Since 2013 season the AAC has had 33 conference games with over 1 million viewers. I excluded games with UConn,Rutgers or Louisville.
1. USF vs UCF (2017) 4.7 m ABC
2. UCF vs Mem (2017) 3.385m ABC
3. UCF vs Mem (2018) 3.321m ABC
4. UCF vs UC (2018) 3.124m ABC
5. UH vs Mem (2016) 3.093m ABC
6. Navy vs UH (2015) 3.055m ABC
7. SMU- Mem (2019) 2.95m ABC
8. UC vs Mem (2019) 2.88m ABC
9. UC vs Mem (2019) 2.51m ABC
10.UH vs Tem (2015) 2.45m ABC
11.UH vs UC (2016) 2.159m ESPN
12. Tem vs Navy (2016) 2.050m ABC
13. UH vs USF (2018) 2.035m ABC
14. UCF vs Mem (2020) 1.90m ABC
15. UC vs Tulsa (2020) 1.88m ABC
16. UCF vs USF (2019) 1.76m ESPN
17. UCF vs USF (2018) 1.741m ESPN
18. UCF vs UC (2020) 1.55m ESPN
19. UCF vs UC (2019) 1.44m ESPN
20. UCF vs SMU (2013) 1.44m ESPN
21. UH vs UC (2020) 1.39m ESPN
22. Navy vs Tulane (2020) 1.35m ABC
23. UH vs UC (2014) 1.31m ESPN
24. USF vs Tem (2016) 1.3m ESPN
25. UC vs Mem (2015) 1.242m ESPN
26. UCF vs USF (2013) 1.22m ESPN
27. Mem vs Tulsa (2015) 1.216m ESPN
28. Tem vs UCF (2018) 1.191m ESPN
29. USF vs Tulsa (2018) 1.17m ESPN
30. USF vs UH (2013) 1.13m ESPN
31. Tem vs SMU (2015) 1.080m ESPN2
32. UCF vs ECU (2014) 1.04m ESPN
33. UH vs Tulane (2019) 1.03 ESPN

UCF 13
UC 10
UH 9
Memphis 9
USF 8
Temple 5
SMU 3
Navy 3
Tulsa 3
Tulane 2
ECU 1

Tulsa has 3. You missed them.

(09-22-2021 11:08 AM)oliveandblue Wrote:  Tulsa has 3. You missed them.

Thanks add it.

Temple turns out viewership when they’re actually performing well.

Pretty obvious why UCF, UC and UH got picked.

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(09-22-2021 11:06 AM)Cubanbull1 Wrote:  Since 2013 season the AAC has had 33 conference games with over 1 million viewers. I excluded games with UConn,Rutgers or Louisville.
1. USF vs UCF (2017) 4.7 m ABC
2. UCF vs Mem (2017) 3.385m ABC
3. UCF vs Mem (2018) 3.321m ABC
4. UCF vs UC (2018) 3.124m ABC
5. UH vs Mem (2016) 3.093m ABC
6. Navy vs UH (2015) 3.055m ABC
7. SMU- Mem (2019) 2.95m ABC
8. UC vs Mem (2019) 2.88m ABC
9. UC vs Mem (2019) 2.51m ABC
10.UH vs Tem (2015) 2.45m ABC
11.UH vs UC (2016) 2.159m ESPN
12. Tem vs Navy (2016) 2.050m ABC
13. UH vs USF (2018) 2.035m ABC
14. UCF vs Mem (2020) 1.90m ABC
15. UC vs Tulsa (2020) 1.88m ABC
16. UCF vs USF (2019) 1.76m ESPN
17. UCF vs USF (2018) 1.741m ESPN
18. UCF vs UC (2020) 1.55m ESPN
19. UCF vs UC (2019) 1.44m ESPN
20. UCF vs SMU (2013) 1.44m ESPN
21. UH vs UC (2020) 1.39m ESPN
22. Navy vs Tulane (2020) 1.35m ABC
23. UH vs UC (2014) 1.31m ESPN
24. USF vs Tem (2016) 1.3m ESPN
25. UC vs Mem (2015) 1.242m ESPN
26. UCF vs USF (2013) 1.22m ESPN
27. Mem vs Tulsa (2015) 1.216m ESPN
28. Tem vs UCF (2018) 1.191m ESPN
29. USF vs Tulsa (2018) 1.17m ESPN
30. USF vs UH (2013) 1.13m ESPN
31. Tem vs SMU (2015) 1.080m ESPN2
32. UCF vs ECU (2014) 1.04m ESPN
33. UH vs Tulane (2019) 1.03 ESPN

UCF 13
UC 10
UH 9
Memphis 9
USF 8
Temple 5
SMU 3
Navy 3
Tulsa 3
Tulane 2
ECU 1

If you did add 2013 when UL was a conf member of the AAC, the UCF at UL game on ESPN that Friday Night drew 2.2 Million viewers.

NOTE: A UCF conf game vs lowly Rutgers later that season on a Thursday Night on ESPN drew 972,000 viewers, just below 1 Million.

(09-22-2021 11:17 AM)Owls9878 Wrote:  Temple turns out viewership when they’re actually performing well.

Yes, unfortunately a lot of fair weather fans.

(09-22-2021 11:46 AM)KnightLight Wrote:  

(09-22-2021 11:06 AM)Cubanbull1 Wrote:  Since 2013 season the AAC has had 33 conference games with over 1 million viewers. I excluded games with UConn,Rutgers or Louisville.
1. USF vs UCF (2017) 4.7 m ABC
2. UCF vs Mem (2017) 3.385m ABC
3. UCF vs Mem (2018) 3.321m ABC
4. UCF vs UC (2018) 3.124m ABC
5. UH vs Mem (2016) 3.093m ABC
6. Navy vs UH (2015) 3.055m ABC
7. SMU- Mem (2019) 2.95m ABC
8. UC vs Mem (2019) 2.88m ABC
9. UC vs Mem (2019) 2.51m ABC
10.UH vs Tem (2015) 2.45m ABC
11.UH vs UC (2016) 2.159m ESPN
12. Tem vs Navy (2016) 2.050m ABC
13. UH vs USF (2018) 2.035m ABC
14. UCF vs Mem (2020) 1.90m ABC
15. UC vs Tulsa (2020) 1.88m ABC
16. UCF vs USF (2019) 1.76m ESPN
17. UCF vs USF (2018) 1.741m ESPN
18. UCF vs UC (2020) 1.55m ESPN
19. UCF vs UC (2019) 1.44m ESPN
20. UCF vs SMU (2013) 1.44m ESPN
21. UH vs UC (2020) 1.39m ESPN
22. Navy vs Tulane (2020) 1.35m ABC
23. UH vs UC (2014) 1.31m ESPN
24. USF vs Tem (2016) 1.3m ESPN
25. UC vs Mem (2015) 1.242m ESPN
26. UCF vs USF (2013) 1.22m ESPN
27. Mem vs Tulsa (2015) 1.216m ESPN
28. Tem vs UCF (2018) 1.191m ESPN
29. USF vs Tulsa (2018) 1.17m ESPN
30. USF vs UH (2013) 1.13m ESPN
31. Tem vs SMU (2015) 1.080m ESPN2
32. UCF vs ECU (2014) 1.04m ESPN
33. UH vs Tulane (2019) 1.03 ESPN

UCF 13
UC 10
UH 9
Memphis 9
USF 8
Temple 5
SMU 3
Navy 3
Tulsa 3
Tulane 2
ECU 1

If you did add 2013 when UL was a conf member of the AAC, the UCF at UL game on ESPN that Friday Night drew 2.2 Million viewers.

NOTE: A UCF conf game vs lowly Rutgers later that season on a Thursday Night on ESPN drew 972,000 viewers, just below 1 Million.

There were a few also like that but I did not include them for the reasons I stated at the top.
Temple vs USF (2017) 992k ESPN
UCF vs ECU ( 2020) 998k ABC
Louisville vs UConn in 2013 was over 1 million

(09-22-2021 11:06 AM)Cubanbull1 Wrote:  Since 2013 season the AAC has had 33 conference games with over 1 million viewers. I excluded games with UConn,Rutgers or Louisville.
1. USF vs UCF (2017) 4.7 m ABC
2. UCF vs Mem (2017) 3.385m ABC
3. UCF vs Mem (2018) 3.321m ABC
4. UCF vs UC (2018) 3.124m ABC
5. UH vs Mem (2016) 3.093m ABC
6. Navy vs UH (2015) 3.055m ABC
7. SMU- Mem (2019) 2.95m ABC
8. UC vs Mem (2019) 2.88m ABC
9. UC vs Mem (2019) 2.51m ABC
10.UH vs Tem (2015) 2.45m ABC
11.UH vs UC (2016) 2.159m ESPN
12. Tem vs Navy (2016) 2.050m ABC
13. UH vs USF (2018) 2.035m ABC
14. UCF vs Mem (2020) 1.90m ABC
15. UC vs Tulsa (2020) 1.88m ABC
16. UCF vs USF (2019) 1.76m ESPN
17. UCF vs USF (2018) 1.741m ESPN
18. UCF vs UC (2020) 1.55m ESPN
19. UCF vs UC (2019) 1.44m ESPN
20. UCF vs SMU (2013) 1.44m ESPN
21. UH vs UC (2020) 1.39m ESPN
22. Navy vs Tulane (2020) 1.35m ABC
23. UH vs UC (2014) 1.31m ESPN
24. USF vs Tem (2016) 1.3m ESPN
25. UC vs Mem (2015) 1.242m ESPN
26. UCF vs USF (2013) 1.22m ESPN
27. Mem vs Tulsa (2015) 1.216m ESPN
28. Tem vs UCF (2018) 1.191m ESPN
29. USF vs Tulsa (2018) 1.17m ESPN
30. USF vs UH (2013) 1.13m ESPN
31. Tem vs SMU (2015) 1.080m ESPN2
32. UCF vs ECU (2014) 1.04m ESPN
33. UH vs Tulane (2019) 1.03 ESPN

UCF 13
UC 10
UH 9
Memphis 9
USF 8
Temple 5
SMU 3
Navy 3
Tulsa 3
Tulane 2
ECU 1

And Memphis has 6 of the top 10.

(09-22-2021 11:20 AM)b2b Wrote:  Pretty obvious why UCF, UC and UH got picked.

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What’s not obvious is why Memphis didn’t get picked.

Not everyone was in this conference in 2013.

Taking out the 4 games listed from before 2015 and the numbers close up with little seperation.

Consistently top teams, few or no down years
UCF 10
UC 9
Memphis 9

Middle group, mostly up some down
Houston 7
USF 6
Temple 5

Variable, reflects some good and some bad years, inconsistency is the name of the game
Navy 3
Tulsa 3
SMU 2
Tulane 2

ECU 0 ~ product of a prolonged down period with no ups.


This reflects SLH analysis that it's less than 40% of value leaving, which makes me curious as to the actual pay outs the three leaving will get. It looks like it will be a Maryland/Rutgers deal if you go strictly on math

Three leaving =28 1m games
Top three remaining =20 1m games

Bottom 5 =10m

6 games are between the leaving teams exclusively.
7 games are between the remaining schools exclusively
21 are combination games with USF/Memphis dominating it for those left

(09-22-2021 02:06 PM)PrincetonTiger Wrote:  

(09-22-2021 11:20 AM)b2b Wrote:  Pretty obvious why UCF, UC and UH got picked.

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What’s not obvious is why Memphis didn’t get picked.

How about a poor academic profile, no on campus stadium for football or basketball and a history of cheating in basketball?

(09-22-2021 03:10 PM)b2b Wrote:  

(09-22-2021 02:06 PM)PrincetonTiger Wrote:  

(09-22-2021 11:20 AM)b2b Wrote:  Pretty obvious why UCF, UC and UH got picked.

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What’s not obvious is why Memphis didn’t get picked.

How about a poor academic profile, no on campus stadium for football or basketball and a history of cheating in basketball?

FedEX Forum is not on campus . However which AAC school has a superior venue ? I guess Memphis cheated . Too bad they don't run a clean program like Kentucky , North Carolina , Duke , Kansas , Arizona or LSU .

(09-22-2021 02:29 PM)Foreverandever Wrote:  Not everyone was in this conference in 2013.

Taking out the 4 games listed from before 2015 and the numbers close up with little seperation.

Consistently top teams, few or no down years
UCF 10
UC 9
Memphis 9

Middle group, mostly up some down
Houston 7
USF 6
Temple 5

Variable, reflects some good and some bad years, inconsistency is the name of the game
Navy 3
Tulsa 3
SMU 2
Tulane 2

ECU 0 ~ product of a prolonged down period with no ups.


This reflects SLH analysis that it's less than 40% of value leaving, which makes me curious as to the actual pay outs the three leaving will get. It looks like it will be a Maryland/Rutgers deal if you go strictly on math

Three leaving =28 1m games
Top three remaining =20 1m games

Bottom 5 =10m

6 games are between the leaving teams exclusively.
7 games are between the remaining schools exclusively
21 are combination games with USF/Memphis dominating it for those left

Navy's count in intraconference games also reflects that half their intraconference games are on non-Nielsen rated CBSSN. Last year saw the first time the Mouse got a NMCMS game (Tulsa-Navy got on ESPN2 and 424k viewers. Cincinnati at Navy will be on ABC/ESPN/ESPN2 23 October). 37.5% of Navy's intraconference games never get counted, even moving forward.

Consider how many of these are Conference Championship games and how many are just over-the-air tv.

Anyone with an antenna picks up abc and most basic cable packages get ESPN. Hell probably half a million sports bars and homes just have one or the other on in the background.

(09-22-2021 03:36 PM)First Family Forever Wrote:  

(09-22-2021 03:10 PM)b2b Wrote:  

(09-22-2021 02:06 PM)PrincetonTiger Wrote:  

(09-22-2021 11:20 AM)b2b Wrote:  Pretty obvious why UCF, UC and UH got picked.

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What’s not obvious is why Memphis didn’t get picked.

How about a poor academic profile, no on campus stadium for football or basketball and a history of cheating in basketball?

FedEX Forum is not on campus . However which AAC school has a superior venue ? I guess Memphis cheated . Too bad they don't run a clean program like Kentucky , North Carolina , Duke , Kansas , Arizona or LSU .

I do think a lack of investment in on-campus facilities hurt Memphis. I hope they make the investment before the next round of realignment occurs. I'd love to have you guys as conference mates in the B12.

(09-22-2021 06:01 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  

(09-22-2021 02:29 PM)Foreverandever Wrote:  Not everyone was in this conference in 2013.

Taking out the 4 games listed from before 2015 and the numbers close up with little seperation.

Consistently top teams, few or no down years
UCF 10
UC 9
Memphis 9

Middle group, mostly up some down
Houston 7
USF 6
Temple 5

Variable, reflects some good and some bad years, inconsistency is the name of the game
Navy 3
Tulsa 3
SMU 2
Tulane 2

ECU 0 ~ product of a prolonged down period with no ups.


This reflects SLH analysis that it's less than 40% of value leaving, which makes me curious as to the actual pay outs the three leaving will get. It looks like it will be a Maryland/Rutgers deal if you go strictly on math

Three leaving =28 1m games
Top three remaining =20 1m games

Bottom 5 =10m

6 games are between the leaving teams exclusively.
7 games are between the remaining schools exclusively
21 are combination games with USF/Memphis dominating it for those left

Navy's count in intraconference games also reflects that half their intraconference games are on non-Nielsen rated CBSSN. Last year saw the first time the Mouse got a NMCMS game (Tulsa-Navy got on ESPN2 and 424k viewers. Cincinnati at Navy will be on ABC/ESPN/ESPN2 23 October). 37.5% of Navy's intraconference games never get counted, even moving forward.

I was thinking about that. I would guess that would add another game to this list for you overall, maybe two with Navy having some solid home conference games (Tulsa in 2015 comes to mind) in your best performing years that were on CBSsports.

That 4.7 at the top is the highest rated G5vsG5 game ever. (Including Boise)

That 4.7 is why the Big 12 will be interested in USF.

A strong USF along with a strong UCF is valuable.

(09-22-2021 06:31 PM)Foreverandever Wrote:  

(09-22-2021 06:01 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  

(09-22-2021 02:29 PM)Foreverandever Wrote:  Not everyone was in this conference in 2013.

Taking out the 4 games listed from before 2015 and the numbers close up with little seperation.

Consistently top teams, few or no down years
UCF 10
UC 9
Memphis 9

Middle group, mostly up some down
Houston 7
USF 6
Temple 5

Variable, reflects some good and some bad years, inconsistency is the name of the game
Navy 3
Tulsa 3
SMU 2
Tulane 2

ECU 0 ~ product of a prolonged down period with no ups.


This reflects SLH analysis that it's less than 40% of value leaving, which makes me curious as to the actual pay outs the three leaving will get. It looks like it will be a Maryland/Rutgers deal if you go strictly on math

Three leaving =28 1m games
Top three remaining =20 1m games

Bottom 5 =10m

6 games are between the leaving teams exclusively.
7 games are between the remaining schools exclusively
21 are combination games with USF/Memphis dominating it for those left

Navy's count in intraconference games also reflects that half their intraconference games are on non-Nielsen rated CBSSN. Last year saw the first time the Mouse got a NMCMS game (Tulsa-Navy got on ESPN2 and 424k viewers. Cincinnati at Navy will be on ABC/ESPN/ESPN2 23 October). 37.5% of Navy's intraconference games never get counted, even moving forward.

I was thinking about that. I would guess that would add another game to this list for you overall, maybe two with Navy having some solid home conference games (Tulsa in 2015 comes to mind) in your best performing years that were on CBSsports.

Yeah - I wasn't trying to say it would leap up there. Houston at Navy in '16 (after the Coogs had beaten Oklahoma and were #5/#6 in polls) another possibility. Beat then-#25 SMU at home late in the year in our 11-2 2019 season. Those are all hypotheticals, I was making an observation on the exclusion of games regardless of W/L performance.

Crazy how bad administration decisions will kill a program's viability to the outside world. 2015 and before we were at the top of the conference in attendance, but we still do pretty well there.

Our TV viewership was good as anyone's in the league for example we beat Va Tech in 2014 while 2.6M viewers watched.

We just need to get football fixed and which we are then the eyeballs will return. Just terrible timing for the board of governors and administration to make some horrible personnel decisions.

We'll be back and I hope all the associate partners remember how much our association has helped them in the past. Probably not, but it's all good because I like the AAC and sticking to the Eastern Seaboard going to games. Go AAC!!