(07-26-2021 02:43 PM)ArmoredUpKnight Wrote:  

(07-26-2021 01:41 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  

(07-26-2021 12:53 PM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  

(07-26-2021 12:40 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  

(07-26-2021 12:32 PM)ArmoredUpKnight Wrote:  Extra 2 mil and autonomy status…. Still worth the jump from AAC to Big12.

Hopefully ESPN says screw this Fox contact, Big12 leftovers come to the AAC and we’ll pay $10 mil per school.

The leftover B12 schools are getting $38 million a year right now and will through 2025 regardless of what conference TX and OK are in...their tier 1 and 2 rights belong to the deal for all of their home games until June 2025.

Why would any of them agree to come to the AAC for $10 million? They will each make nearly 4 times that next year by standing Pat and backfilling...plus the NCAA credits and exit fees as a deferred payday.

I don't think you read the article. It said their TV partners will reduce their contract. And Texas and Oklahoma will pay up to have their Tier 1 and 2 rights released.

If you think that the B12 will keep those rights until 2025, and not be negotiated out, I have some land to sell you.

I think the rights can get negotiated out, but it's tricky. There is no chance in hell the leftover B12 teams let go of them at a price where they make a dime less than they currently are in TV revenue. Lets say the worst case of that estimate is true and the leftover would get their TV revenue cut to a little over 9 million per team for the last 2 years of the deal. For the departing 2 teams to make the league "whole" in that scenario you are talking about OU and UT paying over 200 million a piece to leave. Doesn't matter what the TV deal is gonna be with the SEC neither of those schools are paying that. So you've got a real problem with negotiations here, and who knows if GOR's are actually legally enforceable. No one has tested this out, a court could strike that whole thing down or say nah you signed your rights over till 2025 and that's that. If the TV payout numbers are really that bleak for the B12 no way they just negotiate that away for a number any school is ever going to agree to.

The exit fees and buyout money is going to be held up in litigation for years. It would be a slow death if they stayed together just to collect the money owed.

The conference will die before Texas/OU pay anything.

Fox won’t go to bat for them. It was a bad deal that’s gotten worse. Fox will renegotiate because they would be losing tons on money. The leftovers average less than 1m viewers. Fox can’t pay top dollar for that lackluster product. It’s renegotiate the current deal or terminate the contract.

That's operating under the assumption they can just leave. No one has tested if a GOR will hold up, and yes it will take a while to settle that but when you are talking about 100's of millions of dollars they aren't just walking away from that, especially not the schools that don't have any hopes of finding homes. If OU and UT try to leave without settling the B12 would file an emergency injunction and with everything involved they'd be able to get it expedited and get a ruling. That wouldn't mean the case is settled but I'm pretty confident they'd be able to get a court to rule they couldn't leave until a settlement was reached or the case could be heard on the merits. Stalling is a fine strategy for the B12 left behinds because until someone actually leaves the networks can't scrap their contracts.

There is all this talk about the Big 12 being autonomous or in the Power 5 so that will somehow protect them.

You are assuming all the current NCAA rules will remain the same. That also assumes that the NCAA will be running College Football.

I think at best we are all just guessing what could happen but you may want to start looking through the lens of what any of this looks like when the SEC rewrites all of the rules. I doubt Texas Tech or OK State can do anything to stop it.

All of this isn't going to lead to more access for the likes of UCF, Memphis or Houston.....this is all going to lead to less access.

Not surprised I said it wouldn’t be much more than current AAC

(07-26-2021 12:17 PM)BCSvsBS Wrote:  If there are 5 ot less teams left, It will be a full merger.

The Big-American Athletic Conference

(07-26-2021 04:36 PM)EarthBoundMisfit Wrote:  

(07-26-2021 12:17 PM)BCSvsBS Wrote:  If there are 5 ot less teams left, It will be a full merger.

The Big-American Athletic Conference

The Big-American School & Sports Conference

Yes the Big A S S Conference.

Wait until you see the conference mascot ...

(07-26-2021 04:33 PM)Cubanbull1 Wrote:  Not surprised I said it wouldn’t be much more than current AAC

Mix in the top 1/3 of the AAC and see where it ends up... and then see where the AAC’s ends up.

(07-26-2021 04:41 PM)Stickboy46 Wrote:  

(07-26-2021 04:36 PM)EarthBoundMisfit Wrote:  

(07-26-2021 12:17 PM)BCSvsBS Wrote:  If there are 5 ot less teams left, It will be a full merger.

The Big-American Athletic Conference

The Big-American School & Sports Conference

Yes the Big A S S Conference.

Wait until you see the conference mascot ...

This is what I was looking for. I can just see the advertisements now.

(07-26-2021 03:01 PM)The Brown Bull Wrote:  There is all this talk about the Big 12 being autonomous or in the Power 5 so that will somehow protect them.

You are assuming all the current NCAA rules will remain the same. That also assumes that the NCAA will be running College Football.

I think at best we are all just guessing what could happen but you may want to start looking through the lens of what any of this looks like when the SEC rewrites all of the rules. I doubt Texas Tech or OK State can do anything to stop it.

All of this isn't going to lead to more access for the likes of UCF, Memphis or Houston.....this is all going to lead to less access.

Yep. The desperation and grasping of straws is quite amusing from certain posters. You’d think they’re already in the B12

If the top 4-5 schools from the AAC are gone unfortunately the AAC remaining teams are going to take a harsh, harsh, pay cut.

(07-26-2021 05:12 PM)Owls9878 Wrote:  

(07-26-2021 03:01 PM)The Brown Bull Wrote:  There is all this talk about the Big 12 being autonomous or in the Power 5 so that will somehow protect them.

You are assuming all the current NCAA rules will remain the same. That also assumes that the NCAA will be running College Football.

I think at best we are all just guessing what could happen but you may want to start looking through the lens of what any of this looks like when the SEC rewrites all of the rules. I doubt Texas Tech or OK State can do anything to stop it.

All of this isn't going to lead to more access for the likes of UCF, Memphis or Houston.....this is all going to lead to less access.

Yep. The desperation and grasping of straws is quite amusing from certain posters. You’d think they’re already in the B12

Yep some think they are already there and counting the big bills. LOL

The hot takes and bile from the folks who know their schools aren’t going to be on the short list is too entertaining to not goad a bit.

(07-26-2021 05:30 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  The hot takes and bile from the folks who know their schools aren’t going to be on the short list is too entertaining to not goad a bit.

LOL. You might be surprised who your school will end up with. Don’t count your chickens until they hatch.

Frankly the best of the hot takes has consistently been by USF folks...I think their heads are about to explode at the thought of being passed by UCF on the field and in conference hierarchy.

(07-26-2021 05:33 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  Frankly the best of the hot takes has consistently been by USF folks...I think their heads are about to explode at the thought of being passed by UCF on the field and in conference hierarchy.

Maybe. But the biggest head pops will be Bearcats fans when they get passed over again.

I don’t see many UC fans stressing out right now. We will either still be winning in a crappy conference or we will be in a better one. Win win.

(07-26-2021 05:33 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  Frankly the best of the hot takes has consistently been by USF folks...I think their heads are about to explode at the thought of being passed by UCF on the field and in conference hierarchy.

LOL. You are confusing going to a depleted Big12 to the old Big12.

If UCF goes with the B12 leftovers and USF does not. Won’t change my support of my school. UCF has done better and would deserve it. But the facts are the AAC will rebuild and while it may not bring in the money of that new B12 it’s not the gap that going to a real B12 with OU and Texas would had been. And with the new CFP deal the access to that will be similar in both leagues. You aren’t smelling playoffs in either of them without winning the league

But as I say don’t count your chickens before they hatch.

Bless your soul. You really think the new playoff format will be to create more access?

(07-26-2021 06:01 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  Bless your soul. You really think the new playoff format will be to create more access?

And you think the B12 leftovers are going to be allowed to sit in same table as SEC.

I think a 12 team playoff is to ensure that 8 spots go to the SEC and B10

And yea, a champ of a revamped B12 would have a hell of a better shot than the AAC champ most years.

(Hint) Look who is on the committee.

(07-26-2021 06:07 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  I think a 12 team playoff is to ensure that 8 spots go to the SEC and B10

And yea, an undefeated champ of a revamped B12 would have a hell of a better shot than the AAC champ lost years.

Exactly and they will cut out the leftovers as well as those left behind. The AAC and PAC are falling behind too.

Next maybe not just yet but the PAC is next getting raided or the ACC. The leftovers of the PAC and ACC will be in same boat as the current B12 leftovers.

Who knows there might be the old Big East football conference once again just not as a major conference

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