbers of alumni in the Tidewater area and all three had similar goals as it pertains to college athletics. A guy named Terry Holland (Former AD at ECU) along with Marshall's former AD Mike Hamrick were the driving force to getting CUSA to accept the idea of taking in ODU. It was a fight with CUSA to get them in. CUSA was ok with Charlotte (Who had been a former CUSA member) but was not as keen on ODU but finally gave in.

That scenario is what brought Marshall and ODU so close. Especially after ECU moved on to the American. When the latest round of deflections happened, Marshall and ODU stood in solidarity. They knew that whatever happened, they were doing it together. Both had already started talks with the Sun Belt (along with Southern Miss and a few others) behind the scenes in the summer of 21. Both Marshall and ODU liked the idea of being with a conference that included App State, Coastal, Georgia Southern, Georgia State etc. As did the fans. Both schools have large alumni bases in these areas and recruit these areas as well.

The TV deal that the Sun Belt was able to negotiate with ESPN was attractive and was a big driving force for the move as fans and alumni from both schools had gotten tired of watching games on Facebook, stadium etc,

When the six schools got selected from the American, it was then that both schools new it was likely they were moving on. For them to have any chance to stay, they were adamant that at least half of any new additions would come from the east.

So here is the kicker......When Marshall and ODU made their request of schools to be added to CUSA.....they were JMU and Liberty. CUSA was ok with JMU, but they did not want Liberty at first. To save face, Liberty said they preferred to "stay independent" when they were turned down.

Other eastern options were out as CUSA had lost its leverage to pull a school from the Sun Belt or the Mac so those options were gone and never was an option. At that point, Marshall and ODU had essentially told CUSA they were looking at other options (meaning the move to the Sun Belt).

The Sun Belt for Marshall and ODU was always the preferred option so they could get with like minded schools. Both schools along with JMU and Southern Miss had large alumni bases in Sunbelt Occupied locations (Myrtle Beach, Boone/Charlotte, Atlanta and other gulf coast cities.). They both wanted to get back with schools that they had a history with (App/Georgia Southern/Troy etc). The Sunbelt is where they were going and they knew it but they had to do their "due diligence" based on pressure from each schools board of governors.

The MAC made a last minute play (Not knowing that Marshall and ODU had been in talks with the Sun Belt) but the two schools had no real interest in going to the MAC. They wanted to be in the south. Going to the Sunbelt was what we were doing and they let CUSA know.

As a "last minute" Hail Mary, CUSA had now decided they would allow Liberty to join hoping Marshall and ODU would have a change of mind and reconsider staying. It was to late. The decision had been made and we were moving on along with JMU and Southern Miss to the Sun Belt. The rest is history.

I'm wondering if you have any additional insight on who the others were. From hints on this board over the past 6 months, I've assumed the schools who entertained the idea of joining the Belt and were in contact with the conference were:

- Southern Miss
- Marshall
- ODU
- JMU
- WKU
- UTSA
- UAB
- FAU
- Charlotte
- Missouri State

Is this list correct?

I don't recall hearing Missouri State or UTSA specifically reaching out. AD's and school presidents talk all the time about different scenarios and possibilities so it wouldn't surprise me if they had.

One thing I will tell you....when JMU made it known to the CAA that they were making the move, Delaware did reach out and wanted to be a part of the additions to the Sun Belt but were told that the conference was going to hold at 14. Delaware made it known that they were very interested in making the move in the future if the situation ever presented itself.

That being said....Delaware is going to have a lot of competition for a spot in the future if that ever happened but they are working on facilities to position themselves for such a move in the future. We'll see what happens.

IF we expand, Western should be priority #1. The other option should be up to the Sun Belt west. But WKU is IMHO a priority.

So that means Delaware would have a hard time, unless WKU we're the western add.

Also, imagine Delaware getting in before La Tech....the meltdown would be EPIC.

We shouldn’t expand. If we need to replace for any reason then WKU is definitely top of the list. I don’t foresee that happening.

UTSA Podcast wins the internet with this Video...

(02-13-2022 12:41 PM)mturn017 Wrote:  

(02-13-2022 12:20 PM)gdunn Wrote:  I feel like Liberty will use what influence it has and operate like it always did but don’t underestimate CUSA’s administration’s ability to f something up.

I could very much see Ian McCaw become CUSA shadow commissioner. I have little doubt we’ll see the basketball tournament, baseball tournament and many others in Lynchburg very soon. But hey, if he’s able to reconnect them with ESPN it may be worth it.

Wouldn't be shocked if he is the puppeteer pulling Judy's strings already.

(02-13-2022 12:47 PM)JMURocks Wrote:  

(02-13-2022 12:41 PM)mturn017 Wrote:  

(02-13-2022 12:20 PM)gdunn Wrote:  I feel like Liberty will use what influence it has and operate like it always did but don’t underestimate CUSA’s administration’s ability to f something up.

I could very much see Ian McCaw become CUSA shadow commissioner. I have little doubt we’ll see the basketball tournament, baseball tournament and many others in Lynchburg very soon. But hey, if he’s able to reconnect them with ESPN it may be worth it.

Wouldn't be shocked if he is the puppeteer pulling Judy's strings already.

Doubt it.

Liberty is looking for the NYE bowl. Can’t do it as an Indy so join a conference any conference.

CUSA is good enough. Could LU run the table and pull a Cincy? Pending on their OOC games are it’s very possible. Then they’ll leverage it to a different landing spot. But they cannot risk being the rat poison. Then they’re stuck in CUSA or have to go back to Indy. They’re smart

(02-13-2022 12:41 PM)mturn017 Wrote:  

(02-13-2022 12:20 PM)gdunn Wrote:  I feel like Liberty will use what influence it has and operate like it always did but don’t underestimate CUSA’s administration’s ability to f something up.

I could very much see Ian McCaw become CUSA shadow commissioner. I have little doubt we’ll see the basketball tournament, baseball tournament and many others in Lynchburg very soon. But hey, if he’s able to reconnect them with ESPN it may be worth it.

ESPN providing Liberty with a platform is one thing. Getting them to pay for a conference that includes FIU, Sam Houston State, and Jacksonville State is another. I do not say this as a knock to Liberty. Honestly, CUSA probably will be better off with Ian McCaw and them running the show because the conferences leadership is so bad right now.

If they work out a deal with ESPN, it’ll be for Pennies and not nearly the exposure that the SBC has.

(02-13-2022 12:53 PM)HTOWN_HERD Wrote:  

(02-13-2022 12:41 PM)mturn017 Wrote:  

(02-13-2022 12:20 PM)gdunn Wrote:  I feel like Liberty will use what influence it has and operate like it always did but don’t underestimate CUSA’s administration’s ability to f something up.

I could very much see Ian McCaw become CUSA shadow commissioner. I have little doubt we’ll see the basketball tournament, baseball tournament and many others in Lynchburg very soon. But hey, if he’s able to reconnect them with ESPN it may be worth it.

ESPN providing Liberty with a platform is one thing. Getting them to pay for a conference that includes FIU, Sam Houston State, and Jacksonville State is another. I do not say this as a knock to Liberty. Honestly, CUSA probably will be better off with Ian McCaw and them running the show because the conferences leadership is so bad right now.

If they work out a deal with ESPN, it’ll be for Pennies and not nearly the exposure that the SBC has.

McCaw is a slime bag but very good College Athletics administrator.

(02-13-2022 11:07 AM)ODU1986 Wrote:  I was told by a pretty good source, that JMU did not want to be in a conference with Liberty. And didn’t matter is it was a revamped CUSA eastern division or the Sun Belt.


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I have no idea if JMU was against being in a conference with Liberty or not.

I do think both would be crazy to avoid scheduling football games against each other.

The bus/no overnight option and fan mobility between the two is just too much to ignore over politics.

Thousands of each fan base would travel.

Politics are not contagious and don't rub off at football games

(02-13-2022 11:03 AM)MUHERD76 Wrote:  I don't recall hearing Missouri State or UTSA specifically reaching out. AD's and school presidents talk all the time about different scenarios and possibilities so it wouldn't surprise me if they had.

One thing I will tell you....when JMU made it known to the CAA that they were making the move, Delaware did reach out and wanted to be a part of the additions to the Sun Belt but were told that the conference was going to hold at 14. Delaware made it known that they were very interested in making the move in the future if the situation ever presented itself.

That being said....Delaware is going to have a lot of competition for a spot in the future if that ever happened but they are working on facilities to position themselves for such a move in the future. We'll see what happens.

10 years ago UD would have been a good add, but they've really gone backwards as a program, and I think are down to 12k range for football games now. They are investing and trying to breathe life back into that program, and still have some potential. They should have a good shot at winning the CAA now, which might give them momentum.

IF they can build back to where they once were and fill their stadium, I could see Delaware being an attractive add if paired up with Navy, Temple or ECU. Of course any two of those 3 would also be considered I'd think.

(02-13-2022 01:06 PM)Purplehazed Wrote:  

(02-13-2022 11:07 AM)ODU1986 Wrote:  I was told by a pretty good source, that JMU did not want to be in a conference with Liberty. And didn’t matter is it was a revamped CUSA eastern division or the Sun Belt.


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I have no idea if JMU was against being in a conference with Liberty or not.

I do think both would be crazy to avoid scheduling football games against each other.

The bus/no overnight option and fan mobility between the two is just too much to ignore over politics.

Thousands of each fan base would travel.

Politics are not contagious and don't rub off at football games

That’s my take. Very comfortable playing them OOC. Keep your beer in a cup and you’ll be fine.