(08-01-2021 05:33 PM)THUNDERStruck73 Wrote:  No, you stated the MAC was horrible. We beat South Carolina, Temple, Clemson, #25 BYU, and #6 K State while in the MAC. If the MAC was so bad, how about you look at what the other conference members did in that time?

And again, ZERO championships for you. And you are 0-3 vs lowly little Marshall. Just stop

MAC zero BCS, 1 NY6 for Central Michigan which was manhandled by Wisconsin. Tech would regularly beat those schools back in the late 90’s. Lowly Tech was 6-0 against the MAC during that time period. So yes the MAC was horrendously bad during that time period
46-28 CMU, 61-20 Toledo, 40-14 NIU

Just stop? You mean pointing out the only illusion of grandeur exist in Marshall fans head. Or pointing that Marshall doesn’t have the highest G5 winning percentage, I mean cmon Marshall is barely over .500 since joining CUSA much less laying the groundwork for Boise, which is laughable

The difference is I know Tech is not the “Flagship” and neither is Marshall

(08-01-2021 05:33 PM)THUNDERStruck73 Wrote:  And again, ZERO championships for you.

Wait, so championships do or don't matter? I'm confused.

Maybe WKU is the flagship?

(08-01-2021 02:37 PM)FAU Connoisseur! Wrote:  Marshall had 53 wins in their first 20 seasons.

We only played like 5 or 6 games a season before World War I.

I actually found a 1908 Marshall article recently accounting to the History of Marshall Athletics. About 1904(?), Marshall made the decision to pull back on intercollegiate Athletics and focus more on intramurals because other collegiate Athletics was become problematic with "professionals" playing for other schools. We have a stretch where we played YMCA's, local army units, and "all-star" teams because someone seemed intercollegiate Athletics to be undesirable.

(08-01-2021 06:19 PM)Dawgxas Wrote:  

(08-01-2021 05:33 PM)THUNDERStruck73 Wrote:  No, you stated the MAC was horrible. We beat South Carolina, Temple, Clemson, #25 BYU, and #6 K State while in the MAC. If the MAC was so bad, how about you look at what the other conference members did in that time?

And again, ZERO championships for you. And you are 0-3 vs lowly little Marshall. Just stop

MAC zero BCS, 1 NY6 for Central Michigan which was manhandled by Wisconsin. Tech would regularly beat those schools back in the late 90’s. Lowly Tech was 6-0 against the MAC during that time period. So yes the MAC was horrendously bad during that time period
46-28 CMU, 61-20 Toledo, 40-14 NIU

Just stop? You mean pointing out the only illusion of grandeur exist in Marshall fans head. Or pointing that Marshall doesn’t have the highest G5 winning percentage, I mean cmon Marshall is barely over .500 since joining CUSA much less laying the groundwork for Boise, which is laughable

The difference is I know Tech is not the “Flagship” and neither is Marshall

Western Michigan. And I believe northern Illinois went in the BCS days.

(08-01-2021 06:19 PM)Dawgxas Wrote:  Just stop? You mean pointing out the only illusion of grandeur exist in Marshall fans head. Or pointing that Marshall doesn’t have the highest G5 winning percentage, I mean cmon Marshall is barely over .500 since joining CUSA much less laying the groundwork for Boise, which is laughable

Feel free to post a G5 school with a better record (other than Boise which was acknowledged) since the start of the BCS. You can go look, but you'll be looking a long time... (hint, try mcubed.net makes it really ready to search).

You realize that a third of our seasons since then have been 10+ win seasons? That's gonna skew some numbers... We just fired a guy who'd been averaging 8 wins per year for not winning enough...

(08-01-2021 08:56 PM)blazers9911 Wrote:  

(08-01-2021 06:19 PM)Dawgxas Wrote:  

(08-01-2021 05:33 PM)THUNDERStruck73 Wrote:  No, you stated the MAC was horrible. We beat South Carolina, Temple, Clemson, #25 BYU, and #6 K State while in the MAC. If the MAC was so bad, how about you look at what the other conference members did in that time?

And again, ZERO championships for you. And you are 0-3 vs lowly little Marshall. Just stop

MAC zero BCS, 1 NY6 for Central Michigan which was manhandled by Wisconsin. Tech would regularly beat those schools back in the late 90’s. Lowly Tech was 6-0 against the MAC during that time period. So yes the MAC was horrendously bad during that time period
46-28 CMU, 61-20 Toledo, 40-14 NIU

Just stop? You mean pointing out the only illusion of grandeur exist in Marshall fans head. Or pointing that Marshall doesn’t have the highest G5 winning percentage, I mean cmon Marshall is barely over .500 since joining CUSA much less laying the groundwork for Boise, which is laughable

The difference is I know Tech is not the “Flagship” and neither is Marshall

Western Michigan. And I believe northern Illinois went in the BCS days.

You are right. In 2012, All Tech had to do was win the final two games and Tech would have been ahead of NIU in the BCS bowl with a stronger schedule. Tech had already beaten Houston, Illinois, and Virginia. And lost by 2 Johnny Manziel Texas A&M

But in true Tech fashion, Tech folded down the stretch. Sonny Dykes had already called it in, knowing he was going to Cal-Berkley to be head coach.

(08-01-2021 09:11 PM)CoachMaclid Wrote:  

(08-01-2021 06:19 PM)Dawgxas Wrote:  Just stop? You mean pointing out the only illusion of grandeur exist in Marshall fans head. Or pointing that Marshall doesn’t have the highest G5 winning percentage, I mean cmon Marshall is barely over .500 since joining CUSA much less laying the groundwork for Boise, which is laughable

Feel free to post a G5 school with a better record (other than Boise which was acknowledged) since the start of the BCS. You can go look, but you'll be looking a long time... (hint, try mcubed.net makes it really ready to search).

You realize that a third of our seasons since then have been 10+ win seasons? That's gonna skew some numbers... We just fired a guy who'd been averaging 8 wins per year for not winning enough...

Don’t get me wrong Marshall adds a lot of value and credibility to CUSA. All the bowls wins, the P5 wins and undefeated season is something to be proud of.

But when I think of flagship I think of Boise in the WAC/MWC or Alabama in the SEC

The truth is, this conference doesn’t currently have a flag ship. That’s one of the issues we currently have. Heck, forget flagship, our conference champs rarely dominate the league. The only year I can think of that happening was Marshall in 2014, WKU (don’t remember the year) and FAU the one year with Kiffen. Even then, none of us went undefeated in conference.

We desperately need someone to run the table.

(08-01-2021 01:54 PM)Dawgxas Wrote:  

(08-01-2021 01:38 PM)CoachMaclid Wrote:  We have the most bowl wins in the G5, and we have the second best winning percentage since the start of the BCS era (behind only Boise). We're not taking a back seat to anyone.

Are you sure about that? I know Marshall had some really good years in the MAC but lets be honest the MAC was horrendous bad back then.

Marshall has also had some really lean years in CUSA even recently going 3-9.

Only went that low twice since before the 80s. Bad years are usually 5-7 which isn't that bad. We've only had one losing season in this iteration of CUSA. And that was 2016 which is skirting even being relevant as most measurements go back 5 years. We haven't had 1-win years or no-win years.

Even UCF strung together 0-win seasons on multiple occasions. USM has one or two. We're one of the most consistently winning teams in the country over many decades. We probably average something like 8 or 9 wins a season for almost 40 years. We had records like 13-0, 13-1, 12-2, etc sprinkled in a lot during the late 90s early 2ks and even bad years like 2015 we won 10 games. 2013, 2014, and 2015 we won at least 10 games. You guys talk about winning the conference. It's much harder to turn in that kind of record, year in and year out. Consistently in the conversation even if we don't follow through. And our worst years were under the last two coaches. We kept both too long. We kept Doc way too long. Should have made changes when he went 3-9. But our former AD and our former coach were good friends. He'd still be there if Hamrick wasn't overruled by others in the administration. You hopefully won't get any more free wins for no apparent reason in the middle of championship seasons where things just go to hell and stay there. We wasted so much opportunity under Doc. It's truly sickening.

(08-01-2021 02:37 PM)FAU Connoisseur! Wrote:  

(07-31-2021 10:17 PM)GreenBison Wrote:  

(07-31-2021 07:38 AM)Dusky Wrote:  

(07-31-2021 12:52 AM)GreenBison Wrote:  

(07-30-2021 10:55 PM)Seminowl Wrote:  Anyone with their head stuck up Brett Farve’s wranglers is a boomer.

F_U = 0 weeks in the polls

You know what’s funny, a team trying to claim being a “flagship” that’s only won the conference once in 15 years. Now that’s funny.

And look, I used more of your stupid laughing head emojis

F_U = only 108 wins in your entire history.

Marshall had 53 wins in their first 20 seasons.

Those seasons were like 4 or 5 exhibition games, total. They weren't 12 game seasons like now. Really?

Marshall, UAB, Southern Mississippi, and Louisiana Tech are the flagships. They'll be the first to go if the AAC needs backfill.

(08-01-2021 08:17 PM)topper1296 Wrote:  Maybe WKU is the flagship?

Based on your graph; I guess that makes Middle Tennessee the "Alternate Flagship". Nah. I'll stand by a previous post. CUSA ain't got no Flagship; but we sure gotta a whole bunch of paddle boats.

(08-02-2021 05:02 AM)Ourland Wrote:  Marshall, UAB, Southern Mississippi, and Louisiana Tech are the flagships. They'll be the first to go if the AAC needs backfill.

I'm too lazy to look it up myself. What is the record over maybe the last 10 years for each of these programs in football and men's bball?

(08-01-2021 08:17 PM)topper1296 Wrote:  Maybe WKU is the flagship?

Looks like FAU and FIU are truly twins, even according to this graph...

This is the classic “whose is bigger” thread.

(Hint: we are all below average and should keep our shorts up)

(08-02-2021 10:01 AM)galojah Wrote:  This is the classic “whose is bigger” thread.

(Hint: we are all below average and should keep our shorts up)

Some are claiming they're show'ers and others are claiming they're grow'ers. It's quite comical.

(08-02-2021 05:02 AM)Ourland Wrote:  Marshall, UAB, Southern Mississippi, and Louisiana Tech are the flagships. They'll be the first to go if the AAC needs backfill.

Program quality wise, agreed. Feel like Rice also will be strongly considered for an AAC call up if Houston leaves as well given its academic prestige, location, and similar profile with other AAC private schools in the area (SMU, Tulane, Tulsa).

DIE THREAD!
DIE!

(08-02-2021 09:12 AM)goliath74 Wrote:  

(08-01-2021 08:17 PM)topper1296 Wrote:  Maybe WKU is the flagship?

Looks like FAU and FIU are truly twins, even according to this graph...

Don't let the old guard see this chart, their illusion of greatness might crumble... Southern Miss, UAB, and marshal.