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Cusa is now buy games for FCS move ups? That’s odd.

(02-01-2022 06:34 PM)banker Wrote:  Cusa is now buy games for FCS move ups? That’s odd.

But mostly it's embarrassing and disappointing. I saw a thread about MT setting their sights on an AAC invitation should Memphis leave for the Big 12. After reading this, I highly doubt the American would be interested.

(02-01-2022 06:34 PM)banker Wrote:  Cusa is now buy games for FCS move ups? That’s odd.

They already had a game cancelled that they're getting 800k for. JMU is paying them 700k. So they're essentially getting 1.5M to go play a winnable makeup game. Who wouldn't do that? MTSU would never get close to making that much for a home game, even against Mizzou. And JMU really needs FBS games on their schedule, especially at home. I'd say it's win/win. They're getting bodybag pay for playing a team they'll be favored against.

(02-01-2022 06:50 PM)MUther Wrote:  

(02-01-2022 06:34 PM)banker Wrote:  Cusa is now buy games for FCS move ups? That’s odd.

They already had a game cancelled that they're getting 800k for. JMU is paying them 700k. So they're essentially getting 1.5M to go play a winnable makeup game. Who wouldn't do that? MTSU would never get close to making that much for a home game, even against Mizzou. And JMU really needs FBS games on their schedule, especially at home. I'd say it's win/win. They're getting bodybag pay for playing a team they'll be favored against.

Every football team in the history of C-USA 3.0. FBS programs don't play "body-bag" games at FCS programs. Until now.

Does MT need an extra $700K that bad?

(02-01-2022 06:44 PM)Side.Show.Joe Wrote:  

(02-01-2022 06:34 PM)banker Wrote:  Cusa is now buy games for FCS move ups? That’s odd.

But mostly it's embarrassing and disappointing. I saw a thread about MT setting their sights on an AAC invitation should Memphis leave for the Big 12. After reading this, I highly doubt the American would be interested.

Hey look a North Texas fan spouting off about something he knows nothing about.

JMU was the only FBS with an opening week opening. They have to have five home games. We already had a IAA scheduled so we couldn’t schedule a second one. Mizzou being cowards screwed us. We took the only option available.

(02-01-2022 06:50 PM)MUther Wrote:  

(02-01-2022 06:34 PM)banker Wrote:  Cusa is now buy games for FCS move ups? That’s odd.

They already had a game cancelled that they're getting 800k for. JMU is paying them 700k. So they're essentially getting 1.5M to go play a winnable makeup game. Who wouldn't do that? MTSU would never get close to making that much for a home game, even against Mizzou. And JMU really needs FBS games on their schedule, especially at home. I'd say it's win/win. They're getting bodybag pay for playing a team they'll be favored against.

Correct and I seem to recall Old Dominion was a buy game for Liberty when they moved up. It made seen then for ODU just as it does for Middle.

(02-01-2022 06:54 PM)Side.Show.Joe Wrote:  

(02-01-2022 06:50 PM)MUther Wrote:  

(02-01-2022 06:34 PM)banker Wrote:  Cusa is now buy games for FCS move ups? That’s odd.

They already had a game cancelled that they're getting 800k for. JMU is paying them 700k. So they're essentially getting 1.5M to go play a winnable makeup game. Who wouldn't do that? MTSU would never get close to making that much for a home game, even against Mizzou. And JMU really needs FBS games on their schedule, especially at home. I'd say it's win/win. They're getting bodybag pay for playing a team they'll be favored against.

Every football team in the history of C-USA 3.0. FBS programs don't play "body-bag" games at FCS programs. Until now.

Does MT need an extra $700K that bad?

I seem to recall UAB playing @Jacksonville State this past season. While Jacksonville State was not paying UAB....about the same since espn was

(02-01-2022 06:54 PM)Side.Show.Joe Wrote:  

(02-01-2022 06:50 PM)MUther Wrote:  

(02-01-2022 06:34 PM)banker Wrote:  Cusa is now buy games for FCS move ups? That’s odd.

They already had a game cancelled that they're getting 800k for. JMU is paying them 700k. So they're essentially getting 1.5M to go play a winnable makeup game. Who wouldn't do that? MTSU would never get close to making that much for a home game, even against Mizzou. And JMU really needs FBS games on their schedule, especially at home. I'd say it's win/win. They're getting bodybag pay for playing a team they'll be favored against.

Every football team in the history of C-USA 3.0. FBS programs don't play "body-bag" games at FCS programs. Until now.

Does MT need an extra $700K that bad?

Jim counts as an FBS game for everyone

(02-01-2022 07:05 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(02-01-2022 06:54 PM)Side.Show.Joe Wrote:  

(02-01-2022 06:50 PM)MUther Wrote:  

(02-01-2022 06:34 PM)banker Wrote:  Cusa is now buy games for FCS move ups? That’s odd.

They already had a game cancelled that they're getting 800k for. JMU is paying them 700k. So they're essentially getting 1.5M to go play a winnable makeup game. Who wouldn't do that? MTSU would never get close to making that much for a home game, even against Mizzou. And JMU really needs FBS games on their schedule, especially at home. I'd say it's win/win. They're getting bodybag pay for playing a team they'll be favored against.

Every football team in the history of C-USA 3.0. FBS programs don't play "body-bag" games at FCS programs. Until now.

Does MT need an extra $700K that bad?

I seem to recall UAB playing @Jacksonville State this past season. While Jacksonville State was not paying UAB....about the same since espn was

True. I forgot about that. Points for you. But I wasn't happy about UAB doing it either.

(02-01-2022 07:16 PM)ballantyneapp Wrote:  

(02-01-2022 06:54 PM)Side.Show.Joe Wrote:  

(02-01-2022 06:50 PM)MUther Wrote:  

(02-01-2022 06:34 PM)banker Wrote:  Cusa is now buy games for FCS move ups? That’s odd.

They already had a game cancelled that they're getting 800k for. JMU is paying them 700k. So they're essentially getting 1.5M to go play a winnable makeup game. Who wouldn't do that? MTSU would never get close to making that much for a home game, even against Mizzou. And JMU really needs FBS games on their schedule, especially at home. I'd say it's win/win. They're getting bodybag pay for playing a team they'll be favored against.

Every football team in the history of C-USA 3.0. FBS programs don't play "body-bag" games at FCS programs. Until now.

Does MT need an extra $700K that bad?

Jim counts as an FBS game for everyone

In 22? Are they moving up next season?

(02-01-2022 06:26 PM)Side.Show.Joe Wrote:  https://twitter.com/Brett_McMurphy/statu...5217290249

Sounds great to to me. 1.5 million they are making and have good odds of winning.

(02-01-2022 06:56 PM)theboro Wrote:  

(02-01-2022 06:44 PM)Side.Show.Joe Wrote:  

(02-01-2022 06:34 PM)banker Wrote:  Cusa is now buy games for FCS move ups? That’s odd.

But mostly it's embarrassing and disappointing. I saw a thread about MT setting their sights on an AAC invitation should Memphis leave for the Big 12. After reading this, I highly doubt the American would be interested.

Hey look a North Texas fan spouting off about something he knows nothing about.

JMU was the only FBS with an opening week opening. They have to have five home games. We already had a IAA scheduled so we couldn’t schedule a second one. Mizzou being cowards screwed us. We took the only option available.

I know I'd never want this for UNT, and given the choice I'd play another home game against an FCS team, tell Stock he'll have to hit six wins with only 11 chances, & not collect a check at JMU. I guess different programs have different goals.

(02-01-2022 07:29 PM)Side.Show.Joe Wrote:  

(02-01-2022 07:05 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(02-01-2022 06:54 PM)Side.Show.Joe Wrote:  

(02-01-2022 06:50 PM)MUther Wrote:  

(02-01-2022 06:34 PM)banker Wrote:  Cusa is now buy games for FCS move ups? That’s odd.

They already had a game cancelled that they're getting 800k for. JMU is paying them 700k. So they're essentially getting 1.5M to go play a winnable makeup game. Who wouldn't do that? MTSU would never get close to making that much for a home game, even against Mizzou. And JMU really needs FBS games on their schedule, especially at home. I'd say it's win/win. They're getting bodybag pay for playing a team they'll be favored against.

Every football team in the history of C-USA 3.0. FBS programs don't play "body-bag" games at FCS programs. Until now.

Does MT need an extra $700K that bad?

I seem to recall UAB playing @Jacksonville State this past season. While Jacksonville State was not paying UAB....about the same since espn was

True. I forgot about that. Points for you. But I wasn't happy about UAB doing it either.

While it wasnt a pay check game UNT played at Western in 2008 while still in the FCS (Western 1st year of moving up)

(02-01-2022 07:45 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(02-01-2022 07:29 PM)Side.Show.Joe Wrote:  

(02-01-2022 07:05 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(02-01-2022 06:54 PM)Side.Show.Joe Wrote:  

(02-01-2022 06:50 PM)MUther Wrote:  They already had a game cancelled that they're getting 800k for. JMU is paying them 700k. So they're essentially getting 1.5M to go play a winnable makeup game. Who wouldn't do that? MTSU would never get close to making that much for a home game, even against Mizzou. And JMU really needs FBS games on their schedule, especially at home. I'd say it's win/win. They're getting bodybag pay for playing a team they'll be favored against.

Every football team in the history of C-USA 3.0. FBS programs don't play "body-bag" games at FCS programs. Until now.

Does MT need an extra $700K that bad?

I seem to recall UAB playing @Jacksonville State this past season. While Jacksonville State was not paying UAB....about the same since espn was

True. I forgot about that. Points for you. But I wasn't happy about UAB doing it either.

While it wasnt a pay check game UNT played at Western in 2008 while still in the FCS (Western 1st year of moving up)

Western was transitioning to the Sun Belt, which is the conference we were in at the time. A little different situation.

(02-01-2022 07:41 PM)SouthernMiss3613 Wrote:  

(02-01-2022 06:26 PM)Side.Show.Joe Wrote:  https://twitter.com/Brett_McMurphy/statu...5217290249

Sounds great to to me. 1.5 million they are making and have good odds of winning.

I don’t see the issue. Good move by MT after being paid 800k.

(02-01-2022 07:05 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(02-01-2022 06:54 PM)Side.Show.Joe Wrote:  

(02-01-2022 06:50 PM)MUther Wrote:  

(02-01-2022 06:34 PM)banker Wrote:  Cusa is now buy games for FCS move ups? That’s odd.

They already had a game cancelled that they're getting 800k for. JMU is paying them 700k. So they're essentially getting 1.5M to go play a winnable makeup game. Who wouldn't do that? MTSU would never get close to making that much for a home game, even against Mizzou. And JMU really needs FBS games on their schedule, especially at home. I'd say it's win/win. They're getting bodybag pay for playing a team they'll be favored against.

Every football team in the history of C-USA 3.0. FBS programs don't play "body-bag" games at FCS programs. Until now.

Does MT need an extra $700K that bad?

I seem to recall UAB playing @Jacksonville State this past season. While Jacksonville State was not paying UAB....about the same since espn was

The game was in Montgomery.

(02-01-2022 07:30 PM)Side.Show.Joe Wrote:  

(02-01-2022 07:16 PM)ballantyneapp Wrote:  

(02-01-2022 06:54 PM)Side.Show.Joe Wrote:  

(02-01-2022 06:50 PM)MUther Wrote:  

(02-01-2022 06:34 PM)banker Wrote:  Cusa is now buy games for FCS move ups? That’s odd.

They already had a game cancelled that they're getting 800k for. JMU is paying them 700k. So they're essentially getting 1.5M to go play a winnable makeup game. Who wouldn't do that? MTSU would never get close to making that much for a home game, even against Mizzou. And JMU really needs FBS games on their schedule, especially at home. I'd say it's win/win. They're getting bodybag pay for playing a team they'll be favored against.

Every football team in the history of C-USA 3.0. FBS programs don't play "body-bag" games at FCS programs. Until now.

Does MT need an extra $700K that bad?

Jim counts as an FBS game for everyone

In 22? Are they moving up next season?

Yes. They are considered FBS next season and will be in the Sun Belt, as long as they had at least 5 FBS home games this year. They got 4 from the belt and then MTSU, They just can't be bowl eligible till the following year. We did this with UTSA, ODU, and Charlotte. The only difference is it's cross-conference and MTSU is getting a nice check for their trouble. I'm not 100% sure MTSU will beat JMU, but I'm sure they have a better shot than playing an SEC team and for a load of money. And if UNT needed the game they would play it, too, despite what their fans think.

Haters gonna hate, but as a new SB fan, thanks for helping out JMU with their transition.

(02-01-2022 08:21 PM)AssKickingChicken Wrote:  

(02-01-2022 07:05 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(02-01-2022 06:54 PM)Side.Show.Joe Wrote:  

(02-01-2022 06:50 PM)MUther Wrote:  

(02-01-2022 06:34 PM)banker Wrote:  Cusa is now buy games for FCS move ups? That’s odd.

They already had a game cancelled that they're getting 800k for. JMU is paying them 700k. So they're essentially getting 1.5M to go play a winnable makeup game. Who wouldn't do that? MTSU would never get close to making that much for a home game, even against Mizzou. And JMU really needs FBS games on their schedule, especially at home. I'd say it's win/win. They're getting bodybag pay for playing a team they'll be favored against.

Every football team in the history of C-USA 3.0. FBS programs don't play "body-bag" games at FCS programs. Until now.

Does MT need an extra $700K that bad?

I seem to recall UAB playing @Jacksonville State this past season. While Jacksonville State was not paying UAB....about the same since espn was

The game was in Montgomery.

While not a "home game" for JSU....Close enough. At that time JSU was a true FCS, while JMU actually counts as a FBS game

(02-01-2022 06:44 PM)Side.Show.Joe Wrote:  

(02-01-2022 06:34 PM)banker Wrote:  Cusa is now buy games for FCS move ups? That’s odd.

But mostly it's embarrassing and disappointing. I saw a thread about MT setting their sights on an AAC invitation should Memphis leave for the Big 12. After reading this, I highly doubt the American would be interested.

You don't know what you're talking about. Yeah, because we schedule a road game against an incoming Sun Belt team that's what's going to derail our future.

Typically since MT treats information like state secrets, the full scope isn't known. In this case, the AD decided to proactively release details. We had a home game scheduled with Missouri. They cancelled this game on us very late. Mizzou is paying $800K to buyout of the contract. Given most schedules for '22 are already set there were virtually no options to available to us to provide a filler.

Enter JMU. For JMU to be considered an FBS opponent, they are required to have five home games. Since they only have four, should we play them in Murfreesboro a win against them wouldn't count since we already have Tennessee St on the schedule. And because JMU desperately wants to be counted as an FBS for '22, they were willing to pony up the cash to make it happen. So, it became a win/win for both programs. Considering we had absolutely no options to fill this slot in the schedule otherwise, the fact that we are walking away with not only $1.5M and an FBS countable opponent we came out of this situation about as good as we could have except for the parts that were out of our control. Obviously losing a home game against a P5 and only have five home games is disappointing but it looks pretty clear we didn't have any alternatives.