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Bad news for G5 schools seeking relaxed rules for minimum D1 sports
https://twitter.com/collegead/status/125...06530?s=19

The NCAA will not relax its standards for the minimum number of required D1 sports, which had been requested by all 5 G5 commissioners.
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Realignment just became front and center.
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So...the all bus Sun Belt league is a go huh?

Looking forward to playing Little Rock 15 times next year...
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Would love to see a detail explanation
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(04-27-2020 10:41 PM)moehler Wrote:  Would love to see a detail explanation

I would too, but.. paywall. I'm waiting on reports from other outlets.
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(04-28-2020 03:26 AM)Michael in Raleigh Wrote:  A little more info:

https://apnews.com/d027100d06715e95e6555a40e10c8320


A key detail: They're going take waiver requests from individual schools but not do it for everyone.
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How many NCAA sports does your school sponsor??? Are you on the edge of the needed 14 that is required to be DI in the NCAA.

South is at 17, 8 men and 9 women.
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Louisiana has 14 total. 7 mens, 7 women. no dropping for us
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App State has 20 if you consider indoor and outdoor track & Field to be separate sports. 18 if you consider them a single sport.
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Georgia Southern has 16 if indoor/outdoor track counts as one sport. 6 men's and 10 women's.
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TXST has 14. 6 mens and 8 womens.
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I believe indoor and outdoor track are considered separate
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RE: Bad news for G5 schools seeking relaxed rules for minimum D1 sports
For you schools that are in the edge, if you can’t get a waiver, and need to drop a sport or 2, the next option is DII, not FCS. DII requires 10 sports, 5 men 5 women, or 4 men 6 women.

FCS is still DI, that is why it’s not an option.

This doesn’t reshuffle conferences, this resuffles divisions within the NCAA.

One option could be for conference to exist with only 8 teams for a couple years as members drop down to DII to regain financial footing than renter DI with their spot in the conference available to them.

UNO dropped after Katrina, they went all the way down to DIII, and are now back to DI. So this isn’t unprecedented, especially in Louisiana.
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(04-28-2020 10:24 AM)Bobcat2013 Wrote:  I believe indoor and outdoor track are considered separate

In that case TXST has 16
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(04-28-2020 10:24 AM)Bobcat2013 Wrote:  I believe indoor and outdoor track are considered separate

I've always considered them separate since they have separate championships but in talking about termination of programs, I would have to think they are linked since the coaching salaries and scholarships are generally shared. I figured I would specify so that we could get more apples to apples comparisons in the discussion.
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(04-28-2020 10:28 AM)Usajags Wrote:  For you schools that are in the edge, if you can’t get a waiver, and need to drop a sport or 2, the next option is DII, not FCS. DII requires 10 sports, 5 men 5 women, or 4 men 6 women.

FCS is still DI, that is why it’s not an option.

This doesn’t reshuffle conferences, this resuffles divisions within the NCAA.

One option could be for conference to exist with only 8 teams for a couple years as members drop down to DII to regain financial footing than renter DI with their spot in the conference available to them.

UNO dropped after Katrina, they went all the way down to DIII, and are now back to DI. So this isn’t unprecedented, especially in Louisiana.

I wonder what the re-entry strategy is for that...

If a team drops out are they automatically granted re-entry whenever they want to return (similar to UTA and UA-LR adding football)?
Do remaining members get to vote on allowing re-entry (like they were a new member)?
Is there a time limit to return, after which - if the exiting team doesn't return - the league can court replacements?

Lot of questions.

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15 at UTA, 7 men's and 8 girls' sports. Two each for basketball, cross-country, track, indoor track, tennis and golf, plus baseball, softball and volleyball. Obviously, we need to have outdoor volleyball and basketball teams. (What a sham!)

Way back before women's athletic teams, we had to have a few more sports in order to keep our NCAA qualifying numbers up: rifle, pistol, foil, bowling, swimming and football.

Now that some athletics departments fund the cheer squad and marching band, I think those activities should be counted, especially for Title IX purposes. And the indoor pep band could be a separate sport, along with basketball dance teams and athletic trainers.

Did we leave anyone out?
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(04-28-2020 11:42 AM)APPdiesel Wrote:  
(04-28-2020 10:28 AM)Usajags Wrote:  For you schools that are in the edge, if you can’t get a waiver, and need to drop a sport or 2, the next option is DII, not FCS. DII requires 10 sports, 5 men 5 women, or 4 men 6 women.

FCS is still DI, that is why it’s not an option.

This doesn’t reshuffle conferences, this resuffles divisions within the NCAA.

One option could be for conference to exist with only 8 teams for a couple years as members drop down to DII to regain financial footing than renter DI with their spot in the conference available to them.

UNO dropped after Katrina, they went all the way down to DIII, and are now back to DI. So this isn’t unprecedented, especially in Louisiana.

I wonder what the re-entry strategy is for that...

If a team drops out are they automatically granted re-entry whenever they want to return (similar to UTA and UA-LR adding football)?
Do remaining members get to vote on allowing re-entry (like they were a new member)?
Is there a time limit to return, after which - if the exiting team doesn't return - the league can court replacements?

Lot of questions.

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I would think it would be in stages. Drop a couple sports and drop to DII, 2 years without the sport, then a 2 year reopening time where those sports begin again, then move back to DI. So a 4 year plan. If you don’t restart the sports on year 3, those school would forfeit their spot in the conference. At that time the conference can start looking at someone else.

Obviously dealing with this type of situation, anything is possible. I would think everything is on the table.
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(04-28-2020 12:09 PM)Usajags Wrote:  I would think it would be in stages. Drop a couple sports and drop to DII, 2 years without the sport, then a 2 year reopening time where those sports begin again, then move back to DI. So a 4 year plan. If you don’t restart the sports on year 3, those school would forfeit their spot in the conference. At that time the conference can start looking at someone else.

Obviously dealing with this type of situation, anything is possible. I would think everything is on the table.

Oof. Sounds like divorcing someone you have a kid with who can just move back in against your will whenever they get their s**t together.
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