(10-25-2021 12:25 PM)Cinciflame Wrote:  If all this is true I’m disgusted by Liberty leadership and a full review needs to be done. Liberty alumni and supporters have learned to let the truth come out b/c as this board shows, lots of people hate Liberty and several hit pieces have been put out there. I pray this report isn’t true, but it sounds factual. Anyone that covered this up or didn’t follow correct procedures should be terminated immediately.

You know people hate Liberty because of the scummy behavior hidden behind a holier than thou attitude.

(10-25-2021 11:57 AM)iStoopify Wrote:  I know this thread will get locked, but since I didn't get to comment on the other Liberty thread: what a garbage university. How anyone could send their kids their I'll never know. Imagine having a daughter go to this dump?

Those are the same people that just know that Trump, Giuliani, Bannon, Powell, Stone and Lindell are telling them the 100% truth that the 2020 election was stolen. Out of touch and delusional.

(10-25-2021 04:59 PM)cyc46 Wrote:  You know people hate Liberty because of the scummy behavior hidden behind a holier than thou attitude.

The same reason I dislike any institution like that which includes Notre Dame, Baylor, BYU, Oral Roberts, Bob Jones and any others I didn't include here. Everyone except for maybe Bob Jones isn't in your face about it like Liberty.

(10-25-2021 06:03 PM)HerdZoned Wrote:  

(10-25-2021 11:57 AM)iStoopify Wrote:  I know this thread will get locked, but since I didn't get to comment on the other Liberty thread: what a garbage university. How anyone could send their kids their I'll never know. Imagine having a daughter go to this dump?

Those are the same people that just know that Trump, Giuliani, Bannon, Powell, Stone and Lindell are telling them the 100% truth that the 2020 election was stolen. Out of touch and delusional.

(10-25-2021 04:59 PM)cyc46 Wrote:  You know people hate Liberty because of the scummy behavior hidden behind a holier than thou attitude.

The same reason I dislike any institution like that which includes Notre Dame, Baylor, BYU, Oral Roberts, Bob Jones and any others I didn't include here. Everyone except for maybe Bob Jones isn't in your face about it like Liberty.

Four cities determined the outcome of the election. Philadelphia, Atlanta, Milwaukee, and Detroit. People can look at the non-existent "popular" vote (it isn't a thing and has no bearing on anything) all they want, but that's the reality. Four cities.

Whether anything weird happened there or not was not proven. But you won't convince the people who believe that something did happen there otherwise. Will gas reaching $3.40 a gallon now and car prices at record highs, along with the consumer price index increase, and unemployment (voluntary or not), it's not going to matter what happened in 2020 come 2022.

People vote with their wallets. In 2020, they wanted another stimulus check, so they voted for it. In 2022, when those stimulus checks are out and people can't afford to drive to work any longer or buy groceries, they will go the other direction as well. Right, wrong, or indifferent, that's what's going to happen.

The reason most people here don't want Liberty is because they view them as "scummy" as you said, and don't view them as a legitimate academic institution due to their cash flows. They are a slush fund for the founding family, period. People don't take issue with BYU or Notre Dame, Progressives and the Anti-Liberal Left, but they dislike Liberty because it goes beyond religion to the people who were running the program directly until recently and who are now running it behind the scenes.

(10-25-2021 04:59 PM)cyc46 Wrote:  

(10-25-2021 12:25 PM)Cinciflame Wrote:  If all this is true I’m disgusted by Liberty leadership and a full review needs to be done. Liberty alumni and supporters have learned to let the truth come out b/c as this board shows, lots of people hate Liberty and several hit pieces have been put out there. I pray this report isn’t true, but it sounds factual. Anyone that covered this up or didn’t follow correct procedures should be terminated immediately.

You know people hate Liberty because of the scummy behavior hidden behind a holier than thou attitude.

I pray intentional prayers about things that matter, typically involving forgiveness. Praying that something from the past might or might not have happened seems ineffectual and genie-in-a-bottle-esque. Then again, I don't have an online divinity degree.

(10-25-2021 06:10 PM)ericsaid Wrote:  

(10-25-2021 06:03 PM)HerdZoned Wrote:  

(10-25-2021 11:57 AM)iStoopify Wrote:  I know this thread will get locked, but since I didn't get to comment on the other Liberty thread: what a garbage university. How anyone could send their kids their I'll never know. Imagine having a daughter go to this dump?

Those are the same people that just know that Trump, Giuliani, Bannon, Powell, Stone and Lindell are telling them the 100% truth that the 2020 election was stolen. Out of touch and delusional.

(10-25-2021 04:59 PM)cyc46 Wrote:  You know people hate Liberty because of the scummy behavior hidden behind a holier than thou attitude.

The same reason I dislike any institution like that which includes Notre Dame, Baylor, BYU, Oral Roberts, Bob Jones and any others I didn't include here. Everyone except for maybe Bob Jones isn't in your face about it like Liberty.

Four cities determined the outcome of the election. Philadelphia, Atlanta, Milwaukee, and Detroit. People can look at the non-existent "popular" vote (it isn't a thing and has no bearing on anything) all they want, but that's the reality. Four cities.

Whether anything weird happened there or not was not proven. But you won't convince the people who believe that something did happen there otherwise. Will gas reaching $3.40 a gallon now and car prices at record highs, along with the consumer price index increase, and unemployment (voluntary or not), it's not going to matter what happened in 2020 come 2022.

People vote with their wallets. In 2020, they wanted another stimulus check, so they voted for it. In 2022, when those stimulus checks are out and people can't afford to drive to work any longer or buy groceries, they will go the other direction as well. Right, wrong, or indifferent, that's what's going to happen.

The reason most people here don't want Liberty is because they view them as "scummy" as you said, and don't view them as a legitimate academic institution due to their cash flows. They are a slush fund for the founding family, period. People don't take issue with BYU or Notre Dame, Progressives and the Anti-Liberal Left, but they dislike Liberty because it goes beyond religion to the people who were running the program directly until recently and who are now running it behind the scenes.

(10-25-2021 06:03 PM)HerdZoned Wrote:  

(10-25-2021 11:57 AM)iStoopify Wrote:  I know this thread will get locked, but since I didn't get to comment on the other Liberty thread: what a garbage university. How anyone could send their kids their I'll never know. Imagine having a daughter go to this dump?

Those are the same people that just know that Trump, Giuliani, Bannon, Powell, Stone and Lindell are telling them the 100% truth that the 2020 election was stolen. Out of touch and delusional.

(10-25-2021 04:59 PM)cyc46 Wrote:  You know people hate Liberty because of the scummy behavior hidden behind a holier than thou attitude.

The same reason I dislike any institution like that which includes Notre Dame, Baylor, BYU, Oral Roberts, Bob Jones and any others I didn't include here. Everyone except for maybe Bob Jones isn't in your face about it like Liberty.

Bob Jones is pretty in your face about it... Liberty's original business model is actually modeled after Bob Jones

(10-22-2021 11:43 AM)cyc46 Wrote:  

(10-22-2021 11:40 AM)Curtisc83 Wrote:  

(10-22-2021 11:37 AM)ODU-Z8 Wrote:  

(10-22-2021 11:36 AM)Curtisc83 Wrote:  LU might join just because it is falling apart. That way we can have the autobid, FBS and the CFP stuff built in and then mold CUSA into what we want.

Stuff like that is exactly why conferences seemingly balk at LU

I'm not saying we would join just that if we did it might be because of those reasons. Just like buying a failing bank just because it has a federal bank charter.

If a conference ever takes Liberty they will rue the day they did so.

Kind of like trying to use the One Ring instead of destroying it. Seems like a good idea at first.

(10-25-2021 11:57 AM)iStoopify Wrote:  I know this thread will get locked, but since I didn't get to comment on the other Liberty thread: what a garbage university. How anyone could send their kids their I'll never know. Imagine having a daughter go to this dump?

Good Day Dr. Stoop: It's easy to make such a silly statement and run but you failed to tell us why Liberty is a garbage university. It's acredited by the same instiutions that others are and generally acclamed to be a good school. Would appreciate you telling us in detail why you think it belongs on the garbage heap. Look forward to your response.