(03-07-2024 12:36 AM)jcohen42 Wrote:  

(03-06-2024 04:41 PM)JonP Wrote:  What jumped out at me was that several CAA schools absolutely dominate in only a couple sports. Northeastern's hardware is almost entirely from running and women's rowing. Elon's championships are mostly from women's running sports. Not surprisingly, southern schools tend to win titles in warm-weather sports.

Now, Drexel doesn't dominate in anything. I get that. But still interesting to me.

I dunno what the takeaway is. One or two great coaches can earn you a lot of titles? Pick a couple things to be great at?

One takeaway is, this is what happens when the sport you pick to be great at (squash) is not sponsored by your own conference.

Here you go!…

https://csnbbs.com/thread-987851.html

i hope hampton doesn't become our whipping boy since lasalle beat us this year.

to paraphrase ricky bobby...if you're not first once in a while...you might as well be last. sitting midpack to bottom half in every sport is no fun. i'm looking at the squash coach's bio and it's not stellar. thankfully we've had some coaching turnover in recent years. i remember going through our sports and it seemed like everyone was in like their 25th year and had maybe 1 conference tournament title game appearance.

there is not a winning culture at drexel. that's the legacy of eric zilmer. that and turning the armory into a squash center. i can't imagine it has much use for the average drexel student yet occupies possibly one of the best pieces of land on the entire campus.

Interesting tidbit here, apparently the ASUN is looking to make moves and that includes potentially poaching from the CAA. It's a weird move because the ASUN is a worse BB conference than the CAA by pretty much every metric.

Assuming this is a southern team, here are the options, ordered in what I think is least to most likely:

• Charleston - extremely unlikely, CoC is angling for the A10.
• UNCW - also very unlikely, they have very little to gain.
• Campbell - unlikely, they just moved into the CAA and haven't been a disaster
• William & Mary - theoretically possible but it would be a very odd fit. You'd expect the ASUN to be maybe a third or fourth option for them.
• Elon - I could see it. They've been in the CAA for a bit now and haven't really established themselves. But we've all heard that they want those northeast games, and the ASUN would be a strong pivot away from that. If they wanted to leave and the SoCon bridge is burned, the ASUN is probably their best option.
• NC A&T/Hampton - Putting them together because I don't think either wants to be on a HBCU island. It's possible that after a couple years in the CAA, neither envisions an outcome where they can compete annually in football and men's basketball, but they still want a conference that offers an established pathway to D1. The question is, would the ASUN want them? Maybe the chance to "poach" teams from the CAA would overshadow the fact that it'd make our conference stronger.
• The most likely of them all - nobody leaves. ASUN fills from D2 only, and we keep the status quo.
  

(03-19-2024 03:33 PM)jcohen42 Wrote:  Interesting tidbit here, apparently the ASUN is looking to make moves and that includes potentially poaching from the CAA. It's a weird move because the ASUN is a worse BB conference than the CAA by pretty much every metric.

Assuming this is a southern team, here are the options, ordered in what I think is least to most likely:

• Charleston - extremely unlikely, CoC is angling for the A10.
• UNCW - also very unlikely, they have very little to gain.
• Campbell - unlikely, they just moved into the CAA and haven't been a disaster
• William & Mary - theoretically possible but it would be a very odd fit. You'd expect the ASUN to be maybe a third or fourth option for them.
• Elon - I could see it. They've been in the CAA for a bit now and haven't really established themselves. But we've all heard that they want those northeast games, and the ASUN would be a strong pivot away from that. If they wanted to leave and the SoCon bridge is burned, the ASUN is probably their best option.
• NC A&T/Hampton - Putting them together because I don't think either wants to be on a HBCU island. It's possible that after a couple years in the CAA, neither envisions an outcome where they can compete annually in football and men's basketball, but they still want a conference that offers an established pathway to D1. The question is, would the ASUN want them? Maybe the chance to "poach" teams from the CAA would overshadow the fact that it'd make our conference stronger.
• The most likely of them all - nobody leaves. ASUN fills from D2 only, and we keep the status quo.
  

Yeah, I can't see any of these schools leaving. The ASun is the southern version of the Northeast Conference. They're Division II feeding conferences. Schools who are successful and want to invest more into their programs eventually move out of these conferences.

(03-19-2024 03:33 PM)jcohen42 Wrote:  Interesting tidbit here, apparently the ASUN is looking to make moves and that includes potentially poaching from the CAA. It's a weird move because the ASUN is a worse BB conference than the CAA by pretty much every metric.

Assuming this is a southern team, here are the options, ordered in what I think is least to most likely:

• Charleston - extremely unlikely, CoC is angling for the A10.
• UNCW - also very unlikely, they have very little to gain.
• Campbell - unlikely, they just moved into the CAA and haven't been a disaster
• William & Mary - theoretically possible but it would be a very odd fit. You'd expect the ASUN to be maybe a third or fourth option for them.
• Elon - I could see it. They've been in the CAA for a bit now and haven't really established themselves. But we've all heard that they want those northeast games, and the ASUN would be a strong pivot away from that. If they wanted to leave and the SoCon bridge is burned, the ASUN is probably their best option.
• NC A&T/Hampton - Putting them together because I don't think either wants to be on a HBCU island. It's possible that after a couple years in the CAA, neither envisions an outcome where they can compete annually in football and men's basketball, but they still want a conference that offers an established pathway to D1. The question is, would the ASUN want them? Maybe the chance to "poach" teams from the CAA would overshadow the fact that it'd make our conference stronger.
• The most likely of them all - nobody leaves. ASUN fills from D2 only, and we keep the status quo.
  

Interesting to think about, but I don't see how this is a good move for pretty much anyone in the CAA.

The ASun doesn't sponsor football any more, so football-playing schools are mostly now in the UAC. Any CAA school would be the eastern-most UAC school by a lot.

I could *maybe* see a southern school being interested in having more games in Florida, from a student-recruiting and alumni engagement perspective. But the ASun is such a step down basketball-wise. They were the No. 26 league this season in the NET rankings.

Keep in mind trying to get and having a chance at getting, are not the same thing. As a smaller conference Id throw darts at a bigger one who is unstable as well. Doubt they expect to get any bites or call backs

A&T previously turned the ASUN down for the Big South.

Regardless of basketball strength A&T would not leave for the ASUN, CAA is in better markets for student recruitment and alumni engagement.

Lastly, travel to Arkansas, TN, Alabama and FL does not excite the fan base. Neither does travel to Utah and Texas to play a FCS football game.

You guys are stuck with us :)

Massive collapse last night by Montana State. Up about 15 halfway through the second half and lost in OT to Grambling State.

In the late one Boise State continued their bad run in the NCAA. Neither them or Colorado looked good or comfrotable. Colorado won and Boise is now 0-10 in the NCAA tournament

A whopping 1,763 showed up to the John A Dupont Pavilion to watch Villanova in the NIT last night. Smaller crowd than when Drexel last hosted NIT games at the DAC. And Nova students were in session and it was $2 everything night including beer. So much for the NIT making sure that major programs hosted games instead of mid majors. Seton Hall had 1,233 for their game against St Joes. Now that may have been a sellout but Walsh might not seat more than that. Of course they couldn't play at the Pru Center on last minute notice. Princeton had 1,708 for their game, but that's about what they usually draw, especially for a weeknight.

Mid Major Indiana State had 6,421. Mid Major Bradley had 4,691.

(03-20-2024 09:20 AM)Zorch Wrote:  ...Maybe those home sites don't fill up because it is the "same old, same old" every year with those blue bloods. ...

(03-21-2024 07:47 AM)J.B. Wrote:  A whopping 1,763 showed up to the John A Dupont Pavilion to watch Villanova in the NIT last night. ...Seton Hall had 1,233 for their game against St Joes. ....Princeton had 1,708 for their game, but that's about what they usually draw, especially for a weeknight.

Mid Major Indiana State had 6,421. Mid Major Bradley had 4,691.

Bingo!!