(05-03-2022 04:06 PM)Stugray2 Wrote:  The CAA schools can simply withdraw from the CAAF. They'll have 9 football schools in the "newly sponsored by the CAA football. " The AEC schools won't have a choice.

They technically can. But they won't. Because they have zero reason to.

(05-03-2022 04:06 PM)Stugray2 Wrote:  The CAA schools can simply withdraw from the CAAF. They'll have 9 football schools in the "newly sponsored by the CAA football. " The AEC schools won't have a choice.

And that’s probably the only scenario that leads to AEC football. There’s no reason for them to start it on their own.

(05-03-2022 02:12 PM)MattBrownEP Wrote:  I don't know if it's death watch for the MEAC yet, but boy Chicago State is in a TON of trouble. Back in the fall, the school had *three* different leagues interested in them. Their senior leadership managed to alienate all three...either over money, demanding to not have provisional membership, or football. They also had affiliate deals for individual sports essentially agreed upon, only to be blown up at the last second.

Now one of the smallest staffs in all of D1 has to figure out how to build fall schedules (even though most schools have already finished fall scheduling), AND recruit a new AD. It's a complete disaster.

How serious were the looks from the other leagues? Really serious or just curtesy calls? I imagine the AD bailing didn’t help matters.


The OVC seemed the best fit geographically and athletically, but they found better options to shore up football. The Southland seems to be stabilized as well, even more than the OVC.

The MEAC is on life support but Chicago State wouldn’t have helped much.

I don’t know how they are going to survive as an independent. No, they weren’t a threat to make the big dance, but they still had that carrot out there and they did show some improvement.

Finding a schedule will be difficult. If I’m on the team I’m headed to the portal.

Chicago State has maybe 100 people at their basketball games. If you’re there as a basketball player, you know from day 1, you’re playing on a losing team. I am not sure what carrot you’re referring to is. They add nothing to any conference, except a warm body. So if you’re on that team, this changes nothing. Instead of losing games against WAC schools, you will lose to other teams now. Probably get to see more of the country now too.

(05-03-2022 02:12 PM)MattBrownEP Wrote:  I don't know if it's death watch for the MEAC yet, but boy Chicago State is in a TON of trouble. Back in the fall, the school had *three* different leagues interested in them. Their senior leadership managed to alienate all three...either over money, demanding to not have provisional membership, or football. They also had affiliate deals for individual sports essentially agreed upon, only to be blown up at the last second.

Now one of the smallest staffs in all of D1 has to figure out how to build fall schedules (even though most schools have already finished fall scheduling), AND recruit a new AD. It's a complete disaster.

What's funny is that the best chance of Chicago State being able to cobble together an Independent schedule in basketball next season likely involve playing a lot of MEAC teams in January and February. NJIT was the last school to do it, and nine of their nineteen D-1 games their last two years after 1/1 were against MEAC schools. And with all the MEAC schools now looking for 17 non-conference games, I have to imagine some will be receptive.

Just saying that in a conference a coach can tell recruits they are who CSU needs to improve and make a run in a conference tournament. Sure, it’s not likely to happen but it does have a sliver of truth.

Now they are just another Carver College. Travel anywhere for a check. See if any AAC or CUSA teams need an easy home game when it is their turn to be off.

(05-03-2022 04:50 PM)Fighting Muskie Wrote:  

(05-03-2022 04:06 PM)Stugray2 Wrote:  The CAA schools can simply withdraw from the CAAF. They'll have 9 football schools in the "newly sponsored by the CAA football. " The AEC schools won't have a choice.

And that’s probably the only scenario that leads to AEC football. There’s no reason for them to start it on their own.

At some point the CAA will be so big that there will be almost no north-south games.

When Maine and Elon tie for the title they will go to the tie-breakers:

1. Head-to-head: Nope.
2. Common opponents: Both have a win over Drexel (1-0).
3. Strength of schedule. Tied.
4. Beauty Contest: Some players are reluctant at first until told of the NIL possibilities.

(05-03-2022 08:41 PM)jimrtex Wrote:  

(05-03-2022 04:50 PM)Fighting Muskie Wrote:  

(05-03-2022 04:06 PM)Stugray2 Wrote:  The CAA schools can simply withdraw from the CAAF. They'll have 9 football schools in the "newly sponsored by the CAA football. " The AEC schools won't have a choice.

And that’s probably the only scenario that leads to AEC football. There’s no reason for them to start it on their own.

At some point the CAA will be so big that there will be almost no north-south games.

When Maine and Elon tie for the title they will go to the tie-breakers:

1. Head-to-head: Nope.
2. Common opponents: Both have a win over Drexel (1-0).
3. Strength of schedule. Tied.
4. Beauty Contest: Some players are reluctant at first until told of the NIL possibilities.

Right now the CAA is at 14 football and 13 basketball schools, I really think the size thing is overstated (plus, Drexel doesn't have football). The odd number of basketball schools could cause some annoyances, but that's comparable to the Big 10, A10, ACC, and SEC.

Obviously there's a lot less money involved in the CAA than in those conferences, but it's a multi bid league for football, so the direct conference championship matters less. If both Maine and Elon are tied at the top of the CAA with a 9-2 record or whatever, they'll both make the playoffs, regardless of who is awarded the CAA championship.

(05-03-2022 08:41 PM)jimrtex Wrote:  

(05-03-2022 04:50 PM)Fighting Muskie Wrote:  

(05-03-2022 04:06 PM)Stugray2 Wrote:  The CAA schools can simply withdraw from the CAAF. They'll have 9 football schools in the "newly sponsored by the CAA football. " The AEC schools won't have a choice.

And that’s probably the only scenario that leads to AEC football. There’s no reason for them to start it on their own.

At some point the CAA will be so big that there will be almost no north-south games.

When Maine and Elon tie for the title they will go to the tie-breakers:

1. Head-to-head: Nope.
2. Common opponents: Both have a win over Drexel (1-0).
3. Strength of schedule. Tied.
4. Beauty Contest: Some players are reluctant at first until told of the NIL possibilities.

Gotta love this forum. Only here will people pretend to be experts on the CAA, while also thinking that Drexel has football. Brilliant.

(05-03-2022 10:29 PM)jcohen42 Wrote:  

(05-03-2022 08:41 PM)jimrtex Wrote:  

(05-03-2022 04:50 PM)Fighting Muskie Wrote:  

(05-03-2022 04:06 PM)Stugray2 Wrote:  The CAA schools can simply withdraw from the CAAF. They'll have 9 football schools in the "newly sponsored by the CAA football. " The AEC schools won't have a choice.

And that’s probably the only scenario that leads to AEC football. There’s no reason for them to start it on their own.

At some point the CAA will be so big that there will be almost no north-south games.

When Maine and Elon tie for the title they will go to the tie-breakers:

1. Head-to-head: Nope.
2. Common opponents: Both have a win over Drexel (1-0).
3. Strength of schedule. Tied.
4. Beauty Contest: Some players are reluctant at first until told of the NIL possibilities.

Gotta love this forum. Only here will people pretend to be experts on the CAA, while also thinking that Drexel has football. Brilliant.

That poster routinely types up several paragraphs on a topic like he’s some expert while having basic things factually wrong (like Drexel having FB) that unintentionally expose himself. If you pay close attention, many of his posts have absurd errors.

The energy spent on walls of text would be much better spent at getting the simple fundamentals of the content right.

(05-03-2022 10:29 PM)jcohen42 Wrote:  

(05-03-2022 08:41 PM)jimrtex Wrote:  

(05-03-2022 04:50 PM)Fighting Muskie Wrote:  

(05-03-2022 04:06 PM)Stugray2 Wrote:  The CAA schools can simply withdraw from the CAAF. They'll have 9 football schools in the "newly sponsored by the CAA football. " The AEC schools won't have a choice.

And that’s probably the only scenario that leads to AEC football. There’s no reason for them to start it on their own.

At some point the CAA will be so big that there will be almost no north-south games.

When Maine and Elon tie for the title they will go to the tie-breakers:

1. Head-to-head: Nope.
2. Common opponents: Both have a win over Drexel (1-0).
3. Strength of schedule. Tied.
4. Beauty Contest: Some players are reluctant at first until told of the NIL possibilities.

Gotta love this forum. Only here will people pretend to be experts on the CAA, while also thinking that Drexel has football. Brilliant.

They forfeited the game against Maine and Elon because they didn't have a football team.

(05-03-2022 02:12 PM)MattBrownEP Wrote:  I don't know if it's death watch for the MEAC yet, but boy Chicago State is in a TON of trouble. Back in the fall, the school had *three* different leagues interested in them. Their senior leadership managed to alienate all three...either over money, demanding to not have provisional membership, or football. They also had affiliate deals for individual sports essentially agreed upon, only to be blown up at the last second.

Now one of the smallest staffs in all of D1 has to figure out how to build fall schedules (even though most schools have already finished fall scheduling), AND recruit a new AD. It's a complete disaster.

Matt, any more info on what affiliate memberships Chicago State had but blew?