(06-19-2020 06:25 AM)jedclampett Wrote:  

(06-19-2020 02:10 AM)Foreverandever Wrote:  You started a poll, good job jed

Actually, the person who started the poll is on my "ignore" list at this moment...

...but if you're congratulating me for the poll, I'll take a bow!

How many people are on your ignore list simply for disagreeing with you?

Not sure why I'm even asking, I'm probably on it for suggesting disagreement =/= trolling to you...

(06-19-2020 09:39 PM)Nameless Wrote:  

(06-19-2020 06:25 AM)jedclampett Wrote:  

(06-19-2020 02:10 AM)Foreverandever Wrote:  You started a poll, good job jed

Actually, the person who started the poll is on my "ignore" list at this moment...

...but if you're congratulating me for the poll, I'll take a bow!

How many people are on your ignore list simply for disagreeing with you?

Not sure why I'm even asking, I'm probably on it for suggesting disagreement =/= trolling to you...

I have no idea, anyone who disagrees with him is a “troll” and gets put on his ignore list. At least he stopped making a new thread for every conference realignment thought in his head.

(06-19-2020 07:15 PM)BraveKnight Wrote:  

(06-19-2020 12:35 PM)invisiblehand Wrote:  

(06-19-2020 12:00 PM)Once a Knight... Wrote:  There are long time rivals and rivals the evolve/move on. For example UCF had former rivalries with ECU and Tulsa in the C-USA days but neither has been really a rival in the AAC. I hear many say Tulsa-Houston but to me Houston vs Memphis is the biggest rivalry (in football) in the west division and second largest conference rivalry after UCF vs USF.

Given recent years I would say that UCF vs Memphis is another football rivalry... 4 games in 2 yrs, 3 of which were close and 2 were come from behind wins for UCF. If Memphis and Cincy can meet several years in a row it could become a rivalry too with conference/NY6 implications like it was in 2019. Speaking of Cincy with UCF and Cincy splitting 2018 and 2019, it has the makings of a bidding rivalry.

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It takes more than just a couple games to make a rivalry. Football moves in cycles. The way that USC and Notre Dame play these days you wouldn't assume they were rivals, but back in 2004-2010 you would have said they were bitter foes. The thing that really makes rivalries is a long history of competitive match ups and shared recruiting territory. That's why, as much as I like the history with ECU / UCF that Tulsa has, I wouldn't call them 'rivals' like I would SMU, Houston, or even Navy. We recruit against them much more frequently.

As someone said above, it’s not about just the games played, it’s about the pure hatred between teams/fanbases. Tulsa and Houston don’t hate each other or judge their seasons off of if they beat the other one. UCF-usf is the only nasty rivalry in the conference.

Really???

Lol

I told you before 100-6 no one for Houston or Tulsa has to say anything else.

From 2005 until we left CUSA Houston and Tulsa traded the west division back and forth except for one year where SMU tied us.

That includes a year Houston scored a game winning field goal as time expired and the Houston broadcasting team telling our head coach to stick it in his pipe and smoke it.

Same head coach who when asked about running up the score on Houston said I don't think you can ever score enough on Houston.

Knock someone out of the top ten and a major bowl.

They poisoned us the next year. Let me know when that happens, or people call in threats to your hotel, pull fire alarms.

In fact let me know when anything even remotely like that happens in UCF/USF land.

As I said I realize you have no experience as a program and no history, but 11 games of which exactly one meant something is not a rivalry, just common sense.

(06-20-2020 01:31 AM)Foreverandever Wrote:  

(06-19-2020 07:15 PM)BraveKnight Wrote:  

(06-19-2020 12:35 PM)invisiblehand Wrote:  

(06-19-2020 12:00 PM)Once a Knight... Wrote:  There are long time rivals and rivals the evolve/move on. For example UCF had former rivalries with ECU and Tulsa in the C-USA days but neither has been really a rival in the AAC. I hear many say Tulsa-Houston but to me Houston vs Memphis is the biggest rivalry (in football) in the west division and second largest conference rivalry after UCF vs USF.

Given recent years I would say that UCF vs Memphis is another football rivalry... 4 games in 2 yrs, 3 of which were close and 2 were come from behind wins for UCF. If Memphis and Cincy can meet several years in a row it could become a rivalry too with conference/NY6 implications like it was in 2019. Speaking of Cincy with UCF and Cincy splitting 2018 and 2019, it has the makings of a bidding rivalry.

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It takes more than just a couple games to make a rivalry. Football moves in cycles. The way that USC and Notre Dame play these days you wouldn't assume they were rivals, but back in 2004-2010 you would have said they were bitter foes. The thing that really makes rivalries is a long history of competitive match ups and shared recruiting territory. That's why, as much as I like the history with ECU / UCF that Tulsa has, I wouldn't call them 'rivals' like I would SMU, Houston, or even Navy. We recruit against them much more frequently.

As someone said above, it’s not about just the games played, it’s about the pure hatred between teams/fanbases. Tulsa and Houston don’t hate each other or judge their seasons off of if they beat the other one. UCF-usf is the only nasty rivalry in the conference.

Really???

Lol

I told you before 100-6 no one for Houston or Tulsa has to say anything else.

From 2003 until we left CUSA Houston and Tulsa traded the west division back and forth except for one year where SMU tied us.

That includes a year Houston scored a game winning field goal as time expired and the Houston broadcasting team telling our head coach to stick it in his pipe and smoke it.

Same head coach who when asked about running up the score on Houston said I don't think you can ever score enough on Houston.

Knock someone out of the top ten and a major bowl.

They poisoned us the next year. Let me know when that happens, or people call in threats to your hotel, pull fire alarms.

In fact let me know when anything even remotely like that happens in UCF/USF land.

As I said I realize you have no experience as a program and no history, but 11 games of which exactly one meant something is not a rivalry, just common sense.

UCF has accomplished more in the last 11 years than Tulsa has in its history. Also look at the results of the poll and what people like pesik have to say, barely anyone agrees with you... also Tulsa is the least valuable school in the conference. At least ECU brings a fanbase...

(06-19-2020 07:19 PM)BraveKnight Wrote:  

(06-19-2020 02:10 AM)Foreverandever Wrote:  

(06-19-2020 12:30 AM)BraveKnight Wrote:  

(06-19-2020 12:24 AM)pesik Wrote:  ucf/usf..its not even close.. you guys genuinely hate each other and want to keep playing each other

no one will mention this but ecu/ucf is likely number #2, ecu has gone completely trash in all sports, but ucf vs ecu used to be toxic when both were decent

Tulsa Wichita is likely #3

tulsa houston isnt a thing at all..houstons "maintained" match-ups as we go division-less is memphis and smu

memphis-cincy dont play enough in football--never good at the same time in basketball
houston-smu have never been good at the same time in any sport so not much fuel there
smu/navy is not a rivalry-- its a trophy game . i consider it more a tradition than rivalry

Houston/Navy is constantly put on rivalry week..the conference/network want it to be a rivaly because it draws numbers but its not

houston/cincy in basketball..houston/memphis in football is budding but to young to call it a rivalry

Thank you. I don’t understand how it’s so hard to grasp that UCF usf is really the only nationally relevant rivalry in the conference.

In what world is 11 games even a rivalry?

Go get find your trophy.

You started a poll, good job jed

Thankfully the results show not everyone is as delusional as you.

Geez I wonder why? You 65k students, probably the most posters on this board, likely closely followed by USF.

Thank God no one has ever accused a csnbbs board of being the experts on.....well anything

So again you put up a poll on csnbbs and it actually proves what? That UCF posters have an overinflated opinion of their program and its place? That they get their programs validation from anonymous interwebs? We all already knew that.

How important was that USF/UCF game in 2015 or 2016, was it a big deal last year? Did it matter in 2013? So 90% of your games have been for nothing. I swear some of you pretend like football started in 2015. Get some perspective on the game. It's not by accident that Houston and Tulsa have played more than anyone else and it isn't close.

(06-20-2020 01:36 AM)BraveKnight Wrote:  

(06-20-2020 01:31 AM)Foreverandever Wrote:  

(06-19-2020 07:15 PM)BraveKnight Wrote:  

(06-19-2020 12:35 PM)invisiblehand Wrote:  

(06-19-2020 12:00 PM)Once a Knight... Wrote:  There are long time rivals and rivals the evolve/move on. For example UCF had former rivalries with ECU and Tulsa in the C-USA days but neither has been really a rival in the AAC. I hear many say Tulsa-Houston but to me Houston vs Memphis is the biggest rivalry (in football) in the west division and second largest conference rivalry after UCF vs USF.

Given recent years I would say that UCF vs Memphis is another football rivalry... 4 games in 2 yrs, 3 of which were close and 2 were come from behind wins for UCF. If Memphis and Cincy can meet several years in a row it could become a rivalry too with conference/NY6 implications like it was in 2019. Speaking of Cincy with UCF and Cincy splitting 2018 and 2019, it has the makings of a bidding rivalry.

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It takes more than just a couple games to make a rivalry. Football moves in cycles. The way that USC and Notre Dame play these days you wouldn't assume they were rivals, but back in 2004-2010 you would have said they were bitter foes. The thing that really makes rivalries is a long history of competitive match ups and shared recruiting territory. That's why, as much as I like the history with ECU / UCF that Tulsa has, I wouldn't call them 'rivals' like I would SMU, Houston, or even Navy. We recruit against them much more frequently.

As someone said above, it’s not about just the games played, it’s about the pure hatred between teams/fanbases. Tulsa and Houston don’t hate each other or judge their seasons off of if they beat the other one. UCF-usf is the only nasty rivalry in the conference.

Really???

Lol

I told you before 100-6 no one for Houston or Tulsa has to say anything else.

From 2003 until we left CUSA Houston and Tulsa traded the west division back and forth except for one year where SMU tied us.

That includes a year Houston scored a game winning field goal as time expired and the Houston broadcasting team telling our head coach to stick it in his pipe and smoke it.

Same head coach who when asked about running up the score on Houston said I don't think you can ever score enough on Houston.

Knock someone out of the top ten and a major bowl.

They poisoned us the next year. Let me know when that happens, or people call in threats to your hotel, pull fire alarms.

In fact let me know when anything even remotely like that happens in UCF/USF land.

As I said I realize you have no experience as a program and no history, but 11 games of which exactly one meant something is not a rivalry, just common sense.

UCF has accomplished more in the last 11 years than Tulsa has in its history. Also look at the results of the poll and what people like pesik have to say, barely anyone agrees with you... also Tulsa is the least valuable school in the conference. At least ECU brings a fanbase...

Bwahaha

Dude, we did what you did 80 years ago. Hell we have offensive records in the NCAA from this decade. We own you all on the field. We own you in conference championships. Meanwhile your school is 16x bigger and you have put your whole athletic department into debt while living off student fees so you still could lose to us.

I know it hurts. It's ok, get something for that chapped ass and you'll be fine.

Where is your Orange and Sugar bowls? How many Hall.of Fame players do you have?

Someone please correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't UCF get shafted during one of the Big East expansions by Judy Genshaft at USF? Just another wrinkle to consider.

I'm learning a bit about the Houston-Tulsa history in reading this, so I'm not going to act like an expert. One thing I'll say is that rivalries do fade, as well as gain momentum. The War on I-4 just feels like a bigger rivalry to me; whether or not that is actually due to one rivalry fading and another gaining momentum, idk.

I probably would've put the TU-WSU hoops rivalry before TU-Houston before reading this thread. But now? Teh rivalry is #2 for me, and closer to 1 than I initially had it.

(06-20-2020 04:41 AM)Nameless Wrote:  Someone please correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't UCF get shafted during one of the Big East expansions by Judy Genshaft at USF? Just another wrinkle to consider.

I'm learning a bit about the Houston-Tulsa history in reading this, so I'm not going to act like an expert. One thing I'll say is that rivalries do fade, as well as gain momentum. The War on I-4 just feels like a bigger rivalry to me; whether or not that is actually due to one rivalry fading and another gaining momentum, idk.

I probably would've put the TU-WSU hoops rivalry before TU-Houston before reading this thread. But now? Teh rivalry is #2 for me, and closer to 1 than I initially had it.

We did. They blocked us from ever getting in the old Big East. They had way more money and resources and racked up wins against us. Makes my blood boil when they say “we lead the all time series”. Can’t wait to destroy the MJ this year and take away their last string of hope

(06-20-2020 01:47 AM)Foreverandever Wrote:  

(06-20-2020 01:36 AM)BraveKnight Wrote:  

(06-20-2020 01:31 AM)Foreverandever Wrote:  

(06-19-2020 07:15 PM)BraveKnight Wrote:  

(06-19-2020 12:35 PM)invisiblehand Wrote:  It takes more than just a couple games to make a rivalry. Football moves in cycles. The way that USC and Notre Dame play these days you wouldn't assume they were rivals, but back in 2004-2010 you would have said they were bitter foes. The thing that really makes rivalries is a long history of competitive match ups and shared recruiting territory. That's why, as much as I like the history with ECU / UCF that Tulsa has, I wouldn't call them 'rivals' like I would SMU, Houston, or even Navy. We recruit against them much more frequently.

As someone said above, it’s not about just the games played, it’s about the pure hatred between teams/fanbases. Tulsa and Houston don’t hate each other or judge their seasons off of if they beat the other one. UCF-usf is the only nasty rivalry in the conference.

Really???

Lol

I told you before 100-6 no one for Houston or Tulsa has to say anything else.

From 2003 until we left CUSA Houston and Tulsa traded the west division back and forth except for one year where SMU tied us.

That includes a year Houston scored a game winning field goal as time expired and the Houston broadcasting team telling our head coach to stick it in his pipe and smoke it.

Same head coach who when asked about running up the score on Houston said I don't think you can ever score enough on Houston.

Knock someone out of the top ten and a major bowl.

They poisoned us the next year. Let me know when that happens, or people call in threats to your hotel, pull fire alarms.

In fact let me know when anything even remotely like that happens in UCF/USF land.

As I said I realize you have no experience as a program and no history, but 11 games of which exactly one meant something is not a rivalry, just common sense.

UCF has accomplished more in the last 11 years than Tulsa has in its history. Also look at the results of the poll and what people like pesik have to say, barely anyone agrees with you... also Tulsa is the least valuable school in the conference. At least ECU brings a fanbase...

Bwahaha

Dude, we did what you did 80 years ago. Hell we have offensive records in the NCAA from this decade. We own you all on the field. We own you in conference championships. Meanwhile your school is 16x bigger and you have put your whole athletic department into debt while living off student fees so you still could lose to us.

I know it hurts. It's ok, get something for that chapped ass and you'll be fine.

Where is your Orange and Sugar bowls? How many Hall.of Fame players do you have?

Dude we get it, you hate us. Tulsa is by far the most valuable member of this conference. Your records and historic rivalries are legendary. Comparing you guys to us is like comparing Alabama to Middle Tennessee. I’m so sorry about the other UCF fans. With that being said, shut up already. People are just waking up and will have to read your bs

(06-20-2020 04:41 AM)Nameless Wrote:  Someone please correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't UCF get shafted during one of the Big East expansions by Judy Genshaft at USF? Just another wrinkle to consider.

I'm learning a bit about the Houston-Tulsa history in reading this, so I'm not going to act like an expert. One thing I'll say is that rivalries do fade, as well as gain momentum. The War on I-4 just feels like a bigger rivalry to me; whether or not that is actually due to one rivalry fading and another gaining momentum, idk.

I probably would've put the TU-WSU hoops rivalry before TU-Houston before reading this thread. But now? Teh rivalry is #2 for me, and closer to 1 than I initially had it.

Thread to the smack talk board countdown begins...

USFFan

(06-19-2020 08:14 PM)Fighting Muskie Wrote:  UCF vs USF wins hands down. I’d like the see the Cincinnati vs Memphis gain some intensity. UCF also has a decent rivalry with ECU.

It would be nice to see SMU vs Houston but this is a tricky one because despite the fact that they haven’t shared a conference since 2000, the Mustangs consider their biggest rival to be TCU.

The private schools need to get something going. Green Wave vs Golden Hurricane—can we create a Perfect Storm Trophy or something?

Navy vs SMU is a joke rivalry like the Civil Conflict—one side wants it to be a rivalry. Navy is just too polite to tell them they don’t care about the game or the trophy.

Proximity to could build a rivalry between Navy and Temple. The largest US wooden warship was the USS Pennsylvania—they could exchange a replica of the ship or something.

I know the institution likes the Gansz Trophy rivalry. I can only truly speak for myself amongst the fanbase, but I dig it. SMU is our second most played AAC opponent, behind Tulane.
The online grassroots Navy-Tulane Trident Trophy thing exists - it will be so fetch.
Navy fans in general have enjoyed the West Division matchups with Houston and Memphis also. I've seen the Brigade storm the field at NMCMS thrice - two were AF and actually the first was beating ranked Houston. That's the biggest thing probably for Navy fans - eight more games that are MEANINGFUL, including in late November. The biggest AAC rivalry we develop is still stuck at #4 for us, unfortunately, but it is good that there is something on the line and talk of playing our way into the NY6 bowl.

If I were going to manufacture a rivalry with an "East Division" team, it would be ECU. Others may disagree but Navy vs Pirates is a classic theme. And we already do Philadelphia for a thing almost every year.

(06-19-2020 12:30 AM)BraveKnight Wrote:  

(06-19-2020 12:24 AM)pesik Wrote:  ucf/usf..its not even close.. you guys genuinely hate each other and want to keep playing each other

no one will mention this but ecu/ucf is likely number #2, ecu has gone completely trash in all sports, but ucf vs ecu used to be toxic when both were decent

Tulsa Wichita is likely #3

tulsa houston isnt a thing at all..houstons "maintained" match-ups as we go division-less is memphis and smu

memphis-cincy dont play enough in football--never good at the same time in basketball
houston-smu have never been good at the same time in any sport so not much fuel there
smu/navy is not a rivalry-- its a trophy game . i consider it more a tradition than rivalry

Houston/Navy is constantly put on rivalry week..the conference/network want it to be a rivaly because it draws numbers but its not

houston/cincy in basketball..houston/memphis in football is budding but to young to call it a rivalry

Thank you. I don’t understand how it’s so hard to grasp that UCF usf is really the only nationally relevant rivalry in the conference.

Tulane vs Houston has potential... Tulane needs to "pound" Houston a few more years in a row for it to develop.

Wouldn't mind Temple vs Cincinnati and Temple vs ECU would love to see those 2 develop.

Outside of UCF vs USF there really are no revelries... Memphis vs UCF getting started, both teams need to stay on top for it to develop.

Cincinnati vs UCF getting started, again, both teams need to stay on top for it to develop.

ECU vs UCF was a thing, but ECU dropped off, both teams need to to win at the same time for it to develop again.

These exist because of what UCF has accomplished in The AMERICAN.

(06-20-2020 10:05 AM)GoOwls111 Wrote:  Outside of UCF vs USF there really are no revelries... Memphis vs UCF getting started, both teams need to stay on top for it to develop.

Cincinnati vs UCF getting started, again, both teams need to stay on top for it to develop.

ECU vs UCF was a thing, but ECU dropped off, both teams need to to win at the same time for it to develop again.

These exist because of what UCF has accomplished in The AMERICAN.

I'm interested to hear your guys opinion on this. What exactly constitutes a rivalry? In my opinion there needs to be some sort of dislike for the opposing team. Playing a close game with somebody doesn't automatically make it a rivalry. Penn State and Ohio State don't automatically have a rivalry because they played a close game, that's just a good game. I don't feel anything for Memphis and Cincy as a UCF fan. I root for them whenever they play the P5. Meanwhile I genuinely want USF to lose every game they ever play, even if it hurts our perception a bit. More needs to happen than just two good teams playing each other, because if that was the case every team would have like 7 rivals

(06-20-2020 10:42 AM)IamYourDad Wrote:  

(06-20-2020 10:05 AM)GoOwls111 Wrote:  Outside of UCF vs USF there really are no revelries... Memphis vs UCF getting started, both teams need to stay on top for it to develop.

Cincinnati vs UCF getting started, again, both teams need to stay on top for it to develop.

ECU vs UCF was a thing, but ECU dropped off, both teams need to to win at the same time for it to develop again.

These exist because of what UCF has accomplished in The AMERICAN.

I'm interested to hear your guys opinion on this. What exactly constitutes a rivalry? In my opinion there needs to be some sort of dislike for the opposing team. Playing a close game with somebody doesn't automatically make it a rivalry. Penn State and Ohio State don't automatically have a rivalry because they played a close game, that's just a good game. I don't feel anything for Memphis and Cincy as a UCF fan. I root for them whenever they play the P5. Meanwhile I genuinely want USF to lose every game they ever play, even if it hurts our perception a bit. More needs to happen than just two good teams playing each other, because if that was the case every team would have like 7 rivals

Memphis/Louisville was the biggest rivalry for us. They should have never split us apart.

I remember a Sheraton commercial where they had some tag line, Can we all get along (I'm paraphrasing). They had a Duke guy helping a North Carolina guy, and a Louisville guy helping a Memphis guy. Maybe I can find it on youtube.

The hate we had for each other was thick. I was at a game once where Memphis fans were throwing **** at Denny Crum. The Mid-South Coliseum went nuts whenever Louisville was in town. That was a rivalry.

(06-20-2020 04:41 AM)Nameless Wrote:  I probably would've put the TU-WSU hoops rivalry before TU-Houston before reading this thread. But now? Teh rivalry is #2 for me, and closer to 1 than I initially had it.

i cant tell if this is joke or not..if your joking its fine then..if you are serious its not a rivalry..rivalries have to be both ways ..houston doesnt consider tulsa a rival

houston permanent matchup is smu and memphis..the schools and conference decided to preserve memphis/houston..a game thats only been played about 7 years over tulsa..that should be all you need to know

here is a poll by 1000 houston fans on who they want to keep playing in the west, smu was a given so they arent in the poll..tulsa was in last place by a comfortable margin
https://twitter.com/Joseph_Duarte/status...5403632641

you realize Teh rivalry is joke we made based on that premise...the fuel behind tulsa side is that we embarrassed them in a 100-6 game. houston embarrassed Tulsa, so you get why Tulsa is mad, houston perspective houston just crushed a team, why would we consider them a rival..houston crushed everyone during those years..that same year we beat tulane, cincy and idaho by 50+..there are atleast 30 teams houston has put embarrassing scores on (in 89 alone 95-21 vs smu, 66-10 vs baylor, 69-0 unlv, 65-7 temple, 55-10 tcu, 64-0 rice, 47-9 texas)

(06-20-2020 10:42 AM)IamYourDad Wrote:  

(06-20-2020 10:05 AM)GoOwls111 Wrote:  Outside of UCF vs USF there really are no revelries... Memphis vs UCF getting started, both teams need to stay on top for it to develop.

Cincinnati vs UCF getting started, again, both teams need to stay on top for it to develop.

ECU vs UCF was a thing, but ECU dropped off, both teams need to to win at the same time for it to develop again.

These exist because of what UCF has accomplished in The AMERICAN.

I'm interested to hear your guys opinion on this. What exactly constitutes a rivalry? In my opinion there needs to be some sort of dislike for the opposing team. Playing a close game with somebody doesn't automatically make it a rivalry. Penn State and Ohio State don't automatically have a rivalry because they played a close game, that's just a good game. I don't feel anything for Memphis and Cincy as a UCF fan. I root for them whenever they play the P5. Meanwhile I genuinely want USF to lose every game they ever play, even if it hurts our perception a bit. More needs to happen than just two good teams playing each other, because if that was the case every team would have like 7 rivals

i think rivalries can be built in more than 1 way...there are natural rivals like ucf and usf that are just automatic needs no parameters (other examples with new teams, fiu-fau, ga state-ga southern) teams that will always be tied together/compared, even if not a single game is played

built rivalries have alot of parameters in my opinion-

- must be acknowledged by both sides: houston fans deeply hate UT, and roots for their misery..huge parts of UH history is based around battles with UT (the story behind the UH paw/hand sign as a example)--it is not a rivalry, they dont acknowledge it and have no interest in playing houston

- a dislike for that team or the strong desire to not lose to that team - you could be horrible but even still losing to them is unacceptable

- must have games of impact- where both teams are good, where your team losing would be soul crushing and the other team gains an advantage over yours by winning (with both sides occasionally getting wins)...IMO this is what houston vs smu/tulsa doesnt have..tulsa only beats houston when houston is having a down or subpar year, where we dont care. houston and smu are never good the same year in football/basketball

- Continuous play till it is established/long history this is the reason i dont put that much value in Memphis vs Cincy, UCF vs Cincy, Houston vs Memphis..if those teams didnt play for 4/5 years (or one became a bottom feeder), would there be some rallying call for them to play? would the fanbases still hate each other?.. if we are honest with ourselves, we'd all just move on and stop caring about those games

there has to be enough years and history that even breaks wouldn't reduce the hatred and desire to play

if we go back to 2014- there was probably not a conference member Houston fans HATED more than UCF. and you could argue a budding rivalry (the greg ward game winning fumble. okorn (houston qb) and ucf fans trash talking each other in game-that spilled to social media, the 4th down goal line stand. constant debates about who was the most valuable team in the conference).. first ucf got horrible, then because of divisions didnt play for a few years..UCF/Houston havent had a meaningful game in about 5 seasons..today houston/ucf are impartial towards each other

(06-20-2020 11:42 AM)pesik Wrote:  

(06-20-2020 04:41 AM)Nameless Wrote:  I probably would've put the TU-WSU hoops rivalry before TU-Houston before reading this thread. But now? Teh rivalry is #2 for me, and closer to 1 than I initially had it.

i cant tell if this is joke or not..if your joking its fine then..if you are serious its not a rivalry..rivalries have to be both ways ..houston doesnt consider tulsa a rival

houston permanent matchup is smu and memphis..the schools and conference decided to preserve memphis/houston..a game thats only been played about 7 years over tulsa..that should be all you need to know

here is a poll by 1000 houston fans on who they want to keep playing in the west, smu was a given so they arent in the poll..tulsa was in last place by a comfortable margin
https://twitter.com/Joseph_Duarte/status...5403632641

you realize Teh rivalry is joke we made based on that premise...the fuel behind tulsa side is that we embarrassed them in a 100-6 game. houston embarrassed Tulsa, so you get why Tulsa is mad, houston perspective houston just crushed a team, why would we consider them a rival..houston crushed everyone during those years..that same year we beat tulane, cincy and idaho by 50+..there are atleast 30 teams houston has put embarrassing scores on (in 89 alone 95-21 vs smu, 66-10 vs baylor, 69-0 unlv, 65-7 temple, 55-10 tcu, 64-0 rice, 47-9 texas)

@Foreverandever lol, your “rival” doesn’t even care about you.

(06-20-2020 11:42 AM)pesik Wrote:  

(06-20-2020 04:41 AM)Nameless Wrote:  I probably would've put the TU-WSU hoops rivalry before TU-Houston before reading this thread. But now? Teh rivalry is #2 for me, and closer to 1 than I initially had it.

i cant tell if this is joke or not..if your joking its fine then..if you are serious its not a rivalry..rivalries have to be both ways ..houston doesnt consider tulsa a rival

houston permanent matchup is smu and memphis..the schools and conference decided to preserve memphis/houston..a game thats only been played about 7 years over tulsa..that should be all you need to know

here is a poll by 1000 houston fans on who they want to keep playing in the west, smu was a given so they arent in the poll..tulsa was in last place by a comfortable margin
https://twitter.com/Joseph_Duarte/status...5403632641

you realize Teh rivalry is joke we made based on that premise...the fuel behind tulsa side is that we embarrassed them in a 100-6 game. houston embarrassed Tulsa, so you get why Tulsa is mad, houston perspective houston just crushed a team, why would we consider them a rival..houston crushed everyone during those years..that same year we beat tulane, cincy and idaho by 50+..there are atleast 30 teams houston has put embarrassing scores on (in 89 alone 95-21 vs smu, 66-10 vs baylor, 69-0 unlv, 65-7 temple, 55-10 tcu, 64-0 rice, 47-9 texas)

The fuel is also the fact that we beat you handily during your opener in the Astro Dome.

It's also T 56- H7 in 2007, H 70 - T 30 2008, #13 H 46 - T 45 2009, T 28 - H 25 2010, and a defacto western division championship matchup in 2011.

(06-20-2020 04:08 PM)BraveKnight Wrote:  

(06-20-2020 11:42 AM)pesik Wrote:  

(06-20-2020 04:41 AM)Nameless Wrote:  I probably would've put the TU-WSU hoops rivalry before TU-Houston before reading this thread. But now? Teh rivalry is #2 for me, and closer to 1 than I initially had it.

i cant tell if this is joke or not..if your joking its fine then..if you are serious its not a rivalry..rivalries have to be both ways ..houston doesnt consider tulsa a rival

houston permanent matchup is smu and memphis..the schools and conference decided to preserve memphis/houston..a game thats only been played about 7 years over tulsa..that should be all you need to know

here is a poll by 1000 houston fans on who they want to keep playing in the west, smu was a given so they arent in the poll..tulsa was in last place by a comfortable margin
https://twitter.com/Joseph_Duarte/status...5403632641

you realize Teh rivalry is joke we made based on that premise...the fuel behind tulsa side is that we embarrassed them in a 100-6 game. houston embarrassed Tulsa, so you get why Tulsa is mad, houston perspective houston just crushed a team, why would we consider them a rival..houston crushed everyone during those years..that same year we beat tulane, cincy and idaho by 50+..there are atleast 30 teams houston has put embarrassing scores on (in 89 alone 95-21 vs smu, 66-10 vs baylor, 69-0 unlv, 65-7 temple, 55-10 tcu, 64-0 rice, 47-9 texas)

@Foreverandever lol, your “rival” doesn’t even care about you.

This isn't true. They love running up the score on us and trying to get even when we run the score up on them. They are out to score more points against Tulsa than any other team they play in any given season, but overall the series remains competitive.

Pesik can talk about not caring about us all he wants but the proof is in the history.