(08-09-2021 02:50 PM)BDKJMU Wrote: (08-09-2021 09:46 AM)ShadyP Wrote: (08-09-2021 09:18 AM)bjk3047 Wrote: (08-08-2021 04:05 PM)Purple Wrote: Some reports claim that 70 to 80% of those now suffering with Covid have been vaccinated.
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Anyone have any reliable nationwide numbers on this? I say "reliable" because I suspect that many of the reports are agenda-driven.
Okay, I'll bite. Knowing full well you'll find a way to say that AP, Reuters, and Johns Hopkins aren't reliable.
AP: Nearly all COVID deaths in US are now among unvaccinated
Quote:An Associated Press analysis of available government data from May shows that “breakthrough” infections in fully vaccinated people accounted for fewer than 1,200 of more than 107,000 COVID-19 hospitalizations. That’s about 1.1%.
And only about 150 of the more than 18,000 COVID-19 deaths in May were in fully vaccinated people. That translates to about 0.8%, or five deaths per day on average.
Johns Hopkins: Delta Variant: New Data on COVID-19 Transmission by Vaccinated Individuals
Quote:1. Vaccines remain highly effective at preventing severe disease.
2. Breakthrough infections among vaccinated individuals remain uncommon.
3. The majority of new COVID-19 infections in the US are among unvaccinated people.
Reuters: How the Delta variant upends assumptions about the coronavirus
Quote:In the United States, which has experienced more COVID-19 cases and deaths than any other country, the Delta variant represents about 83% of new infections. So far, unvaccinated people represent nearly 97% of severe cases.
Dr. Monica Gandhi, an infectious diseases doctor at the University of California, San Francisco, said many vaccinated people are "so disappointed" that they are not 100% protected from mild infections. But the fact that nearly all Americans hospitalized with COVID-19 right now are unvaccinated "is pretty astounding effectiveness," she said.
Oh wow, here we go again with all this stuff.
Seriously all, anyone that wants one the 3 vaccines has had every opportunity to get it by now. So at this point I see it as a personal responsibility issue -- if folks chose not to get vaccinated they have accepted any risks.
It seems pretty simple to me:
- If you have been vaccinated there is no need to wear a mask unless you want to and think you mask looks cool
- If you have not been vaccinated, you should probably wear a mask right now, but if you don't I don't really care b/c I have been vaccinated.
I just want to sit in my normal season seats for football and bball instead of finding out week to week what corner JMU has deemed the best option and stuck me there.
Can the moderators please just create a COVID thread and dump all this crap in there and not muddy up threads where I thought we were actually discussing football and leadup to the season.
https://csnbbs.com/thread-901559.html
https://csnbbs.com/thread-916584.html
Agreed . Why this crap got brought up in the 1st place I don‘t know.
Why is it brought up? Really? It is brought up because it is still relevant as hell and could impact what this board is all about - JMU sports.
All I asked is if anyone had any evidence regarding what percentage of the current wave of Covid patients had or had not been vaccinated. bjk was the only one to offer any evidence (Thanks, bjk!). BDK and others just bitched about the RELEVANT question being asked. Just DAMN!
I really, really want to know if there is a large segment of the current Covid wave that has been vaccinated, and if so, what does that mean? Does that mean that the vaccine is ineffective or that the testing is flawed or that this is normal? After all, it is not unusual for those who receive flu shots to contract the flu.
I found
this article from Oregon in the Statesman Journal.
In June, it was recorded and reported that 8% of new Covid cases in Oregon were among those fully vaccinated and that 6% of Covid deaths were among those fully vaccinated.
Those numbers do not seem shocking. However, in the month of July, 19% of new Oregon Covid cases were among those fully vaccinated and 9% of Covid deaths were among those fully vaccinated. Not a promising trend!
As for me and my immediate family, we received the vaccine early and have had no issues. On the other hand, I have two cousins (father and son), both of whom have been admitted to the hospital with Covid within the past two weeks (one is still there) and both of whom were unvaccinated. They are getting well but I was told by their immediate family members that for a while it was "touch and go."
I am as confused by this pandemic now as I was in the very beginning, and forgive me for asking the question, BDK, but I don't believe any amount of stats you post will make Covid go away. It is still RELEVANT!
Like everyone else, I just want things to return to normal.