(06-20-2020 04:08 PM)BraveKnight Wrote:  

(06-20-2020 11:42 AM)pesik Wrote:  

(06-20-2020 04:41 AM)Nameless Wrote:  I probably would've put the TU-WSU hoops rivalry before TU-Houston before reading this thread. But now? Teh rivalry is #2 for me, and closer to 1 than I initially had it.

i cant tell if this is joke or not..if your joking its fine then..if you are serious its not a rivalry..rivalries have to be both ways ..houston doesnt consider tulsa a rival

houston permanent matchup is smu and memphis..the schools and conference decided to preserve memphis/houston..a game thats only been played about 7 years over tulsa..that should be all you need to know

here is a poll by 1000 houston fans on who they want to keep playing in the west, smu was a given so they arent in the poll..tulsa was in last place by a comfortable margin
https://twitter.com/Joseph_Duarte/status...5403632641

you realize Teh rivalry is joke we made based on that premise...the fuel behind tulsa side is that we embarrassed them in a 100-6 game. houston embarrassed Tulsa, so you get why Tulsa is mad, houston perspective houston just crushed a team, why would we consider them a rival..houston crushed everyone during those years..that same year we beat tulane, cincy and idaho by 50+..there are atleast 30 teams houston has put embarrassing scores on (in 89 alone 95-21 vs smu, 66-10 vs baylor, 69-0 unlv, 65-7 temple, 55-10 tcu, 64-0 rice, 47-9 texas)

@Foreverandever lol, your “rival” doesn’t even care about you.

Dude, you have been on this board long enough to know Pesik isn't the only Houston fan, the most representative houston fan, or right very often. Come on, this is even worse than the jed like poll idea, if your best argument is Pesik said so it's not looking real good. You realize that 100-6 game was in the 60s and he just referenced scores from 1989?

The hate started before the 100-6 game, which occurred because they poisoned us. The year before we beat them, knocked them out of the polls and a bowl, when bowl appearences really meant something. It continued after as well, which is why in 2009 the Houston announcer told Graham to stick that in his pipe and smoke it.

(06-20-2020 05:30 PM)Foreverandever Wrote:  Dude, you have been on this board long enough to know Pesik isn't the only Houston fan, the most representative houston fan, or right very often. Come on, this is even worse than the jed like poll idea, if your best argument is Pesik said so it's not looking real good. You realize that 100-6 game was in the 60s and he just referenced scores from 1989?

The hate started before the 100-6 game, which occurred because they poisoned us. The year before we beat them, knocked them out of the polls and a bowl, when bowl appearences really meant something. It continued after as well, which is why in 2009 the Houston announcer told Graham to stick that in his pipe and smoke it.

i didnt want to get dragged into your debate which at this point seem to have gotten personal... but since you want to drag me in it, and insult me ..

if i dont represent the houston fanbase..how about a poll by the houston fanbase (1000 responses, conducted by the houston beat writer)

edit: i also referenced other games in the year of the 60s..but then said we have a history of beating teams badly, like in 89 were we shamed a lot of teams...

(06-20-2020 09:59 AM)GoOwls111 Wrote:  

(06-19-2020 12:30 AM)BraveKnight Wrote:  

(06-19-2020 12:24 AM)pesik Wrote:  ucf/usf..its not even close.. you guys genuinely hate each other and want to keep playing each other

no one will mention this but ecu/ucf is likely number #2, ecu has gone completely trash in all sports, but ucf vs ecu used to be toxic when both were decent

Tulsa Wichita is likely #3

tulsa houston isnt a thing at all..houstons "maintained" match-ups as we go division-less is memphis and smu

memphis-cincy dont play enough in football--never good at the same time in basketball
houston-smu have never been good at the same time in any sport so not much fuel there
smu/navy is not a rivalry-- its a trophy game . i consider it more a tradition than rivalry

Houston/Navy is constantly put on rivalry week..the conference/network want it to be a rivaly because it draws numbers but its not

houston/cincy in basketball..houston/memphis in football is budding but to young to call it a rivalry

Thank you. I don’t understand how it’s so hard to grasp that UCF usf is really the only nationally relevant rivalry in the conference.

Tulane vs Houston has potential... Tulane needs to "pound" Houston a few more years in a row for it to develop.

Wouldn't mind Temple vs Cincinnati and Temple vs ECU would love to see those 2 develop.

Tulane's won 3 of the last 5, and is responsible for UH firing a coach in that timeframe.

It's a good divisional game for us - but not a rivalry.

Best AAC rivalry for me is Cincinnati vs. Memphis. It's going to get even better if both FB programs stay nationally relevant.

(06-20-2020 05:59 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(06-20-2020 05:30 PM)Foreverandever Wrote:  Dude, you have been on this board long enough to know Pesik isn't the only Houston fan, the most representative houston fan, or right very often. Come on, this is even worse than the jed like poll idea, if your best argument is Pesik said so it's not looking real good. You realize that 100-6 game was in the 60s and he just referenced scores from 1989?

The hate started before the 100-6 game, which occurred because they poisoned us. The year before we beat them, knocked them out of the polls and a bowl, when bowl appearences really meant something. It continued after as well, which is why in 2009 the Houston announcer told Graham to stick that in his pipe and smoke it.

i didnt want to get dragged into your debate which at this point seem to have gotten personal... but since you want to drag me in it, and insult me ..

if i dont represent the houston fanbase..how about a poll by the houston fanbase (1000 responses, conducted by the houston beat writer)

edit: i also referenced other games in the year of the 60s..but then said we have a history of beating teams badly, like in 89 were we shamed a lot of teams...

Pesik, you put yourself in here like four times and if the truth is an insult.......


And yes twitter is an excellent measure of people for a poll, put it right up there with csnbbs polls as representative.

Still waiting on you backing up the claim that SMU and Memphis were your protected games?

(06-20-2020 07:05 PM)Foreverandever Wrote:  Pesik, you put yourself in here like four times and if the truth is an insult.......


And yes twitter is an excellent measure of people for a poll, put it right up there with csnbbs polls as representative.

Still waiting on you backing up the claim that SMU and Memphis were your protected games?

1) yes, i posted just talking about general rivalries, not targeted at anyone....being honest i thought the tulsa fan he was referencing was invisible or panic...i didnt realize it was some petty argument till the last few posts

2) this was posted on page 2

oh look pesik was right again...im sure youll forget this like usual...

3) here is a Tulsa beat writer writing for the Tulsa world, who wants Tulsa/houston to be a rivalry..openly admitting that houston doesn't care about Tulsa..that it's a big game for Tulsa, but no one at houston cares..with quotes from houston players

(the article is old ,2010, but it was during the time tulsa was extremely good, 3 10-win seasons in 4 years..it should have been heightened then)
https://www.tulsaworld.com/sportsextra/t...bdfcf.html

Quote:Houston's players, however, don't view this the same way {as a rivalry}.

"We really see them as a Conference USA West opponent," Houston running back Bryce Beall said. "I'm not big in getting into that. They are a little more into it than we are.

"We look at them as another opponent. We see Tulsa just like we see Tulane, UTEP, SMU and Rice. They are another Western opponent."

Pesik spends an awful lot of time trying to say that there is no rivalry. Seems almost like we're under his skin or something.

(06-20-2020 07:31 PM)invisiblehand Wrote:  Pesik spends an awful lot of time trying to say that there is no rivalry. Seems almost like we're under his skin or something.

lol well he did insult me

(06-20-2020 07:42 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(06-20-2020 07:31 PM)invisiblehand Wrote:  Pesik spends an awful lot of time trying to say that there is no rivalry. Seems almost like we're under his skin or something.

lol well he did insult me

In the words of Shakespeare

"The lady doth protest too much, methinks".

I'm not sure if they teach Shakespeare in Houston... Let me explain it to you in terms a cougar can understand...he's kind of like the "Beyonce" of 16th century England.

(06-20-2020 07:57 PM)invisiblehand Wrote:  

(06-20-2020 07:42 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(06-20-2020 07:31 PM)invisiblehand Wrote:  Pesik spends an awful lot of time trying to say that there is no rivalry. Seems almost like we're under his skin or something.

lol well he did insult me

In the words of Shakespeare

"The lady doth protest too much, methinks".

I'm not sure if they teach Shakespeare in Houston... Let me explain it to you in terms a cougar can understand...he's kind of like the "Beyonce" of 16th century England.

Oh, so thats shakespear...thanks for clearing it up

ps i caught what you were trying to do in your first post, we should save that strategy for anyone who argues the aac isnt p6 lol

(06-20-2020 07:57 PM)invisiblehand Wrote:  

(06-20-2020 07:42 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(06-20-2020 07:31 PM)invisiblehand Wrote:  Pesik spends an awful lot of time trying to say that there is no rivalry. Seems almost like we're under his skin or something.

lol well he did insult me

In the words of Shakespeare

"The lady doth protest too much, methinks".

I'm not sure if they teach Shakespeare in Houston... Let me explain it to you in terms a cougar can understand...he's kind of like the "Beyonce" of 16th century England.

“Lord, what fools these mortals be!”

Best potential for a rivalry outside of UCF/USF are: Memphis/Houston, Memphis/Cincinnati, Memphis/UCF, and Memphis/Navy.

There's a recurring theme in there for one of the teams :)

Edit: Also, Memphis/Tulane, Memphis/SMU
Edit2: Men's BB----Memphis/Cincy, Memphis/Houston, Memphis/Wichita State

(06-20-2020 08:37 PM)Memphis Yankee Wrote:  Best potential for a rivalry outside of UCF/USF are: Memphis/Houston, Memphis/Cincinnati, Memphis/UCF, and Memphis/Navy.

There's a recurring theme in there for one of the teams :)

Edit: Also, Memphis/Tulane, Memphis/SMU
Edit2: Men's BB----Memphis/Cincy, Memphis/Houston, Memphis/Wichita State

I wonder why

(06-20-2020 07:05 PM)Foreverandever Wrote:  

(06-20-2020 05:59 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(06-20-2020 05:30 PM)Foreverandever Wrote:  Dude, you have been on this board long enough to know Pesik isn't the only Houston fan, the most representative houston fan, or right very often. Come on, this is even worse than the jed like poll idea, if your best argument is Pesik said so it's not looking real good. You realize that 100-6 game was in the 60s and he just referenced scores from 1989?

The hate started before the 100-6 game, which occurred because they poisoned us. The year before we beat them, knocked them out of the polls and a bowl, when bowl appearences really meant something. It continued after as well, which is why in 2009 the Houston announcer told Graham to stick that in his pipe and smoke it.

i didnt want to get dragged into your debate which at this point seem to have gotten personal... but since you want to drag me in it, and insult me ..

if i dont represent the houston fanbase..how about a poll by the houston fanbase (1000 responses, conducted by the houston beat writer)

edit: i also referenced other games in the year of the 60s..but then said we have a history of beating teams badly, like in 89 were we shamed a lot of teams...

Pesik, you put yourself in here like four times and if the truth is an insult.......


And yes twitter is an excellent measure of people for a poll, put it right up there with csnbbs polls as representative.

Still waiting on you backing up the claim that SMU and Memphis were your protected games?

I don’t know what else you want as a source, you haven’t provided any supporting your point. I don’t see Houston and Tulsa posters constantly arguing over every little thing like UCF and usf fans do. Houston fans just don’t really seem to care that much. You started this by trashing the East for having “no rivalries” when I was simply defending Tulane. I don’t want to continue this argument anymore, nothing gets through to your head. UCF v usf>Houston v Tulsa.

(06-20-2020 08:53 PM)IamYourDad Wrote:  

(06-20-2020 08:37 PM)Memphis Yankee Wrote:  Best potential for a rivalry outside of UCF/USF are: Memphis/Houston, Memphis/Cincinnati, Memphis/UCF, and Memphis/Navy.

There's a recurring theme in there for one of the teams :)

Edit: Also, Memphis/Tulane, Memphis/SMU
Edit2: Men's BB----Memphis/Cincy, Memphis/Houston, Memphis/Wichita State

I wonder why

Expert analysis. Absolutely no bias. I let the numbers speak for themselves.

(06-20-2020 09:24 PM)BraveKnight Wrote:  

(06-20-2020 07:05 PM)Foreverandever Wrote:  

(06-20-2020 05:59 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(06-20-2020 05:30 PM)Foreverandever Wrote:  Dude, you have been on this board long enough to know Pesik isn't the only Houston fan, the most representative houston fan, or right very often. Come on, this is even worse than the jed like poll idea, if your best argument is Pesik said so it's not looking real good. You realize that 100-6 game was in the 60s and he just referenced scores from 1989?

The hate started before the 100-6 game, which occurred because they poisoned us. The year before we beat them, knocked them out of the polls and a bowl, when bowl appearences really meant something. It continued after as well, which is why in 2009 the Houston announcer told Graham to stick that in his pipe and smoke it.

i didnt want to get dragged into your debate which at this point seem to have gotten personal... but since you want to drag me in it, and insult me ..

if i dont represent the houston fanbase..how about a poll by the houston fanbase (1000 responses, conducted by the houston beat writer)

edit: i also referenced other games in the year of the 60s..but then said we have a history of beating teams badly, like in 89 were we shamed a lot of teams...

Pesik, you put yourself in here like four times and if the truth is an insult.......


And yes twitter is an excellent measure of people for a poll, put it right up there with csnbbs polls as representative.

Still waiting on you backing up the claim that SMU and Memphis were your protected games?

I don’t know what else you want as a source, you haven’t provided any supporting your point. I don’t see Houston and Tulsa posters constantly arguing over every little thing like UCF and usf fans do. Houston fans just don’t really seem to care that much. You started this by trashing the East for having “no rivalries” when I was simply defending Tulane. I don’t want to continue this argument anymore, nothing gets through to your head. UCF v usf>Houston v Tulsa.

Everyone get ready for a 3 page response

(06-20-2020 10:27 PM)IamYourDad Wrote:  

(06-20-2020 09:24 PM)BraveKnight Wrote:  

(06-20-2020 07:05 PM)Foreverandever Wrote:  

(06-20-2020 05:59 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(06-20-2020 05:30 PM)Foreverandever Wrote:  Dude, you have been on this board long enough to know Pesik isn't the only Houston fan, the most representative houston fan, or right very often. Come on, this is even worse than the jed like poll idea, if your best argument is Pesik said so it's not looking real good. You realize that 100-6 game was in the 60s and he just referenced scores from 1989?

The hate started before the 100-6 game, which occurred because they poisoned us. The year before we beat them, knocked them out of the polls and a bowl, when bowl appearences really meant something. It continued after as well, which is why in 2009 the Houston announcer told Graham to stick that in his pipe and smoke it.

i didnt want to get dragged into your debate which at this point seem to have gotten personal... but since you want to drag me in it, and insult me ..

if i dont represent the houston fanbase..how about a poll by the houston fanbase (1000 responses, conducted by the houston beat writer)

edit: i also referenced other games in the year of the 60s..but then said we have a history of beating teams badly, like in 89 were we shamed a lot of teams...

Pesik, you put yourself in here like four times and if the truth is an insult.......


And yes twitter is an excellent measure of people for a poll, put it right up there with csnbbs polls as representative.

Still waiting on you backing up the claim that SMU and Memphis were your protected games?

I don’t know what else you want as a source, you haven’t provided any supporting your point. I don’t see Houston and Tulsa posters constantly arguing over every little thing like UCF and usf fans do. Houston fans just don’t really seem to care that much. You started this by trashing the East for having “no rivalries” when I was simply defending Tulane. I don’t want to continue this argument anymore, nothing gets through to your head. UCF v usf>Houston v Tulsa.

Everyone get ready for a 3 page response

Leo Tolstoy would have a hard time keeping up with some of these guys.

Ucf-Usf is not only the biggest rivalry but the only rivalry.

Anything else is non-conf.

(06-20-2020 10:46 PM)Mr Hyde Wrote:  

(06-19-2020 09:22 AM)pesik Wrote:  ..correct me if im wrong but i believe houston has only played tulsa ttwice outside of a conference match up..including the 40years we were in the swc

you might take this is an insult towards tulsa, please dont, just talking realistically..if tulsa and houston arent in the same conference houston likely isnt scheduling tulsa,

Twice may be a little low. Tulsa and Houston have played 20 games when not in the same conference.

Not only that. Tulsa @ Houston was Houston's first televised game ever.

(06-20-2020 09:24 PM)BraveKnight Wrote:  

(06-20-2020 07:05 PM)Foreverandever Wrote:  

(06-20-2020 05:59 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(06-20-2020 05:30 PM)Foreverandever Wrote:  Dude, you have been on this board long enough to know Pesik isn't the only Houston fan, the most representative houston fan, or right very often. Come on, this is even worse than the jed like poll idea, if your best argument is Pesik said so it's not looking real good. You realize that 100-6 game was in the 60s and he just referenced scores from 1989?

The hate started before the 100-6 game, which occurred because they poisoned us. The year before we beat them, knocked them out of the polls and a bowl, when bowl appearences really meant something. It continued after as well, which is why in 2009 the Houston announcer told Graham to stick that in his pipe and smoke it.

i didnt want to get dragged into your debate which at this point seem to have gotten personal... but since you want to drag me in it, and insult me ..

if i dont represent the houston fanbase..how about a poll by the houston fanbase (1000 responses, conducted by the houston beat writer)

edit: i also referenced other games in the year of the 60s..but then said we have a history of beating teams badly, like in 89 were we shamed a lot of teams...

Pesik, you put yourself in here like four times and if the truth is an insult.......


And yes twitter is an excellent measure of people for a poll, put it right up there with csnbbs polls as representative.

Still waiting on you backing up the claim that SMU and Memphis were your protected games?

I don’t know what else you want as a source, you haven’t provided any supporting your point. I don’t see Houston and Tulsa posters constantly arguing over every little thing like UCF and usf fans do. Houston fans just don’t really seem to care that much. You started this by trashing the East for having “no rivalries” when I was simply defending Tulane. I don’t want to continue this argument anymore, nothing gets through to your head. UCF v usf>Houston v Tulsa.

Lol what the hell are Pesik and I doing?

Awwww your feelings got hurt because an anonymous person on the internet talked trash...seriously man?

I'm sorry you don't have a rivalry now that UConn left and you got your feelings hurt I said so

(06-20-2020 10:46 PM)Mr Hyde Wrote:  

(06-19-2020 09:22 AM)pesik Wrote:  ..correct me if im wrong but i believe houston has only played tulsa ttwice outside of a conference match up..including the 40years we were in the swc

you might take this is an insult towards tulsa, please dont, just talking realistically..if tulsa and houston arent in the same conference houston likely isnt scheduling tulsa,

Twice may be a little low. Tulsa and Houston have played 20 games when not in the same conference.

Lol meant since we joined the swc (when we are in different conferences would we use a non conference game on each other), thats why I referenced the swc..most of that 20 houston was indy

And I just counted, a 2-1 with Tulsa Mid swc, and a home And home after the swc had been Publicly dispnaded but not yet disolved / Houston sanctioned.. those are the only games