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RE: CAA Expanding to 14 per Matt Brown
(01-18-2022 11:40 AM)mainejeff Wrote:  
(01-18-2022 10:22 AM)TribePride91 Wrote:  Delaware and W&M don't control anything. If they did, then Richmond, VCU and George Mason would not have left in the first place. I still think the smart move is for Elon, W&M, COC and UNCW to work together. The SoCon works well in that scenario. Honestly, I don't see anything else out there that works at all. The Sunbelt was a move for JMU football. It likely won't be super beneficial for any of their other sports and the costs increase. It was a move for FBS football and (G5 at that). Most of the teams that have made the jump for football face a reality of not reaching the P5 level and not getting the financial windfall they hoped. But, at least they have some level of stability. The CAA is not stable at this point. While I have enjoyed the basketball and baseball games with Hofstra and Northeastern, the long term viability is uncertain. Clearly, there is more support for football in the South. So, for most of the schools, it comes down to deciding do they value football or basketball more.

Delaware and William & Mary most certainly DO control the future of this league at this point. Everyone else is just along for the ride until the game of musical chairs ends.

I think its more accurate to say the A10 controls the future of the league.

They have since they took Richmond and ruined the CAA SoCon merger.

If the A10 wants anyone in the CAA it will once again take who they want and cause the CAA to have to react.

Once the CAA establishes divisions, even if W&M or Delaware leave, they can be plugged in with a northern or southern school respectively. Getting divisions is key to formalize what the CAA is, a group of northern privates who want to be like the Ivy League but don't want the restrictions of the Patriot League and a group of high achieving mid atlantic southern schools with a tendency to emphasize basketball
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RE: CAA Expanding to 14 per Matt Brown
(01-18-2022 11:40 AM)mainejeff Wrote:  Delaware and William & Mary most certainly DO control the future of this league at this point. Everyone else is just along for the ride until the game of musical chairs ends.

This is so silly. Delaware doesn't control anything but their own fate at this point, their only upward mobility option is FBS and that ain't happening soon. William & Mary, at most, influences the decision-making calculus of Elon, UNCW, and CofC, but that applies to all four schools.
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(01-18-2022 02:01 PM)jcohen42 Wrote:  
(01-18-2022 11:40 AM)mainejeff Wrote:  Delaware and William & Mary most certainly DO control the future of this league at this point. Everyone else is just along for the ride until the game of musical chairs ends.

This is so silly. Delaware doesn't control anything but their own fate at this point, their only upward mobility option is FBS and that ain't happening soon. William & Mary, at most, influences the decision-making calculus of Elon, UNCW, and CofC, but that applies to all four schools.


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So you guys are saying that Stony Brook, Monmouth and Hampton are coming because UNCW advocated for them?
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RE: CAA Expanding to 14 per Matt Brown
(01-18-2022 02:38 PM)mainejeff Wrote:  So you guys are saying that Stony Brook, Monmouth and Hampton are coming because UNCW advocated for them?

Mainejeff is a prime example of the dumbing down of America.
Where in the world do you come up with such drivel?
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(01-18-2022 02:38 PM)mainejeff Wrote:  So you guys are saying that Stony Brook, Monmouth and Hampton are coming because UNCW advocated for them?

They are coming because SoCon schools once again turned the CAA down.
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(01-18-2022 02:38 PM)mainejeff Wrote:  So you guys are saying that Stony Brook, Monmouth and Hampton are coming because UNCW advocated for them?


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(01-18-2022 02:38 PM)mainejeff Wrote:  So you guys are saying that Stony Brook, Monmouth and Hampton are coming because UNCW advocated for them?

They are coming because the CAA is desperate to hold itself together and there are no southern schools interested in the conference. The "northern" shift of the CAA is bringing about its' demise. It will be nothing more than a glorfied AE in the near future.
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RE: CAA Expanding with Monmouth, Stony Brook and Hampton
So, if the reports are true for CAA expansion, here's where we are right now.

North - Stony Brook, Hofstra, Drexel, Monmouth, Northeastern, Delaware,
South - Towson, W&M, Hampton, Elon, UNCW, CofC

Since Monmouth and Hampton will bring additional football to the CAA and Stony Brook already has their football with the CAA, that leaves room for a football school and a non football school to be added to get to 14. Towson could easily slide to the north if two southern school are added and I would imagine Towson would rather be with the northern schools and are pushing for that.

So, who's next? The only positive in these additions from a UNCW perspective is that a N/S divisional setup is now a reality, with a more compact geography for travel and rivalries. That should make the CAA more attractive for schools to come on board. It's also more attractive for the southern schools to stay on board. I could really see Campbell jumping at this setup if offered and i'd support them. And although we've heard there are no SoCon schools interested, we should go hard after UNCG. If these additions happened the CAA would look like this:

N- Stony Brook, Hofstra, Drexel, Monmouth, Northeastern, Delaware, Towson
S - W&M, Hampton, Elon, UNCW, CofC, Campbell, UNCG

Elon and Campbell are both on the rise in their athletic investments and already have newer, upgraded basketball arenas that should help in rectruitment. UNCG had their day in the sun with Wes Miller, but he's gone and UNCG is aleady sliding this year. The SoCon has the same problem as the CAA did, with several football schools that are prime candidates to go FBS. If UNCG balked, it wouldn't surprise me if the CAA goes after High Point as a replacement as a non football school. As much as CofC would like to see a school from South Carolina come on board, I just don't see that happening.

From a baseball perspective, Campbell has a strong program and finished #37 RPI last year ahead of all CAA teams. Monmouth was just behind UNCW at #74, Stony Brook was top #97 and UNCG was #100.

I think the time is right for UNCW to move to the SoCon with William and Mary, Elon and CofC. The SoCon is a much stronger baseball conference than the CAA, so a move to the SoCon would help us in baseball and wouldn't hurt us in basketball But if that option isn't available, and we could add two strong southern schools to the CAA, it would still remain a good place to be.
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RE: CAA Expanding with Monmouth, Stony Brook and Hampton
(01-19-2022 07:28 AM)82hawk Wrote:  So, if the reports are true for CAA expansion, here's where we are right now.

North - Stony Brook, Hofstra, Drexel, Monmouth, Northeastern, Delaware,
South - Towson, W&M, Hampton, Elon, UNCW, CofC

Since Monmouth and Hampton will bring additional football to the CAA and Stony Brook already has their football with the CAA, that leaves room for a football school and a non football school to be added to get to 14. Towson could easily slide to the north if two southern school are added and I would imagine Towson would rather be with the northern schools and are pushing for that.

So, who's next? The only positive in these additions from a UNCW perspective is that a N/S divisional setup is now a reality, with a more compact geography for travel and rivalries. That should make the CAA more attractive for schools to come on board. It's also more attractive for the southern schools to stay on board. I could really see Campbell jumping at this setup if offered and i'd support them. And although we've heard there are no SoCon schools interested, we should go hard after UNCG. If these additions happened the CAA would look like this:

N- Stony Brook, Hofstra, Drexel, Monmouth, Northeastern, Delaware, Towson
S - W&M, Hampton, Elon, UNCW, CofC, Campbell, UNCG

Elon and Campbell are both on the rise in their athletic investments and already have newer, upgraded basketball arenas that should help in rectruitment. UNCG had their day in the sun with Wes Miller, but he's gone and UNCG is aleady sliding this year. The SoCon has the same problem as the CAA did, with several football schools that are prime candidates to go FBS. If UNCG balked, it wouldn't surprise me if the CAA goes after High Point as a replacement as a non football school. As much as CofC would like to see a school from South Carolina come on board, I just don't see that happening.

From a baseball perspective, Campbell has a strong program and finished #37 RPI last year ahead of all CAA teams. Monmouth was just behind UNCW at #74, Stony Brook was top #97 and UNCG was #100.

I think the time is right for UNCW to move to the SoCon with William and Mary, Elon and CofC. The SoCon is a much stronger baseball conference than the CAA, so a move to the SoCon would help us in baseball and wouldn't hurt us in basketball But if that option isn't available, and we could add two strong southern schools to the CAA, it would still remain a good place to be.

Adding Campbell and UNCG isn't exciting, but much preferred to Campbell and HPU. I'm not sure about Campbell demographics, but Elon and HPU both pull 75% or more of their students from out of state.

Staying with CoC and adding CU and UNCG is really best case scenario, in my mind. It's a sad reality.
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RE: CAA Expanding with Monmouth, Stony Brook and Hampton
(01-19-2022 08:33 AM)bricksnivy Wrote:  
(01-19-2022 07:28 AM)82hawk Wrote:  So, if the reports are true for CAA expansion, here's where we are right now.

North - Stony Brook, Hofstra, Drexel, Monmouth, Northeastern, Delaware,
South - Towson, W&M, Hampton, Elon, UNCW, CofC

Since Monmouth and Hampton will bring additional football to the CAA and Stony Brook already has their football with the CAA, that leaves room for a football school and a non football school to be added to get to 14. Towson could easily slide to the north if two southern school are added and I would imagine Towson would rather be with the northern schools and are pushing for that.

So, who's next? The only positive in these additions from a UNCW perspective is that a N/S divisional setup is now a reality, with a more compact geography for travel and rivalries. That should make the CAA more attractive for schools to come on board. It's also more attractive for the southern schools to stay on board. I could really see Campbell jumping at this setup if offered and i'd support them. And although we've heard there are no SoCon schools interested, we should go hard after UNCG. If these additions happened the CAA would look like this:

N- Stony Brook, Hofstra, Drexel, Monmouth, Northeastern, Delaware, Towson
S - W&M, Hampton, Elon, UNCW, CofC, Campbell, UNCG

Elon and Campbell are both on the rise in their athletic investments and already have newer, upgraded basketball arenas that should help in rectruitment. UNCG had their day in the sun with Wes Miller, but he's gone and UNCG is aleady sliding this year. The SoCon has the same problem as the CAA did, with several football schools that are prime candidates to go FBS. If UNCG balked, it wouldn't surprise me if the CAA goes after High Point as a replacement as a non football school. As much as CofC would like to see a school from South Carolina come on board, I just don't see that happening.

From a baseball perspective, Campbell has a strong program and finished #37 RPI last year ahead of all CAA teams. Monmouth was just behind UNCW at #74, Stony Brook was top #97 and UNCG was #100.

I think the time is right for UNCW to move to the SoCon with William and Mary, Elon and CofC. The SoCon is a much stronger baseball conference than the CAA, so a move to the SoCon would help us in baseball and wouldn't hurt us in basketball But if that option isn't available, and we could add two strong southern schools to the CAA, it would still remain a good place to be.

Adding Campbell and UNCG isn't exciting, but much preferred to Campbell and HPU. I'm not sure about Campbell demographics, but Elon and HPU both pull 75% or more of their students from out of state.

Staying with CoC and adding CU and UNCG is really best case scenario, in my mind. It's a sad reality.

Campbell and Winthrop should be #13 and #14 with Towson going up north.

UNCG aint coming.
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RE: CAA Expanding with Monmouth, Stony Brook and Hampton
(01-19-2022 09:26 AM)solohawks Wrote:  
(01-19-2022 08:33 AM)bricksnivy Wrote:  
(01-19-2022 07:28 AM)82hawk Wrote:  So, if the reports are true for CAA expansion, here's where we are right now.

North - Stony Brook, Hofstra, Drexel, Monmouth, Northeastern, Delaware,
South - Towson, W&M, Hampton, Elon, UNCW, CofC

Since Monmouth and Hampton will bring additional football to the CAA and Stony Brook already has their football with the CAA, that leaves room for a football school and a non football school to be added to get to 14. Towson could easily slide to the north if two southern school are added and I would imagine Towson would rather be with the northern schools and are pushing for that.

So, who's next? The only positive in these additions from a UNCW perspective is that a N/S divisional setup is now a reality, with a more compact geography for travel and rivalries. That should make the CAA more attractive for schools to come on board. It's also more attractive for the southern schools to stay on board. I could really see Campbell jumping at this setup if offered and i'd support them. And although we've heard there are no SoCon schools interested, we should go hard after UNCG. If these additions happened the CAA would look like this:

N- Stony Brook, Hofstra, Drexel, Monmouth, Northeastern, Delaware, Towson
S - W&M, Hampton, Elon, UNCW, CofC, Campbell, UNCG

Elon and Campbell are both on the rise in their athletic investments and already have newer, upgraded basketball arenas that should help in rectruitment. UNCG had their day in the sun with Wes Miller, but he's gone and UNCG is aleady sliding this year. The SoCon has the same problem as the CAA did, with several football schools that are prime candidates to go FBS. If UNCG balked, it wouldn't surprise me if the CAA goes after High Point as a replacement as a non football school. As much as CofC would like to see a school from South Carolina come on board, I just don't see that happening.

From a baseball perspective, Campbell has a strong program and finished #37 RPI last year ahead of all CAA teams. Monmouth was just behind UNCW at #74, Stony Brook was top #97 and UNCG was #100.

I think the time is right for UNCW to move to the SoCon with William and Mary, Elon and CofC. The SoCon is a much stronger baseball conference than the CAA, so a move to the SoCon would help us in baseball and wouldn't hurt us in basketball But if that option isn't available, and we could add two strong southern schools to the CAA, it would still remain a good place to be.

Adding Campbell and UNCG isn't exciting, but much preferred to Campbell and HPU. I'm not sure about Campbell demographics, but Elon and HPU both pull 75% or more of their students from out of state.

Staying with CoC and adding CU and UNCG is really best case scenario, in my mind. It's a sad reality.

Campbell and Winthrop should be #13 and #14 with Towson going up north.

UNCG aint coming.

I don't have an opinion about Winthrop, but if we're raiding the Big South why Winthrop over UNCA or NC A&T? Is Winthrop significant to CoC for any reason? Maybe they tap into the Charlotte market, but do they really?
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(01-19-2022 09:36 AM)bricksnivy Wrote:  
(01-19-2022 09:26 AM)solohawks Wrote:  
(01-19-2022 08:33 AM)bricksnivy Wrote:  
(01-19-2022 07:28 AM)82hawk Wrote:  So, if the reports are true for CAA expansion, here's where we are right now.

North - Stony Brook, Hofstra, Drexel, Monmouth, Northeastern, Delaware,
South - Towson, W&M, Hampton, Elon, UNCW, CofC

Since Monmouth and Hampton will bring additional football to the CAA and Stony Brook already has their football with the CAA, that leaves room for a football school and a non football school to be added to get to 14. Towson could easily slide to the north if two southern school are added and I would imagine Towson would rather be with the northern schools and are pushing for that.

So, who's next? The only positive in these additions from a UNCW perspective is that a N/S divisional setup is now a reality, with a more compact geography for travel and rivalries. That should make the CAA more attractive for schools to come on board. It's also more attractive for the southern schools to stay on board. I could really see Campbell jumping at this setup if offered and i'd support them. And although we've heard there are no SoCon schools interested, we should go hard after UNCG. If these additions happened the CAA would look like this:

N- Stony Brook, Hofstra, Drexel, Monmouth, Northeastern, Delaware, Towson
S - W&M, Hampton, Elon, UNCW, CofC, Campbell, UNCG

Elon and Campbell are both on the rise in their athletic investments and already have newer, upgraded basketball arenas that should help in rectruitment. UNCG had their day in the sun with Wes Miller, but he's gone and UNCG is aleady sliding this year. The SoCon has the same problem as the CAA did, with several football schools that are prime candidates to go FBS. If UNCG balked, it wouldn't surprise me if the CAA goes after High Point as a replacement as a non football school. As much as CofC would like to see a school from South Carolina come on board, I just don't see that happening.

From a baseball perspective, Campbell has a strong program and finished #37 RPI last year ahead of all CAA teams. Monmouth was just behind UNCW at #74, Stony Brook was top #97 and UNCG was #100.

I think the time is right for UNCW to move to the SoCon with William and Mary, Elon and CofC. The SoCon is a much stronger baseball conference than the CAA, so a move to the SoCon would help us in baseball and wouldn't hurt us in basketball But if that option isn't available, and we could add two strong southern schools to the CAA, it would still remain a good place to be.

Adding Campbell and UNCG isn't exciting, but much preferred to Campbell and HPU. I'm not sure about Campbell demographics, but Elon and HPU both pull 75% or more of their students from out of state.

Staying with CoC and adding CU and UNCG is really best case scenario, in my mind. It's a sad reality.

Campbell and Winthrop should be #13 and #14 with Towson going up north.

UNCG aint coming.

I don't have an opinion about Winthrop, but if we're raiding the Big South why Winthrop over UNCA or NC A&T? Is Winthrop significant to CoC for any reason? Maybe they tap into the Charlotte market, but do they really?

I would say all in all Winthrop has been the most consistent basketball success in the Big South. Winthrop has 11 Big South Championships, the next closest in UNC Ashville with 5. Being near Charlotte is nice to, though i don't have any delusions about them making a major impact in that media market. Winthrop would also serve as a better travel partner for Charleston, allowing us to partner with Campbell, making travel a bit easier for all.
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RE: CAA Expanding with Monmouth, Stony Brook and Hampton
(01-19-2022 09:57 AM)solohawks Wrote:  
(01-19-2022 09:36 AM)bricksnivy Wrote:  
(01-19-2022 09:26 AM)solohawks Wrote:  
(01-19-2022 08:33 AM)bricksnivy Wrote:  
(01-19-2022 07:28 AM)82hawk Wrote:  So, if the reports are true for CAA expansion, here's where we are right now.

North - Stony Brook, Hofstra, Drexel, Monmouth, Northeastern, Delaware,
South - Towson, W&M, Hampton, Elon, UNCW, CofC

Since Monmouth and Hampton will bring additional football to the CAA and Stony Brook already has their football with the CAA, that leaves room for a football school and a non football school to be added to get to 14. Towson could easily slide to the north if two southern school are added and I would imagine Towson would rather be with the northern schools and are pushing for that.

So, who's next? The only positive in these additions from a UNCW perspective is that a N/S divisional setup is now a reality, with a more compact geography for travel and rivalries. That should make the CAA more attractive for schools to come on board. It's also more attractive for the southern schools to stay on board. I could really see Campbell jumping at this setup if offered and i'd support them. And although we've heard there are no SoCon schools interested, we should go hard after UNCG. If these additions happened the CAA would look like this:

N- Stony Brook, Hofstra, Drexel, Monmouth, Northeastern, Delaware, Towson
S - W&M, Hampton, Elon, UNCW, CofC, Campbell, UNCG

Elon and Campbell are both on the rise in their athletic investments and already have newer, upgraded basketball arenas that should help in rectruitment. UNCG had their day in the sun with Wes Miller, but he's gone and UNCG is aleady sliding this year. The SoCon has the same problem as the CAA did, with several football schools that are prime candidates to go FBS. If UNCG balked, it wouldn't surprise me if the CAA goes after High Point as a replacement as a non football school. As much as CofC would like to see a school from South Carolina come on board, I just don't see that happening.

From a baseball perspective, Campbell has a strong program and finished #37 RPI last year ahead of all CAA teams. Monmouth was just behind UNCW at #74, Stony Brook was top #97 and UNCG was #100.

I think the time is right for UNCW to move to the SoCon with William and Mary, Elon and CofC. The SoCon is a much stronger baseball conference than the CAA, so a move to the SoCon would help us in baseball and wouldn't hurt us in basketball But if that option isn't available, and we could add two strong southern schools to the CAA, it would still remain a good place to be.

Adding Campbell and UNCG isn't exciting, but much preferred to Campbell and HPU. I'm not sure about Campbell demographics, but Elon and HPU both pull 75% or more of their students from out of state.

Staying with CoC and adding CU and UNCG is really best case scenario, in my mind. It's a sad reality.

Campbell and Winthrop should be #13 and #14 with Towson going up north.

UNCG aint coming.

I don't have an opinion about Winthrop, but if we're raiding the Big South why Winthrop over UNCA or NC A&T? Is Winthrop significant to CoC for any reason? Maybe they tap into the Charlotte market, but do they really?

I would say all in all Winthrop has been the most consistent basketball success in the Big South. Winthrop has 11 Big South Championships, the next closest in UNC Ashville with 5. Being near Charlotte is nice to, though i don't have any delusions about them making a major impact in that media market. Winthrop would also serve as a better travel partner for Charleston, allowing us to partner with Campbell, making travel a bit easier for all.

Appreciate the feedback. I wasn't familiar with Winthrop's basketball success. That is probably the most appealing to me out of all of the potential benefits. I hope that W&M and CoC are tied with us, whether it be in the CAA or in an unexpected scenario where we join the SoCon.
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(01-19-2022 10:09 AM)bricksnivy Wrote:  
(01-19-2022 09:57 AM)solohawks Wrote:  
(01-19-2022 09:36 AM)bricksnivy Wrote:  
(01-19-2022 09:26 AM)solohawks Wrote:  
(01-19-2022 08:33 AM)bricksnivy Wrote:  Adding Campbell and UNCG isn't exciting, but much preferred to Campbell and HPU. I'm not sure about Campbell demographics, but Elon and HPU both pull 75% or more of their students from out of state.

Staying with CoC and adding CU and UNCG is really best case scenario, in my mind. It's a sad reality.

Campbell and Winthrop should be #13 and #14 with Towson going up north.

UNCG aint coming.

I don't have an opinion about Winthrop, but if we're raiding the Big South why Winthrop over UNCA or NC A&T? Is Winthrop significant to CoC for any reason? Maybe they tap into the Charlotte market, but do they really?

I would say all in all Winthrop has been the most consistent basketball success in the Big South. Winthrop has 11 Big South Championships, the next closest in UNC Ashville with 5. Being near Charlotte is nice to, though i don't have any delusions about them making a major impact in that media market. Winthrop would also serve as a better travel partner for Charleston, allowing us to partner with Campbell, making travel a bit easier for all.

Appreciate the feedback. I wasn't familiar with Winthrop's basketball success. That is probably the most appealing to me out of all of the potential benefits. I hope that W&M and CoC are tied with us, whether it be in the CAA or in an unexpected scenario where we join the SoCon.

Winthrop and Campbell are arguably the top 2 baseball schools in the Big South now the Coastal is gone

A division of W&M, Hampton, Elon, Campbell, UNCW, Winthrop, and Charleston just makes sense to me looking around at the layout of everything.

Towson should be in the north
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I have said winthrop in other post they have been good in basketball with different coaches and good in baseball. I do not know about the other sports.

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CAA Expanding with Monmouth, Stony Brook and Hampton
(01-19-2022 10:16 AM)solohawks Wrote:  
(01-19-2022 10:09 AM)bricksnivy Wrote:  
(01-19-2022 09:57 AM)solohawks Wrote:  
(01-19-2022 09:36 AM)bricksnivy Wrote:  
(01-19-2022 09:26 AM)solohawks Wrote:  Campbell and Winthrop should be #13 and #14 with Towson going up north.

UNCG aint coming.

I don't have an opinion about Winthrop, but if we're raiding the Big South why Winthrop over UNCA or NC A&T? Is Winthrop significant to CoC for any reason? Maybe they tap into the Charlotte market, but do they really?

I would say all in all Winthrop has been the most consistent basketball success in the Big South. Winthrop has 11 Big South Championships, the next closest in UNC Ashville with 5. Being near Charlotte is nice to, though i don't have any delusions about them making a major impact in that media market. Winthrop would also serve as a better travel partner for Charleston, allowing us to partner with Campbell, making travel a bit easier for all.

Appreciate the feedback. I wasn't familiar with Winthrop's basketball success. That is probably the most appealing to me out of all of the potential benefits. I hope that W&M and CoC are tied with us, whether it be in the CAA or in an unexpected scenario where we join the SoCon.

Winthrop and Campbell are arguably the top 2 baseball schools in the Big South now the Coastal is gone

A division of W&M, Hampton, Elon, Campbell, UNCW, Winthrop, and Charleston just makes sense to me looking around at the layout of everything.

Towson should be in the north


A conference and/or division with Hampton and Campbell in it doesn’t make sense to me at all. It’s trash.

Accepting a trash conference means we don’t have any self respect as a school, and to me is overall unsatisfactory.

UNCW, CofC, and WM all need to be making a concerted effort to get out of this conference. Trying to appease these schools by adding a school like Hampton is one of the worst moves I’ve ever seen. Campbell isn’t much better either. Adding Winthrop doesn’t move the meter for me at all.

Best option is to get out of the CAA at all costs, because the leadership of the conference is horrid at best.


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01-19-2022 11:06 AM
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RE: CAA Expanding with Monmouth, Stony Brook and Hampton
(01-19-2022 11:06 AM)B_Hawk06 Wrote:  A conference and/or division with Hampton and Campbell in it doesn’t make sense to me at all. It’s trash.

Accepting a trash conference means we don’t have any self respect as a school, and to me is overall unsatisfactory.

UNCW, CofC, and WM all need to be making a concerted effort to get out of this conference. Trying to appease these schools by adding a school like Hampton is one of the worst moves I’ve ever seen. Campbell isn’t much better either. Adding Winthrop doesn’t move the meter for me at all.

Best option is to get out of the CAA at all costs, because the leadership of the conference is horrid at best.
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I hear you, but is the SoCon better? From my perspective, it's better in that it is regionally aligned, but I'm not sure the quality is better...doesn't seem significantly better anyway. Winthrop, Campbell, Hampton = A&T, Citadel, VMI...I'm not going to be more excited to player Mercer or Samford than Monmouth and Stony Brook.

The reason I called it a sad reality is that neither scenario is ideal. A "trash" conference with a Northeast footprint vs a trash conference with a Southeast footprint.
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01-19-2022 11:38 AM
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RE: CAA Expanding with Monmouth, Stony Brook and Hampton
Great discussion here. With football being a factor, I see many scenarios for Campbell. Curious about the UNCW/southern CAA perspective….

How hard has UNCW and CofC pushed the league to add schools in the Carolinas? Has Elon?

Is it really the CAA’s goal to get to 14 (vs 12) and include more in the south? If so, is there any intentional reason why we’ve only heard about Hampton and the two up north at this point?

Fun to watch and anticipate how this shakes out!
01-19-2022 11:51 AM
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RE: CAA Expanding with Monmouth, Stony Brook and Hampton
(01-18-2022 02:42 PM)solohawks Wrote:  
(01-18-2022 02:38 PM)mainejeff Wrote:  So you guys are saying that Stony Brook, Monmouth and Hampton are coming because UNCW advocated for them?

They are coming because SoCon schools once again turned the CAA down.

Thank-you!
01-19-2022 11:53 AM
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