(11-06-2021 07:43 PM)wmmii Wrote:  

(11-06-2021 06:44 PM)82hawk Wrote:  

(11-06-2021 06:37 PM)Tribal Wrote:  

(11-06-2021 04:06 PM)82hawk Wrote:  

(11-06-2021 03:24 PM)wmmii Wrote:  We need to be very attentive during realignment talks to the MBB programs of each school. We have a good foundation for MBB with the none football CAA members of NE, Hofstra, CoC, UNCW, and Drexel.

IMO build on this with schools that have solid football and MBB programs now and create two divisions to minimize the travel challenges that now exist.

With the movement of schools between conferences that has already started, W&M needs to position itself with options now and the CAA will needs to act to maintain their members in the South.

Since the CAA has a separate football conference with more non full CAA members than full CAA members, focusing on basketball and building the southern half of the conference would be smart. The A10 is known as a "basketball" conference, but half of the A10 members still have football located in a different conference. If the CAA would focus on schools with strong basketball, whether they have football or not, we could have the best of both worlds.

Most fans of non-football schools seem to feel this way, but it doesn’t apply to W&M. The focusing on basketball part…


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And why is that? Is CAA football going to get that much stronger after JMU left? And even if it does, does it matter? OTH, if the CAA could get back to multiple bids, would that matter to Tribe fans?

IMO W&M has a large and very supportive FB fan base but has desire to follow in the footsteps of JMU while still needing the CAA to be one of the top 3 FCS leagues.

Thus the need to balance both football and MBB. This is more achievable with a North and South division to solve travel and logistic cost.

CAA should look at attracting members with good FB and MBB while also going after none FB members with successful MBB. Plus we need several successful Southern FB members to retain Richmond and Elon who are an island with us.

The best way for the CAA to be relevant again is thru MBB. CAA desperately needs Southern members which could be Furman, Wofford, UNCG, Winthrop, or, ETSU. Vermont would be a good add for the North division. Some of these Southern schools could also address the FB needs.

CAA needs to expand to remain relevant IMO!

Agree with all of this, including the southern schools. I also think Campbell could join that group.

(11-06-2021 06:44 PM)82hawk Wrote:  

(11-06-2021 06:37 PM)Tribal Wrote:  

(11-06-2021 04:06 PM)82hawk Wrote:  

(11-06-2021 03:24 PM)wmmii Wrote:  We need to be very attentive during realignment talks to the MBB programs of each school. We have a good foundation for MBB with the none football CAA members of NE, Hofstra, CoC, UNCW, and Drexel.

IMO build on this with schools that have solid football and MBB programs now and create two divisions to minimize the travel challenges that now exist.

With the movement of schools between conferences that has already started, W&M needs to position itself with options now and the CAA will needs to act to maintain their members in the South.

Since the CAA has a separate football conference with more non full CAA members than full CAA members, focusing on basketball and building the southern half of the conference would be smart. The A10 is known as a "basketball" conference, but half of the A10 members still have football located in a different conference. If the CAA would focus on schools with strong basketball, whether they have football or not, we could have the best of both worlds.

Most fans of non-football schools seem to feel this way, but it doesn’t apply to W&M. The focusing on basketball part…


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And why is that? Is CAA football going to get that much stronger after JMU left? And even if it does, does it matter? OTH, if the CAA could get back to multiple bids, would that matter to Tribe fans?

Because football is king. It’s king in America and it’s king at W&M. It drives our giving and JMU leaving doesn’t change any of that. CAA football is not important to hawks fans and that’s understandable.


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(11-06-2021 08:07 PM)Tribal Wrote:  

(11-06-2021 06:44 PM)82hawk Wrote:  

(11-06-2021 06:37 PM)Tribal Wrote:  

(11-06-2021 04:06 PM)82hawk Wrote:  

(11-06-2021 03:24 PM)wmmii Wrote:  We need to be very attentive during realignment talks to the MBB programs of each school. We have a good foundation for MBB with the none football CAA members of NE, Hofstra, CoC, UNCW, and Drexel.

IMO build on this with schools that have solid football and MBB programs now and create two divisions to minimize the travel challenges that now exist.

With the movement of schools between conferences that has already started, W&M needs to position itself with options now and the CAA will needs to act to maintain their members in the South.

Since the CAA has a separate football conference with more non full CAA members than full CAA members, focusing on basketball and building the southern half of the conference would be smart. The A10 is known as a "basketball" conference, but half of the A10 members still have football located in a different conference. If the CAA would focus on schools with strong basketball, whether they have football or not, we could have the best of both worlds.

Most fans of non-football schools seem to feel this way, but it doesn’t apply to W&M. The focusing on basketball part…


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And why is that? Is CAA football going to get that much stronger after JMU left? And even if it does, does it matter? OTH, if the CAA could get back to multiple bids, would that matter to Tribe fans?

Because football is king. It’s king in America and it’s king at W&M. It drives our giving and JMU leaving doesn’t change any of that. CAA football is not important to hawks fans and that’s understandable.


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Worth a read as CAA/CAA members contemplate life after JMU.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/20...ge-sports/

(11-15-2021 07:57 AM)Florida tribe fan Wrote:  Worth a read as CAA/CAA members contemplate life after JMU.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/20...ge-sports/

the NCAA will change in the future.

It is comforting to know the report discussed is from the NCAA commission headed by Robert Gates.

(11-15-2021 11:48 AM)wmmii Wrote:  

(11-15-2021 07:57 AM)Florida tribe fan Wrote:  Worth a read as CAA/CAA members contemplate life after JMU.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/20...ge-sports/

the NCAA will change in the future.

It is comforting to know the report discussed is from the NCAA commission headed by Robert Gates.

If that is the former Sec. of Defense, I seen nothing comforting in that.

(11-15-2021 05:46 PM)The Cats Wrote:  

(11-15-2021 11:48 AM)wmmii Wrote:  

(11-15-2021 07:57 AM)Florida tribe fan Wrote:  Worth a read as CAA/CAA members contemplate life after JMU.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/20...ge-sports/

the NCAA will change in the future.

It is comforting to know the report discussed is from the NCAA commission headed by Robert Gates.

If that is the former Sec. of Defense, I seen nothing comforting in that.

Oh then you're welcome to **** off!

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(11-15-2021 06:22 PM)zablenoise Wrote:  

(11-15-2021 05:46 PM)The Cats Wrote:  

(11-15-2021 11:48 AM)wmmii Wrote:  

(11-15-2021 07:57 AM)Florida tribe fan Wrote:  Worth a read as CAA/CAA members contemplate life after JMU.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/20...ge-sports/

the NCAA will change in the future.

It is comforting to know the report discussed is from the NCAA commission headed by Robert Gates.

If that is the former Sec. of Defense, I seen nothing comforting in that.

Oh then you're welcome to **** off!

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Flagrant disregard for subject/verb agreement is inexcusable. It can’t be tolerated in this thread or any other. +1

Hoping Sec Gates’ inner Tribeness triumphs over his Aggieness.

(11-15-2021 07:34 PM)Florida tribe fan Wrote:  

(11-15-2021 06:22 PM)zablenoise Wrote:  

(11-15-2021 05:46 PM)The Cats Wrote:  

(11-15-2021 11:48 AM)wmmii Wrote:  

(11-15-2021 07:57 AM)Florida tribe fan Wrote:  Worth a read as CAA/CAA members contemplate life after JMU.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/20...ge-sports/

the NCAA will change in the future.

It is comforting to know the report discussed is from the NCAA commission headed by Robert Gates.

If that is the former Sec. of Defense, I seen nothing comforting in that.

Oh then you're welcome to **** off!

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Flagrant disregard for subject/verb agreement is inexcusable. It can’t be tolerated in this thread or any other. +1

Hoping Sec Gates’ inner Tribeness triumphs over his Aggieness.

You not seen his point?


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Bob Gates has remained active, true and a proud W&M Alumnus all throughout a great public service career for our nation.
He is a frequent visitor and has done much for our College.

I'm proud to have him as a fellow alumnus.

(11-16-2021 06:25 AM)bubbadog57 Wrote:  Bob Gates has remained active, true and a proud W&M Alumnus all throughout a great public service career for our nation.
He is a frequent visitor and has done much for our College.

I'm proud to have him as a fellow alumnus.

Agreed!

It is comforting to know the report discussed is from the NCAA commission headed by Robert Gates.

DEFUND the Grammar Police!!!

If the CAA is willing to take a school without football, I would try and get Winthrop.

Best hoops program in the Big South, nice facilities, near Charlotte for schools wanting to fly in.

The league can always add another football only school if it wants.

The A10 is adding Loyola Chicago, which puts them at 15 teams. I have no idea if they want to get to 16, and we'd be a long shot, but I'd like us to at least make a pitch to them.

The conference HQ is only like 20 minutes away in Newport News...

I don't think the A10 wants to talk to schools that have football. I think all the ones that have it are longtime members that they would not take again if they were applying now. A10 is all about basketball and wants all conference decisions to be make for basketball purposes only.

A10 adding Loyola because of one fat center and one old nun. #caa4life

(11-16-2021 04:27 PM)TDenverFan Wrote:  The A10 is adding Loyola Chicago, which puts them at 15 teams. I have no idea if they want to get to 16, and we'd be a long shot, but I'd like us to at least make a pitch to them.

The conference HQ is only like 20 minutes away in Newport News...

Great goal but like a 5th grader who is a C student applying for Harvard at this point.

(11-17-2021 07:59 AM)wmmii Wrote:  

(11-16-2021 04:27 PM)TDenverFan Wrote:  The A10 is adding Loyola Chicago, which puts them at 15 teams. I have no idea if they want to get to 16, and we'd be a long shot, but I'd like us to at least make a pitch to them.

The conference HQ is only like 20 minutes away in Newport News...

Great goal but like a 5th grader who is a C student applying for Harvard at this point.

Loyola brought the Chicago market. We have the greater Williamsburg - western Newport News market to offer.

(11-17-2021 07:59 AM)wmmii Wrote:  

(11-16-2021 04:27 PM)TDenverFan Wrote:  The A10 is adding Loyola Chicago, which puts them at 15 teams. I have no idea if they want to get to 16, and we'd be a long shot, but I'd like us to at least make a pitch to them.

The conference HQ is only like 20 minutes away in Newport News...

Great goal but like a 5th grader who is a C student applying for Harvard at this point.

No doubt, but it never hurts to make the contact, and the A10 could lose some teams in the next few years.

But yeah, even as a biased W&M fan I can think of a solid list of schools the A10 would likely have more interest in.

(11-17-2021 09:08 AM)billymac Wrote:  

(11-17-2021 07:59 AM)wmmii Wrote:  

(11-16-2021 04:27 PM)TDenverFan Wrote:  The A10 is adding Loyola Chicago, which puts them at 15 teams. I have no idea if they want to get to 16, and we'd be a long shot, but I'd like us to at least make a pitch to them.

The conference HQ is only like 20 minutes away in Newport News...

Great goal but like a 5th grader who is a C student applying for Harvard at this point.

Loyola brought the Chicago market. We have the greater Williamsburg - western Newport News market to offer.

Good point, but with our track record the location we have is irrelevant at this point.

(11-17-2021 09:08 AM)billymac Wrote:  Loyola brought the Chicago market.

Could expand what you mean by this?

In the early 2010s round of expansion, that meant that a school like Rutgers had enough of a presence in New York to force the local cable companies to carry the Big 10 Network. (Whether that was true was different story -- but that was the logic.)

I'm not sure what it means in the early 2020s, especially for a conference like the A-10. Loyola doesn't really have Chicago to offer, it has the Loyola fan base to offer. Many of them are in Chicago, but in terms of moving ESPN+ subscriptions, they could just as easily be located in Montana or Williamsburg.