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CAA Expanding with Monmouth, Stony Brook and Hampton
(01-19-2022 01:45 PM)solohawks Wrote:  
(01-19-2022 11:06 AM)B_Hawk06 Wrote:  
(01-19-2022 10:16 AM)solohawks Wrote:  
(01-19-2022 10:09 AM)bricksnivy Wrote:  
(01-19-2022 09:57 AM)solohawks Wrote:  I would say all in all Winthrop has been the most consistent basketball success in the Big South. Winthrop has 11 Big South Championships, the next closest in UNC Ashville with 5. Being near Charlotte is nice to, though i don't have any delusions about them making a major impact in that media market. Winthrop would also serve as a better travel partner for Charleston, allowing us to partner with Campbell, making travel a bit easier for all.

Appreciate the feedback. I wasn't familiar with Winthrop's basketball success. That is probably the most appealing to me out of all of the potential benefits. I hope that W&M and CoC are tied with us, whether it be in the CAA or in an unexpected scenario where we join the SoCon.

Winthrop and Campbell are arguably the top 2 baseball schools in the Big South now the Coastal is gone

A division of W&M, Hampton, Elon, Campbell, UNCW, Winthrop, and Charleston just makes sense to me looking around at the layout of everything.

Towson should be in the north


A conference and/or division with Hampton and Campbell in it doesn’t make sense to me at all. It’s trash.

Accepting a trash conference means we don’t have any self respect as a school, and to me is overall unsatisfactory.

UNCW, CofC, and WM all need to be making a concerted effort to get out of this conference. Trying to appease these schools by adding a school like Hampton is one of the worst moves I’ve ever seen. Campbell isn’t much better either. Adding Winthrop doesn’t move the meter for me at all.

Best option is to get out of the CAA at all costs, because the leadership of the conference is horrid at best.


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Great stump speech

Whats your solution


I said it. UNCW, CoC, and WM all need to be making a concerted move to leave the CAA.

My issue is less with the schools in the conference, and more with conference leadership. We all know the CAA leadership has sucked for decades now, and this new plan of adding Hampton to the conference proves its not improving anytime soon.

I don’t care to discuss dream conference locations for UNCW, because until some sort of action is taken, it’s clear we’re just sitting in the backseat of an old Ford Escort, watching all of our neighbors buy new vehicles and saying “well, at least whoever is driving this Escort can get us a few miles down the road before it breaks.”

I’ll leave all the “solutions” to you folks that like to pretend you’re making real decisions on a message board, but the reality is we are in a crap conference and it’s getting worse, not better. Trust me. I’ve read through dozens on dozens of these threads over the years, on our board and others. It’s the same BS over and over. “We should add _____ and _____, blah blah blah.” If it makes you feel better, have at it.

I’m simply stating that this conference is trash. I don’t need to justify my opinion with a solution. That’s not our role.


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RE: CAA Expanding with Monmouth, Stony Brook and Hampton
(01-19-2022 07:28 AM)82hawk Wrote:  So, if the reports are true for CAA expansion, here's where we are right now.

North - Stony Brook, Hofstra, Drexel, Monmouth, Northeastern, Delaware,
South - Towson, W&M, Hampton, Elon, UNCW, CofC

Since Monmouth and Hampton will bring additional football to the CAA and Stony Brook already has their football with the CAA, that leaves room for a football school and a non football school to be added to get to 14. Towson could easily slide to the north if two southern school are added and I would imagine Towson would rather be with the northern schools and are pushing for that.

So, who's next? The only positive in these additions from a UNCW perspective is that a N/S divisional setup is now a reality, with a more compact geography for travel and rivalries. That should make the CAA more attractive for schools to come on board. It's also more attractive for the southern schools to stay on board. I could really see Campbell jumping at this setup if offered and i'd support them. And although we've heard there are no SoCon schools interested, we should go hard after UNCG. If these additions happened the CAA would look like this:

N- Stony Brook, Hofstra, Drexel, Monmouth, Northeastern, Delaware, Towson
S - W&M, Hampton, Elon, UNCW, CofC, Campbell, UNCG

Elon and Campbell are both on the rise in their athletic investments and already have newer, upgraded basketball arenas that should help in rectruitment. UNCG had their day in the sun with Wes Miller, but he's gone and UNCG is aleady sliding this year. The SoCon has the same problem as the CAA did, with several football schools that are prime candidates to go FBS. If UNCG balked, it wouldn't surprise me if the CAA goes after High Point as a replacement as a non football school. As much as CofC would like to see a school from South Carolina come on board, I just don't see that happening.

From a baseball perspective, Campbell has a strong program and finished #37 RPI last year ahead of all CAA teams. Monmouth was just behind UNCW at #74, Stony Brook was top #97 and UNCG was #100.

I think the time is right for UNCW to move to the SoCon with William and Mary, Elon and CofC. The SoCon is a much stronger baseball conference than the CAA, so a move to the SoCon would help us in baseball and wouldn't hurt us in basketball But if that option isn't available, and we could add two strong southern schools to the CAA, it would still remain a good place to be.

Yes! It's time for Elon, W&M, UNCW, and CofC to move on to the SoCon! Get away from the Northeast where they have zero interest in college athletics!
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RE: CAA Expanding with Monmouth, Stony Brook and Hampton
(01-19-2022 01:55 PM)B_Hawk06 Wrote:  
(01-19-2022 01:45 PM)solohawks Wrote:  
(01-19-2022 11:06 AM)B_Hawk06 Wrote:  
(01-19-2022 10:16 AM)solohawks Wrote:  
(01-19-2022 10:09 AM)bricksnivy Wrote:  Appreciate the feedback. I wasn't familiar with Winthrop's basketball success. That is probably the most appealing to me out of all of the potential benefits. I hope that W&M and CoC are tied with us, whether it be in the CAA or in an unexpected scenario where we join the SoCon.

Winthrop and Campbell are arguably the top 2 baseball schools in the Big South now the Coastal is gone

A division of W&M, Hampton, Elon, Campbell, UNCW, Winthrop, and Charleston just makes sense to me looking around at the layout of everything.

Towson should be in the north


A conference and/or division with Hampton and Campbell in it doesn’t make sense to me at all. It’s trash.

Accepting a trash conference means we don’t have any self respect as a school, and to me is overall unsatisfactory.

UNCW, CofC, and WM all need to be making a concerted effort to get out of this conference. Trying to appease these schools by adding a school like Hampton is one of the worst moves I’ve ever seen. Campbell isn’t much better either. Adding Winthrop doesn’t move the meter for me at all.

Best option is to get out of the CAA at all costs, because the leadership of the conference is horrid at best.


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Great stump speech

Whats your solution


I said it. UNCW, CoC, and WM all need to be making a concerted move to leave the CAA.

My issue is less with the schools in the conference, and more with conference leadership. We all know the CAA leadership has sucked for decades now, and this new plan of adding Hampton to the conference proves its not improving anytime soon.

I don’t care to discuss dream conference locations for UNCW, because until some sort of action is taken, it’s clear we’re just sitting in the backseat of an old Ford Escort, watching all of our neighbors buy new vehicles and saying “well, at least whoever is driving this Escort can get us a few miles down the road before it breaks.”

I’ll leave all the “solutions” to you folks that like to pretend you’re making real decisions on a message board, but the reality is we are in a crap conference and it’s getting worse, not better. Trust me. I’ve read through dozens on dozens of these threads over the years, on our board and others. It’s the same BS over and over. “We should add _____ and _____, blah blah blah.” If it makes you feel better, have at it.

I’m simply stating that this conference is trash. I don’t need to justify my opinion with a solution. That’s not our role.


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RE: CAA Expanding with Monmouth, Stony Brook and Hampton
(01-19-2022 01:55 PM)B_Hawk06 Wrote:  
(01-19-2022 01:45 PM)solohawks Wrote:  
(01-19-2022 11:06 AM)B_Hawk06 Wrote:  
(01-19-2022 10:16 AM)solohawks Wrote:  
(01-19-2022 10:09 AM)bricksnivy Wrote:  Appreciate the feedback. I wasn't familiar with Winthrop's basketball success. That is probably the most appealing to me out of all of the potential benefits. I hope that W&M and CoC are tied with us, whether it be in the CAA or in an unexpected scenario where we join the SoCon.

Winthrop and Campbell are arguably the top 2 baseball schools in the Big South now the Coastal is gone

A division of W&M, Hampton, Elon, Campbell, UNCW, Winthrop, and Charleston just makes sense to me looking around at the layout of everything.

Towson should be in the north


A conference and/or division with Hampton and Campbell in it doesn’t make sense to me at all. It’s trash.

Accepting a trash conference means we don’t have any self respect as a school, and to me is overall unsatisfactory.

UNCW, CofC, and WM all need to be making a concerted effort to get out of this conference. Trying to appease these schools by adding a school like Hampton is one of the worst moves I’ve ever seen. Campbell isn’t much better either. Adding Winthrop doesn’t move the meter for me at all.

Best option is to get out of the CAA at all costs, because the leadership of the conference is horrid at best.


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Great stump speech

Whats your solution


I said it. UNCW, CoC, and WM all need to be making a concerted move to leave the CAA.

My issue is less with the schools in the conference, and more with conference leadership. We all know the CAA leadership has sucked for decades now, and this new plan of adding Hampton to the conference proves its not improving anytime soon.

I don’t care to discuss dream conference locations for UNCW, because until some sort of action is taken, it’s clear we’re just sitting in the backseat of an old Ford Escort, watching all of our neighbors buy new vehicles and saying “well, at least whoever is driving this Escort can get us a few miles down the road before it breaks.”

I’ll leave all the “solutions” to you folks that like to pretend you’re making real decisions on a message board, but the reality is we are in a crap conference and it’s getting worse, not better. Trust me. I’ve read through dozens on dozens of these threads over the years, on our board and others. It’s the same BS over and over. “We should add _____ and _____, blah blah blah.” If it makes you feel better, have at it.

I’m simply stating that this conference is trash. I don’t need to justify my opinion with a solution. That’s not our role.


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Not a fan of the CAA either or what is evolving into, but complaining without a solution isnt my bag.

Its easy to say leave the CAA.

The reality is its probably our best option since the A10 isn't calling, the SoCon just isn't going to work and W&M and maybe Elon too like the CAA and where its heading
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CAA Expanding with Monmouth, Stony Brook and Hampton
(01-19-2022 02:02 PM)solohawks Wrote:  
(01-19-2022 01:55 PM)B_Hawk06 Wrote:  
(01-19-2022 01:45 PM)solohawks Wrote:  
(01-19-2022 11:06 AM)B_Hawk06 Wrote:  
(01-19-2022 10:16 AM)solohawks Wrote:  Winthrop and Campbell are arguably the top 2 baseball schools in the Big South now the Coastal is gone

A division of W&M, Hampton, Elon, Campbell, UNCW, Winthrop, and Charleston just makes sense to me looking around at the layout of everything.

Towson should be in the north


A conference and/or division with Hampton and Campbell in it doesn’t make sense to me at all. It’s trash.

Accepting a trash conference means we don’t have any self respect as a school, and to me is overall unsatisfactory.

UNCW, CofC, and WM all need to be making a concerted effort to get out of this conference. Trying to appease these schools by adding a school like Hampton is one of the worst moves I’ve ever seen. Campbell isn’t much better either. Adding Winthrop doesn’t move the meter for me at all.

Best option is to get out of the CAA at all costs, because the leadership of the conference is horrid at best.


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Great stump speech

Whats your solution


I said it. UNCW, CoC, and WM all need to be making a concerted move to leave the CAA.

My issue is less with the schools in the conference, and more with conference leadership. We all know the CAA leadership has sucked for decades now, and this new plan of adding Hampton to the conference proves its not improving anytime soon.

I don’t care to discuss dream conference locations for UNCW, because until some sort of action is taken, it’s clear we’re just sitting in the backseat of an old Ford Escort, watching all of our neighbors buy new vehicles and saying “well, at least whoever is driving this Escort can get us a few miles down the road before it breaks.”

I’ll leave all the “solutions” to you folks that like to pretend you’re making real decisions on a message board, but the reality is we are in a crap conference and it’s getting worse, not better. Trust me. I’ve read through dozens on dozens of these threads over the years, on our board and others. It’s the same BS over and over. “We should add _____ and _____, blah blah blah.” If it makes you feel better, have at it.

I’m simply stating that this conference is trash. I don’t need to justify my opinion with a solution. That’s not our role.


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Not a fan of the CAA either or what is evolving into, but complaining without a solution isnt my bag.

Its easy to say leave the CAA.

The reality is its probably our best option since the A10 isn't calling, the SoCon just isn't going to work and W&M and maybe Elon too like the CAA and where its heading


I don’t disagree with you about complaining without solutions… in real life where my opinions and decisions actually matter.

Difference being, this is a message board where ZERO percent of our opinions are taken into consideration, especially with something as grandeur as conference realignment. I know it’s your favorite subject to discuss and get into, and perhaps there’s truths to some of the opinions out there. Still doesn’t change the point I’m making. After hundreds of threads (across various school message boards) about this very topic over the years… has anything changed for the better in the CAA? Or are we still trending in an overall negative direction?

I also know it’s easy to say we should just leave the CAA, and it’s much harder to actually do. Doesn’t mean we shouldn’t have or still shouldn’t. Complacency is how things ALWAYS get worse, not better.

Also, you should venture over to the WM board and try to convince them they like the direction the CAA is headed. I’d love to sit back and watch that unfold. Lol


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RE: CAA Expanding with Monmouth, Stony Brook and Hampton
(01-19-2022 01:05 PM)bricksnivy Wrote:  Feels like UNCW is blindfolded, along for the ride and hoping for the best. Pretty bleak outlook as far as I can tell.

I keep wanting to believe that in just one of these realignment scrambles our Powers That Be will be proactive, see over the horizon, and take the necessary steps to shape our destiny rather than just accepting what comes.

When UNCW joined the CAA it stretched from Wilmington to Annapolis. It had a great eastern NC rivalry in ECU, familiar schools in Virginia, and a school like Navy that is in the national spotlight. Football wasn't a consideration. Getting to any game was at worst only a semi-ambitious road trip.

Now the Beast is something of a hodge-podge of institutions. The football tail is wagging the conference dog. It stretches from Charleston to Boston which no one is going to drive. The strongest programs have moved up and out, being replaced with programs who aspire to bigger things but have yet to achieve them.

And now to keep the CAA alive, schools are being talked about who virtually no one I know in NC cares about at all. No disrespect to the schools - I just mean that they are in no way natural rivals (I'm thinking of the northern names).

It's kind of sad.
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RE: CAA Expanding with Monmouth, Stony Brook and Hampton
(01-19-2022 02:15 PM)B_Hawk06 Wrote:  
(01-19-2022 02:02 PM)solohawks Wrote:  
(01-19-2022 01:55 PM)B_Hawk06 Wrote:  
(01-19-2022 01:45 PM)solohawks Wrote:  
(01-19-2022 11:06 AM)B_Hawk06 Wrote:  A conference and/or division with Hampton and Campbell in it doesn’t make sense to me at all. It’s trash.

Accepting a trash conference means we don’t have any self respect as a school, and to me is overall unsatisfactory.

UNCW, CofC, and WM all need to be making a concerted effort to get out of this conference. Trying to appease these schools by adding a school like Hampton is one of the worst moves I’ve ever seen. Campbell isn’t much better either. Adding Winthrop doesn’t move the meter for me at all.

Best option is to get out of the CAA at all costs, because the leadership of the conference is horrid at best.


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Great stump speech

Whats your solution


I said it. UNCW, CoC, and WM all need to be making a concerted move to leave the CAA.

My issue is less with the schools in the conference, and more with conference leadership. We all know the CAA leadership has sucked for decades now, and this new plan of adding Hampton to the conference proves its not improving anytime soon.

I don’t care to discuss dream conference locations for UNCW, because until some sort of action is taken, it’s clear we’re just sitting in the backseat of an old Ford Escort, watching all of our neighbors buy new vehicles and saying “well, at least whoever is driving this Escort can get us a few miles down the road before it breaks.”

I’ll leave all the “solutions” to you folks that like to pretend you’re making real decisions on a message board, but the reality is we are in a crap conference and it’s getting worse, not better. Trust me. I’ve read through dozens on dozens of these threads over the years, on our board and others. It’s the same BS over and over. “We should add _____ and _____, blah blah blah.” If it makes you feel better, have at it.

I’m simply stating that this conference is trash. I don’t need to justify my opinion with a solution. That’s not our role.


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Not a fan of the CAA either or what is evolving into, but complaining without a solution isnt my bag.

Its easy to say leave the CAA.

The reality is its probably our best option since the A10 isn't calling, the SoCon just isn't going to work and W&M and maybe Elon too like the CAA and where its heading


I don’t disagree with you about complaining without solutions… in real life where my opinions and decisions actually matter.

Difference being, this is a message board where ZERO percent of our opinions are taken into consideration, especially with something as grandeur as conference realignment. I know it’s your favorite subject to discuss and get into, and perhaps there’s truths to some of the opinions out there. Still doesn’t change the point I’m making. After hundreds of threads (across various school message boards) about this very topic over the years… has anything changed for the better in the CAA? Or are we still trending in an overall negative direction?

I also know it’s easy to say we should just leave the CAA, and it’s much harder to actually do. Doesn’t mean we shouldn’t have or still shouldn’t. Complacency is how things ALWAYS get worse, not better.

Also, you should venture over to the WM board and try to convince them they like the direction the CAA is headed. I’d love to sit back and watch that unfold. Lol


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Fair enough

It's just important to understand that while most don't like the current CAA, there really aren't any better alternatives in the current landscape.

I also think their is a HUGE disconnect between what the UNCW administration wants and what the UNCW fans at large want.
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RE: CAA Expanding with Monmouth, Stony Brook and Hampton
(01-19-2022 02:16 PM)70shawk Wrote:  
(01-19-2022 01:05 PM)bricksnivy Wrote:  Feels like UNCW is blindfolded, along for the ride and hoping for the best. Pretty bleak outlook as far as I can tell.

I keep wanting to believe that in just one of these realignment scrambles our Powers That Be will be proactive, see over the horizon, and take the necessary steps to shape our destiny rather than just accepting what comes.

When UNCW joined the CAA it stretched from Wilmington to Annapolis. It had a great eastern NC rivalry in ECU, familiar schools in Virginia, and a school like Navy that is in the national spotlight. Football wasn't a consideration. Getting to any game was at worst only a semi-ambitious road trip.

Now the Beast is something of a hodge-podge of institutions. The football tail is wagging the conference dog. It stretches from Charleston to Boston which no one is going to drive. The strongest programs have moved up and out, being replaced with programs who aspire to bigger things but have yet to achieve them.

And now to keep the CAA alive, schools are being talked about who virtually no one I know in NC cares about at all. No disrespect to the schools - I just mean that they are in no way natural rivals (I'm thinking of the northern names).

It's kind of sad.

And that's the core of the problem

There is no longer a southern basketball focused conference
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(01-19-2022 01:10 PM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  
(01-19-2022 01:00 PM)mainejeff Wrote:  
(01-19-2022 12:49 PM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  
(01-19-2022 12:42 PM)bricksnivy Wrote:  
(01-19-2022 12:28 PM)mainejeff Wrote:  So you think that "metro" and education go hand in hand? It's more about well funded schools, high school graduation rates and family dynamics.....how's the South doing with this?

I'm not equating metro and education. You called out flyover states, which commonly refers to rural areas between more heavily populated metros. That seemed ironic coming from someone representing the state of Maine. I suppose that was supposed to be a shot at North Carolina, but then again, surely an educated man like yourself realizes NC isn't a flyover state.

Why does someone who disparages the South spend time soliciting opinions from those at a southern university?
As someone who grew up in the Northeast, spent significant time in Maine and has lived in NC for 22 years, you can keep Maine sir. I'll take the South's quality of life any day of the week. Might want to travel out of the Northeast every now and then, it's a whole new world out there.

I lived in San Diego from 1999-2012.....and also in Tennessee for about a year. Is that enough for you?

Our weather sucks from November-March....I'll give you that. Honestly I think that everything East of the Rockies sucks weatherwise.....except the Southeast in the spring...and the Northeast in the summer/early fall.

I'm not surprised that someone from the South dislikes the Northeast....it's a different world. I would not be able to live in the South....the West Coast is the place to be.
Then I question the sanity of why you went back. Have a handful of friends in the same boat and I just don't get it. And, you couldn't pay me enough to live in Cali, yeah the weather is nice but that place should be an entirely different country. And the reason people are fleeing at an alarming rate to places like AZ and Texas. But, that's not a matter for discussion here.

All I will say is that sometimes life affects decisions on where to live....I plan on returning to CA eventually. And don't believe everything you hear about CA...especially if you have a certain political slant.

Now back on topic.....
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(01-19-2022 01:35 PM)B_Hawk06 Wrote:  To add to Brick’s points about Maine NOT being anything close to a metropolis…

The following should be pointed out:

1. Maine is essentially southeastern Canada, geographically.

2. The total population of Maine according to 2019 data was less than 1.4 million… in the entire state.

3. According to https://bangordailynews.com/2012/03/26/n...ationwide/ … Maine is the MOST RURAL of the 50 states. That’s quite impressive given the land area of states like Texas, and Alaska.

I’ve been to Maine. It’s beautiful, but it’s not the typical “Northeastern” state, and attempting to lump Maine in with the likes of Massachusetts, Delaware, NJ, Pennsylvania, New York, etc is laughable. Maine is more like an eastern version of Montana… except it’s more RURAL.

In essence, Maine is the southern hillbilly version of Canadians. Congrats Jeff, ya done played yourself son.


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(01-19-2022 02:16 PM)70shawk Wrote:  
(01-19-2022 01:05 PM)bricksnivy Wrote:  Feels like UNCW is blindfolded, along for the ride and hoping for the best. Pretty bleak outlook as far as I can tell.

I keep wanting to believe that in just one of these realignment scrambles our Powers That Be will be proactive, see over the horizon, and take the necessary steps to shape our destiny rather than just accepting what comes.

When UNCW joined the CAA it stretched from Wilmington to Annapolis. It had a great eastern NC rivalry in ECU, familiar schools in Virginia, and a school like Navy that is in the national spotlight. Football wasn't a consideration. Getting to any game was at worst only a semi-ambitious road trip.

Now the Beast is something of a hodge-podge of institutions. The football tail is wagging the conference dog. It stretches from Charleston to Boston which no one is going to drive. The strongest programs have moved up and out, being replaced with programs who aspire to bigger things but have yet to achieve them.

And now to keep the CAA alive, schools are being talked about who virtually no one I know in NC cares about at all. No disrespect to the schools - I just mean that they are in no way natural rivals (I'm thinking of the northern names).

It's kind of sad.

This is a great synopsis. When the CAA invited Delaware into the fold.....it opened the football can of worms. The A-10 had taken over the administration of Yankee Conference football which at the time included JMU, W&M, Delaware, Towson, Hofstra and Northeastern. I think that once the CAA invited Delaware, Towson, Hofstra and Northeastern into the fold....they had delusions of grandeur and maybe thought that they could become the A-10....but with football. On paper it looked good....until.....Hofstra and Northeastern promptly dropped football upon entering the CAA for all sports....and a few years later the best basketball programs in the league (VCU, GMU, ODU) left for other conferences. This squelched the dream of an all sports (including football) league and CAA Football had to become a separate entity with many associate members (Maine, UNH, Albany, Stony Brook, URI, Villanova, Richmond). Now it looks like the league....lead by Delaware and W&M....are once again trying to establish an all-sports (including football) CAA.....this time it really makes sense in order to preserve the stability of the league.....Hampton, Monmouth and Stony Brook are not threats to leave for FBS football....or any other conference. This might not jive with the hopes and dreams of UNCW or its fans......but I believe that it is what is happening like it or not.
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(01-19-2022 01:35 PM)B_Hawk06 Wrote:  To add to Brick’s points about Maine NOT being anything close to a metropolis…

The following should be pointed out:

1. Maine is essentially southeastern Canada, geographically.

2. The total population of Maine according to 2019 data was less than 1.4 million… in the entire state.

3. According to https://bangordailynews.com/2012/03/26/n...ationwide/ … Maine is the MOST RURAL of the 50 states. That’s quite impressive given the land area of states like Texas, and Alaska.

I’ve been to Maine. It’s beautiful, but it’s not the typical “Northeastern” state, and attempting to lump Maine in with the likes of Massachusetts, Delaware, NJ, Pennsylvania, New York, etc is laughable. Maine is more like an eastern version of Montana… except it’s more RURAL.

In essence, Maine is the southern hillbilly version of Canadians. Congrats Jeff, ya done played yourself son.


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(01-19-2022 03:15 PM)B_Hawk06 Wrote:  
(01-19-2022 02:55 PM)mainejeff Wrote:  
(01-19-2022 01:35 PM)B_Hawk06 Wrote:  To add to Brick’s points about Maine NOT being anything close to a metropolis…

The following should be pointed out:

1. Maine is essentially southeastern Canada, geographically.

2. The total population of Maine according to 2019 data was less than 1.4 million… in the entire state.

3. According to https://bangordailynews.com/2012/03/26/n...ationwide/ … Maine is the MOST RURAL of the 50 states. That’s quite impressive given the land area of states like Texas, and Alaska.

I’ve been to Maine. It’s beautiful, but it’s not the typical “Northeastern” state, and attempting to lump Maine in with the likes of Massachusetts, Delaware, NJ, Pennsylvania, New York, etc is laughable. Maine is more like an eastern version of Montana… except it’s more RURAL.

In essence, Maine is the southern hillbilly version of Canadians. Congrats Jeff, ya done played yourself son.


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^^ That got weird! ^^ (“bump”)

(01-19-2022 11:51 AM)OrangeCamel Wrote:  Great discussion here. With football being a factor, I see many scenarios for Campbell. Curious about the UNCW/southern CAA perspective….

How hard has UNCW and CofC pushed the league to add schools in the Carolinas? Has Elon?

Is it really the CAA’s goal to get to 14 (vs 12) and include more in the south? If so, is there any intentional reason why we’ve only heard about Hampton and the two up north at this point?

Fun to watch and anticipate how this shakes out!
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What is Jeff's point about UofD? What power, pull, influence do they have? I don't understand his conclusion that UofD or W&M are controlling the league. Maybe someone who attends practices can explain this to me.
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A few years ago he was on here talking about Maine having a better basketball program than UNCW and he was bragging about hockey championships. He likes to argue it seems, but he didn't weigh in on our PG situation. I guess he wasn't interested in talking basketball this go around; an 0-11 record will do that to a fella.
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(01-19-2022 04:13 PM)bricksnivy Wrote:  What is Jeff's point about UofD? What power, pull, influence do they have? I don't understand his conclusion that UofD or W&M are controlling the league. Maybe someone who attends practices can explain this to me.


My guess is football, but I haven’t met a WM fan yet that is excited about being in the CAA or the new direction of the conference. I may be wrong, but whatevs.

I’m almost certain he was taking the route that they hold the cards as it pertains to football and the conference headed towards a football focus with the non-football members getting carried around like the adopted kids nobody wanted.


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