(03-08-2021 06:38 PM)schmolik Wrote:  I currently have 2 teams from the WCC: 2 (Gonz, BYU), AAC: 2 (Hou, WSU), MVC: 2 (Loy, Drake), MWC: 2 (SDSt, CSU), and
A-10: 2 (St. B, Xav).

https://www.bloggingthebracket.com/2021/...ate-3-8-21

I'm concerned the American might get only Houston. It seemingly has been a so-so season collectively for the non-P6. And that's one reason (among others) I'd be fine with Gonzaga winning it all.

(03-08-2021 06:40 PM)bill dazzle Wrote:  

(03-08-2021 06:38 PM)schmolik Wrote:  I currently have 2 teams from the WCC: 2 (Gonz, BYU), AAC: 2 (Hou, WSU), MVC: 2 (Loy, Drake), MWC: 2 (SDSt, CSU), and
A-10: 2 (St. B, Xav).

https://www.bloggingthebracket.com/2021/...ate-3-8-21

I'm concerned the American might get only Houston. It seemingly has been a so-so season collectively for the non-P6. And that's one reason (among others) I'd be fine with Gonzaga winning it all.

I'm puzzled why Lunardi has Wichita State as the AQ team from the AAC (before the league tourney even starts) and Houston as a #2 seed at large. Maybe that's the only way he could justify having the AAC as more than a one bid league this year.

(03-08-2021 08:12 PM)ken d Wrote:  

(03-08-2021 06:40 PM)bill dazzle Wrote:  

(03-08-2021 06:38 PM)schmolik Wrote:  I currently have 2 teams from the WCC: 2 (Gonz, BYU), AAC: 2 (Hou, WSU), MVC: 2 (Loy, Drake), MWC: 2 (SDSt, CSU), and
A-10: 2 (St. B, Xav).

https://www.bloggingthebracket.com/2021/...ate-3-8-21

I'm concerned the American might get only Houston. It seemingly has been a so-so season collectively for the non-P6. And that's one reason (among others) I'd be fine with Gonzaga winning it all.

I'm puzzled why Lunardi has Wichita State as the AQ team from the AAC (before the league tourney even starts) and Houston as a #2 seed at large. Maybe that's the only way he could justify having the AAC as more than a one bid league this year.

He does that for every conference - Wichita State won the regular season title, so they are listed as the AQ.

(03-08-2021 08:25 PM)dbackjon Wrote:  

(03-08-2021 08:12 PM)ken d Wrote:  

(03-08-2021 06:40 PM)bill dazzle Wrote:  

(03-08-2021 06:38 PM)schmolik Wrote:  I currently have 2 teams from the WCC: 2 (Gonz, BYU), AAC: 2 (Hou, WSU), MVC: 2 (Loy, Drake), MWC: 2 (SDSt, CSU), and
A-10: 2 (St. B, Xav).

https://www.bloggingthebracket.com/2021/...ate-3-8-21

I'm concerned the American might get only Houston. It seemingly has been a so-so season collectively for the non-P6. And that's one reason (among others) I'd be fine with Gonzaga winning it all.

I'm puzzled why Lunardi has Wichita State as the AQ team from the AAC (before the league tourney even starts) and Houston as a #2 seed at large. Maybe that's the only way he could justify having the AAC as more than a one bid league this year.

He does that for every conference - Wichita State won the regular season title, so they are listed as the AQ.

Wichita has a solid team. Would be nice for the American to get WSU in the Big Dance with Houston.

I can show with evidence that the Selection Committee is biased towards mid majors.

https://www.bloggingthebracket.com/2021/...-2006-2019

(03-08-2021 06:38 PM)schmolik Wrote:  I currently have 2 teams from the WCC: 2 (Gonz, BYU), AAC: 2 (Hou, WSU), MVC: 2 (Loy, Drake), MWC: 2 (SDSt, CSU), and
A-10: 2 (St. B, Xav).

https://www.bloggingthebracket.com/2021/...ate-3-8-21

Xavier had one hell of a year to be able to represent both the BE and A10 (guessing you need to update that to say VCU instead there).

(03-08-2021 06:40 PM)bill dazzle Wrote:  

(03-08-2021 06:38 PM)schmolik Wrote:  I currently have 2 teams from the WCC: 2 (Gonz, BYU), AAC: 2 (Hou, WSU), MVC: 2 (Loy, Drake), MWC: 2 (SDSt, CSU), and
A-10: 2 (St. B, Xav).

https://www.bloggingthebracket.com/2021/...ate-3-8-21

I'm concerned the American might get only Houston. It seemingly has been a so-so season collectively for the non-P6. And that's one reason (among others) I'd be fine with Gonzaga winning it all.

I think the AAC gets three teams in - Houston, Memphis and Wichita State.

(03-09-2021 09:46 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(03-08-2021 06:40 PM)bill dazzle Wrote:  

(03-08-2021 06:38 PM)schmolik Wrote:  I currently have 2 teams from the WCC: 2 (Gonz, BYU), AAC: 2 (Hou, WSU), MVC: 2 (Loy, Drake), MWC: 2 (SDSt, CSU), and
A-10: 2 (St. B, Xav).

https://www.bloggingthebracket.com/2021/...ate-3-8-21

I'm concerned the American might get only Houston. It seemingly has been a so-so season collectively for the non-P6. And that's one reason (among others) I'd be fine with Gonzaga winning it all.

I think the AAC gets three teams in - Houston, Memphis and Wichita State.

I hope you are proved correct. But I don't see Memphis getting a bid unless it at least makes the AAC finals (and doesn't get blown out).

5 non-P6 at-large bids

All 2 bid leagues

AAC: Wichita
A10: VCU
MVC: Drake
MWC: Utah St
WCC: BYU

(03-14-2021 11:52 PM)IWokeUpLikeThis Wrote:  5 non-P6 at-large bids

All 2 bid leagues

AAC: Wichita
A10: VCU
MVC: Drake
MWC: Utah St
WCC: BYU

I like your use of "non-P6" for what clearly are the five best leagues outside the power structure. And those five at-large teams that were invited ... seems fair and valid.

(03-14-2021 11:52 PM)IWokeUpLikeThis Wrote:  5 non-P6 at-large bids

All 2 bid leagues

AAC: Wichita
A10: VCU
MVC: Drake
MWC: Utah St
WCC: BYU

Wichita and Drake were just barely in there too.

Its become real tough outside of the P6 leagues to do more than 3 anymore and two isn't even a lock going into a season.

(03-15-2021 08:51 AM)Kit-Cat Wrote:  

(03-14-2021 11:52 PM)IWokeUpLikeThis Wrote:  5 non-P6 at-large bids

All 2 bid leagues

AAC: Wichita
A10: VCU
MVC: Drake
MWC: Utah St
WCC: BYU

Wichita and Drake were just barely in there too.

Its become real tough outside of the P6 leagues to do more than 3 anymore and two isn't even a lock going into a season.

I wouldn’t go that far. Before conference play, Richmond and St. Louis looked like single digit seeds, but they lost to teams they weren’t supposed to and SLU also had major covid issues.

Next season I can see the A-10 putting in four or five from: SBU, VCU, SLU, Dayton, Richmond, Davidson, and even UMass.

**** is hitting the fan at UMass. Take them out of your list.

(03-15-2021 09:22 AM)esayem Wrote:  

(03-15-2021 08:51 AM)Kit-Cat Wrote:  

(03-14-2021 11:52 PM)IWokeUpLikeThis Wrote:  5 non-P6 at-large bids

All 2 bid leagues

AAC: Wichita
A10: VCU
MVC: Drake
MWC: Utah St
WCC: BYU

Wichita and Drake were just barely in there too.

Its become real tough outside of the P6 leagues to do more than 3 anymore and two isn't even a lock going into a season.

I wouldn’t go that far. Before conference play, Richmond and St. Louis looked like single digit seeds, but they lost to teams they weren’t supposed to and SLU also had major covid issues.

Next season I can see the A-10 putting in four or five from: SBU, VCU, SLU, Dayton, Richmond, Davidson, and even UMass.

Its been a long time since the A10 had a 5 bid year, not since the last realignment if I recall.

(03-15-2021 09:26 AM)Steve1981 Wrote:  **** is hitting the fan at UMass. Take them out of your list.

Ah, the big man is transferring. Send him down to Carolina!

(03-14-2021 11:52 PM)IWokeUpLikeThis Wrote:  5 non-P6 at-large bids

All 2 bid leagues

AAC: Wichita
A10: VCU
MVC: Drake
MWC: Utah St
WCC: BYU

Someone mentioned politics, and I agree with them, would not surprise me if politics played a role in all of these conferences getting two bids.

(03-15-2021 09:45 AM)Kit-Cat Wrote:  

(03-15-2021 09:22 AM)esayem Wrote:  

(03-15-2021 08:51 AM)Kit-Cat Wrote:  

(03-14-2021 11:52 PM)IWokeUpLikeThis Wrote:  5 non-P6 at-large bids

All 2 bid leagues

AAC: Wichita
A10: VCU
MVC: Drake
MWC: Utah St
WCC: BYU

Wichita and Drake were just barely in there too.

Its become real tough outside of the P6 leagues to do more than 3 anymore and two isn't even a lock going into a season.

I wouldn’t go that far. Before conference play, Richmond and St. Louis looked like single digit seeds, but they lost to teams they weren’t supposed to and SLU also had major covid issues.

Next season I can see the A-10 putting in four or five from: SBU, VCU, SLU, Dayton, Richmond, Davidson, and even UMass.

Its been a long time since the A10 had a 5 bid year, not since the last realignment if I recall.

True.

SBU will start five seniors next season, Davidson is improved and moving up. VCU is young and dancing. Dayton has a top 50 recruit coming in next season.

Richmond and St. Louis will probably fall, they're losing some guys (unless they come back).

The UMass transfer probably takes them out of the hunt.

So we're looking at probably four tops: SBU, VCU, Dayton, and Davidson. Depending on what happens with UR and SLU, they could be in the hunt.

(03-15-2021 10:29 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(03-14-2021 11:52 PM)IWokeUpLikeThis Wrote:  5 non-P6 at-large bids

All 2 bid leagues

AAC: Wichita
A10: VCU
MVC: Drake
MWC: Utah St
WCC: BYU

Someone mentioned politics, and I agree with them, would not surprise me if politics played a role in all of these conferences getting two bids.

That's an interesting take considering 5 non-P6 bids is historically below the average. Mid-major bids dipped to a historic low in the 2014-2018 period which happened to be the same 5 years 5 of the 10 selection committee members came from P6's and could effectively lockout mid-majors with their votes. All evidence of the # of mid-major bids throughout history - in conjunction with the number of P6 representatives on the selection committee - could only conclude that 5-year historic low to be a by-product of politics from the selection committee's P6-heavy makeup.

So those conferences getting two bids wasn't a product of politics - it was a reversion to the mean from that 5-year stretch when there actually were politics favoring P6's.

Your assertion goes in the complete opposite direction of historical bid allocation and historical committee makeup.

(03-15-2021 01:59 PM)IWokeUpLikeThis Wrote:  

(03-15-2021 10:29 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(03-14-2021 11:52 PM)IWokeUpLikeThis Wrote:  5 non-P6 at-large bids

All 2 bid leagues

AAC: Wichita
A10: VCU
MVC: Drake
MWC: Utah St
WCC: BYU

Someone mentioned politics, and I agree with them, would not surprise me if politics played a role in all of these conferences getting two bids.

That's an interesting take considering 5 non-P6 bids is historically below the average. Mid-major bids dipped to a historic low in the 2014-2018 period which happened to be the same 5 years 5 of the 10 selection committee members came from P6's and could effectively lockout mid-majors with their votes. All evidence of the # of mid-major bids throughout history - in conjunction with the number of P6 representatives on the selection committee - could only conclude that 5-year historic low to be a by-product of politics from the selection committee's P6-heavy makeup.

So those conferences getting two bids wasn't a product of politics - it was a reversion to the mean from that 5-year stretch when there actually were politics favoring P6's.

Your assertion goes in the complete opposite direction of historical bid allocation and historical committee makeup.

Every season is different, some years more P6 are deserving, some years more G5 are deserving.

This year, it seems that some marginal Gs, like Wichita and Drake, were let in.

I think getting two in from each of those mid-major conferences was good politics in this virus year. But who knows for sure?

(03-15-2021 02:33 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(03-15-2021 01:59 PM)IWokeUpLikeThis Wrote:  

(03-15-2021 10:29 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(03-14-2021 11:52 PM)IWokeUpLikeThis Wrote:  5 non-P6 at-large bids

All 2 bid leagues

AAC: Wichita
A10: VCU
MVC: Drake
MWC: Utah St
WCC: BYU

Someone mentioned politics, and I agree with them, would not surprise me if politics played a role in all of these conferences getting two bids.

That's an interesting take considering 5 non-P6 bids is historically below the average. Mid-major bids dipped to a historic low in the 2014-2018 period which happened to be the same 5 years 5 of the 10 selection committee members came from P6's and could effectively lockout mid-majors with their votes. All evidence of the # of mid-major bids throughout history - in conjunction with the number of P6 representatives on the selection committee - could only conclude that 5-year historic low to be a by-product of politics from the selection committee's P6-heavy makeup.

So those conferences getting two bids wasn't a product of politics - it was a reversion to the mean from that 5-year stretch when there actually were politics favoring P6's.

Your assertion goes in the complete opposite direction of historical bid allocation and historical committee makeup.

Every season is different, some years more P6 are deserving, some years more G5 are deserving.

This year, it seems that some marginal Gs, like Wichita and Drake, were let in.

I think getting two in from each of those mid-major conferences was good politics in this virus year. But who knows for sure?

Drake was 6-2 Q1/Q2 — good chunk of it without their top 2 players. Wichita won the #7 league. That’s why those 2 got in.

If there was politics, it was the MWC Commissioner being on the committee and Utah St getting in. USU was 4-6 Q1/Q2 in the #12 league. Not only did they get in, they bypassed the First Four entirely.