(11-09-2021 06:47 PM)BSU75David Wrote:  Here is a way to help make things happen - All the schools wanting out of CUSA should vote to dissolve the conference and the vote should be 11-3 to dissolve. This eliminates the need for an exit fee. After that is done, give the rights to the name to those three remaking conference schools. Problem solved - seems pretty easy and fair to me.

The way the Big12 conference by-laws were set up, schools that had announced they were leaving lost their vote on issues like that ... if it is the same in CUSA, then that is a vote 2-3 to dissolve, and the exit fee stays.

(11-08-2021 04:47 PM)Kit-Cat Wrote:  I'm not sure why the MAC can't sub in a Illinois school at this point.

SIU is only 217 miles from Bowling Green, Kentucky. They would make for a nice substitution.

I 'm not sure you even know who is in the MAC.

Bowling Green State is in Bowling Green Ohio, not Kentucky. It's about 10 miles south or Toledo and no more than half an hour from Cleveland's outskirts and the Michigan border.

(11-13-2021 03:41 PM)Stugray2 Wrote:  

(11-08-2021 04:47 PM)Kit-Cat Wrote:  I'm not sure why the MAC can't sub in a Illinois school at this point.

SIU is only 217 miles from Bowling Green, Kentucky. They would make for a nice substitution.

I 'm not sure you even know who is in the MAC.

Bowling Green State is in Bowling Green Ohio, not Kentucky. It's about 10 miles south or Toledo and no more than half an hour from Cleveland's outskirts and the Michigan border.

This is considering WKU as a done deal to the MAC so distance to Bowling Green, KY would be relevant.

Why do people keep bringing up Missouri St? From what I see they haven’t been to NCAA Tournament since 1999 and have only won the MVC once in 1992. They've made the FCS playoffs once in last 30 years.

(11-13-2021 08:41 PM)epasnoopy Wrote:  Why do people keep bringing up Missouri St? From what I see they haven’t been to NCAA Tournament since 1999 and have only won the MVC once in 1992. They've made the FCS playoffs once in last 30 years.

It's the flagship-like name and the fact that it is in a neighboring state. Some do not realize that the former Southwest Missouri State is more than a seven-hour drive from the nearest MAC school.

(11-14-2021 11:14 AM)Schadenfreude Wrote:  

(11-13-2021 08:41 PM)epasnoopy Wrote:  Why do people keep bringing up Missouri St? From what I see they haven’t been to NCAA Tournament since 1999 and have only won the MVC once in 1992. They've made the FCS playoffs once in last 30 years.

It's the flagship-like name and the fact that it is in a neighboring state. Some do not realize that the former Southwest Missouri State is more than a seven-hour drive from the nearest MAC school.

Which is why the flagship like name Illinois St will be the first MVC school the MAC looks into, makes 10X more sense for a regional conference like the MAC.

(11-14-2021 07:33 PM)Illini1968 Wrote:  

(11-14-2021 11:14 AM)Schadenfreude Wrote:  

(11-13-2021 08:41 PM)epasnoopy Wrote:  Why do people keep bringing up Missouri St? From what I see they haven’t been to NCAA Tournament since 1999 and have only won the MVC once in 1992. They've made the FCS playoffs once in last 30 years.

It's the flagship-like name and the fact that it is in a neighboring state. Some do not realize that the former Southwest Missouri State is more than a seven-hour drive from the nearest MAC school.

Which is why the flagship like name Illinois St will be the first MVC school the MAC looks into, makes 10X more sense for a regional conference like the MAC.

Too bad Illinois State is average at sports or they might get a look. It's a basketball school and they havent made the Tourney since 98. No thanks.

(11-14-2021 09:10 PM)prairiedawg Wrote:  

(11-14-2021 07:33 PM)Illini1968 Wrote:  

(11-14-2021 11:14 AM)Schadenfreude Wrote:  

(11-13-2021 08:41 PM)epasnoopy Wrote:  Why do people keep bringing up Missouri St? From what I see they haven’t been to NCAA Tournament since 1999 and have only won the MVC once in 1992. They've made the FCS playoffs once in last 30 years.

It's the flagship-like name and the fact that it is in a neighboring state. Some do not realize that the former Southwest Missouri State is more than a seven-hour drive from the nearest MAC school.

Which is why the flagship like name Illinois St will be the first MVC school the MAC looks into, makes 10X more sense for a regional conference like the MAC.

Too bad Illinois State is average at sports or they might get a look. It's a basketball school and they havent made the Tourney since 98. No thanks.

Guys get a room, or better yet go use the NIU room already set up for this.

(11-14-2021 09:18 PM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  

(11-14-2021 09:10 PM)prairiedawg Wrote:  

(11-14-2021 07:33 PM)Illini1968 Wrote:  

(11-14-2021 11:14 AM)Schadenfreude Wrote:  

(11-13-2021 08:41 PM)epasnoopy Wrote:  Why do people keep bringing up Missouri St? From what I see they haven’t been to NCAA Tournament since 1999 and have only won the MVC once in 1992. They've made the FCS playoffs once in last 30 years.

It's the flagship-like name and the fact that it is in a neighboring state. Some do not realize that the former Southwest Missouri State is more than a seven-hour drive from the nearest MAC school.

Which is why the flagship like name Illinois St will be the first MVC school the MAC looks into, makes 10X more sense for a regional conference like the MAC.

Too bad Illinois State is average at sports or they might get a look. It's a basketball school and they havent made the Tourney since 98. No thanks.

Guys get a room, or better yet go use the NIU room already set up for this.

Sorry Dad

(11-14-2021 09:10 PM)prairiedawg Wrote:  

(11-14-2021 07:33 PM)Illini1968 Wrote:  

(11-14-2021 11:14 AM)Schadenfreude Wrote:  

(11-13-2021 08:41 PM)epasnoopy Wrote:  Why do people keep bringing up Missouri St? From what I see they haven’t been to NCAA Tournament since 1999 and have only won the MVC once in 1992. They've made the FCS playoffs once in last 30 years.

It's the flagship-like name and the fact that it is in a neighboring state. Some do not realize that the former Southwest Missouri State is more than a seven-hour drive from the nearest MAC school.

Which is why the flagship like name Illinois St will be the first MVC school the MAC looks into, makes 10X more sense for a regional conference like the MAC.

Too bad Illinois State is average at sports or they might get a look. It's a basketball school and they havent made the Tourney since 98. No thanks.

If they were in the MAC they would have made the field a few times when they won the conference.

(11-15-2021 10:31 AM)Illini1968 Wrote:  

(11-14-2021 09:10 PM)prairiedawg Wrote:  

(11-14-2021 07:33 PM)Illini1968 Wrote:  

(11-14-2021 11:14 AM)Schadenfreude Wrote:  

(11-13-2021 08:41 PM)epasnoopy Wrote:  Why do people keep bringing up Missouri St? From what I see they haven’t been to NCAA Tournament since 1999 and have only won the MVC once in 1992. They've made the FCS playoffs once in last 30 years.

It's the flagship-like name and the fact that it is in a neighboring state. Some do not realize that the former Southwest Missouri State is more than a seven-hour drive from the nearest MAC school.

Which is why the flagship like name Illinois St will be the first MVC school the MAC looks into, makes 10X more sense for a regional conference like the MAC.

Too bad Illinois State is average at sports or they might get a look. It's a basketball school and they havent made the Tourney since 98. No thanks.

If they were in the MAC they would have made the field a few times when they won the conference.

Well, if you were in the MAC right now, you'd be 0-1 since losing to Eastern Michigan over the weekend!

(11-15-2021 10:38 AM)BeatWestern! Wrote:  

(11-15-2021 10:31 AM)Illini1968 Wrote:  

(11-14-2021 09:10 PM)prairiedawg Wrote:  

(11-14-2021 07:33 PM)Illini1968 Wrote:  

(11-14-2021 11:14 AM)Schadenfreude Wrote:  It's the flagship-like name and the fact that it is in a neighboring state. Some do not realize that the former Southwest Missouri State is more than a seven-hour drive from the nearest MAC school.

Which is why the flagship like name Illinois St will be the first MVC school the MAC looks into, makes 10X more sense for a regional conference like the MAC.

Too bad Illinois State is average at sports or they might get a look. It's a basketball school and they havent made the Tourney since 98. No thanks.

If they were in the MAC they would have made the field a few times when they won the conference.

Well, if you were in the MAC right now, you'd be 0-1 since losing to Eastern Michigan over the weekend!

Correct, I am guessing we will see a coaching change in the basketball program after this season.. a very good mid major program in need of a coaching change is a pretty accurate description. But still a program that draws as well as anyone in the MAC.

Then again the topic was the success of the program over the last 25 years, and the NIU fan said what the MAC needs is a "State" program, which is why ISU makes perfect sense. Though I don't think they make a lateral move at best to the MAC for their non-football sports

Dear MAC members,
We only need another 34,000 comments on this dead issue.

11/15/2021

Dear Ken Barna,

How is your day going? Hope you are well.

Your friend,

Miami (Oh) Yeah!

Dear Miami (Oh) Yeah !,
I'm doing fine. Thanks for asking.

Dear Ken Barna,

What are your thoughts on MAC realignment?

I may be in the minority, but I believe that Illinois State brings as much, if not more, than any of the others mentioned...
ISU has a top notch 10,000 seat arena with pretty good attendance when the product on the court has been far above average, like in the past...
The stadium also has had some nice upgrades - $20 million (new press tower/suites) recently, but needs a capacity boost from its present 14,000 to at least 20,000... With increasing enrollment figures and moving up to FBS status, a 15-20,000 average should be attainable...
In most MAC circles, geography matters, and that is where ISU makes a lot of sense, being within 350 miles NW of another hopeful MAC member (WKU) plus only being 110 miles from NIU / 220 miles from Ball State / 248 miles from WMU...
It goes without saying, that being a state school does not hurt ISU and their chances for moving up !!

(11-15-2021 01:08 PM)FMRocket Wrote:  I may be in the minority, but I believe that Illinois State brings as much, if not more, than any of the others mentioned...
ISU has a top notch arena with pretty good attendance when the product on the court has been far above average, like in the past...
The stadium also has had some nice upgrades recently, but needs a capacity upgrade to over 20,000... With increasing enrollment figures and moving up to FBS status, a 15-20,000 average should be attainable...
In most MAC circles, geography matters, and that is where ISU makes a lot of sense, also being within 350 miles NW of another hopeful MAC member (WKU) plus only being / 110 miles from NIU / 220 miles from Ball State / 248 miles from WMU...
It goes without saying, that being a state school does not hurt ISU’s chances for moving up !!

Unfortunately can see that FMRocket. Did a google travel for UMass. We have separate athletic facilities for all sports, so suppose that several teams could travel at the same time, but will add costs. Idk but the student athlete maybe excited for a flight to UMass. What is the maximum distance for a bus trip 8 hours our is 10.5 possible?

MAC
5 hr 40 min (379.4 mi) via I-90 W Buffalo
8 hr 48 min (591.5 mi) via I-90 W Akron
9 hr 24 min (579.8 mi) via I-84 and I-80 W Kent State
10 hr 20 min (687.1 mi) via I-90 W Toledo
10 hr 21 min (691.8 mi) via I-90 W Boland Green
10 hr 21 min (671.9 mi) via I-90 W Eastern Michigan
11 hr 16 min (696.3 mi) via I-68 W Ohio
11 hr 35 min (744.4 mi) via I-90 W Central Michigan
12 hr 19 min (822.0 mi) via I-90 W Miami
12 hr 34 min (828.0 mi) via I-90 W Western Michigan
12 hr 41 min (828.4 mi) via I-90 W Ball State
14 hr 48 min (975.3 mi) via I-90 W Northern Illinois

WKU paired with Ill St. seems like a no brainer to the MAC.

(11-15-2021 01:30 PM)Steve1981 Wrote:  

(11-15-2021 01:08 PM)FMRocket Wrote:  I may be in the minority, but I believe that Illinois State brings as much, if not more, than any of the others mentioned...
ISU has a top notch 10,000 seat arena with pretty good attendance when the product on the court has been far above average, like in the past...
The stadium also has had some nice upgrades recently - $20million ( new press tower/suites ) but needs a capacity boost from its present 14,000 to at least 20,000...
With increasing enrollment figures and moving up to FBS status, a 15-20,000 average should be attainable...
In most MAC circles, geography matters, and that is where ISU makes a lot of sense, also being within 350 miles NW of another hopeful MAC member (WKU) plus only being / 110 miles from NIU / 220 miles from Ball State / 248 miles from WMU...
It goes without saying, that being a state school does not hurt ISU’s chances for moving up !!

Unfortunately can see that FMRocket. Did a google travel for UMass. We have separate athletic facilities for all sports, so suppose that several teams could travel at the same time, but will add costs. Idk but the student athlete maybe excited for a flight to UMass. What is the maximum distance for a bus trip 8 hours our is 10.5 possible?

MAC
5 hr 40 min (379.4 mi) via I-90 W Buffalo
8 hr 48 min (591.5 mi) via I-90 W Akron
9 hr 24 min (579.8 mi) via I-84 and I-80 W Kent State
10 hr 20 min (687.1 mi) via I-90 W Toledo
10 hr 21 min (691.8 mi) via I-90 W Boland Green
10 hr 21 min (671.9 mi) via I-90 W Eastern Michigan
11 hr 16 min (696.3 mi) via I-68 W Ohio
11 hr 35 min (744.4 mi) via I-90 W Central Michigan
12 hr 19 min (822.0 mi) via I-90 W Miami
12 hr 34 min (828.0 mi) via I-90 W Western Michigan
12 hr 41 min (828.4 mi) via I-90 W Ball State
14 hr 48 min (975.3 mi) via I-90 W Northern Illinois

If UMASS was in the MAC, I would more than likely fly into Logan, rent a car and drive the 95 or so miles west...
Flew into Boston then drove the 45 miles south to Gillette several years back ...
Am not sure what travel plans UT athletics would implement...
Keep up hope, if a couple MAC school should ever drop down,
( You could possibly be on deck )...