(01-24-2022 08:59 PM)rileylives Wrote:  Microevolution exists. Kinds have proven to evolve over time.

It's the theory of Macroevolution, chaos creating order, in which one subset evolved into another (dinosaurs to birds, man out of primate as examples) I cannot get down with. So macroevolution is just that, a theory. One that the fossil record has had a difficult time proving. And is still being debated to this day.

I love science. I love reading about the universe. Yet I can chew gum and walk at the same time.

What science does very well is ask good questions. However, there is more to a good education than simply science. It should be weighed as much as your experiences in the arts, humanities, theology, philosophy....science does a good job digging in and attempting to find the "how" answers. Theology does a good job addressing the "why" ones.

What we have are two camps that need to respect each other's place in education.

Please do not do the "just a theory" thing. You probably know that a theory is the well-supported explanation of how something has come to be. Evolution has been supported with anecdotal and empirical evidence for two centuries.
There is no place in science education for a belief system that cannot be tested. So teach creationism in religion classes, not science classes.
Also do not make the mistake that evolution is linear. Humans did not 'come from primates', we ARE primates.

(01-24-2022 08:55 PM)ragin4u Wrote:  

(01-24-2022 08:44 PM)All4One Wrote:  

(01-24-2022 08:37 PM)ragin4u Wrote:  

(01-24-2022 07:58 PM)All4One Wrote:  

(01-24-2022 07:25 PM)GEAUX UL Wrote:  BYU does not teach creationism. Don't try to drag other schools into your own school's wackadoodle beliefs.

Bull f***ing s***!! I know for a fact that they do. They have an entire Institute of Religion that teaches classes on the Latter-Day Saint faith of which all students must take classes from. And, yes, the premortal existence and The Creation are some of them. So STFU!!!

Wow. That struck a nerve.
Teaching creationism or intelligent design or whatever you want to call it in a religion class is cool. Teaching it as science is the problem.

You attended classes at Liberty to know for a fact that's how it's done? No? Then STFU!

I have not attended class at LU nor did I say I did. I also did not comment on what or how they teach. You seem to know a lot about the curriculum of Liberty.

They teach evolution as a theory. So does BYU and emphasized greatly as a theory because it is a theory, and it will always be a theory. And, yes, you implied that Liberty teaches creation as a science because Liberty teachings was the subject brought up by the bigoted Marshall fan, HerdZoned. Maybe there's a class at Liberty that explores that possibility. So what?

(01-24-2022 09:13 PM)ragin4u Wrote:  

(01-24-2022 08:59 PM)rileylives Wrote:  Microevolution exists. Kinds have proven to evolve over time.

It's the theory of Macroevolution, chaos creating order, in which one subset evolved into another (dinosaurs to birds, man out of primate as examples) I cannot get down with. So macroevolution is just that, a theory. One that the fossil record has had a difficult time proving. And is still being debated to this day.

I love science. I love reading about the universe. Yet I can chew gum and walk at the same time.

What science does very well is ask good questions. However, there is more to a good education than simply science. It should be weighed as much as your experiences in the arts, humanities, theology, philosophy....science does a good job digging in and attempting to find the "how" answers. Theology does a good job addressing the "why" ones.

What we have are two camps that need to respect each other's place in education.

Please do not do the "just a theory" thing. You probably know that a theory is as the well-supported explanation of how something has come to be. Evolution has been supported with anecdotal and empirical evidence for two centuries.
There is no place in science education for a belief system that cannot be tested. So teach creationism in religion classes, not science classes.

Hey look. I'm just providing some insight. I have no formal "creationist" background or the like.

However, there are elements we still have no idea in how they were developed. Irreducibly complex systems that science has no answer for. And no, the theory of evolution is still being called into question to this day. Not just by doubters like myself.

We still do not have overwhelming empirical evidence of Macroevolution between man and primate. For one.

Again, this is all and good, and something that is easily debated over a cup of coffee or my preference, a good ale.

I have no idea what Liberty teaches. I did not imply anything. Do they teach creationism as a science?

(01-24-2022 09:13 PM)ragin4u Wrote:  

(01-24-2022 08:59 PM)rileylives Wrote:  Microevolution exists. Kinds have proven to evolve over time.

It's the theory of Macroevolution, chaos creating order, in which one subset evolved into another (dinosaurs to birds, man out of primate as examples) I cannot get down with. So macroevolution is just that, a theory. One that the fossil record has had a difficult time proving. And is still being debated to this day.

I love science. I love reading about the universe. Yet I can chew gum and walk at the same time.

What science does very well is ask good questions. However, there is more to a good education than simply science. It should be weighed as much as your experiences in the arts, humanities, theology, philosophy....science does a good job digging in and attempting to find the "how" answers. Theology does a good job addressing the "why" ones.

What we have are two camps that need to respect each other's place in education.

Please do not do the "just a theory" thing. You probably know that a theory is the well-supported explanation of how something has come to be. Evolution has been supported with anecdotal and empirical evidence for two centuries.
There is no place in science education for a belief system that cannot be tested. So teach creationism in religion classes, not science classes.
Also do not make the mistake that evolution is linear. Humans did not 'come from primates', we ARE primates.

Dude, so we can test black matter, or how black holes develop? No, of course not!

We are still debating on how that develops, why expansion is happening in the universe, and how black matter operates.

So just because we can't test it, it's not science!?

Let's be real. It's a career killer in academia to even question the theory of Macroevolution. Even if you bring up good points. THAT is disgraceful, and antithetical to the heart of science IMHO. To test and measure theories.

(01-24-2022 09:15 PM)All4One Wrote:  

(01-24-2022 08:55 PM)ragin4u Wrote:  

(01-24-2022 08:44 PM)All4One Wrote:  

(01-24-2022 08:37 PM)ragin4u Wrote:  

(01-24-2022 07:58 PM)All4One Wrote:  Bull f***ing s***!! I know for a fact that they do. They have an entire Institute of Religion that teaches classes on the Latter-Day Saint faith of which all students must take classes from. And, yes, the premortal existence and The Creation are some of them. So STFU!!!

Wow. That struck a nerve.
Teaching creationism or intelligent design or whatever you want to call it in a religion class is cool. Teaching it as science is the problem.

You attended classes at Liberty to know for a fact that's how it's done? No? Then STFU!

I have not attended class at LU nor did I say I did. I also did not comment on what or how they teach. You seem to know a lot about the curriculum of Liberty.

They teach evolution as a theory. So does BYU and emphasized greatly as a theory because it is a theory, and it will always be a theory. And, yes, you implied that Liberty teaches creation as a science because Liberty teachings was the subject brought up by the bigoted Marshall fan, HerdZoned. Maybe there's a class at Liberty that explores that possibility. So what?

I’m getting confused. Are we saying the Sun Belt was created but CUSA evolved? And whatever it is, it’s all La Tech’s fault?

(01-24-2022 09:19 PM)rileylives Wrote:  

(01-24-2022 09:13 PM)ragin4u Wrote:  

(01-24-2022 08:59 PM)rileylives Wrote:  Microevolution exists. Kinds have proven to evolve over time.

It's the theory of Macroevolution, chaos creating order, in which one subset evolved into another (dinosaurs to birds, man out of primate as examples) I cannot get down with. So macroevolution is just that, a theory. One that the fossil record has had a difficult time proving. And is still being debated to this day.

I love science. I love reading about the universe. Yet I can chew gum and walk at the same time.

What science does very well is ask good questions. However, there is more to a good education than simply science. It should be weighed as much as your experiences in the arts, humanities, theology, philosophy....science does a good job digging in and attempting to find the "how" answers. Theology does a good job addressing the "why" ones.

What we have are two camps that need to respect each other's place in education.

Please do not do the "just a theory" thing. You probably know that a theory is as the well-supported explanation of how something has come to be. Evolution has been supported with anecdotal and empirical evidence for two centuries.
There is no place in science education for a belief system that cannot be tested. So teach creationism in religion classes, not science classes.

Hey look. I'm just providing some insight. I have no formal "creationist" background or the like.

However, there are elements we still have no idea in how they were developed. Irreducibly complex systems that science has no answer for. And no, the theory of evolution is still being called into question to this day. Not just by doubters like myself.

We still do not have overwhelming empirical evidence of Macroevolution between man and primate. For one.

Again, this is all and good, and something that is easily debated over a cup of coffee or my preference, a good ale.

My issue is the "magic man in the sky'" created all of this and the Earth is 5k years old and all of the other hokum that some try to pass off as science. It's not. It's faith. And while one's faith is their own and one can believe whatever they want, conflating science and faith leads us to dark places.

But agreed that these conversations are better face to face. Let me know if yall come to Lafayette for the CCG and we can get together. I'll buy the Parish Brewing!!

(01-24-2022 09:26 PM)ragin4u Wrote:  

(01-24-2022 09:19 PM)rileylives Wrote:  

(01-24-2022 09:13 PM)ragin4u Wrote:  

(01-24-2022 08:59 PM)rileylives Wrote:  Microevolution exists. Kinds have proven to evolve over time.

It's the theory of Macroevolution, chaos creating order, in which one subset evolved into another (dinosaurs to birds, man out of primate as examples) I cannot get down with. So macroevolution is just that, a theory. One that the fossil record has had a difficult time proving. And is still being debated to this day.

I love science. I love reading about the universe. Yet I can chew gum and walk at the same time.

What science does very well is ask good questions. However, there is more to a good education than simply science. It should be weighed as much as your experiences in the arts, humanities, theology, philosophy....science does a good job digging in and attempting to find the "how" answers. Theology does a good job addressing the "why" ones.

What we have are two camps that need to respect each other's place in education.

Please do not do the "just a theory" thing. You probably know that a theory is as the well-supported explanation of how something has come to be. Evolution has been supported with anecdotal and empirical evidence for two centuries.
There is no place in science education for a belief system that cannot be tested. So teach creationism in religion classes, not science classes.

Hey look. I'm just providing some insight. I have no formal "creationist" background or the like.

However, there are elements we still have no idea in how they were developed. Irreducibly complex systems that science has no answer for. And no, the theory of evolution is still being called into question to this day. Not just by doubters like myself.

We still do not have overwhelming empirical evidence of Macroevolution between man and primate. For one.

Again, this is all and good, and something that is easily debated over a cup of coffee or my preference, a good ale.

My issue is the "magic man in the sky'" created all of this and the Earth is 5k years old and all of the other hokum that some try to pass off as science. It's not. It's faith. And while one's faith is their own and one can believe whatever they want, conflating science and faith leads us to dark places.

But agreed that these conversations are better face to face. Let me know if yall come to Lafayette for the CCG and we can get together. I'll buy the Parish Brewing!!

Awesome!

(01-24-2022 09:21 PM)rileylives Wrote:  

(01-24-2022 09:13 PM)ragin4u Wrote:  

(01-24-2022 08:59 PM)rileylives Wrote:  Microevolution exists. Kinds have proven to evolve over time.

It's the theory of Macroevolution, chaos creating order, in which one subset evolved into another (dinosaurs to birds, man out of primate as examples) I cannot get down with. So macroevolution is just that, a theory. One that the fossil record has had a difficult time proving. And is still being debated to this day.

I love science. I love reading about the universe. Yet I can chew gum and walk at the same time.

What science does very well is ask good questions. However, there is more to a good education than simply science. It should be weighed as much as your experiences in the arts, humanities, theology, philosophy....science does a good job digging in and attempting to find the "how" answers. Theology does a good job addressing the "why" ones.

What we have are two camps that need to respect each other's place in education.

Please do not do the "just a theory" thing. You probably know that a theory is the well-supported explanation of how something has come to be. Evolution has been supported with anecdotal and empirical evidence for two centuries.
There is no place in science education for a belief system that cannot be tested. So teach creationism in religion classes, not science classes.
Also do not make the mistake that evolution is linear. Humans did not 'come from primates', we ARE primates.

Dude, so we can test black matter, or how black holes develop? No, of course not!

We are still debating on how that develops, why expansion is happening in the universe, and how black matter operates.

So just because we can't test it, it's not science!?

Let's be real. It's a career killer in academia to even question the theory of Macroevolution. Even if you bring up good points. THAT is disgraceful, and antithetical to the heart of science IMHO. To test and measure theories.

Testing the equations and models of those events is certainly scientific.

(01-24-2022 09:24 PM)The Roach Wrote:  

(01-24-2022 09:15 PM)All4One Wrote:  

(01-24-2022 08:55 PM)ragin4u Wrote:  

(01-24-2022 08:44 PM)All4One Wrote:  

(01-24-2022 08:37 PM)ragin4u Wrote:  Wow. That struck a nerve.
Teaching creationism or intelligent design or whatever you want to call it in a religion class is cool. Teaching it as science is the problem.

You attended classes at Liberty to know for a fact that's how it's done? No? Then STFU!

I have not attended class at LU nor did I say I did. I also did not comment on what or how they teach. You seem to know a lot about the curriculum of Liberty.

They teach evolution as a theory. So does BYU and emphasized greatly as a theory because it is a theory, and it will always be a theory. And, yes, you implied that Liberty teaches creation as a science because Liberty teachings was the subject brought up by the bigoted Marshall fan, HerdZoned. Maybe there's a class at Liberty that explores that possibility. So what?

I’m getting confused. Are we saying the Sun Belt was created but CUSA evolved? And whatever it is, it’s all La Tech’s fault?

Or the opposite. Either way Tuck Fech.

(01-24-2022 09:24 PM)The Roach Wrote:  

(01-24-2022 09:15 PM)All4One Wrote:  

(01-24-2022 08:55 PM)ragin4u Wrote:  

(01-24-2022 08:44 PM)All4One Wrote:  

(01-24-2022 08:37 PM)ragin4u Wrote:  Wow. That struck a nerve.
Teaching creationism or intelligent design or whatever you want to call it in a religion class is cool. Teaching it as science is the problem.

You attended classes at Liberty to know for a fact that's how it's done? No? Then STFU!

I have not attended class at LU nor did I say I did. I also did not comment on what or how they teach. You seem to know a lot about the curriculum of Liberty.

They teach evolution as a theory. So does BYU and emphasized greatly as a theory because it is a theory, and it will always be a theory. And, yes, you implied that Liberty teaches creation as a science because Liberty teachings was the subject brought up by the bigoted Marshall fan, HerdZoned. Maybe there's a class at Liberty that explores that possibility. So what?

I’m getting confused. Are we saying the Sun Belt was created but CUSA evolved? And whatever it is, it’s all La Tech’s fault?

Nope. We have a Cajun fan who is explaining how he evolved from being a poop-slinging monkey to being a poop-slinging human thing. He's also explaining to us in not so many direct words how a great deal of his DNA evolved from jackasses.

(01-24-2022 09:28 PM)ragin4u Wrote:  

(01-24-2022 09:21 PM)rileylives Wrote:  

(01-24-2022 09:13 PM)ragin4u Wrote:  

(01-24-2022 08:59 PM)rileylives Wrote:  Microevolution exists. Kinds have proven to evolve over time.

It's the theory of Macroevolution, chaos creating order, in which one subset evolved into another (dinosaurs to birds, man out of primate as examples) I cannot get down with. So macroevolution is just that, a theory. One that the fossil record has had a difficult time proving. And is still being debated to this day.

I love science. I love reading about the universe. Yet I can chew gum and walk at the same time.

What science does very well is ask good questions. However, there is more to a good education than simply science. It should be weighed as much as your experiences in the arts, humanities, theology, philosophy....science does a good job digging in and attempting to find the "how" answers. Theology does a good job addressing the "why" ones.

What we have are two camps that need to respect each other's place in education.

Please do not do the "just a theory" thing. You probably know that a theory is the well-supported explanation of how something has come to be. Evolution has been supported with anecdotal and empirical evidence for two centuries.
There is no place in science education for a belief system that cannot be tested. So teach creationism in religion classes, not science classes.
Also do not make the mistake that evolution is linear. Humans did not 'come from primates', we ARE primates.

Dude, so we can test black matter, or how black holes develop? No, of course not!

We are still debating on how that develops, why expansion is happening in the universe, and how black matter operates.

So just because we can't test it, it's not science!?

Let's be real. It's a career killer in academia to even question the theory of Macroevolution. Even if you bring up good points. THAT is disgraceful, and antithetical to the heart of science IMHO. To test and measure theories.

Testing the equations and models of those events is certainly scientific.

I know, but we're also going off a limited periodic table of known elements.

I happen to think there are many, many more elements in the universe we have no idea in which or how they work.

So IMHO it's incredibly arrogant as man to say something more intelligent than us couldn't have started it all.

I digress, this has been a fun detour for a second.

Now back to the never ending conference bickering!

We don’t teach creationism in the science department. We teach Evolution and a lot of our professors accept it. We use the same material that you’d find at your typical state school. Like BYU and Baylor, we incorporate God with it.

There’s one creationism course, which isn’t mandatory, that falls under religion/philosophy.

Trust me guys majority of us believe in science. lol

(01-24-2022 09:29 PM)All4One Wrote:  

(01-24-2022 09:24 PM)The Roach Wrote:  

(01-24-2022 09:15 PM)All4One Wrote:  

(01-24-2022 08:55 PM)ragin4u Wrote:  

(01-24-2022 08:44 PM)All4One Wrote:  You attended classes at Liberty to know for a fact that's how it's done? No? Then STFU!

I have not attended class at LU nor did I say I did. I also did not comment on what or how they teach. You seem to know a lot about the curriculum of Liberty.

They teach evolution as a theory. So does BYU and emphasized greatly as a theory because it is a theory, and it will always be a theory. And, yes, you implied that Liberty teaches creation as a science because Liberty teachings was the subject brought up by the bigoted Marshall fan, HerdZoned. Maybe there's a class at Liberty that explores that possibility. So what?

I’m getting confused. Are we saying the Sun Belt was created but CUSA evolved? And whatever it is, it’s all La Tech’s fault?

Nope. We have a Cajun fan who is explaining how he evolved from being a poop-slinging monkey to being a poop-slinging human thing. He's also explaining to us in not so many direct words how a great deal of his DNA evolved from jackasses.

As usual, you add zero to a discussion. Run along little one and let the adults talk in peace.

(01-24-2022 09:41 PM)LUbball23 Wrote:  We don’t teach creationism in the science department. We teach Evolution and a lot of our professors accept it. We use the same material that you’d find at your typical state school. Like BYU and Baylor, we incorporate God with it.

There’s one creationism course, which isn’t mandatory, that falls under religion/philosophy.

Trust me guys majority of us believe in science. lol

That is good to hear. Thanks for the info.

(01-24-2022 09:41 PM)ragin4u Wrote:  

(01-24-2022 09:29 PM)All4One Wrote:  

(01-24-2022 09:24 PM)The Roach Wrote:  

(01-24-2022 09:15 PM)All4One Wrote:  

(01-24-2022 08:55 PM)ragin4u Wrote:  I have not attended class at LU nor did I say I did. I also did not comment on what or how they teach. You seem to know a lot about the curriculum of Liberty.

They teach evolution as a theory. So does BYU and emphasized greatly as a theory because it is a theory, and it will always be a theory. And, yes, you implied that Liberty teaches creation as a science because Liberty teachings was the subject brought up by the bigoted Marshall fan, HerdZoned. Maybe there's a class at Liberty that explores that possibility. So what?

I’m getting confused. Are we saying the Sun Belt was created but CUSA evolved? And whatever it is, it’s all La Tech’s fault?

Nope. We have a Cajun fan who is explaining how he evolved from being a poop-slinging monkey to being a poop-slinging human thing. He's also explaining to us in not so many direct words how a great deal of his DNA evolved from jackasses.

As usual, you add zero to a discussion. Run along little one and let the adults talk in peace.

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(01-24-2022 07:58 PM)All4One Wrote:  

(01-24-2022 07:25 PM)GEAUX UL Wrote:  

(01-22-2022 01:49 PM)All4One Wrote:  Please, take your retarded politics and religious bigotry to the Suck Belch forum where it belongs. I'll have you know for a fact that BYU also teaches creationism, so Liberty isn't alone there.

BYU does not teach creationism. Don't try to drag other schools into your own school's wackadoodle beliefs.

Bull f***ing s***!! I know for a fact that they do. They have an entire Institute of Religion that teaches classes on the Latter-Day Saint faith of which all students must take classes from. And, yes, the premortal existence and The Creation are some of them. So STFU!!!

Yes, BYU has a religion class where they teach about religion. So does Notre Dame, SMU, Duke, Baylor, and many other respected religious universities.

But what they don’t do is teach religion in their science classes like Liberty does. I’m sorry, but that’s difference between a respectable university and a wackadoodle one. The KJV is not an infallible source of scientific truth.

(01-24-2022 09:51 PM)GEAUX UL Wrote:  

(01-24-2022 07:58 PM)All4One Wrote:  

(01-24-2022 07:25 PM)GEAUX UL Wrote:  

(01-22-2022 01:49 PM)All4One Wrote:  Please, take your retarded politics and religious bigotry to the Suck Belch forum where it belongs. I'll have you know for a fact that BYU also teaches creationism, so Liberty isn't alone there.

BYU does not teach creationism. Don't try to drag other schools into your own school's wackadoodle beliefs.

Bull f***ing s***!! I know for a fact that they do. They have an entire Institute of Religion that teaches classes on the Latter-Day Saint faith of which all students must take classes from. And, yes, the premortal existence and The Creation are some of them. So STFU!!!

Yes, BYU has a religion class where they teach about religion. So does Notre Dame, SMU, Duke, Baylor, and many other respected religious universities.

But what they don’t do is teach religion in their science classes like Liberty does. I’m sorry, but that’s difference between a respectable university and a wackadoodle one. The KJV is not an infallible source of scientific truth.

Good to know you took classes at Liberty and BYU to be able to tell us the difference.

(01-24-2022 09:41 PM)LUbball23 Wrote:  We don’t teach creationism in the science department. We teach Evolution and a lot of our professors accept it. We use the same material that you’d find at your typical state school. Like BYU and Baylor, we incorporate God with it.

There’s one creationism course, which isn’t mandatory, that falls under religion/philosophy.

Trust me guys majority of us believe in science. lol

That’s the problem science especially evolution has become a belief system. A religion. How many people cast stones at a religious belief. Creationism. Only to adhere to evolution with blind unquestioning faith.
I ask you is that science. “The search for truth”. Or is it a religion?

Creationist acknowledge their faith in God while evolutionists hide behind a false facade of “Science”.

I’m sorry to hear liberty has joined that crowd. But not surprised.

(01-22-2022 10:06 AM)All4One Wrote:  As far as James Madison, eight wins could be a regular thing in a conference like the one they're going to be a part of. I wouldn't expect them to lose to the University of the Incarnate Word like some other teams.

And yet TXST still beat a CUSA team