(10-05-2021 10:41 AM)BirdofParadise Wrote:  

(10-05-2021 08:40 AM)APPdiesel Wrote:  You say competent. I say dragging his feet and letting a desperate Mike Aresco influence his next move.

Not hardly. AD's are currently meeting. They aren't talking about office decor.

SBC ADs are meeting? I assume in NOLA?

If AD's are meeting it is by way of computer

(10-05-2021 01:50 PM)Superanjario Wrote:  

(10-05-2021 01:38 PM)ericsaid Wrote:  

(10-05-2021 01:35 PM)Michael in Raleigh Wrote:  

(10-05-2021 01:33 PM)ericsaid Wrote:  

(10-05-2021 10:39 AM)herdfan129 Wrote:  This is what I'm hearing as well.

Sources?

I'll save you the time. He says he has contacts on the Marshall BOG.

So it's hearsay...

Great. No sources. At least by his definition of what a source is for others.

I'm fairly plugged in, and I highly doubt he's heard Marshall to the AAC from a member of the BOG. Frankly, I'd have heart it. If he has, that's significant, but things are EXTREMELY quiet at Marshall about conference affiliation.

I actually think Marshall is a better compromise candidate for the AAC than some others, but there's nothing concrete to indicate that we are as in play there as UAB.

Fan of coming to the Belt when and if the AAC tells us no. I can see the Belt being a better long-term landing spot due to stability, but the AAC's media exposure is too much to pass up in the short run.

Sure, there are three or four candidates that are good long-term adds for the streaming model. Then you have a few adds who really do nothing but lower the perception of the AAC as a whole. The additional cash will negate the need for pay games and their records will look decent leading to a continuation of the AAC perception.

(10-05-2021 02:11 PM)Michael in Raleigh Wrote:  

(10-05-2021 01:32 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(10-05-2021 01:25 PM)Michael in Raleigh Wrote:  

(10-05-2021 01:15 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(10-05-2021 10:41 AM)BirdofParadise Wrote:  Not hardly. AD's are currently meeting. They aren't talking about office decor.

I heard we were going to decorate the league headquarters in black and gold

Okay, are you poking fun at AppDiesel for complaining about Gill, or are you alluding to a certain black and gold school in the southern part of the Magnolia state coming to join the Funbelt?

Depends on what definition of a bird is

(UTSA) Roadrunner - Definitely a bird by all definitions. Not black and gold.

(North Texas) Mean Green - A color in honor of Steelers great Mean Joe Green. However, the helmet & logo is a falcon or eagle or something. Arguably a bird by some definitions. Not black and gold.

(Rice) Owls - Definitely a bird by all definitions. Not black and gold.

(Southern Miss) Eagles - Definitely a bird by all definitions. Black and gold.

(UAB) Blazers - Could be a bird if you you're imaginative since it has wings. Gold, but not black.

(FAU) Owls - See Rice.

That's pretty much it for any candidate who could remotely be interpreted as a bird.

You're as clear as mud, chiefsfan.

Lol. I was making a joke without realizing someone might think I was seriously leaking USM

(10-05-2021 04:23 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(10-05-2021 02:11 PM)Michael in Raleigh Wrote:  

(10-05-2021 01:32 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(10-05-2021 01:25 PM)Michael in Raleigh Wrote:  

(10-05-2021 01:15 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  I heard we were going to decorate the league headquarters in black and gold

Okay, are you poking fun at AppDiesel for complaining about Gill, or are you alluding to a certain black and gold school in the southern part of the Magnolia state coming to join the Funbelt?

Depends on what definition of a bird is

(UTSA) Roadrunner - Definitely a bird by all definitions. Not black and gold.

(North Texas) Mean Green - A color in honor of Steelers great Mean Joe Green. However, the helmet & logo is a falcon or eagle or something. Arguably a bird by some definitions. Not black and gold.

(Rice) Owls - Definitely a bird by all definitions. Not black and gold.

(Southern Miss) Eagles - Definitely a bird by all definitions. Black and gold.

(UAB) Blazers - Could be a bird if you you're imaginative since it has wings. Gold, but not black.

(FAU) Owls - See Rice.

That's pretty much it for any candidate who could remotely be interpreted as a bird.

You're as clear as mud, chiefsfan.

Lol. I was making a joke without realizing someone might think I was seriously leaking USM

Chiefsfan- You made a comment a couple of days ago regarding the fact that ULM would make a satisfactory/good travel partner for you in the future. Obviously, the implication was that LR would no longer be in the Sun Belt at some point. Do you believe that is the likely outcome of all this? Will the league do the "nudging" or do you think UTA and/or LR will chose to leave on their own? Will it depend if the league adds to 2 vs. 4 football members? Do you have any sources in Little Rock? I really haven't talked to anyone "in the know" in quite a while. I am very happy being in the Belt, but I guess change is always somewhat exciting.

(10-05-2021 04:35 PM)mjs Wrote:  Chiefsfan- You made a comment a couple of days ago regarding the fact that ULM would make a satisfactory/good travel partner for you in the future. Obviously, the implication was that LR would no longer be in the Sun Belt at some point. Do you believe that is the likely outcome of all this? Will the league do the "nudging" or do you think UTA and/or LR will chose to leave on their own? Will it depend if the league adds to 2 vs. 4 football members? Do you have any sources in Little Rock? I really haven't talked to anyone "in the know" in quite a while. I am very happy being in the Belt, but I guess change is always somewhat exciting.

My name is not chiefsfan, but I think the league has no business kicking out a member, so I don't think it will happen quite like that. There will be an "encouragement," but no forced disassociation.

The trouble is, where do the schools go? OVC would be terrible. Maybe Southland? WAC for UTA? Summit for either? It would be hard because I think the SB is the best choice of league for either school.

My guess is either Summit or SLC for LR and probably the WAC for UTA.

(10-05-2021 08:17 AM)Usajags Wrote:  

(10-05-2021 08:15 AM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(10-05-2021 12:14 AM)PureGold Wrote:  I'm tired of waiting...

Not our fault that We’re the only one who appears to have a competent commissioner in all of this

Who would have expected those words to be used to describe the SBC commissioner 6 months ago when we were all wondering if Gill was a real person since no one had ever seen him.

Just curious, do we spell “competent commissioner” E-S-P-N?

(10-05-2021 04:40 PM)Michael in Raleigh Wrote:  

(10-05-2021 04:35 PM)mjs Wrote:  Chiefsfan- You made a comment a couple of days ago regarding the fact that ULM would make a satisfactory/good travel partner for you in the future. Obviously, the implication was that LR would no longer be in the Sun Belt at some point. Do you believe that is the likely outcome of all this? Will the league do the "nudging" or do you think UTA and/or LR will chose to leave on their own? Will it depend if the league adds to 2 vs. 4 football members? Do you have any sources in Little Rock? I really haven't talked to anyone "in the know" in quite a while. I am very happy being in the Belt, but I guess change is always somewhat exciting.

My name is not chiefsfan, but I think the league has no business kicking out a member, so I don't think it will happen quite like that. There will be an "encouragement," but no forced disassociation.

The trouble is, where do the schools go? OVC would be terrible. Maybe Southland? WAC for UTA? Summit for either? It would be hard because I think the SB is the best choice of league for either school.

My guess is either Summit or SLC for LR and probably the WAC for UTA.

Little Rock is in violation of Sun Belt bylaws that require sponsoring a minimum number of league sports. If the Sun Belt wants Little Rock out, they’d have the grounds to push them out. The league wouldn’t want that publicity necessarily so it’d be a nudge for them to leave I’m sure. But if push came to shove…

(10-05-2021 04:35 PM)mjs Wrote:  

(10-05-2021 04:23 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(10-05-2021 02:11 PM)Michael in Raleigh Wrote:  

(10-05-2021 01:32 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(10-05-2021 01:25 PM)Michael in Raleigh Wrote:  Okay, are you poking fun at AppDiesel for complaining about Gill, or are you alluding to a certain black and gold school in the southern part of the Magnolia state coming to join the Funbelt?

Depends on what definition of a bird is

(UTSA) Roadrunner - Definitely a bird by all definitions. Not black and gold.

(North Texas) Mean Green - A color in honor of Steelers great Mean Joe Green. However, the helmet & logo is a falcon or eagle or something. Arguably a bird by some definitions. Not black and gold.

(Rice) Owls - Definitely a bird by all definitions. Not black and gold.

(Southern Miss) Eagles - Definitely a bird by all definitions. Black and gold.

(UAB) Blazers - Could be a bird if you you're imaginative since it has wings. Gold, but not black.

(FAU) Owls - See Rice.

That's pretty much it for any candidate who could remotely be interpreted as a bird.

You're as clear as mud, chiefsfan.

Lol. I was making a joke without realizing someone might think I was seriously leaking USM

Chiefsfan- You made a comment a couple of days ago regarding the fact that ULM would make a satisfactory/good travel partner for you in the future. Obviously, the implication was that LR would no longer be in the Sun Belt at some point. Do you believe that is the likely outcome of all this? Will the league do the "nudging" or do you think UTA and/or LR will chose to leave on their own? Will it depend if the league adds to 2 vs. 4 football members? Do you have any sources in Little Rock? I really haven't talked to anyone "in the know" in quite a while. I am very happy being in the Belt, but I guess change is always somewhat exciting.

We’re not kicking anyone out. However I think it’s been made very clear the SBC is going to focus on football moving forward

Here is what you need to know about Little Rock. The conference established membership standards requiring members to play 15 league sports.

Denver only played ten. UNO only had I think 8 post-Katrina (BOP probably remembers), LR played 15 all is good. .

Members were given five years to comply (June 30, 2013).

https://csnbbs.com/thread-299306-post-33...pid3319145

Denver and UNO left

Realignment leaves LR one sport short as Sun Belt drops swimming and diving as a sport dropping LR to 14 Sun Belt sports so they are granted a waiver.

Then come April 2013 LR operating under the waiver drops women’s tennis and is now at 13.

LR makes a handy trip when you go to AState and very accessible from ULM. No one is getting too worked up about it. Until March 2018. LR announces they are adding wrestling. Being two below the standard and then adding a new sport that the Sun Belt doesn’t sponsor changes the mood. Now there is less inclination to keep the waiver in place.

(10-05-2021 01:15 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  I heard we were going to decorate the league headquarters in black and gold

Well, it is inside the Superdome. No point in clashing with everything else inside the building.

(10-05-2021 01:35 PM)Michael in Raleigh Wrote:  

(10-05-2021 01:33 PM)ericsaid Wrote:  

(10-05-2021 10:39 AM)herdfan129 Wrote:  

(10-05-2021 08:59 AM)Pounce FTW Wrote:  

(10-05-2021 08:43 AM)ballantyneapp Wrote:  I wouldn't say dragging his feet. If Marshall is waiting to see if they make the AAC cut, Gill can't MAKE them accept an offer to the SBC. Its obvious hes been proactive, or at least seemed proactive, which is all we can ask.

Seems at this point that the AAC is probably Marshall's if they want it. And that decision keeps getting tougher and tougher...

This is what I'm hearing as well.

Sources?

I'll save you the time. He says he has contacts on the Marshall BOG.

That's not where I heard this from and I never claimed it was. You guys get so bent out of shape because I don't think we will move to the SBC.

(10-05-2021 07:02 PM)herdfan129 Wrote:  

(10-05-2021 01:35 PM)Michael in Raleigh Wrote:  

(10-05-2021 01:33 PM)ericsaid Wrote:  

(10-05-2021 10:39 AM)herdfan129 Wrote:  

(10-05-2021 08:59 AM)Pounce FTW Wrote:  Seems at this point that the AAC is probably Marshall's if they want it. And that decision keeps getting tougher and tougher...

This is what I'm hearing as well.

Sources?

I'll save you the time. He says he has contacts on the Marshall BOG.

That's not where I heard this from and I never claimed it was. You guys get so bent out of shape because I don't think we will move to the SBC.

I don’t think that anyone here is really bent out of shape about that.

I think all along the feeling here was if you wanna come, come on you’d be welcome. And if you don’t, we’ll that’s ok too.

(10-05-2021 07:05 PM)Bobcat87 Wrote:  

(10-05-2021 07:02 PM)herdfan129 Wrote:  

(10-05-2021 01:35 PM)Michael in Raleigh Wrote:  

(10-05-2021 01:33 PM)ericsaid Wrote:  

(10-05-2021 10:39 AM)herdfan129 Wrote:  This is what I'm hearing as well.

Sources?

I'll save you the time. He says he has contacts on the Marshall BOG.

That's not where I heard this from and I never claimed it was. You guys get so bent out of shape because I don't think we will move to the SBC.

I don’t think that anyone here is really bent out of shape about that.

I think all along the feeling here was if you wanna come, come on you’d be welcome. And if you don’t, we’ll that’s ok too.

I get that...and for the record, if we join then I will be all in on the Sun Belt. I can see the reasons as to why we would join and the reasons that the SBC would be a better long term fit for us. I'm not "dead set against" the SBC. I'm actually open to it. I just don't think it's any better than our current situation in terms of all sports. For the record, I don't think it's worse either. If we were to join the SBC then I think it would for the long term which isn't a bad thing either.

Having said all of that, I would be surprised if we joined the SBC and I would be absolutely shocked if we joined without at least one of WKU/ODU/FAU.

(10-05-2021 07:11 PM)herdfan129 Wrote:  

(10-05-2021 07:05 PM)Bobcat87 Wrote:  

(10-05-2021 07:02 PM)herdfan129 Wrote:  

(10-05-2021 01:35 PM)Michael in Raleigh Wrote:  

(10-05-2021 01:33 PM)ericsaid Wrote:  Sources?

I'll save you the time. He says he has contacts on the Marshall BOG.

That's not where I heard this from and I never claimed it was. You guys get so bent out of shape because I don't think we will move to the SBC.

I don’t think that anyone here is really bent out of shape about that.

I think all along the feeling here was if you wanna come, come on you’d be welcome. And if you don’t, we’ll that’s ok too.

I get that...and for the record, if we join then I will be all in on the Sun Belt. I can see the reasons as to why we would join and the reasons that the SBC would be a better long term fit for us. I'm not "dead set against" the SBC. I'm actually open to it. I just don't think it's any better than our current situation in terms of all sports. For the record, I don't think it's worse either. If we were to join the SBC then I think it would for the long term which isn't a bad thing either.

Having said all of that, I would be surprised if we joined the SBC and I would be absolutely shocked if we joined without at least one of WKU/ODU/FAU.

Personally I see the Sun Belt adding Marshall, WKU, USM and UTSA or UAB. I see schools like UTSA or UAB and Charlotte headed to the American.

(10-05-2021 02:54 PM)Tealblood Wrote:  If AD's are meeting it is by way of computer

I believe it is at least partially virtual.

(10-05-2021 05:16 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  Here is what you need to know about Little Rock. The conference established membership standards requiring members to play 15 league sports.

Denver only played ten. UNO only had I think 8 post-Katrina (BOP probably remembers), LR played 15 all is good. .

Members were given five years to comply (June 30, 2013).

https://csnbbs.com/thread-299306-post-33...pid3319145

Denver and UNO left

Realignment leaves LR one sport short as Sun Belt drops swimming and diving as a sport dropping LR to 14 Sun Belt sports so they are granted a waiver.

Then come April 2013 LR operating under the waiver drops women’s tennis and is now at 13.

LR makes a handy trip when you go to AState and very accessible from ULM. No one is getting too worked up about it. Until March 2018. LR announces they are adding wrestling. Being two below the standard and then adding a new sport that the Sun Belt doesn’t sponsor changes the mood. Now there is less inclination to keep the waiver in place.

I didn't realize it was 15 Sun Belt sports. So wrestling hurts more than helps. It was a strange add, other than a local booster put up the money for the wrestling facility and probably start-up costs. Not sure how it survives with a "handful" of fans showing up, although it has been a little hard to assess with the ongoing pandemic. Maybe it has a chance to grow with it being the only DI wrestling program in the State, but I wouldn't bet my money on it.

(10-05-2021 07:24 PM)AtlantaApp Wrote:  

(10-05-2021 07:11 PM)herdfan129 Wrote:  

(10-05-2021 07:05 PM)Bobcat87 Wrote:  

(10-05-2021 07:02 PM)herdfan129 Wrote:  

(10-05-2021 01:35 PM)Michael in Raleigh Wrote:  I'll save you the time. He says he has contacts on the Marshall BOG.

That's not where I heard this from and I never claimed it was. You guys get so bent out of shape because I don't think we will move to the SBC.

I don’t think that anyone here is really bent out of shape about that.

I think all along the feeling here was if you wanna come, come on you’d be welcome. And if you don’t, we’ll that’s ok too.

I get that...and for the record, if we join then I will be all in on the Sun Belt. I can see the reasons as to why we would join and the reasons that the SBC would be a better long term fit for us. I'm not "dead set against" the SBC. I'm actually open to it. I just don't think it's any better than our current situation in terms of all sports. For the record, I don't think it's worse either. If we were to join the SBC then I think it would for the long term which isn't a bad thing either.

Having said all of that, I would be surprised if we joined the SBC and I would be absolutely shocked if we joined without at least one of WKU/ODU/FAU.

Personally I see the Sun Belt adding Marshall, WKU, USM and UTSA or UAB. I see schools like UTSA or UAB and Charlotte headed to the American.

Why, from a Marshall perspective, would we leave CUSA East to join the SBC?

(10-05-2021 07:05 PM)Bobcat87 Wrote:  

(10-05-2021 07:02 PM)herdfan129 Wrote:  

(10-05-2021 01:35 PM)Michael in Raleigh Wrote:  

(10-05-2021 01:33 PM)ericsaid Wrote:  

(10-05-2021 10:39 AM)herdfan129 Wrote:  This is what I'm hearing as well.

Sources?

I'll save you the time. He says he has contacts on the Marshall BOG.

That's not where I heard this from and I never claimed it was. You guys get so bent out of shape because I don't think we will move to the SBC.

I don’t think that anyone here is really bent out of shape about that.

I think all along the feeling here was if you wanna come, come on you’d be welcome. And if you don’t, we’ll that’s ok too.

Absolutely. We are fine at 10, and if the right schools are interested then expand, but it’s not a pressing need.

(10-05-2021 07:02 PM)herdfan129 Wrote:  That's not where I heard this from and I never claimed it was. You guys get so bent out of shape because I don't think we will move to the SBC.

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