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I saw the replay now and I think 47 had already lunged and then another one of their guys pushed Ridder into his path.

But as it turned out, the top of his helmet hit Ridder right in the face mask. Sorry.

(09-20-2021 04:08 PM)Bearhawkeye Wrote:  

(09-20-2021 11:22 AM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  It’s been that way since Moses wore short pants.

You want some real fun, throw on some gear and go to a NFL road game. It’s like a Mad Max movie at a lot of stadiums for opposing fans.

Don't even have to be opposing fans when you live in Cleveland

Cleveland fans are the reason that stadiums switched to plastic beer bottles:

(09-20-2021 07:58 AM)OKIcat Wrote:  

(09-19-2021 04:08 PM)Bear Catlett Wrote:  

(09-19-2021 03:49 PM)doss2 Wrote:  

(09-19-2021 03:30 PM)Bear Catlett Wrote:  I went with my IU brother and his IU sons. They were civil but I could tell they were salivating at the thought of IU beating UC.

I said before the game that I thought we were better but I was afraid of that Cincinnati thing taking over and UC laying an egg. Through 1.25 quarters I looked to be accurate.

He said before the game that IU finally has a sold out stadium and a great atmosphere and it would be so IU football to blow it. He said he felt IU would play well but in the end do too many stupid things and let UC came back and win.

He nailed it.

I was at the opposite end as the UC fans. There were couple of packs of UC people near us. Much like the team, we were nearly overrun early but hung in there and were triumphant in the end. I found a rather high percentage of IU fans to be quite mouthy. I think they really thought they'd run us.

Bloomington is a podunk town that has no clue how to handle a large crowd. None. Their philosophy for heavy traffic and a large crowd is... huh ,what? They didnt do a thing to alleviate congestion. Nothing. They didnt even change their light patterns. So basically they just expected 50,000 fans to get out through literally one lane.

And then you had the 10 mile long line to make the right turn in Nashville.

Jeeminy.

Not true about doing nothing to expedite traffic leaving. I parked in a church near tennis courts and main IU parking lot. They ran both sides of street up to 46. Rt 46 west to Nashville was slow but being slow in a cool car after 6 hours in heat and sun was welcome.

So they let everybody out on a side street? Great.

46 was one lane from the stadium to the left turn on the main drag out of town. Then once out on main drag the light patterns stopped the 50,000 cars on the main drag every 30 seconds to let Ethel out of the Whole Foods parking lot. If I hadn't done some creative driving and pissing some people off I'd probably still be sitting there.

Bolded, yes that was the IU equivalent to Millville's only traffic light on the road trip to Miami OH; a MAJOR obstruction to traffic flow post-game and apparently neither university cares as I suspect it plays out each home game. What would it cost to manually manage the traffic light for one hour after a game; then switch to flashing red when traffic begins to ease?

And it’s not like Nashville, IN, wasn’t aware. On Friday, I’m walking down the street in Nashville and some police guy with a sheriff’s badge said he was getting ready to pick up the UC football team (whatever that means) who was staying at some hotel/resort nearby, I’m not sure where. There were no rooms available from there to B’ton. You’d think there would be some coordination.

That sure looked like textbook targeting to me.

Personally, I am a fan of progressive penalties as the season progresses.

1st Offense of the Season: Out of the game for 15 minutes game clock.
2nd Offense of the Season: Out of the game for 30 minutes game clock.
3rd Offense of the Season: Out of the game for 45 minutes game clock.
4th Offense of the Season: Out of the game for 60 minutes game clock.

Any more and out for the season.

Anything left over at the end of the game carries over to the next game.

(09-20-2021 04:02 PM)Edgebrookjeff Wrote:  Everything that I've read on the IU message boards talks about the phantom targeting call. It's pretty evident that the players helmet contacted Ridder and it seems that he launched into him. I don't know about intent, but that should not be looked at. I'm guessing that this was their first time that a player from IU has been called for it and kicked out of the game. It's unfortunate, but so was the targeting call in the bowl game where Hudson was ejected. Many have said there should be different degrees of targeting, but then you're asking the refs to judge intent. Obviously, it had an effect on the outcome of the game, but I think the offense was sent back on the field without really looking at what had just happened and just played it like they had been given a second chance.

The rules do not consider intent what is in a persons mind.

(09-20-2021 04:55 PM)Edgebrookjeff Wrote:  I didn't think Hudson had intent in the bowl game either, but his helmet did hit the defensive player, so it was obvious targeting. Anyone looking at it objectively would agree. It's unfortunate, but everyone goes in knowing that if you do it, you get ejected for it.

And that likely cost us the game. It cuts both ways.

(09-20-2021 05:09 PM)Captain Bearcat Wrote:  

(09-20-2021 04:08 PM)Bearhawkeye Wrote:  

(09-20-2021 11:22 AM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  It’s been that way since Moses wore short pants.

You want some real fun, throw on some gear and go to a NFL road game. It’s like a Mad Max movie at a lot of stadiums for opposing fans.

Don't even have to be opposing fans when you live in Cleveland

Cleveland fans are the reason that stadiums switched to plastic beer bottles:

We live in Cincinnati we do not live in Cleveland.

(09-20-2021 05:24 PM)Bruce Monnin Wrote:  That sure looked like textbook targeting to me.

Personally, I am a fan of progressive penalties as the season progresses.

1st Offense of the Season: Out of the game for 15 minutes game clock.
2nd Offense of the Season: Out of the game for 30 minutes game clock.
3rd Offense of the Season: Out of the game for 45 minutes game clock.
4th Offense of the Season: Out of the game for 60 minutes game clock.

Any more and out for the season.

Anything left over at the end of the game carries over to the next game.

Sounds like kickball process.

One more time...

Big Fick is the best...

Driving in from north of Dayton…
We left at 0700hrs and had no problems on I-70 even though it has a lot of construction going on.

Martinsville was a nightmare.

Pulled in to IU lot #12 at 1100hrs - the 3hr drive took 4hrs

No issues walking in to the stadium.

We were in section 29, handicapped seating for my father in a scooter.

Before the start I got in line to buy waters and food because I knew I wouldn’t want to miss a large part of the game waiting in line once the game started.

In line I talked with a group of recent IU grads and they were extremely nice. Neither they or I was over the top about our teams. Both of us were hopeful but certainly not talking trash.

We bonded on our shared hatred of o$u (I was in my bUCkeye state shirt).
I had numerous IU fans approach me throughout the day asking what the shirt meant.

As we stood in line having a very friendly conversation, a younger male IU student walked through the line, high fived the guys I was talking to, turned to me and said “are you ready to get your azz beat, mf’er?”.
I was caught off guard, and giving him the benefit of the doubt that he was being playfully sarcastic, I said “what” in an incredulous manner.
In a split second he got dead serious, grabbed his crotch and said “eat this big D, azzhole”. I had a moment of “wtf is happening?”, and almost immediately the IU guys I was talking to grabbed him and threw him aside and told him to “get the eff out of here with that and keep moving”.

They looked at me and said “don’t worry we got your back”.
Then they said win or loose after the game I better meet them at some local bar (Royce or something?, I can’t remember) and they were buying.
(I wish I could have joined them, but with my 89 year old father and a 4hr drive home, I knew that wasn’t happening).

At our seats, I made fast friends with the IU people around me. Everyone was having fun and playfully giving and taking razzing.

I did have a drunk 30yr old unshaven shabby looking chubs behind me keep yelling “let’s effing go!” And “eff you UC” the entire first half.

Chubs ended up talking (respectfully) with my father. I guess I have that look of someone who is open to trash-talking or something, cause chubs went back and forth with me (he started it), but was calm and deferential with my father

At the half, and during the 4th quarter, my father wanted to stand in the shade in tunnel from the stands to the concessions. He had a cane, and was shaky due to weak legs. Both times, while I had his arm to support him as he walked to the tunnel, IU fans were immediately there on the other arm offering help.

Funny story, after the game my father tells me that while he was in the tunnel during the 4th quarter he was talking to a guy in UC gear that told him that his son was on the basketball team. Said the guy’s name was Saunders.
So I guess my father was talking with Mike Sauners father.

When UC intercepted to end the game, and it looked like it was run back for a TD, the surge to the exits by the IU fans was nuts!
I ran over to my father in the tunnel because I was worried he would get trampled like a Who concert in Cincinnati!

We took our time getting back to the car, probably 30 minutes after the game was over. Leaving Bloomington wasn’t bad, but Martinsville was a nightmare again. The 3hr drive home took about 3hrs 45 minutes.

All in all it was a great trip. The heat and sun made it tough.
Aside from one idiot, we didn’t have much trouble with IU fans, and I had a blast with numerous friendly IU fans.

(09-20-2021 08:31 PM)UCGrad1992 Wrote:  One more time...

Once he got into the open field he was by those guys like they were standing still. Blazing speed.

(09-20-2021 10:14 PM)namrag Wrote:  Driving in from north of Dayton…
We left at 0700hrs and had no problems on I-70 even though it has a lot of construction going on.

Martinsville was a nightmare.

Pulled in to IU lot #12 at 1100hrs - the 3hr drive took 4hrs

No issues walking in to the stadium.

We were in section 29, handicapped seating for my father in a scooter.

Before the start I got in line to buy waters and food because I knew I wouldn’t want to miss a large part of the game waiting in line once the game started.

In line I talked with a group of recent IU grads and they were extremely nice. Neither they or I was over the top about our teams. Both of us were hopeful but certainly not talking trash.

We bonded on our shared hatred of o$u (I was in my bUCkeye state shirt).
I had numerous IU fans approach me throughout the day asking what the shirt meant.

As we stood in line having a very friendly conversation, a younger male IU student walked through the line, high fived the guys I was talking to, turned to me and said “are you ready to get your azz beat, mf’er?”.
I was caught off guard, and giving him the benefit of the doubt that he was being playfully sarcastic, I said “what” in an incredulous manner.
In a split second he got dead serious, grabbed his crotch and said “eat this big D, azzhole”. I had a moment of “wtf is happening?”, and almost immediately the IU guys I was talking to grabbed him and threw him aside and told him to “get the eff out of here with that and keep moving”.

They looked at me and said “don’t worry we got your back”.
Then they said win or loose after the game I better meet them at some local bar (Royce or something?, I can’t remember) and they were buying.
(I wish I could have joined them, but with my 89 year old father and a 4hr drive home, I knew that wasn’t happening).

At our seats, I made fast friends with the IU people around me. Everyone was having fun and playfully giving and taking razzing.

I did have a drunk 30yr old unshaven shabby looking chubs behind me keep yelling “let’s effing go!” And “eff you UC” the entire first half.

Chubs ended up talking (respectfully) with my father. I guess I have that look of someone who is open to trash-talking or something, cause chubs went back and forth with me (he started it), but was calm and deferential with my father

At the half, and during the 4th quarter, my father wanted to stand in the shade in tunnel from the stands to the concessions. He had a cane, and was shaky due to weak legs. Both times, while I had his arm to support him as he walked to the tunnel, IU fans were immediately there on the other arm offering help.

Funny story, after the game my father tells me that while he was in the tunnel during the 4th quarter he was talking to a guy in UC gear that told him that his son was on the basketball team. Said the guy’s name was Saunders.
So I guess my father was talking with Mike Sauners father.

When UC intercepted to end the game, and it looked like it was run back for a TD, the surge to the exits by the IU fans was nuts!
I ran over to my father in the tunnel because I was worried he would get trampled like a Who concert in Cincinnati!

We took our time getting back to the car, probably 30 minutes after the game was over. Leaving Bloomington wasn’t bad, but Martinsville was a nightmare again. The 3hr drive home took about 3hrs 45 minutes.

All in all it was a great trip. The heat and sun made it tough.
Aside from one idiot, we didn’t have much trouble with IU fans, and I had a blast with numerous friendly IU fans.

A lot of the experience is determined by where you were located. i just happened to be waiting for a shuttle a block or two from Kilroy’s, on the drunken road path to the stadium. Then there was a student section right next to our seats.

I guess I’ve been blessed for not having to deal with any of this until now. Completely foreign to me.

You’d think UC upset Indiana.

https://247sports.com/college/ohio-state...71342553_1

(09-21-2021 02:10 AM)back2vinyl Wrote:  You’d think UC upset Indiana.

https://247sports.com/college/ohio-state...71342553_1

There was a lot of speaking out of both sides of their collective mouths. Leading into the game, the narrative was Cincy is a good g5, can they keep up with a big ten p5? Now that we beat them, the narrative "Yeah they won, but we were without Micah McFadden, OUR CAPTAIN AND ALL AMERICAN. We were controlling them until Micah got kicked out for a BS targeting call." Obviously, McFadden getting ejected impacted the game for both teams in the moment; however, it's going to affect us far more than them long term. This W now has an asterisk in the eyes of those who are or want to be critical of Cincy in a year where we needed everything that we control to fall into place.

(09-20-2021 10:14 PM)namrag Wrote:  Driving in from north of Dayton…
We left at 0700hrs and had no problems on I-70 even though it has a lot of construction going on.

Martinsville was a nightmare.

Pulled in to IU lot #12 at 1100hrs - the 3hr drive took 4hrs

No issues walking in to the stadium.

We were in section 29, handicapped seating for my father in a scooter.

Before the start I got in line to buy waters and food because I knew I wouldn’t want to miss a large part of the game waiting in line once the game started.

In line I talked with a group of recent IU grads and they were extremely nice. Neither they or I was over the top about our teams. Both of us were hopeful but certainly not talking trash.

We bonded on our shared hatred of o$u (I was in my bUCkeye state shirt).
I had numerous IU fans approach me throughout the day asking what the shirt meant.

As we stood in line having a very friendly conversation, a younger male IU student walked through the line, high fived the guys I was talking to, turned to me and said “are you ready to get your azz beat, mf’er?”.
I was caught off guard, and giving him the benefit of the doubt that he was being playfully sarcastic, I said “what” in an incredulous manner.
In a split second he got dead serious, grabbed his crotch and said “eat this big D, azzhole”. I had a moment of “wtf is happening?”, and almost immediately the IU guys I was talking to grabbed him and threw him aside and told him to “get the eff out of here with that and keep moving”.

They looked at me and said “don’t worry we got your back”.
Then they said win or loose after the game I better meet them at some local bar (Royce or something?, I can’t remember) and they were buying.
(I wish I could have joined them, but with my 89 year old father and a 4hr drive home, I knew that wasn’t happening).

At our seats, I made fast friends with the IU people around me. Everyone was having fun and playfully giving and taking razzing.

I did have a drunk 30yr old unshaven shabby looking chubs behind me keep yelling “let’s effing go!” And “eff you UC” the entire first half.

Chubs ended up talking (respectfully) with my father. I guess I have that look of someone who is open to trash-talking or something, cause chubs went back and forth with me (he started it), but was calm and deferential with my father

At the half, and during the 4th quarter, my father wanted to stand in the shade in tunnel from the stands to the concessions. He had a cane, and was shaky due to weak legs. Both times, while I had his arm to support him as he walked to the tunnel, IU fans were immediately there on the other arm offering help.

Funny story, after the game my father tells me that while he was in the tunnel during the 4th quarter he was talking to a guy in UC gear that told him that his son was on the basketball team. Said the guy’s name was Saunders.
So I guess my father was talking with Mike Sauners father.

When UC intercepted to end the game, and it looked like it was run back for a TD, the surge to the exits by the IU fans was nuts!
I ran over to my father in the tunnel because I was worried he would get trampled like a Who concert in Cincinnati!

We took our time getting back to the car, probably 30 minutes after the game was over. Leaving Bloomington wasn’t bad, but Martinsville was a nightmare again. The 3hr drive home took about 3hrs 45 minutes.

All in all it was a great trip. The heat and sun made it tough.
Aside from one idiot, we didn’t have much trouble with IU fans, and I had a blast with numerous friendly IU fans.

That's pretty much the scenario where I encountered most of the idiots that I saw... standing in the concession line before the game ever started with a bunch of cocky little punks passing through the lines.

They took their little shots at you and kept walking. You know, tough guys.

(09-20-2021 10:42 PM)Bearcatbdub Wrote:  

(09-20-2021 08:31 PM)UCGrad1992 Wrote:  One more time...

Once he got into the open field he was by those guys like they were standing still. Blazing speed.

I think that Kickoff return for the TD was one of the most impressive returns I have ever witnessed. His speed through that hole was simply amazing. And they say that he may be the second or third fastest on the team.

(09-21-2021 04:27 AM)eroc Wrote:  

(09-21-2021 02:10 AM)back2vinyl Wrote:  You’d think UC upset Indiana.

https://247sports.com/college/ohio-state...71342553_1

There was a lot of speaking out of both sides of their collective mouths. Leading into the game, the narrative was Cincy is a good g5, can they keep up with a big ten p5? Now that we beat them, the narrative "Yeah they won, but we were without Micah McFadden, OUR CAPTAIN AND ALL AMERICAN. We were controlling them until Micah got kicked out for a BS targeting call." Obviously, McFadden getting ejected impacted the game for both teams in the moment; however, it's going to affect us far more than them long term. This W now has an asterisk in the eyes of those who are or want to be critical of Cincy in a year where we needed everything that we control to fall into place.

Bolded, opposing fans will always find something to denigrate the winning team. If McFadden had played the entire game and UC won, they would suggest UC couldn't play P5 teams every week and do what they did. They can complain as much as they want but the officials made the call and it stood. Our receivers were held on several key plays with no calls either. It's a losers' lament.

(09-21-2021 07:01 AM)OKIcat Wrote:  

(09-21-2021 04:27 AM)eroc Wrote:  

(09-21-2021 02:10 AM)back2vinyl Wrote:  You’d think UC upset Indiana.

https://247sports.com/college/ohio-state...71342553_1

There was a lot of speaking out of both sides of their collective mouths. Leading into the game, the narrative was Cincy is a good g5, can they keep up with a big ten p5? Now that we beat them, the narrative "Yeah they won, but we were without Micah McFadden, OUR CAPTAIN AND ALL AMERICAN. We were controlling them until Micah got kicked out for a BS targeting call." Obviously, McFadden getting ejected impacted the game for both teams in the moment; however, it's going to affect us far more than them long term. This W now has an asterisk in the eyes of those who are or want to be critical of Cincy in a year where we needed everything that we control to fall into place.

Bolded, opposing fans will always find something to denigrate the winning team. If McFadden had played the entire game and UC won, they would suggest UC couldn't play P5 teams every week and do what they did. They can complain as much as they want but the officials made the call and it stood. Our receivers were held on several key plays with no calls either. It's a losers' lament.

This X 1,000......the only thing that matters are the W's and the L's, the what ifs are for the losing side.....Our crew had a great trip to Bloomington. Indiana fans were fine. It's better to have a little smack talked at you, than to be ignored. Shows you have their attention. Would you as a UC fan talk crap with a Murray State fan, or Toledo, or Bowling Green? Nah, you don't see them as worthy. Now hows about Kentucky, UofL, WVU, or Pitt? Half the fun of roadies is dealing with opposing fans, seeing how the other half lives.

my buddies' folks own property out near oldenburg and that's where i was on saturday. i wanted to watch the game at the village pub but that never materialized. that pub is the geographical center of bloomington and cincinnati. that woulda been kinda cool