(09-24-2021 10:04 AM)Cubanbull1 Wrote:  

(09-24-2021 09:59 AM)knight_02 Wrote:  

(09-24-2021 09:11 AM)Cubanbull1 Wrote:  

(09-24-2021 08:47 AM)knight_02 Wrote:  

(09-21-2021 09:43 PM)mtmedlin Wrote:  Those numbers show USF is actually doing pretty well. I see a lot of posts questioning our value to the conference but all those numbers show that now USF is one of the most viewed.

How much of the UCF/USF viewership numbers are from the war on I4? The nation knows we hate each other. I mean even our conference mates enjoy how much we hate each other. You guys are the villains for sure. But it adds to the entertainment value.

Same could be said about UCF.

In my other thread I showed conference games with more than 1 million viewers. You can see that both UCF and USF have more games with more than 1 million viewers than the I4 matchups.

Winning has a lot to do with it. Our biggest I4 game ratings were when both teams were winning, when one or both weren’t 5hey weren’t so good.

So technically the more you win the better ratings you will get and the better networks and times you get.

Yep winning cures a lot. But a rivalry definitely heats up interest among casual fans of the sport. Obviously 2017 was the capstone game. If ESPN made a 30 for 30 about what has happened behind the scenes between our two programs the casual observer interest would sky rocket. Just because yall would be the Caroline Baskin doesn't mean it wouldn't be fun for the country. :)

So I guess that will make you all the Tiger King. LOL

Good one. I chuckled.

(09-23-2021 01:19 PM)Memphis Yankee Wrote:  

(09-21-2021 09:10 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  So....

The Realignment board "P5 Discussion" section had a thread on viewership team by team - tracking Total viewers, all games; average viewers per rated game all games; Conference-Inventory viewers by home games; and average viewers per rated conference inventory game (home games).

Early this summer, I got wahoowa's methodology to match it for AAC teams, and now I have finally done the work (I had the conference viewership for all games, conference inventory, and intra-conference, but had never broken it down team by team.

Here's what I posted there...
Edited 22 Sep to more clearly break out Wahoowa's four categories

2017-2020 Total viewership,regular season and CCGs, no bowls included in order of total viewers
Team....Total Vwrs......Games....Avg Vwrs per rated game
1 Navy ....44418000....21........2115143
2 UCF .....42128000....34........1239059
3 MEM.....34090000....27........1262593
4 CIN......28973000....22........1316955
5 HOU.....23395000....24........974792
6 USF......22472000....20........1123600
7 TULS....13141000....21........625762
8 SMU.....10659000....17........627000
9 TULA......7547000....13........580538
10 TEM......7057000....14........504071
11 ECU......3680000....10........368000

Average Viewers per rated game regular season and CCGs, no bowls included
1 Navy 2115143
2 Cincinnati 1316955
3 Memphis 1262593
4 UCF 1239059
5 USF 1123600
6 Houston 974792
7 SMU 627000
8 Tulsa 625762
9 Tulane 580538
10 Temple 504071
11 ECU 368000

2017-2020 Conference viewership, home games only, and %age
Team....Total Vwrs..........%age of conf viewers
1 MEM.....19166000......21.43%
2 UCF......16395000......18.33%
3 HOU.....12853000......14.37%
4 USF......11236000...,..12.56%
5 CIN........7719000.......8.63%
6 TULS......4642000.......5.19%
7 TULA......4452000.......4.98%
8 SMU.......3486000.......3.90%
9 ECU........3184000......3.56%
10 TEM......2563000.......2.87%
11 Navy......1574000.......1.76%

2017-2020 Conference inv avg per rated game viewership, home games only
1 Memphis 1369000
2 UCF 1171071
3 USF 936333
4 Houston 856867
5 Navy 787000
6 Cincinnati 771900
7 Tulane 742000
8 Tulsa 580250
9 ECU 454857
10 SMU 435750
11 Temple 366142



As I worked through the data, I was wondering about using home games for the conference viewership. Say Cincinnati stays undefeated this year and the 23 October game at Navy gets ABC at noon, and does a good number -- Navy would get the credit for that in this setup, rather than Cincinnati which is obviously the draw. CCGs get credited to both participants instead of to no one.
I did an excursion using all conference games in which a team is involved. The denominator changes, but here is the ranking giving both teams credit for intraconference games:
2017-2020 conference viewers, all games involved
Team......Total conference viewers Viewers...age
1 UCF.....35678000.................20.48
2 MEM....34090000.................19.56
3 USF......21518000.................12.35
4 CIN......21332000.................12.24
5 HOU.....16634000...................9.54
6 TULS.....10472000..................6.01
7 SMU........8647000..................4.96
8 NAVY.......7733000..................4.43
9 TULA.......6268000..................3.59
10 TEM.......5477000..................3.14
11 ECU.......3680000..................2.11

CCGs come back in UCF and USF move up for benefitting from all the War and I4 games instead of just half (and a few other big games for UCF).
Navy moves up, not because their away conference games in those four years were blockbusters, but just getting more than only the two 2020 games counted.

Then I did another excursion -- the 2018 Notre Dame at Navy game wasn't conference inventory, but the 2022, 2024, 2026, 2028, and 2030 ND at Navy games will be.
With that datapoint, Navy moves up to 4.4% of the conference viewership, from 11th to 8th for either home games only or all conference games in which a team is involved

Memphis needs to send this to the Big 12.

Send it to the SEC, a much better fit for Memphis, already scheduling a lot of their members and holding your own against them.

(09-21-2021 09:20 PM)pesik Wrote:  why wont anyone include the good Houston years in these tv comparisons lol

Wipe your tears with that Big 12 invite. The Greg Ward teams were special tho.

Listen to this selfish bastard from Cincinnati. It got about a minute into the video before I wanted to jump through the screen wanting to beat his ass.

Questions why we should be in the conference when Cincy had to wait 7 years to get into the Big 12? WTF? He said we should have to wait 7 more years and wait to see what the landscape looks like then. Memphis doesn't add anything to the conference. Maybe he should look at these viewership numbers and learn something compared to what his school brings to the table. Fkn POS.

edit: Says why should "we" have to share money with Memphis and Boise.

(09-24-2021 07:50 PM)Memphis Yankee Wrote:  Listen to this selfish bastard from Cincinnati. It got about a minute into the video before I wanted to jump through the screen wanting to beat his ass.

Questions why we should be in the conference when Cincy had to wait 7 years to get into the Big 12? WTF? He said we should have to wait 7 more years and wait to see what the landscape looks like then. Memphis doesn't add anything to the conference. Maybe he should look at these viewership numbers and learn something compared to what his school brings to the table. Fkn POS.

edit: Says why should "we" have to share money with Memphis and Boise.

Yeah...that guy's an asshat who doesn't understand what he's talking about. I'd be happy to have Memphis in a good conference with us for life, we've got way too much history to dump it, and I think we are FAR more alike than different in a lot of ways (plus, a trip to Beale Street every other year is NEVER a bad thing).