Sadly it’s part of the game and is expected. Not much different than our assistants taking some prime recruits with them at the last minute despite recruiting them for JMU all along.

(03-07-2020 10:09 AM)NJDuke97 Wrote:  kind of messed up that it appears that Bo Pelini the new D coordinator at LSU and former Youngstown State head coach is involved in recruiting a North Dakota State LB to transfer to LSU. What a weasel- that's like Houston recruiting a couple of JMU commits to ECU when he left or Kevin Keatts taking Brice with him to NC State from UNCW.

It's all fair game BTW but it just rubs me a little the wrong way.

I don’t agree. Pelini never coached Cox. There is nothing wrong ethically or morally with him signing Cox. It is allowed with the current rules. Cox has the option of saying no thanks.

(03-07-2020 10:09 AM)NJDuke97 Wrote:  kind of messed up that it appears that Bo Pelini the new D coordinator at LSU and former Youngstown State head coach is involved in recruiting a North Dakota State LB to transfer to LSU. What a weasel- that's like Houston recruiting a couple of JMU commits to ECU when he left or Kevin Keatts taking Brice with him to NC State from UNCW.

It's all fair game BTW but it just rubs me a little the wrong way.

When Bo finds out that NDSU isn't really that awesome and Cox is a step slow and a play late for SEC I have no sympathy for him. And lookI know NFL talents come from FCS all the time, (especially JMU and NDSU) I'm just not sure Jabrill is one of them.

(03-08-2020 12:57 AM)JMaddy Wrote:  

(03-07-2020 10:09 AM)NJDuke97 Wrote:  kind of messed up that it appears that Bo Pelini the new D coordinator at LSU and former Youngstown State head coach is involved in recruiting a North Dakota State LB to transfer to LSU. What a weasel- that's like Houston recruiting a couple of JMU commits to ECU when he left or Kevin Keatts taking Brice with him to NC State from UNCW.

It's all fair game BTW but it just rubs me a little the wrong way.

When Bo finds out that NDSU isn't really that awesome and Cox is a step slow and a play late for SEC I have no sympathy for him. And lookI know NFL talents come from FCS all the time, (especially JMU and NDSU) I'm just not sure Jabrill is one of them.

I agree. I think Cox's performance has been underwhelming. He averaged 6 six tackles per game last season and was only the fourth-leading tackler for the smelly Bisons, on a team whose notorious weakness was run defense (still shaking my head over Nooch throwing 33 passes). More hype than talent, it appears. BCS speed is going to shock him.

(03-07-2020 10:09 AM)NJDuke97 Wrote:  kind of messed up that it appears that Bo Pelini the new D coordinator at LSU and former Youngstown State head coach is involved in recruiting a North Dakota State LB to transfer to LSU. What a weasel- that's like Houston recruiting a couple of JMU commits to ECU when he left or Kevin Keatts taking Brice with him to NC State from UNCW.

It's all fair game BTW but it just rubs me a little the wrong way.

I'd have no issue with Houston taking a player that fulfilled his commitment to JMU. Cox will graduate this spring, he owes NDSU nothing at this point

Off topic so I was not sure where to put this post - the Bison are about to punch their ticket into the Big Dance for the fourth time in seven years. What an incredible run by both their football team and basketball team.

Props to their administrators and fan base.


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Cox their LB officially to LSU

(04-02-2020 07:06 PM)NJDuke97 Wrote:  Cox their LB officially to LSU

going to be interesting to see if this has a domino effect. Trey Lance has the talent to play in the Big 10 or other P5 schools - does he come back to spend a year in the NC tundra in '20-'21 if football is cancelled ? I am betting not.

Lance is from Minnesota- I think we have already started to see kids stay regional or local to their home base with everything that is going on but he’s from the general area so he may stay put.

(04-03-2020 07:03 AM)jmufbs Wrote:  

(04-02-2020 07:06 PM)NJDuke97 Wrote:  Cox their LB officially to LSU

going to be interesting to see if this has a domino effect. Trey Lance has the talent to play in the Big 10 or other P5 schools - does he come back to spend a year in the NC tundra in '20-'21 if football is cancelled ? I am betting not.

Hypothetically if Lance transfers this year, he will have to sit out next year. If the season gets cancelled would he have to sit out the following year or does the lost season count?

(04-03-2020 07:55 AM)fishingduke12 Wrote:  

(04-03-2020 07:03 AM)jmufbs Wrote:  

(04-02-2020 07:06 PM)NJDuke97 Wrote:  Cox their LB officially to LSU

going to be interesting to see if this has a domino effect. Trey Lance has the talent to play in the Big 10 or other P5 schools - does he come back to spend a year in the NC tundra in '20-'21 if football is cancelled ? I am betting not.

Hypothetically if Lance transfers this year, he will have to sit out next year. If the season gets cancelled would he have to sit out the following year or does the lost season count?

If that plays out wouldn’t he just go pro at that point. I think he’ll stay at North Dakota state and go pro early. It’s wishful thinking on our parts that he’ll transfer from the Bison.

Go pro? He’s had success in college but hasn’t displayed anywhere near the passing prowess to be an NFL QB at this point.

(04-03-2020 04:48 PM)Polish Hammer Wrote:  Go pro? He’s had success in college but hasn’t displayed anywhere near the passing prowess to be an NFL QB at this point.

I agree. Lance is a perfect prototypical dual-threat college QB, which doesn't translate well in the bigs. They want an accurate, drop-back guy with a cannon. They don't care a lot about running ability. And, the league is becoming more pass-heavy every season.

(04-03-2020 08:08 PM)Purple Wrote:  

(04-03-2020 04:48 PM)Polish Hammer Wrote:  Go pro? He’s had success in college but hasn’t displayed anywhere near the passing prowess to be an NFL QB at this point.

I agree. Lance is a perfect prototypical dual-threat college QB, which doesn't translate well in the bigs. They want an accurate, drop-back guy with a cannon. They don't care a lot about running ability. And, the league is becoming more pass-heavy every season.

I hope we keep this same point of point of view when Ben is evaluated by NFL teams. Dual threat quarterbacks are valued more than ever right now.

(04-03-2020 10:13 PM)Anders Wrote:  

(04-03-2020 08:08 PM)Purple Wrote:  

(04-03-2020 04:48 PM)Polish Hammer Wrote:  Go pro? He’s had success in college but hasn’t displayed anywhere near the passing prowess to be an NFL QB at this point.

I agree. Lance is a perfect prototypical dual-threat college QB, which doesn't translate well in the bigs. They want an accurate, drop-back guy with a cannon. They don't care a lot about running ability. And, the league is becoming more pass-heavy every season.

I hope we keep this same point of point of view when Ben is evaluated by NFL teams. Dual threat quarterbacks are valued more than ever right now.

I promise you that Ben will not be evaluated on his ability to gain yards rushing. He will be evaluated on his ability to deliver the ball to receivers. PERIOD!

(04-03-2020 08:08 PM)Purple Wrote:  

(04-03-2020 04:48 PM)Polish Hammer Wrote:  Go pro? He’s had success in college but hasn’t displayed anywhere near the passing prowess to be an NFL QB at this point.

I agree. Lance is a perfect prototypical dual-threat college QB, which doesn't translate well in the bigs. They want an accurate, drop-back guy with a cannon. They don't care a lot about running ability. And, the league is becoming more pass-heavy every season.

Except they are trending away from exactly that. They do care about buying time in the pocket and turning nothing into something with your legs. Mahomes, Jackson, Russell Wilson, Baker, Kyler Murray, Dak, Deshaun, even josh Allen. By no means do i think Lance is good enough to go pro based off one season at the FCS level but to say that the league is not looking for dual threat QBs is flat out wrong. Even in interviews with Madia and scouts about Ben then all bring up his ability to extend/make plays with his feet

isn't Lance from Fargo?

I doubt he'll leave.

(04-04-2020 04:45 AM)fishingduke12 Wrote:  

(04-03-2020 08:08 PM)Purple Wrote:  

(04-03-2020 04:48 PM)Polish Hammer Wrote:  Go pro? He’s had success in college but hasn’t displayed anywhere near the passing prowess to be an NFL QB at this point.

I agree. Lance is a perfect prototypical dual-threat college QB, which doesn't translate well in the bigs. They want an accurate, drop-back guy with a cannon. They don't care a lot about running ability. And, the league is becoming more pass-heavy every season.

Except they are trending away from exactly that. They do care about buying time in the pocket and turning nothing into something with your legs. Mahomes, Jackson, Russell Wilson, Baker, Kyler Murray, Dak, Deshaun, even josh Allen. By no means do i think Lance is good enough to go pro based off one season at the FCS level but to say that the league is not looking for dual threat QBs is flat out wrong. Even in interviews with Madia and scouts about Ben then all bring up his ability to extend/make plays with his feet

The league certainly will look toward guys that can do both after seeing the success of Jackson last season. But QBs that can tuck and run are different than where I see his abilities as more of a runner that shows run first to then dump off and I don’t see the downfield passing he still needs to harness to get to that next level. His passing ability is far from those guys listed, he’s got a couple years to develop as a passer and will need stay in school those seasons to get there.

(04-04-2020 04:45 AM)fishingduke12 Wrote:  

(04-03-2020 08:08 PM)Purple Wrote:  

(04-03-2020 04:48 PM)Polish Hammer Wrote:  Go pro? He’s had success in college but hasn’t displayed anywhere near the passing prowess to be an NFL QB at this point.

I agree. Lance is a perfect prototypical dual-threat college QB, which doesn't translate well in the bigs. They want an accurate, drop-back guy with a cannon. They don't care a lot about running ability. And, the league is becoming more pass-heavy every season.

Except they are trending away from exactly that. They do care about buying time in the pocket and turning nothing into something with your legs. Mahomes, Jackson, Russell Wilson, Baker, Kyler Murray, Dak, Deshaun, even josh Allen. By no means do i think Lance is good enough to go pro based off one season at the FCS level but to say that the league is not looking for dual threat QBs is flat out wrong. Even in interviews with Madia and scouts about Ben then all bring up his ability to extend/make plays with his feet

You are right. I take it back. Dual threat QBs have returned to the pro game.... if there is a game left.

(04-04-2020 06:02 AM)Duke Dawg Wrote:  isn't Lance from Fargo?

I doubt he'll leave.

Lance is from Marshall, Minnesota, closer to the University of Minnesota than NDSU. He will greatly improve his stock moving to a BCS conference. Not saying he is going to jump, but it is something that should concern all smelly Bison fans.