(10-16-2021 07:00 PM)IslandHerd1 Wrote:  UAB fans mouthy these days, let’s not forget the assistance you were granted to remodel your program

I'll be happy to give you the same opportunity UAB had. All you have to do is close your program. Fire all of your coaches. Release all of your players, and have your coaches call all their friends trying to find a program for them to land at. Release all of your recruits from their commitment. Pay the buyout on all the future OOC games you've signed contracts for.

You are now free to take two years to hire a coaching staff, rebuild, and recruit players who won't be able to play in a game until three season from now.

Do all of that and the UAB fans will advocate for Marshall getting the same treatment UAB did. Good luck.

(10-16-2021 07:00 PM)IslandHerd1 Wrote:  UAB fans mouthy these days, let’s not forget the assistance you were granted to remodel your program

Ha! Sucks to suck, right? Whats going to be the excuse if we beat you guys in a few weeks?

(10-17-2021 12:22 AM)UAB Band Dad Wrote:  

(10-16-2021 07:00 PM)IslandHerd1 Wrote:  UAB fans mouthy these days, let’s not forget the assistance you were granted to remodel your program

I'll be happy to give you the same opportunity UAB had. All you have to do is close your program. Fire all of your coaches. Release all of your players, and have your coaches call all their friends trying to find a program for them to land at. Release all of your recruits from their commitment. Pay the buyout on all the future OOC games you've signed contracts for.

You are now free to take two years to hire a coaching staff, rebuild, and recruit players who won't be able to play in a game until three season from now.

Do all of that and the UAB fans will advocate for Marshall getting the same treatment UAB did. Good luck.

I still think Will Hall is a good hire for the Golden Eagles. Maybe a change of conference scenery would be positive for our old friends.

(10-16-2021 08:58 PM)TheChosenOne Wrote:  

(10-16-2021 08:23 PM)ICB Wrote:  

(10-16-2021 07:59 PM)Was SoMs Eagle Wrote:  

(10-16-2021 07:37 PM)ICB Wrote:  

(10-16-2021 07:00 PM)IslandHerd1 Wrote:  UAB fans mouthy these days, let’s not forget the assistance you were granted to remodel your program

Not one of those players are on the team. Not One. How many years will you all use that as the reason we are winning. When the program was shut down, most of you said that it would be YEARS before we recover even knowing how we were allowed to sign and eligibility freezes. Feel free to use the UAB model to remodel your program.

The UAB model is an interesting one. Keeping a good coach is a anomaly these days. Chances are good when he leaves you will not be quite as successful. Enjoy it.

BTW, if our program were winning and keeping our coach, I think we would be drawing a decent crowd. Not P5 level of course but way more than the typical CUSA schools. Don’t mention Bower. He was apathetic in the end. Unfortunately this clown show is hard to watch.

When we hired Coach Clark, we had NO FACILITIES, played in a run down stadium and had very little athletic support. Wouldn't you think that we are in a much better position to make a hire than we were then. Maybe, just maybe the next coaching search could attract even better candidates...?

As a Southern Miss fan I’ll answer. Absolutely!!! UAB has made significant strides improving the overall quality of its program. The ability to bring in a quality coach and staff has improved. But don’t pull a TTT. We can’t seem to hire and retain quality.

Congratulations on the win tonight. What isn’t being said here, UAB could have scored 60+ had it wanted. Good luck going forward.

what is TTT

Been following Southern Miss football since the Reggie Collier years. From 1980 to early 2000s or so, USM was the model program for doing more with less, and there wasn’t a better overall football program in the south outside of the SEC or ACC. USM was respected by opponents from those leagues and admired by many programs who wanted to duplicate their success. Competing against USM was competing to their standard.

And that really is the problem. Every school goes through ups and downs, wrong coaching hires, etc. USM has a systemic challenge though — increased competition in the recruiting territory where it made its rep.

Alabama — in the 1980s and 1990s, USM snagged almost every under the radar kid who didn’t end up in the SEC. Now UAB, Troy and South Alabama cut them off with better facilities and good coaches.

Louisiana — also prime territory. Back in the day, Louisiana Tech, Louisiana and ULM were not beating USM for many players. Now they do.

Georgia — Atlanta metro, South Georgia and Florida panhandle used to be very good to USM. Hello Georgia State and Georgia Southern.

When USM was building its rep and winning tradition, none of these schools were recruiting factors. USM could out-recruit Tulane, Memphis and Louisville there. There were not another dozen+ schools to beat for players.

Now not only do they have to outwork these schools that have better facilities in many cases, but they also have USF, USF, Coastal Carolina, MTSU coming into the footprint who were not FBS in USM’s glory days. And every southern non-P5 school recruits Mississippi because of the jucos.

USM held them off on winning tradition, but once that was gone, it’s much harder.

Just being honest, I do not recognize USM at all. Talent level is nowhere near as deep as it once was. Still a lot of good players but USM used to *look* the part of an SEC team. They don’t anymore. I think USM can return to its old self with the right coach, but it’s going to be harder to sustain it than it was to originally build it. There is so much more competition.

Totally respect USM and hope to see that once proud program competing for Championships again one day. DD has some great points above.

Boo hoo. Southern Miss has competition now, just like everyone else. You guys whine more than any other fanbase on this board. At least you guys have a decent history, even if it's ancient. There are schools doing much more with a lot less than you guys have.

(10-17-2021 08:46 AM)MT FAN Wrote:  Boo hoo. Southern Miss has competition now, just like everyone else. You guys whine more than any other fanbase on this board. At least you guys have a decent history, even if it's ancient. There are schools doing much more with a lot less than you guys have.

We aren’t looking for a boo hoo, at least majority are not. You are 100% correct, all of us are in the same boat as G5. Funny though, you speak of ancient history. 2015 to present our Win / Loss record is better than MT, and several others, yet even for fans outside of Southern Miss that is considered poor.

Our primary problem for not competing at a championship level is good coach retention. UAB is an example of how retaining a good coach can bring consistency to a program. Look at WKU. Had it retained just one of the several solid coaches it brought in they’d likely be making national headlines. MT is an example of what happens to a program failing to make needed change; stagnant.

“IF” Will Hall lives up to the billing and “IF” his recruits are what he claims we shall see success again in the near future. But again, lot of “ifs” built into formula.

Have no complaints about USMs game day. Y’all took care of me and my grandpa well yesterday. Maybe it was luck that we got carted to and from stadium with such distant parking, but things were made a lot easier on grandpa yesterday and he enjoyed the game. UAB and protective stadium(ramp on south side of stadium takes forever to get up.) could learn from that, have a dozen or 2 carts escorting folks in and around the stadium. We sat on the upper level on the press box side. $20 seats, breezy, and sun to our backs. Only way it could’ve gotten better, is if it was slightly warmer up there.

I’ll trade you our DJ for yours.

(10-16-2021 07:00 PM)IslandHerd1 Wrote:  UAB fans mouthy these days, let’s not forget the assistance you were granted to remodel your program

If you believe UAB was given some unfair advantage, I invite you to contact your school's administration and recommend the Ray Watts model.

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That UAB team coming back in 2015 was going to be fire. We had 3 bowl games stolen from us. 2 more fights for division and conference titles. The only competitive advantage we were given was that we were finally allowed to invest in our program. You try telling a bunch of JUCO and HS players that we want you to come practice for 2 years and see how many of them agree to it. That's just how special Bill Clark is. He was able to convince a bunch of football players that they wanted to play for him in the worst possible circumstances. And He was competitive coming out of the gate. He took a team with 1 fbs win in 2013 to a bowl eligible season in 2014 from the inside of a dentist office and a practice field that shouldn't have been allowed to be called football facilities.

So no, don't give us that competitive advantage BS. Bill Clark is our competitive advantage and if you for some reason think otherwise, you should try shutting down your program and see how it goes for you.

(10-17-2021 04:44 AM)UAB Schnauzer Wrote:  

(10-16-2021 08:58 PM)TheChosenOne Wrote:  

(10-16-2021 08:23 PM)ICB Wrote:  

(10-16-2021 07:59 PM)Was SoMs Eagle Wrote:  

(10-16-2021 07:37 PM)ICB Wrote:  Not one of those players are on the team. Not One. How many years will you all use that as the reason we are winning. When the program was shut down, most of you said that it would be YEARS before we recover even knowing how we were allowed to sign and eligibility freezes. Feel free to use the UAB model to remodel your program.

The UAB model is an interesting one. Keeping a good coach is a anomaly these days. Chances are good when he leaves you will not be quite as successful. Enjoy it.

BTW, if our program were winning and keeping our coach, I think we would be drawing a decent crowd. Not P5 level of course but way more than the typical CUSA schools. Don’t mention Bower. He was apathetic in the end. Unfortunately this clown show is hard to watch.

When we hired Coach Clark, we had NO FACILITIES, played in a run down stadium and had very little athletic support. Wouldn't you think that we are in a much better position to make a hire than we were then. Maybe, just maybe the next coaching search could attract even better candidates...?

As a Southern Miss fan I’ll answer. Absolutely!!! UAB has made significant strides improving the overall quality of its program. The ability to bring in a quality coach and staff has improved. But don’t pull a TTT. We can’t seem to hire and retain quality.

Congratulations on the win tonight. What isn’t being said here, UAB could have scored 60+ had it wanted. Good luck going forward.

what is TTT

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For those that may not know, don’t act like we haven’t gone through the same thing…except ours was far worse, so stop looking down your noses at us. We LOST players, coaches, and families…they didn’t just transfer out. Many kids lost both parents. We literally had to start from scratch. I don’t even want to hear it.

Sorry if I am a little hot about this. It’s a sensitive subject that affected me personally (I did not lose any loved ones, but some good friends of mine did).

I personally have zero problem with what the ncaa did for UAB and am grateful that you were able to come back and come back as strong as you did.

What happened to Marshall was a tragedy.

What happened to UAB was an outrage.

What happened to SMU, they deserved.

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(10-17-2021 11:59 AM)Smaug Wrote:  What happened to Marshall was a tragedy.

What happened to UAB was an outrage.

What happened to SMU, they deserved.

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Agree 100%

The Miami Hurricrooks should have gotten the death penalty also.

(10-17-2021 11:49 AM)THUNDERStruck73 Wrote:  For those that may not know, don’t act like we haven’t gone through the same thing…except ours was far worse, so stop looking down your noses at us. We LOST players, coaches, and families…they didn’t just transfer out. Many kids lost both parents. We literally had to start from scratch. I don’t even want to hear it.

Sorry if I am a little hot about this. It’s a sensitive subject that affected me personally (I did not lose any loved ones, but some good friends of mine did).

I personally have zero problem with what the ncaa did for UAB and am grateful that you were able to come back and come back as strong as you did.

I don't think the NCAA grants UAB the waivers we received if it wasn't for the Marshall tragedy. They decided that those waivers would help the program get back to normal quickly. It isn't a good thing to have a program struggle for a decade due to something that wasn't technically in our own control.

u/islandherd1 said something incredibly stupid. We know that he is the exception for the Marshall fanbase. Always had a lot of respect for your school and fans on here. We as UAB fans aren't going to let someone put the program down for what Bill Clark has been able to do here, especially something so blatantly false.

(10-17-2021 01:56 PM)Dracorex Wrote:  

(10-17-2021 11:49 AM)THUNDERStruck73 Wrote:  For those that may not know, don’t act like we haven’t gone through the same thing…except ours was far worse, so stop looking down your noses at us. We LOST players, coaches, and families…they didn’t just transfer out. Many kids lost both parents. We literally had to start from scratch. I don’t even want to hear it.

Sorry if I am a little hot about this. It’s a sensitive subject that affected me personally (I did not lose any loved ones, but some good friends of mine did).

I personally have zero problem with what the ncaa did for UAB and am grateful that you were able to come back and come back as strong as you did.

I don't think the NCAA grants UAB the waivers we received if it wasn't for the Marshall tragedy. They decided that those waivers would help the program get back to normal quickly. It isn't a good thing to have a program struggle for a decade due to something that wasn't technically in our own control.

u/islandherd1 said something incredibly stupid. We know that he is the exception for the Marshall fanbase. Always had a lot of respect for your school and fans on here. We as UAB fans aren't going to let someone put the program down for what Bill Clark has been able to do here, especially something so blatantly false.

Fair enough Dracorex. And I don’t blame you one bit for defending UAB.

UAB Coach Clark called the dogs off early in the third quarter. UAB much better than us and he knew it. We are easily the worst team in the league this year, and I never in my lifetime thought I would ever have to say that.

(10-17-2021 02:15 PM)nastybunch Wrote:  UAB Coach Clark called the dogs off early in the third quarter. UAB much better than us and he knew it. We are easily the worst team in the league this year, and I never in my lifetime thought I would ever have to say that.

He is that kind of coach. He finds no joy in piling on. You all have had some very unfortunate circumstances that very few could overcome.