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RE: Should Players be given Another year of Egibility Due to cancellations?
I agree with the spring-sport-only camp. Winter sports lost out on their postseason, that's it. While a big deal for some, it's not like losing out on 75% or more of your season. Honestly, to make it fair for stats, scholarships, etc I would say just erase the whole spring season. Every school will have the ability to allow every spring sport athlete from this year to get an extra redshirt year. Schools will have to figure out how to pay for those extra scholarships and it will make it tough down the road for spots that can only dress/travel with x number of players, but that's something they'll have to figure out. If players want to use the redshirt year, fine. If not and they want to graduate or otherwise move on under their current plan, that's fine too.

Wouldn't be surprised if the NCAA just said no, but I think it would be the best way to go.
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RE: Should Players be given Another year of Egibility Due to cancellations?
Looks like everything apparently is on the table for discussion by the leaders.

FWIW from the Atlanta Journal-Constitution...

https://www.ajc.com/sports/college/georg...BmTaTUUaM/

In an interview Friday with the “Packer and Durham” show on the ACC Network, Clemson athletic director and former Tech AD Dan Radakovich shared a like sentiment, saying “(I) look forward to these conversations to be able to come back and see if there’s any possibility of retaining a little bit of the (spring) season, but if not, that’s OK.”

and...

An alternate option is at play to grant spring-sports athletes an extra season to compete. According to a tweet Friday from veteran college basketball reporter Jeff Goodman, the NCAA’s Council Coordination Committee had “agreed to grant relief for the use of a season of competition for student-athletes who have participated in spring sports.” Possible solutions for winter sports athletes also were to be discussed.
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RE: Should Players be given Another year of Egibility Due to cancellations?
(03-12-2020 10:16 PM)hburg Wrote:  This is what Geno Auriemma believes should happen. I agree based on the fact that many of the seniors who would have made it to the NCAA tournament will not be give the chance to either win a championship or repeat as champions or for the first time ever play in the NCAA tournament.

http://www.espn.com/video/clip?id=28894044

Geno can eat a bag of dicks.
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RE: Should Players be given Another year of Egibility Due to cancellations?
(03-13-2020 06:54 PM)JMaddy Wrote:  
(03-12-2020 10:16 PM)hburg Wrote:  This is what Geno Auriemma believes should happen. I agree based on the fact that many of the seniors who would have made it to the NCAA tournament will not be give the chance to either win a championship or repeat as champions or for the first time ever play in the NCAA tournament.

http://www.espn.com/video/clip?id=28894044

Geno can eat a bag of dicks.

Come on, JMaddy. That wasn't appropriate. There was no need in bringing KC Keeler into this discussion. Sheesh.
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RE: Should Players be given Another year of Egibility Due to cancellations?
It's a mess any way you slice it. As bad as I feel for the kids and part of me does think they should be granted an extra year of eligibility, but there are so many complications. If you have a senior laden team, you'd be at a big advantage assuming the incoming freshman will have their scholarships honored, which they should and I believe they have to. So then you end up with a competitive imbalance. Then you think about it and it's not just seniors who are affected. Everybody who is participating lost the chance to compete for a championship, so do you give them an extra year of eligibility or just say too bad?

Then you have the financial aspect of the whole thing. For some of the big boys, this wouldn't be that big of a deal, but for others they simply don't have budget to support the extra scholarships. Geno's solution for this is that the NCAA should pay for it. Well, I kind of doubt that the NCAA just has funds sitting around for an unforeseen situation like this.
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It would be interesting to know what the take rate would be for basketball. Let’s say Graduate transfers were not allowed back. And the best seniors went to the NBA, G league, or pro ball overseas. And the worst seniors decided to start their career outside of basketball because they weren’t getting meaningful PT anyway. Basketball rosters are pretty small and it may be easier to solve vs some of the other sports.
Would there be an average of 2 senior hoops players per team coming back? 700 players nationwide?

Throw a qualifier in there saying those players can only come back for a 5th year with the same school and I think you have a reasonable one year solution.

Of course some of the stat heads may freak out and not like players getting 5 years of stats vs great players who had the traditional 4 years. Career Records for individual players could be frozen after their current 4 years and the 5th year would only count for team stats.
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RE: Should Players be given Another year of Egibility Due to cancellations?
Spring sports eligibility is already extended, right? Now there’s discussion about winter? It’s just too much of a stretch. You didn’t get to play the very end. It sucks, but it’s life. I’m sure there will be plenty of spring athletes who are anxious to get on with their lives. I doubt spring sports will be that harshly affected.
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The VHSL declared the two finalists in each division other than Class 2 to be "Co-State Champions".
The ultimate asterisk championship. Stuff happens. Longhorn said it best. One door closes, another opens. Something good will happen for a lot of the seniors that as yet is unseen.

And, UVA is still the defending NCAA Champs. First team ever to get to hold the title for two years.
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(03-14-2020 10:09 AM)BSKB 24 Wrote:  The VHSL declared the two finalists in each division other than Class 2 to be "Co-State Champions".
The ultimate asterisk championship. Stuff happens. Longhorn said it best. One door closes, another opens. Something good will happen for a lot of the seniors that as yet is unseen.

And, UVA is still the defending NCAA Champs. First team ever to get to hold the title for two years.

Actually UCLA held it for 7 years back in the day. 04-cheers
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RE: Should Players be given Another year of Egibility Due to cancellations?
I believe all spring sport athletes should have the opportunity to return to school and finish their careers.

As for winter, they did just play a full season, therefore I don't see how you can or should bring them back.
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^which is the only SANE position
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Depending on how things go, they could even play the NCAA basketball tournaments in May. Of course now that they've announced that they're canceled, they won't, but they could have just placed things on hold for a month or so....like closing schools. Oh well. As for Geno, he can take a seat.
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(03-13-2020 02:51 PM)Polish Hammer Wrote:  https://247sports.com/Article/Coronaviru...144994142/

So spring sports have another year. Winter sports to find out soon from what I understand in the article.
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RE: Should Players be given Another year of Egibility Due to cancellations?
Makes little sense to allow winter sports an extra year. Spring sports you have to since most havent started or just started. Winter was done or mostly done. Kind of like a baseball game, if you get beyond the halfway point, it counts as a complete game. If you made it past the half way mark of the season its complete. Sorry.
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Well whatever the best choice, you can expect the NCAA to do the opposite.
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RE: Should Players be given Another year of Egibility Due to cancellations?
The NCAA canceling instead of an indefinite postponement for all winter sports was a knee-jerk reaction. Now they are making another knee jerk reaction with allowing student athletes to extend their time, creating a ripple effect to incoming freshman. Their no different than the idiots hording toilet paper. Slow down, take a deep breath, think and allow the wave to settle a little. I know the NCAA follows the money but slow the roll on the panic part.

Winter sports are done, sorry not post season, such is life. As far as spring athletes; their seasons are roughly half over. Extend the seniors a half season "extension" if they chose to return next year but must be enrolled in classes. I believe that would have less impact on the incoming freshmen and playing time for the underclassmen. Softball has about 30 games remaining on this years schedule. If CC chooses to return next season, she can only be an option to pitch the first 30 games next season.
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(03-16-2020 07:59 AM)AssyrianDuke Wrote:  Well whatever the best choice, you can expect the NCAA to do the opposite.

I expect the NCAA to implement a very confusing rule, with all kind of loopholes and grey areas. Whatever is implemented it will not be clear and straightforward and will be to the benefit of P5 conferences.
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I agree with many of you.....spring sports yes....winter sports no.
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RE: Should Players be given Another year of Egibility Due to cancellations?
It's really a shame that they can't find a way to at least continue the basketball seasons in the spring. I understand the scheduling conflicts and players graduating but I wish something could be done since the season was so close to finishing. Even if games had to be played on campuses instead of a neutral location it would at least be something.
But I do agree, they shouldn't get another year of eligibility. If the season were cancelled earlier like the spring sports were, then yes.
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