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RE: 2021 football position group strengths/weaknesses
(09-07-2021 10:40 AM)Dukes84 Wrote:  Looks like JMU is trying to integrate a vertical, downfield passing attack that will make them tougher to defend against the run, too. Cole apparently took some hits in that game...something they'll have to monitor and adjust to going forward.

Could you imagine the "likely" big step we take back if Cole was injured? 04-jawdrop
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(09-07-2021 02:58 PM)Dukester Wrote:  
(09-07-2021 10:40 AM)Dukes84 Wrote:  Looks like JMU is trying to integrate a vertical, downfield passing attack that will make them tougher to defend against the run, too. Cole apparently took some hits in that game...something they'll have to monitor and adjust to going forward.

Could you imagine the "likely" big step we take back if Cole was injured? 04-jawdrop

I don't want to imagine it because it could trainwreck a good team this year.
I was thinking of JMU's QB corps over the years and the last time prior to Spring and Fall 2021 that we didn't have a FBS QB transfer on the roster was 2013 which left us with Birdsong and a mediocre 6-6 year which resulted in Mickey being canned. QB is so very important you just can't afford to be lean there. But that is where we are this year despite having the biggest roster in JMU history.
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I don’t think we’re lean there at all. If no FBS transfer = lean, I’d ask you to define that a bit more specifically. There’s lauded HS talent we recruited & don’t forget Gage Moloney was on the team until May.
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(09-07-2021 08:52 PM)HyperDuke Wrote:  I don’t think we’re lean there at all. If no FBS transfer = lean, I’d ask you to define that a bit more specifically. There’s lauded HS talent we recruited & don’t forget Gage Moloney was on the team until May.

Speaking of Gage --- his stat line from week 1 9-15, 1 td, 1 int, 1 rush for 2 yards --- while splitting time at QB in a 45-21 loss to Rhody.

The QB room is just fine and I think we are setup to have a 4 year starter at QB in Billy Atkins (you know kinda like NDSU has done in the past with a lot of success)
09-08-2021 08:31 AM
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(09-08-2021 08:31 AM)ShadyP Wrote:  
(09-07-2021 08:52 PM)HyperDuke Wrote:  I don’t think we’re lean there at all. If no FBS transfer = lean, I’d ask you to define that a bit more specifically. There’s lauded HS talent we recruited & don’t forget Gage Moloney was on the team until May.

Speaking of Gage --- his stat line from week 1 9-15, 1 td, 1 int, 1 rush for 2 yards --- while splitting time at QB in a 45-21 loss to Rhody.

The QB room is just fine and I think we are setup to have a 4 year starter at QB in Billy Atkins (you know kinda like NDSU has done in the past with a lot of success)

I wouldn't say Atkins is a 4 year starter, but he's pretty close. I did like what I saw in the short time he was on the field Saturday. It was late in the game and not really a high pressure situation. I do like the fact that he's more of a dual threat than Cole is. That being said, I think Cole is deceptively fast. He doesn't have to run, but is pretty good when he does choose to.
I will say that Atkins > Maloney for sure. I just don't think he's quite ready to be the starter.
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(09-08-2021 08:41 AM)JMad03 Wrote:  
(09-08-2021 08:31 AM)ShadyP Wrote:  
(09-07-2021 08:52 PM)HyperDuke Wrote:  I don’t think we’re lean there at all. If no FBS transfer = lean, I’d ask you to define that a bit more specifically. There’s lauded HS talent we recruited & don’t forget Gage Moloney was on the team until May.

Speaking of Gage --- his stat line from week 1 9-15, 1 td, 1 int, 1 rush for 2 yards --- while splitting time at QB in a 45-21 loss to Rhody.

The QB room is just fine and I think we are setup to have a 4 year starter at QB in Billy Atkins (you know kinda like NDSU has done in the past with a lot of success)

I wouldn't say Atkins is a 4 year starter, but he's pretty close. I did like what I saw in the short time he was on the field Saturday. It was late in the game and not really a high pressure situation. I do like the fact that he's more of a dual threat than Cole is. That being said, I think Cole is deceptively fast. He doesn't have to run, but is pretty good when he does choose to.
I will say that Atkins > Maloney for sure. I just don't think he's quite ready to be the starter.

Well Atkins has elevated himself to QB2 as a true freshman since getting on campus in August, that is rather impressive.

Also he is not the starter now and does not have to be. I expect he will get limited playing time to preserve 4 years of eligibility and be a rFR next season.
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(09-07-2021 08:41 PM)Hart Foundation Wrote:  
(09-07-2021 02:58 PM)Dukester Wrote:  
(09-07-2021 10:40 AM)Dukes84 Wrote:  Looks like JMU is trying to integrate a vertical, downfield passing attack that will make them tougher to defend against the run, too. Cole apparently took some hits in that game...something they'll have to monitor and adjust to going forward.

Could you imagine the "likely" big step we take back if Cole was injured? 04-jawdrop

I don't want to imagine it because it could trainwreck a good team this year.
I was thinking of JMU's QB corps over the years and the last time prior to Spring and Fall 2021 that we didn't have a FBS QB transfer on the roster was 2013 which left us with Birdsong and a mediocre 6-6 year which resulted in Mickey being canned. QB is so very important you just can't afford to be lean there. But that is where we are this year despite having the biggest roster in JMU history.
I would have to think CC would’ve pulled the trigger really quick and easy on a QB in the portal if Cole wasn’t coming back and perhaps not bringing one in was part of the deal with Cole. Perhaps he weighed the idea of knowing your starter and being OK with the depth there versus targeting a transfer to provide competition/depth and upsetting the cart and decided he’d roll with what he had.
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(09-08-2021 08:50 AM)ShadyP Wrote:  I expect he will get limited playing time to preserve 4 years of eligibility and be a rFR next season.

What a treat that would be!
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RE: 2021 football position group strengths/weaknesses
Fornadel had surgery yesterday. A slight glimmer of hope in this DNR quote:
"Sources told the Daily News-Record on Wednesday that Fornadel underwent successful knee surgery on Tuesday, providing optimism for a possible return before the end of the season if all goes well in his recovery and rehab."

I'd probably rather have him come back for an additional year, but if he is planning on leaving after this season, a little is better than nothing.
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