(11-30-2021 06:49 PM)WARDAWG93 Wrote:  

(11-30-2021 04:50 PM)stingingeagle Wrote:  

(11-30-2021 03:57 PM)ericsaid Wrote:  

(11-30-2021 02:46 PM)stingingeagle Wrote:  Do these monster contracts have have buyout clauses? Who's going to afford that buyout? Brian Kelly goes from G5 to custom made cupcake schedule that is ND, to brutal SEC schedule at LSU. I don't know enough about him - does anything think he's an SEC caliber coach worthy of a salary like that? USC and LSU may or may not be off the beaten path for a long time if those dudes don't pan out.

Brian Kelly took Notre Dame to the BCS National Championship and two CFP Berths. People say he was blown out in the CFP but the truth is that blow outs have become common and his losses were never the worst in that years playoff. They lose 31-3 or something to Clemson and then Clemson beats Alabama 44-16. Then they lose 31-17 to Alabama and Alabama wipes the floor with Ohio State. Yet Notre Dame was the program that got crap for being blown out, not Alabama or Ohio State.

He also took Cincinnati to the BCS before going to Notre Dame.

So yes, I'd say he's a helluva football coach and is likely to succeed anywhere. I think LSU was looking for that Les Miles/Nick Saban like guy. He will probably win between 9 and 12 games every year that he's there, my guess. They will be fast, physical, and dominate the lines with the recruits he should be able to pull. Big 10 ball in the SEC with top tier SEC talent.

Looks like I'm now properly educated. I knew Cincinnati was good when he was there but didn't follow ND at all so I had no idea. It's definitely a far cry from Orgeron.

People can bag on O but he is still the one responsible for putting together the coaches and the players that made up probably the greatest college football team to ever exist. Could he sustain it? Obviously not, but he certainly got it done that year.

If Orgeron could perfect his formula for finding excellent coordinators like he did with Kiffin and Brady, he'll be perfectly fine.

(11-30-2021 03:19 PM)CajunFan3406 Wrote:  

(11-30-2021 11:57 AM)ericsaid Wrote:  Who is paying the coaches? Is it the school or is it boosters?

How can Louisiana residents sit back and talk about the financial situation of higher education in their state and then applaud a $100 million contract for a single coach? How? This goes beyond collegiate athletics and is now in the realm of socioeconomic issues, especially for Louisiana universities.

Boosters, specifically TAF. The state has a cap on what can be paid from state funds, $400K.

In the past LSU would transfer athletics money back to academics, not sure they still do though. Just due to lower revenue due to Covid, legal fees, high facility maintenance costs, and they're paying way more in buyout money than they ever were before.

Yep.
Stories about how he left Cinci and ND do not paint the guy in a flattering light. Perfect for la state.

(11-30-2021 06:49 PM)WARDAWG93 Wrote:  

(11-30-2021 04:50 PM)stingingeagle Wrote:  

(11-30-2021 03:57 PM)ericsaid Wrote:  

(11-30-2021 02:46 PM)stingingeagle Wrote:  Do these monster contracts have have buyout clauses? Who's going to afford that buyout? Brian Kelly goes from G5 to custom made cupcake schedule that is ND, to brutal SEC schedule at LSU. I don't know enough about him - does anything think he's an SEC caliber coach worthy of a salary like that? USC and LSU may or may not be off the beaten path for a long time if those dudes don't pan out.

Brian Kelly took Notre Dame to the BCS National Championship and two CFP Berths. People say he was blown out in the CFP but the truth is that blow outs have become common and his losses were never the worst in that years playoff. They lose 31-3 or something to Clemson and then Clemson beats Alabama 44-16. Then they lose 31-17 to Alabama and Alabama wipes the floor with Ohio State. Yet Notre Dame was the program that got crap for being blown out, not Alabama or Ohio State.

He also took Cincinnati to the BCS before going to Notre Dame.

So yes, I'd say he's a helluva football coach and is likely to succeed anywhere. I think LSU was looking for that Les Miles/Nick Saban like guy. He will probably win between 9 and 12 games every year that he's there, my guess. They will be fast, physical, and dominate the lines with the recruits he should be able to pull. Big 10 ball in the SEC with top tier SEC talent.

Looks like I'm now properly educated. I knew Cincinnati was good when he was there but didn't follow ND at all so I had no idea. It's definitely a far cry from Orgeron.

People can bag on O but he is still the one responsible for putting together the coaches and the players that made up probably the greatest college football team to ever exist. Could he sustain it? Obviously not, but he certainly got it done that year.

Sorry, but no. 1995 Nebraska and 2001 Miami were the greatest college football teams ever. And I’d put 1996 Florida up there too. LSU always has top notch talent. The only thing that put them over the top that year was Joe Burrow. That was his championship just like Auburn’s was a product of Cam Newton and FSUs was a product of Jameis Winston. That’s why Chizick, Jimbo, and Orgeron were out of jobs or onto other jobs almost immediately after winning….because it was clear the winning combo in all 3 situations was always top-tier talent paired with 1 once-in-a-generation talent. All 3 had very little to do with the coach.

(11-30-2021 08:33 PM)Dirty Myrtle Wrote:  

(11-30-2021 06:49 PM)WARDAWG93 Wrote:  

(11-30-2021 04:50 PM)stingingeagle Wrote:  

(11-30-2021 03:57 PM)ericsaid Wrote:  

(11-30-2021 02:46 PM)stingingeagle Wrote:  Do these monster contracts have have buyout clauses? Who's going to afford that buyout? Brian Kelly goes from G5 to custom made cupcake schedule that is ND, to brutal SEC schedule at LSU. I don't know enough about him - does anything think he's an SEC caliber coach worthy of a salary like that? USC and LSU may or may not be off the beaten path for a long time if those dudes don't pan out.

Brian Kelly took Notre Dame to the BCS National Championship and two CFP Berths. People say he was blown out in the CFP but the truth is that blow outs have become common and his losses were never the worst in that years playoff. They lose 31-3 or something to Clemson and then Clemson beats Alabama 44-16. Then they lose 31-17 to Alabama and Alabama wipes the floor with Ohio State. Yet Notre Dame was the program that got crap for being blown out, not Alabama or Ohio State.

He also took Cincinnati to the BCS before going to Notre Dame.

So yes, I'd say he's a helluva football coach and is likely to succeed anywhere. I think LSU was looking for that Les Miles/Nick Saban like guy. He will probably win between 9 and 12 games every year that he's there, my guess. They will be fast, physical, and dominate the lines with the recruits he should be able to pull. Big 10 ball in the SEC with top tier SEC talent.

Looks like I'm now properly educated. I knew Cincinnati was good when he was there but didn't follow ND at all so I had no idea. It's definitely a far cry from Orgeron.

People can bag on O but he is still the one responsible for putting together the coaches and the players that made up probably the greatest college football team to ever exist. Could he sustain it? Obviously not, but he certainly got it done that year.

Sorry, but no. 1995 Nebraska and 2001 Miami were the greatest college football teams ever. And I’d put 1996 Florida up there too. LSU always has top notch talent. The only thing that put them over the top that year was Joe Burrow. That was his championship just like Auburn’s was a product of Cam Newton and FSUs was a product of Jameis Winston. That’s why Chizick, Jimbo, and Orgeron were out of jobs or onto other jobs almost immediately after winning….because it was clear the winning combo in all 3 situations was always top-tier talent paired with 1 once-in-a-generation talent. All 3 had very little to do with the coach.

Um, no. I get what you are saying but you are wrong. You need to go back and take a look at the entire offense as well as the defense. There was WAY more to that LSU team than just Burrow. Furthermore, you cannot discount the contributions of Joe Brady. Without him Burrow is another decent college QB. He transformed that offense into a truly professional unit.

(11-29-2021 10:59 PM)ericsaid Wrote:  So what's going on here? Why is there all of the sudden a ton of shuffling? I suppose they got some Midwest Success from the Joe Bro's so now they want more?

My best guess for next events is Cristobal or Kiffin to Miami.

I'm thinking probably Kiffin to Miami, but while I was at work, I happened to run into a Miami fan, and asked him about Lane Kiffin coming over there. He said Kiffin needed to stay at Ole Miss because he is a crybaby!!! If other Miami fans share his views, then maybe Cristobal is more likely, although I hope not (my second fave teams are Oregon & Troy)

(11-30-2021 09:43 PM)WARDAWG93 Wrote:  

(11-30-2021 08:33 PM)Dirty Myrtle Wrote:  

(11-30-2021 06:49 PM)WARDAWG93 Wrote:  

(11-30-2021 04:50 PM)stingingeagle Wrote:  

(11-30-2021 03:57 PM)ericsaid Wrote:  Brian Kelly took Notre Dame to the BCS National Championship and two CFP Berths. People say he was blown out in the CFP but the truth is that blow outs have become common and his losses were never the worst in that years playoff. They lose 31-3 or something to Clemson and then Clemson beats Alabama 44-16. Then they lose 31-17 to Alabama and Alabama wipes the floor with Ohio State. Yet Notre Dame was the program that got crap for being blown out, not Alabama or Ohio State.

He also took Cincinnati to the BCS before going to Notre Dame.

So yes, I'd say he's a helluva football coach and is likely to succeed anywhere. I think LSU was looking for that Les Miles/Nick Saban like guy. He will probably win between 9 and 12 games every year that he's there, my guess. They will be fast, physical, and dominate the lines with the recruits he should be able to pull. Big 10 ball in the SEC with top tier SEC talent.

Looks like I'm now properly educated. I knew Cincinnati was good when he was there but didn't follow ND at all so I had no idea. It's definitely a far cry from Orgeron.

People can bag on O but he is still the one responsible for putting together the coaches and the players that made up probably the greatest college football team to ever exist. Could he sustain it? Obviously not, but he certainly got it done that year.

Sorry, but no. 1995 Nebraska and 2001 Miami were the greatest college football teams ever. And I’d put 1996 Florida up there too. LSU always has top notch talent. The only thing that put them over the top that year was Joe Burrow. That was his championship just like Auburn’s was a product of Cam Newton and FSUs was a product of Jameis Winston. That’s why Chizick, Jimbo, and Orgeron were out of jobs or onto other jobs almost immediately after winning….because it was clear the winning combo in all 3 situations was always top-tier talent paired with 1 once-in-a-generation talent. All 3 had very little to do with the coach.

Um, no. I get what you are saying but you are wrong. You need to go back and take a look at the entire offense as well as the defense. There was WAY more to that LSU team than just Burrow. Furthermore, you cannot discount the contributions of Joe Brady. Without him Burrow is another decent college QB. He transformed that offense into a truly professional unit.

As I said LSU always has top tier talent. It’s not like they were a team of 2 stars that O turned into a team of 5 stars and won with. Saban wins, and when those players are gone, he reloads. Swinney at Clemson has built a program to the point where he won 2 National Championships in 3 years with 2 different QBs. Ohio State is that way too. That is totally different than having 1 great year because you happened to stumble on a once in a generation game changer. Saban/Swinney/Ohio State have built programs. Orgeron, Chizik, and Jimbo had 1 great year because they had 1 truly great player. That’s the difference. And Burrow would’ve only been a “decent college QB”? He sure looks beyond decent in the NFL. If he can remain healthy from here out, he looks like a future HOFer to me.

(12-01-2021 06:13 AM)Dirty Myrtle Wrote:  

(11-30-2021 09:43 PM)WARDAWG93 Wrote:  

(11-30-2021 08:33 PM)Dirty Myrtle Wrote:  

(11-30-2021 06:49 PM)WARDAWG93 Wrote:  

(11-30-2021 04:50 PM)stingingeagle Wrote:  Looks like I'm now properly educated. I knew Cincinnati was good when he was there but didn't follow ND at all so I had no idea. It's definitely a far cry from Orgeron.

People can bag on O but he is still the one responsible for putting together the coaches and the players that made up probably the greatest college football team to ever exist. Could he sustain it? Obviously not, but he certainly got it done that year.

Sorry, but no. 1995 Nebraska and 2001 Miami were the greatest college football teams ever. And I’d put 1996 Florida up there too. LSU always has top notch talent. The only thing that put them over the top that year was Joe Burrow. That was his championship just like Auburn’s was a product of Cam Newton and FSUs was a product of Jameis Winston. That’s why Chizick, Jimbo, and Orgeron were out of jobs or onto other jobs almost immediately after winning….because it was clear the winning combo in all 3 situations was always top-tier talent paired with 1 once-in-a-generation talent. All 3 had very little to do with the coach.

Um, no. I get what you are saying but you are wrong. You need to go back and take a look at the entire offense as well as the defense. There was WAY more to that LSU team than just Burrow. Furthermore, you cannot discount the contributions of Joe Brady. Without him Burrow is another decent college QB. He transformed that offense into a truly professional unit.

As I said LSU always has top tier talent. It’s not like they were a team of 2 stars that O turned into a team of 5 stars and won with. Saban wins, and when those players are gone, he reloads. Swinney at Clemson has built a program to the point where he won 2 National Championships in 3 years with 2 different QBs. Ohio State is that way too. That is totally different than having 1 great year because you happened to stumble on a once in a generation game changer. Saban/Swinney/Ohio State have built programs. Orgeron, Chizik, and Jimbo had 1 great year because they had 1 truly great player. That’s the difference. And Burrow would’ve only been a “decent college QB”? He sure looks beyond decent in the NFL. If he can remain healthy from here out, he looks like a future HOFer to me.

Not much of what you just said seems relevant to the original post which was about O assembling the greatest college team ever. You cited some historical counterpoints at the very beginning of your first response, which you should have kept going down that road, but instead you post this which is mainly just complimentary of the recent success of the Ohio St, Bama, and Clemson programs/coaches. Are you trying to say that one of the recent teams from those three programs was the greatest ever?

(12-01-2021 07:34 AM)CajunFan3406 Wrote:  

(12-01-2021 06:13 AM)Dirty Myrtle Wrote:  

(11-30-2021 09:43 PM)WARDAWG93 Wrote:  

(11-30-2021 08:33 PM)Dirty Myrtle Wrote:  

(11-30-2021 06:49 PM)WARDAWG93 Wrote:  People can bag on O but he is still the one responsible for putting together the coaches and the players that made up probably the greatest college football team to ever exist. Could he sustain it? Obviously not, but he certainly got it done that year.

Sorry, but no. 1995 Nebraska and 2001 Miami were the greatest college football teams ever. And I’d put 1996 Florida up there too. LSU always has top notch talent. The only thing that put them over the top that year was Joe Burrow. That was his championship just like Auburn’s was a product of Cam Newton and FSUs was a product of Jameis Winston. That’s why Chizick, Jimbo, and Orgeron were out of jobs or onto other jobs almost immediately after winning….because it was clear the winning combo in all 3 situations was always top-tier talent paired with 1 once-in-a-generation talent. All 3 had very little to do with the coach.

Um, no. I get what you are saying but you are wrong. You need to go back and take a look at the entire offense as well as the defense. There was WAY more to that LSU team than just Burrow. Furthermore, you cannot discount the contributions of Joe Brady. Without him Burrow is another decent college QB. He transformed that offense into a truly professional unit.

As I said LSU always has top tier talent. It’s not like they were a team of 2 stars that O turned into a team of 5 stars and won with. Saban wins, and when those players are gone, he reloads. Swinney at Clemson has built a program to the point where he won 2 National Championships in 3 years with 2 different QBs. Ohio State is that way too. That is totally different than having 1 great year because you happened to stumble on a once in a generation game changer. Saban/Swinney/Ohio State have built programs. Orgeron, Chizik, and Jimbo had 1 great year because they had 1 truly great player. That’s the difference. And Burrow would’ve only been a “decent college QB”? He sure looks beyond decent in the NFL. If he can remain healthy from here out, he looks like a future HOFer to me.

Not much of what you just said seems relevant to the original post which was about O assembling the greatest college team ever. You cited some historical counterpoints at the very beginning of your first response, which you should have kept going down that road, but instead you post this which is mainly just complimentary of the recent success of the Ohio St, Bama, and Clemson programs/coaches. Are you trying to say that one of the recent teams from those three programs was the greatest ever?

No, I clearly said what were the best 2 teams ever. Though as far as program building for the long term, it’s hard to argue against what Saban and Dabo have done over the past decade. But the 2019 LSU team was a typical LSU team (top 6-8 talent) combined with a generational talent (Burrow). I don’t agree that a 1 year flash in the pan team can be deemed “greatest team ever” when you’ve got other teams that were “built” and achieved much longer term success.

Only chiming in to note that I think people should also mention Nick Fairley as a generational talent on that 2010 AU team. That crew was destined for greatness.

(12-01-2021 07:46 AM)Dirty Myrtle Wrote:  

(12-01-2021 07:34 AM)CajunFan3406 Wrote:  

(12-01-2021 06:13 AM)Dirty Myrtle Wrote:  

(11-30-2021 09:43 PM)WARDAWG93 Wrote:  

(11-30-2021 08:33 PM)Dirty Myrtle Wrote:  Sorry, but no. 1995 Nebraska and 2001 Miami were the greatest college football teams ever. And I’d put 1996 Florida up there too. LSU always has top notch talent. The only thing that put them over the top that year was Joe Burrow. That was his championship just like Auburn’s was a product of Cam Newton and FSUs was a product of Jameis Winston. That’s why Chizick, Jimbo, and Orgeron were out of jobs or onto other jobs almost immediately after winning….because it was clear the winning combo in all 3 situations was always top-tier talent paired with 1 once-in-a-generation talent. All 3 had very little to do with the coach.

Um, no. I get what you are saying but you are wrong. You need to go back and take a look at the entire offense as well as the defense. There was WAY more to that LSU team than just Burrow. Furthermore, you cannot discount the contributions of Joe Brady. Without him Burrow is another decent college QB. He transformed that offense into a truly professional unit.

As I said LSU always has top tier talent. It’s not like they were a team of 2 stars that O turned into a team of 5 stars and won with. Saban wins, and when those players are gone, he reloads. Swinney at Clemson has built a program to the point where he won 2 National Championships in 3 years with 2 different QBs. Ohio State is that way too. That is totally different than having 1 great year because you happened to stumble on a once in a generation game changer. Saban/Swinney/Ohio State have built programs. Orgeron, Chizik, and Jimbo had 1 great year because they had 1 truly great player. That’s the difference. And Burrow would’ve only been a “decent college QB”? He sure looks beyond decent in the NFL. If he can remain healthy from here out, he looks like a future HOFer to me.

Not much of what you just said seems relevant to the original post which was about O assembling the greatest college team ever. You cited some historical counterpoints at the very beginning of your first response, which you should have kept going down that road, but instead you post this which is mainly just complimentary of the recent success of the Ohio St, Bama, and Clemson programs/coaches. Are you trying to say that one of the recent teams from those three programs was the greatest ever?

No, I clearly said what were the best 2 teams ever. Though as far as program building for the long term, it’s hard to argue against what Saban and Dabo have done over the past decade. But the 2019 LSU team was a typical LSU team (top 6-8 talent) combined with a generational talent (Burrow). I don’t agree that a 1 year flash in the pan team can be deemed “greatest team ever” when you’ve got other teams that were “built” and achieved much longer term success.

Yes you named the teams you thought were the best ever, which I already mentioned that you did. I've never seen someone argue that a team was or wasn't the best ever based on length of time they were successful. Often the metric is who they beat that year, margin of victory, and players sent to the pros. I just don't see the relevance in using a "length of dominance" metric when greatest teams ever are often discussed on a single year basis, a la 2001 Miami or 1995 Nebraska.

(12-01-2021 03:49 AM)DawgNBama Wrote:  

(11-29-2021 10:59 PM)ericsaid Wrote:  So what's going on here? Why is there all of the sudden a ton of shuffling? I suppose they got some Midwest Success from the Joe Bro's so now they want more?

My best guess for next events is Cristobal or Kiffin to Miami.

I'm thinking probably Kiffin to Miami, but while I was at work, I happened to run into a Miami fan, and asked him about Lane Kiffin coming over there. He said Kiffin needed to stay at Ole Miss because he is a crybaby!!! If other Miami fans share his views, then maybe Cristobal is more likely, although I hope not (my second fave teams are Oregon & Troy)

If I'm a Miami fan, I want Kiffin. Kiffin is Miami in a single person and he's the only person I could see bringing that Miami swag back.

(12-01-2021 07:27 PM)ericsaid Wrote:  

(12-01-2021 03:49 AM)DawgNBama Wrote:  

(11-29-2021 10:59 PM)ericsaid Wrote:  So what's going on here? Why is there all of the sudden a ton of shuffling? I suppose they got some Midwest Success from the Joe Bro's so now they want more?

My best guess for next events is Cristobal or Kiffin to Miami.

I'm thinking probably Kiffin to Miami, but while I was at work, I happened to run into a Miami fan, and asked him about Lane Kiffin coming over there. He said Kiffin needed to stay at Ole Miss because he is a crybaby!!! If other Miami fans share his views, then maybe Cristobal is more likely, although I hope not (my second fave teams are Oregon & Troy)

If I'm a Miami fan, I want Kiffin. Kiffin is Miami in a single person and he's the only person I could see bringing that Miami swag back.

Agreed. Kiffen led OM to 10 regular season wins, something that had never been done at that place. He turned F_U into a two year juggernaut. He’s a bleep, but he’s grown into a damn good coach. I hope he leaves, because OM people and the Walmart fans they attract are exponentially more arrogant when they are winning.

(12-01-2021 06:13 AM)Dirty Myrtle Wrote:  

(11-30-2021 09:43 PM)WARDAWG93 Wrote:  

(11-30-2021 08:33 PM)Dirty Myrtle Wrote:  

(11-30-2021 06:49 PM)WARDAWG93 Wrote:  

(11-30-2021 04:50 PM)stingingeagle Wrote:  Looks like I'm now properly educated. I knew Cincinnati was good when he was there but didn't follow ND at all so I had no idea. It's definitely a far cry from Orgeron.

People can bag on O but he is still the one responsible for putting together the coaches and the players that made up probably the greatest college football team to ever exist. Could he sustain it? Obviously not, but he certainly got it done that year.

Sorry, but no. 1995 Nebraska and 2001 Miami were the greatest college football teams ever. And I’d put 1996 Florida up there too. LSU always has top notch talent. The only thing that put them over the top that year was Joe Burrow. That was his championship just like Auburn’s was a product of Cam Newton and FSUs was a product of Jameis Winston. That’s why Chizick, Jimbo, and Orgeron were out of jobs or onto other jobs almost immediately after winning….because it was clear the winning combo in all 3 situations was always top-tier talent paired with 1 once-in-a-generation talent. All 3 had very little to do with the coach.

Um, no. I get what you are saying but you are wrong. You need to go back and take a look at the entire offense as well as the defense. There was WAY more to that LSU team than just Burrow. Furthermore, you cannot discount the contributions of Joe Brady. Without him Burrow is another decent college QB. He transformed that offense into a truly professional unit.

As I said LSU always has top tier talent. It’s not like they were a team of 2 stars that O turned into a team of 5 stars and won with. Saban wins, and when those players are gone, he reloads. Swinney at Clemson has built a program to the point where he won 2 National Championships in 3 years with 2 different QBs. Ohio State is that way too. That is totally different than having 1 great year because you happened to stumble on a once in a generation game changer. Saban/Swinney/Ohio State have built programs. Orgeron, Chizik, and Jimbo had 1 great year because they had 1 truly great player. That’s the difference. And Burrow would’ve only been a “decent college QB”? He sure looks beyond decent in the NFL. If he can remain healthy from here out, he looks like a future HOFer to me.

Look at Burrow's 2018 stats with pretty much the same guys and tell me he still would have been the Heisman winner without Brady. He wasn't anywhere near being a frontrunner at the beginning of the 2019 season. Go back and watch some of those games. Yes, Burrow had pinpoint accuracy but a whole lot of those passes came down to NFL caliber receptions to go with his accuracy.

https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/pla...row-1.html

Maybe the potential was always there, but the coaching wasn't. If he were that good on his own he would have never left Ohio State. I'm not trying to downplay what Burrow did but to say it was all him or just because of him is just shear lunacy. You want to talk about what he's doing in the NFL? Well what about what Edwards-Helaire, Jefferson, Marshall and Chase are doing in the NFL? How about the offensive line for that team? 11 offensive starters from the 2019 LSU team are in the NFL. 11! 95 Nebraska and 01 Ohio State are nowhere near as good as that 2019 LSU. Nebraska played a grand total to 2 ranked teams all year and one of those was Florida for the championship. Miami has a better argument in that they played 5 ranked teams but only 1 was a top 5 team. LSU faced 7 ranked teams with 4 of them being Top 10 and they obliterated every one of them. 2019 LSU is the greatest college football team ever. The rest are fighting for 2nd place.

I remember reading that LSU was about 100 million in debt back in 2019. In 2020 they lost over 80 million in revenue due to the Covid pandemic. Now they spend like 20 million to buy out the old coach then another 20 million for the buyout from ND. Then they have to pay his insane coaching salary which is double most P5 schools. If he goes 1-11 for some reason next year they will also have to buy out that contract. I really hope this bites them in the butt, as this has gotten completely out of control.

(12-01-2021 10:10 PM)Eagleyed Wrote:  I remember reading that LSU was about 100 million in debt back in 2019. In 2020 they lost over 80 million in revenue due to the Covid pandemic. Now they spend like 20 million to buy out the old coach then another 20 million for the buyout from ND. Then they have to pay his insane coaching salary which is double most P5 schools. If he goes 1-11 for some reason next year they will also have to buy out that contract. I really hope this bites them in the butt, as this has gotten completely out of control.

Helps that the SEC sent every school $23 million to offset the losses. Additionally, and I could be wrong about this, I believe they still finished the year with a net profit of about $4 million.

(11-30-2021 10:42 AM)slycat Wrote:  Can pay a coach 15 million a year but critics said these schools can't afford to pay players.

Just wild that coach makes more in a year at LSU than schools like Nichols St have in their endowment.

Because boosters foot the bill, not the schools. Players are free to get NIL deals on their own merit now. The day of the poor little player is over. The players that cant get NIL deals are more than treated fairly with all the school provides and stipends. The star players are getting what they earn. The third-string true freshman center is probably getting more than he deserves.