(06-12-2020 12:09 PM)inutech Wrote:  

(06-12-2020 08:47 AM)panama Wrote:  The Texas schools and the Eastern Schools come to mind.

I'm sure most CUSA schools would love to join the AAC. Or a P5 conference.

But a Texas school in CUSA-W is already in a division with 3 other Texas schools, nearby Tech, and USM and UAB. A SB merger maybe trades out UAB and USM for the ULX twins or something (or one ULX twin plus TXST or whatever). Is that something we're supposed to think they're drooling about? Gonna save ALL that gas money?

This is all sort of like arguing about whether 2020 realignment is "dead" or not. It's all semantics. It's dead (or resolved or over or whatever) in the sense that it's been pretty publicly shot down (and wasn't really all that well substantiated to begin with).

But sure, in the sense that nothing's impossible and message boards aren't letting it go anytime soon and ADs or coaches or boosters are always going to sit around and speculate about this kind of thing in private - fine - alive and well. If that's your line. Yes, people will never stop regrouping NCAA conferences in their minds. For sure. Personally, I think it's pretty dumb that Rutgers and Maryland are in the Big Ten, and that they're called the Big Ten, and that the Big 12 has ten teams, and that CUSA has 14 teams etc.

There is little most schools can do functionally to solve their problems. The main problem most of us have is that our fans could care less about our hosting a school from 1000 or 1500 miles away. Conference realignment just isn't going to work to solve that problem for everyone. The best most of us can hope for is an OOC schedule of regional schools and to be in a conference where a majority of our conference games are "regional" so that there is some interest.

I am for instance happy that we finally have UAB and GT on our schedule. From a geography and familiarity aspect it makes sense.

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(06-12-2020 12:25 PM)panama Wrote:  

(06-12-2020 11:02 AM)benny_t Wrote:  

(06-12-2020 10:09 AM)FIU4Ever Wrote:  

(06-12-2020 10:05 AM)panama Wrote:  

(06-12-2020 10:00 AM)FIU4Ever Wrote:  So again, nothing to base this on except speculation. But trust you, it is happening!

Having a bad day? LOL.



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Having a great morning so far actually. A late breakfast on the deck, watching my wife's recently planted lemon tree blossom.

But to get back to you input in all of this, why should we believe speculation over facts?

Careful FIU4ever, he might just block you. Then again if he blocks enough people on our board what is the point in coming over here anyway.

I blocks clt because every time I post he comes up with idiocy unrelated to the topic. He's a troll. Same wit TrueBlueDrew who gives GA Southern fans a bad name. All he does is look for our posts here and elsewhere to try and "discredit" them. I should have blocked him five years ago. To answer his moron post, land west of Capital Avenue is owned by the Georgia BOR and the GSU Foundation. Land east of Capital Avenue is owned by Carter. The student apartments are east of Capital. I could get into another weeks long tit for tat discussion with him but why bother since his sole goal just like clt is trolling.

And for your information I have been posting here since 2009. I post when a subject interests me. It's that simple. But I HAVE gotten too old to go back and forth with morons posting from Mama's basement.

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He is not a troll that is his schtick. He does it in every post on every topic. It’s nothing personal against you, your school, or your conference.

(06-12-2020 11:02 AM)benny_t Wrote:  

(06-12-2020 10:09 AM)FIU4Ever Wrote:  

(06-12-2020 10:05 AM)panama Wrote:  

(06-12-2020 10:00 AM)FIU4Ever Wrote:  

(06-12-2020 09:54 AM)panama Wrote:  Historical fact is that there are always conversations going on. It's not a stretch to believe that individual schools are evaluating there situation.

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So again, nothing to base this on except speculation. But trust you, it is happening!

Having a bad day? LOL.



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Having a great morning so far actually. A late breakfast on the deck, watching my wife's recently planted lemon tree blossom.

But to get back to you input in all of this, why should we believe speculation over facts?

Careful FIU4ever, he might just block you. Then again if he blocks enough people on our board what is the point in coming over here anyway.

Ha ha, I know.

(06-12-2020 09:48 AM)FIU4Ever Wrote:  Fact: CUSA ADs and officials have said no conversations have happened with respect to realignment.

Opinion: They are having super secret meetings discussing alignment that no one knows about, but those meetings are happening!

Yeah, let's roll with opinion because that always beats facts. Y'all are asking us to throw out what was said by the AD but not giving anything substantive with the expectations that your opinion should be believed. Throwing out "it's super secret therefore no concrete evidence but it is happening" gets old quickly.

FACT: When it comes to realignment ADs lie to the public because they have to. You see it every time: schools are always "100% committed" to their current conference until they're out the door.

Not saying these particular ADs are lying (they very well may be telling the truth) but that's how it goes down. Deny, deny, deny until it's time to confirm.

(06-12-2020 12:09 PM)inutech Wrote:  

(06-12-2020 08:47 AM)panama Wrote:  The Texas schools and the Eastern Schools come to mind.

I'm sure most CUSA schools would love to join the AAC. Or a P5 conference.

But a Texas school in CUSA-W is already in a division with 3 other Texas schools, nearby Tech, and USM and UAB. A SB merger maybe trades out UAB and USM for the ULX twins or something (or one ULX twin plus TXST or whatever). Is that something we're supposed to think they're drooling about? Gonna save ALL that gas money?

This is all sort of like arguing about whether 2020 realignment is "dead" or not. It's all semantics. It's dead (or resolved or over or whatever) in the sense that it's been pretty publicly shot down (and wasn't really all that well substantiated to begin with).

But sure, in the sense that nothing's impossible and message boards aren't letting it go anytime soon and ADs or coaches or boosters are always going to sit around and speculate about this kind of thing in private - fine - alive and well. If that's your line. Yes, people will never stop regrouping NCAA conferences in their minds. For sure. Personally, I think it's pretty dumb that Rutgers and Maryland are in the Big Ten, and that they're called the Big Ten, and that the Big 12 has ten teams, and that CUSA has 14 teams etc.

Agree 100% inutech. I actually love some of these hot takes that fly around this board because it can be entertaining and you get others perspective. I generally have a problem with folks who can't differentiate between facts and wishful thinking.

(06-12-2020 12:30 PM)panama Wrote:  

(06-12-2020 12:09 PM)inutech Wrote:  

(06-12-2020 08:47 AM)panama Wrote:  The Texas schools and the Eastern Schools come to mind.

I'm sure most CUSA schools would love to join the AAC. Or a P5 conference.

But a Texas school in CUSA-W is already in a division with 3 other Texas schools, nearby Tech, and USM and UAB. A SB merger maybe trades out UAB and USM for the ULX twins or something (or one ULX twin plus TXST or whatever). Is that something we're supposed to think they're drooling about? Gonna save ALL that gas money?

This is all sort of like arguing about whether 2020 realignment is "dead" or not. It's all semantics. It's dead (or resolved or over or whatever) in the sense that it's been pretty publicly shot down (and wasn't really all that well substantiated to begin with).

But sure, in the sense that nothing's impossible and message boards aren't letting it go anytime soon and ADs or coaches or boosters are always going to sit around and speculate about this kind of thing in private - fine - alive and well. If that's your line. Yes, people will never stop regrouping NCAA conferences in their minds. For sure. Personally, I think it's pretty dumb that Rutgers and Maryland are in the Big Ten, and that they're called the Big Ten, and that the Big 12 has ten teams, and that CUSA has 14 teams etc.

There is little most schools can do functionally to solve their problems. The main problem most of us have is that our fans could care less about our hosting a school from 1000 or 1500 miles away. Conference realignment just isn't going to work to solve that problem for everyone. The best most of us can hope for is an OOC schedule of regional schools and to be in a conference where a majority of our conference games are "regional" so that there is some interest.

I am for instance happy that we finally have UAB and GT on our schedule. From a geography and familiarity aspect it makes sense.

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I guess I don't see why we need realignment or scheduling agreements to accomplish any of that.

My team is in a conference with lots of "regional" games and many (not all) of our OCC games would also be considered that way.

(06-12-2020 12:32 PM)APPdiesel Wrote:  

(06-12-2020 09:48 AM)FIU4Ever Wrote:  Fact: CUSA ADs and officials have said no conversations have happened with respect to realignment.

Opinion: They are having super secret meetings discussing alignment that no one knows about, but those meetings are happening!

Yeah, let's roll with opinion because that always beats facts. Y'all are asking us to throw out what was said by the AD but not giving anything substantive with the expectations that your opinion should be believed. Throwing out "it's super secret therefore no concrete evidence but it is happening" gets old quickly.

FACT: When it comes to realignment ADs lie to the public because they have to. You see it every time: schools are always "100% committed" to their current conference until they're out the door.

Not saying these particular ADs are lying (they very well may be telling the truth) but that's how it goes down. Deny, deny, deny until it's time to confirm.

If you say ADs lie about realignment is factual, then you are saying these specific ADs are lying.

You guys are a joke, if the AD says nothing, it means there is smoke otherwise they would deny it. If the AD says denies it, then don't believe them. So who should the fanbase listen to? A bunch of nobodies with no connections from the sunbelt because realignment gives them a hard on?

(06-12-2020 12:31 PM)UAB Schnauzer Wrote:  

(06-12-2020 12:25 PM)panama Wrote:  

(06-12-2020 11:02 AM)benny_t Wrote:  

(06-12-2020 10:09 AM)FIU4Ever Wrote:  

(06-12-2020 10:05 AM)panama Wrote:  Having a bad day? LOL.



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Having a great morning so far actually. A late breakfast on the deck, watching my wife's recently planted lemon tree blossom.

But to get back to you input in all of this, why should we believe speculation over facts?

Careful FIU4ever, he might just block you. Then again if he blocks enough people on our board what is the point in coming over here anyway.

I blocks clt because every time I post he comes up with idiocy unrelated to the topic. He's a troll. Same wit TrueBlueDrew who gives GA Southern fans a bad name. All he does is look for our posts here and elsewhere to try and "discredit" them. I should have blocked him five years ago. To answer his moron post, land west of Capital Avenue is owned by the Georgia BOR and the GSU Foundation. Land east of Capital Avenue is owned by Carter. The student apartments are east of Capital. I could get into another weeks long tit for tat discussion with him but why bother since his sole goal just like clt is trolling.

And for your information I have been posting here since 2009. I post when a subject interests me. It's that simple. But I HAVE gotten too old to go back and forth with morons posting from Mama's basement.

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He is not a troll that is his schtick. He does it in every post on every topic. It’s nothing personal against you, your school, or your conference.

More importantly, this is his home board, not yours. You are the visitor, not clt.

(06-12-2020 12:32 PM)APPdiesel Wrote:  

(06-12-2020 09:48 AM)FIU4Ever Wrote:  Fact: CUSA ADs and officials have said no conversations have happened with respect to realignment.

Opinion: They are having super secret meetings discussing alignment that no one knows about, but those meetings are happening!

Yeah, let's roll with opinion because that always beats facts. Y'all are asking us to throw out what was said by the AD but not giving anything substantive with the expectations that your opinion should be believed. Throwing out "it's super secret therefore no concrete evidence but it is happening" gets old quickly.

FACT: When it comes to realignment ADs lie to the public because they have to. You see it every time: schools are always "100% committed" to their current conference until they're out the door.

Not saying these particular ADs are lying (they very well may be telling the truth) but that's how it goes down. Deny, deny, deny until it's time to confirm.

And key here also is that school's particular situation. If your school is "current conference for life" and unable to move but other schools your fan base and alumni does not see as peers want to talk...yeah I would be saying no interest, no no no all day.

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(06-12-2020 12:42 PM)FIU4Ever Wrote:  

(06-12-2020 12:32 PM)APPdiesel Wrote:  

(06-12-2020 09:48 AM)FIU4Ever Wrote:  Fact: CUSA ADs and officials have said no conversations have happened with respect to realignment.

Opinion: They are having super secret meetings discussing alignment that no one knows about, but those meetings are happening!

Yeah, let's roll with opinion because that always beats facts. Y'all are asking us to throw out what was said by the AD but not giving anything substantive with the expectations that your opinion should be believed. Throwing out "it's super secret therefore no concrete evidence but it is happening" gets old quickly.

FACT: When it comes to realignment ADs lie to the public because they have to. You see it every time: schools are always "100% committed" to their current conference until they're out the door.

Not saying these particular ADs are lying (they very well may be telling the truth) but that's how it goes down. Deny, deny, deny until it's time to confirm.

If you say ADs lie about realignment is factual, then you are saying these specific ADs are lying.

You guys are a joke, if the AD says nothing, it means there is smoke otherwise they would deny it. If the AD says denies it, then don't believe them. So who should the fanbase listen to? A bunch of nobodies with no connections from the sunbelt because realignment gives them a hard on?

Well, to be fair, he did say that they're not necessarily lying in this case.

And there are lots of examples of ADs denying that they're leaving right up until they're gone.

But I also agree with you that if you're rooting for this to happen there really isn't much (other than time) that's probably going to convince you otherwise.

I imagine the internet is full of very convinced (and sometimes very convincing) arguments about exactly how conference realignment is going to go from the last 20 years that would pretty amusing to read now.

(06-12-2020 12:42 PM)FIU4Ever Wrote:  

(06-12-2020 12:32 PM)APPdiesel Wrote:  

(06-12-2020 09:48 AM)FIU4Ever Wrote:  Fact: CUSA ADs and officials have said no conversations have happened with respect to realignment.

Opinion: They are having super secret meetings discussing alignment that no one knows about, but those meetings are happening!

Yeah, let's roll with opinion because that always beats facts. Y'all are asking us to throw out what was said by the AD but not giving anything substantive with the expectations that your opinion should be believed. Throwing out "it's super secret therefore no concrete evidence but it is happening" gets old quickly.

FACT: When it comes to realignment ADs lie to the public because they have to. You see it every time: schools are always "100% committed" to their current conference until they're out the door.

Not saying these particular ADs are lying (they very well may be telling the truth) but that's how it goes down. Deny, deny, deny until it's time to confirm.

If you say ADs lie about realignment is factual, then you are saying these specific ADs are lying.

You guys are a joke, if the AD says nothing, it means there is smoke otherwise they would deny it. If the AD says denies it, then don't believe them. So who should the fanbase listen to? A bunch of nobodies with no connections from the sunbelt because realignment gives them a hard on?

You...you think we want realign with YOU? You think that's why SBC fans are posting here?!?

LMAO LOUD

So there is this world wide pandemic and most of us have seen The Office three times and there is literally nothing else to do. And there are quite a few people on CSNbbs who are pretty well connected to their individual schools and many have been through this before which is how they know that ADs are are always talking.

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(06-12-2020 12:49 PM)inutech Wrote:  

(06-12-2020 12:42 PM)FIU4Ever Wrote:  

(06-12-2020 12:32 PM)APPdiesel Wrote:  

(06-12-2020 09:48 AM)FIU4Ever Wrote:  Fact: CUSA ADs and officials have said no conversations have happened with respect to realignment.

Opinion: They are having super secret meetings discussing alignment that no one knows about, but those meetings are happening!

Yeah, let's roll with opinion because that always beats facts. Y'all are asking us to throw out what was said by the AD but not giving anything substantive with the expectations that your opinion should be believed. Throwing out "it's super secret therefore no concrete evidence but it is happening" gets old quickly.

FACT: When it comes to realignment ADs lie to the public because they have to. You see it every time: schools are always "100% committed" to their current conference until they're out the door.

Not saying these particular ADs are lying (they very well may be telling the truth) but that's how it goes down. Deny, deny, deny until it's time to confirm.

If you say ADs lie about realignment is factual, then you are saying these specific ADs are lying.

You guys are a joke, if the AD says nothing, it means there is smoke otherwise they would deny it. If the AD says denies it, then don't believe them. So who should the fanbase listen to? A bunch of nobodies with no connections from the sunbelt because realignment gives them a hard on?

Well, to be fair, he did say that they're not necessarily lying in this case.

And there are lots of examples of ADs denying that they're leaving right up until they're gone.

But I also agree with you that if you're rooting for this to happen there really isn't much (other than time) that's probably going to convince you otherwise.

I imagine the internet is full of very convinced (and sometimes very convincing) arguments about exactly how conference realignment is going to go from the last 20 years that would pretty amusing to read now.

Likely nothing at all happens. Especially to the extent that Clickbait articles say. The problem is always going to be getting 8 to 10 schools to agree on 7 to 9 schools they don't hate.

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(06-12-2020 12:53 PM)panama Wrote:  

(06-12-2020 12:42 PM)FIU4Ever Wrote:  

(06-12-2020 12:32 PM)APPdiesel Wrote:  

(06-12-2020 09:48 AM)FIU4Ever Wrote:  Fact: CUSA ADs and officials have said no conversations have happened with respect to realignment.

Opinion: They are having super secret meetings discussing alignment that no one knows about, but those meetings are happening!

Yeah, let's roll with opinion because that always beats facts. Y'all are asking us to throw out what was said by the AD but not giving anything substantive with the expectations that your opinion should be believed. Throwing out "it's super secret therefore no concrete evidence but it is happening" gets old quickly.

FACT: When it comes to realignment ADs lie to the public because they have to. You see it every time: schools are always "100% committed" to their current conference until they're out the door.

Not saying these particular ADs are lying (they very well may be telling the truth) but that's how it goes down. Deny, deny, deny until it's time to confirm.

If you say ADs lie about realignment is factual, then you are saying these specific ADs are lying.

You guys are a joke, if the AD says nothing, it means there is smoke otherwise they would deny it. If the AD says denies it, then don't believe them. So who should the fanbase listen to? A bunch of nobodies with no connections from the sunbelt because realignment gives them a hard on?

You...you think we want realign with YOU? You think that's why SBC fans are posting here?!?

LMAO LOUD

So there is this world wide pandemic and most of us have seen The Office three times and there is literally nothing else to do. And there are quite a few people on CSNbbs who are pretty well connected to their individual schools and many have been through this before which is how they know that ADs are are always talking.

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Dude (or dudette?), many have discussed it before, many will discuss the same issues after we are dead. At this point in time, June 2020, it ain't happening.

(06-12-2020 12:49 PM)inutech Wrote:  

(06-12-2020 12:42 PM)FIU4Ever Wrote:  

(06-12-2020 12:32 PM)APPdiesel Wrote:  

(06-12-2020 09:48 AM)FIU4Ever Wrote:  Fact: CUSA ADs and officials have said no conversations have happened with respect to realignment.

Opinion: They are having super secret meetings discussing alignment that no one knows about, but those meetings are happening!

Yeah, let's roll with opinion because that always beats facts. Y'all are asking us to throw out what was said by the AD but not giving anything substantive with the expectations that your opinion should be believed. Throwing out "it's super secret therefore no concrete evidence but it is happening" gets old quickly.

FACT: When it comes to realignment ADs lie to the public because they have to. You see it every time: schools are always "100% committed" to their current conference until they're out the door.

Not saying these particular ADs are lying (they very well may be telling the truth) but that's how it goes down. Deny, deny, deny until it's time to confirm.

If you say ADs lie about realignment is factual, then you are saying these specific ADs are lying.

You guys are a joke, if the AD says nothing, it means there is smoke otherwise they would deny it. If the AD says denies it, then don't believe them. So who should the fanbase listen to? A bunch of nobodies with no connections from the sunbelt because realignment gives them a hard on?

Well, to be fair, he did say that they're not necessarily lying in this case.

And there are lots of examples of ADs denying that they're leaving right up until they're gone.

But I also agree with you that if you're rooting for this to happen there really isn't much (other than time) that's probably going to convince you otherwise.

I imagine the internet is full of very convinced (and sometimes very convincing) arguments about exactly how conference realignment is going to go from the last 20 years that would pretty amusing to read now.

That was my point, we remember when ADs said they aren't changing conferences, then did shortly after. But we forget the other times ADs said stuff ain't happening and stuff didn't happen.

I guess we believe what we want to believe.

If your AD hasn’t had a conversation with another program or conference about realignment in the last six months get a new one they aren’t doing their job.

FIU4Ever. I said ADs lie about it, cover up conversations, and put up smoke screens until it's time to announce. I didn't say these ADs were lying. I didn't say they weren't. I introduced the notion that it could be either. Call it Schrödinger's Lie. None of us know...so right now they're either lying, telling the truth, neither, or both. All of which could be true right now. If conversations were going on behind the scenes we (the public) wouldn't know about it until the deal was already signed. (Unless Wood Selig was involved...that dude can't keep his mouth shut for s***).

inutech, I appreciate you picking up what I was laying down "there are lots of examples of ADs denying that they're leaving right up until they're gone".

I think realignment makes sense. I don't believe it will happen. Too many contracts and egos involved.

clt is going to the aac chat page and plans to block posters. Seems logical

For a bunch of fans who say you are happy where you are and the SBC is the best conference between the two....


some of you are trying awful hard to convince yourself there's secret talks going on.

(06-12-2020 01:42 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  For a bunch of fans who say you are happy where you are and the SBC is the best conference between the two....


some of you are trying awful hard to convince yourself there's secret talks going on.

If my AD is talking to anybody, I hope it's not to the SBC or CUSA...

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(06-12-2020 01:35 PM)Saint3333 Wrote:  If your AD hasn’t had a conversation with another program or conference about realignment in the last six months get a new one they aren’t doing their job.

I hope my AD is talking to Houston, Tulane, SMU, Tulsa and Memphis on a regular basis.