(12-20-2019 01:31 PM)DoubleDogDare Wrote:  Wait, people are saying QB is a question mark after arguing all last year that the best QB was on the bench?!?!

Not everybody.

For what it's worth, JMU does have a tougher schedule next year:

hosting Delaware to start the season (conference game against a rival to start the year)

@ UNC

@ Albany (FCS Playoffs this year)

@ Villanova (FCS Playoffs this year)

@ Towson

@ Richmond

(12-20-2019 01:31 PM)DoubleDogDare Wrote:  Wait, people are saying QB is a question mark after arguing all last year that the best QB was on the bench?!?!

Last year the best QB was on the bench. Nooch has come a long way and earned his starting spot. Let's hope he limits the mistakes like the one he made against UNI that are shades of 2018 Nooch.

@ Richmond not tougher, JMU fans make more noise than the sweater vest wearing Spidah fans. I consider that another JMU home game. We school them on tailgating there too.

(12-20-2019 01:51 PM)JMU_Newbill Wrote:  

(12-20-2019 01:31 PM)DoubleDogDare Wrote:  Wait, people are saying QB is a question mark after arguing all last year that the best QB was on the bench?!?!

Not everybody.

(12-20-2019 01:33 PM)JMaddy Wrote:  

(12-20-2019 01:31 PM)DoubleDogDare Wrote:  Wait, people are saying QB is a question mark after arguing all last year that the best QB was on the bench?!?!

I never argued that. I always thought you could see that Ben was going to be a special quarterback. He's one of our top 5 ever.

Ok guys it was just a joke about the board in general and I didn't even look at who was saying QB before typing my post.

(12-20-2019 02:11 PM)DoubleDogDare Wrote:  

(12-20-2019 01:51 PM)JMU_Newbill Wrote:  

(12-20-2019 01:31 PM)DoubleDogDare Wrote:  Wait, people are saying QB is a question mark after arguing all last year that the best QB was on the bench?!?!

Not everybody.

(12-20-2019 01:33 PM)JMaddy Wrote:  

(12-20-2019 01:31 PM)DoubleDogDare Wrote:  Wait, people are saying QB is a question mark after arguing all last year that the best QB was on the bench?!?!

I never argued that. I always thought you could see that Ben was going to be a special quarterback. He's one of our top 5 ever.

Ok guys it was just a joke about the board in general and I didn't even look at who was saying QB before typing my post.

It’s still a fair point, regardless of who said what.

There’s always a “oh woe is us next year” crowd on here, otherwise known as the emo posters. Always looking for our gloom and doom. I’m sure they will tell us next year how “loaded” the Bizon will be too, while we’ve just totally lost ALL our talent

We will be fine at QB with Cig and Montgomery evaluating and developing them. That position is the least of my worries.

Just to be clear, here's what could potentially be starting next year:

QB: Johnson, Maloney (biggest area of concern)
RB: Everyone is back. We're loaded
TE: Drew Painter, Cheatham. Drop off here, but seems like coach likes Painter
WR: Brown, Dean, Ravenel are the top 3. Looks serviceable.
OL: Fornadel, Gillespie, Bethea, Wilson all return. Timming or new guy from UConn at Center. Tons of young guys looking good here too. We're loaded again.

So with that said, our run game should be stout again, which will allow Cole or Gage to thrive.

DT: Atariwa, Greene, Groulx all return. Loaded here.
DE: Jalen Green, Isaac Ukwu. Easily biggest drop off on the team.
LB: Azanama, Tucker-Dorsey, Mateo Jackson. A little unproven, but could be solid.
CB: Taurus Carrol, McCormick. The UMass transfer could help. Davis can also play CB.
S: Wayne Davis, Amos, Hampton. We're fine here.

Overall, i'm not too concerned about the Defense either. If we get consistent above average QB play, the 2020 Dukes will be in the hunt again.

(12-20-2019 02:04 PM)DirtyDukes Wrote:  

(12-20-2019 01:31 PM)DoubleDogDare Wrote:  Wait, people are saying QB is a question mark after arguing all last year that the best QB was on the bench?!?!

Last year the best QB was on the bench. Nooch has come a long way and earned his starting spot. Let's hope he limits the mistakes like the one he made against UNI that are shades of 2018 Nooch.

(12-20-2019 02:31 PM)chicagoduke Wrote:  Just to be clear, here's what could potentially be starting next year:

QB: Johnson, Maloney (biggest area of concern)
RB: Everyone is back. We're loaded
TE: Drew Painter, Cheatham. Drop off here, but seems like coach likes Painter
WR: Brown, Dean, Ravenel are the top 3. Looks serviceable.
OL: Fornadel, Gillespie, Bethea, Wilson all return. Timming or new guy from UConn at Center. Tons of young guys looking good here too. We're loaded again.

So with that said, our run game should be stout again, which will allow Cole or Gage to thrive.

DT: Atariwa, Greene, Groulx all return. Loaded here.
DE: Jalen Green, Isaac Ukwu. Easily biggest drop off on the team.
LB: Azanama, Tucker-Dorsey, Mateo Jackson. A little unproven, but could be solid.
CB: Taurus Carrol, McCormick. The UMass transfer could help. Davis can also play CB.
S: Wayne Davis, Amos, Hampton. We're fine here.

Overall, i'm not too concerned about the Defense either. If we get consistent above average QB play, the 2020 Dukes will be in the hunt again.

Gillespie walked with the seniors on Senior Day despite athletically being a R-Jr. I thought I heard/read somewhere that he isn't coming back, but I could be wrong.

(12-20-2019 11:43 AM)Duke Dawg Wrote:  sorry guys, but next year is going to be an 8-3/7-4 kind of year.

playoffs? of course. But title contenders? i don't see it.

Replace “is going to” with ”could” and I would agree. It “could” very well be an 8-3/7-4 type year. Or ”could” be an 10-1/9-2 title contender type year.

The only known is out of approximately 54 2 deep players (including special teams), we know are losing 15 seniors on the 2 deep/12 starters.
Of the approximately 39 non senior 2 deepers:
-We don’t know what other offseason losses there will be.
-We don’t know how good the 10 returning (non special teams) starters will be. Some guys improve a lot season to season, some a little, some none at all. Heck, some regress.
-We don’t know how good the other 29 2 deepers will be.
-We don’t know how good the at least 15 new faces in the 2 deep will be.
-We don’t know how many transfers will get, at what positions, and how good they’ll be. They could range from total flops, to 2 deepers, to starters, to All CAA, to AA.
-We don’t know how many (if any) impact true Fr will have making the 2 deep (or even starting).
-We don’t know who the stating QB will be, or if he’s even on the roster.

With all those unknowns, and more unknowns that knowns, to definitively say is going 8-3/7-4 type year is plain silly. You don’t know. Neither do I, or anyone else, what type of season next year will be. Will get a little better idea in the Spring, a little more in the Summer, and won’t know for sure until the Fall.

(12-20-2019 01:09 PM)JMaddy Wrote:  QB is our only real "question" next year. Everything else we are returning starters or our 2 deep is loaded.

QB is a question mark for us next year along with about 120 other FCS programs. I would guess many programs would love to have our QB problem.

(12-20-2019 01:29 PM)HyperDuke Wrote:  

(12-20-2019 12:01 PM)Dignan Wrote:  I’m too lazy to look it up, do we have an FBS game next year? Just trying to think of whether 0 or 1 loss is the safest bet.

To actually answer your question, yes, @UNC-CH on 9/19.

Thanks. Don’t know how they’ll be next year but in recent years UNC-CH is a winnable game.

(12-20-2019 03:02 PM)RamDawg Wrote:  

(12-20-2019 01:09 PM)JMaddy Wrote:  QB is our only real "question" next year. Everything else we are returning starters or our 2 deep is loaded.

QB is a question mark for us next year along with about 120 other FCS programs. I would guess many programs would love to have our QB problem.

I agree we're fine there too. I'm just saying of all the positions that's our biggest question mark, because I don't know who it will be.

(12-20-2019 02:04 PM)DirtyDukes Wrote:  

(12-20-2019 01:31 PM)DoubleDogDare Wrote:  Wait, people are saying QB is a question mark after arguing all last year that the best QB was on the bench?!?!

Last year the best QB was on the bench. Nooch has come a long way and earned his starting spot. Let's hope he limits the mistakes like the one he made against UNI that are shades of 2018 Nooch.

Really, give me a freaking break......let it go already.

(12-20-2019 02:49 PM)BDKJMU Wrote:  

(12-20-2019 11:43 AM)Duke Dawg Wrote:  sorry guys, but next year is going to be an 8-3/7-4 kind of year.

playoffs? of course. But title contenders? i don't see it.

Replace “is going to” with ”could” and I would agree. It “could” very well be an 8-3/7-4 type year. Or ”could” be an 10-1/9-2 title contender type year.

The only known is out of approximately 54 2 deep players (including special teams), we know are losing 15 seniors on the 2 deep/12 starters.
Of the approximately 39 non senior 2 deepers:
-We don’t know what other offseason losses there will be.
-We don’t know how good the 10 returning (non special teams) starters will be. Some guys improve a lot season to season, some a little, some none at all. Heck, some regress.
-We don’t know how good the other 29 2 deepers will be.
-We don’t know how good the at least 15 new faces in the 2 deep will be.
-We don’t know how many transfers will get, at what positions, and how good they’ll be. They could range from total flops, to 2 deepers, to starters, to All CAA, to AA.
-We don’t know how many (if any) impact true Fr will have making the 2 deep (or even starting).
-We don’t know who the stating QB will be, or if he’s even on the roster.

With all those unknowns, and more unknowns that knowns, to definitely say is going 8-3/7-4 type year is plain silly. You don’t know. Neither do I, or anyone else, what type of season next year will be. Will get a little better idea in the Spring, a little more in the Summer, and won’t know for sure until the Fall.

Funny, this reminds me exactly why I love all college sports. It's fluid, with so many twists and turns season to season. Heck Saban could get hit by a meteor and Bama could come along and offer Coach Sig $5M to take over. Probable? Nope but crazy stuff does happen in college sports.

I think it's pretty difficult to duplicate what our team has done this season. I don't think it's unreasonable (or emo) to think we may lose a game or two in the FCS next year. Is it certain? Hell no, but I don't think it's a ridiculous statement, either. We are losing some terrific players.
I do think another transfer or two could fill in the holes that we need to fill.
On the QB front, I think it's anybody's job next season... including the new QB commit. He's a stud. Cignetti certainly isn't afraid to play a freshman QB. Hopefully a guy stands out early. The good thing about Cignetti's offense is the QB just needs to make good decisions. We don't need a superstar there, just a smart guy. I think we'll have enough guys and if we don't Cignetti will bring in a transfer to make it happen.

Replacing the productivity of both All-American DEs easily seems like the biggest question mark for me, followed by how to replace Polk and both Stapletons in the passing game. Whoever our new QB is will benefit from the team returning every RB and two all-conference OL.

(12-20-2019 04:18 PM)Lyric Wrote:  Replacing the productivity of both All-American DEs easily seems like the biggest question mark for me, followed by how to replace Polk and both Stapletons in the passing game. Whoever our new QB is will benefit from the team returning every RB and two all-conference OL.

Coin flip really but I’m more concerned about WR just because while they haven’t played a ton, the potential is sky-high for JGreene and Ukwu at DE and we’ve seen it flashed, especially with MGreen and Atariwa back clogging them middle and sucking up blockers

(12-20-2019 04:18 PM)Lyric Wrote:  Replacing the productivity of both All-American DEs easily seems like the biggest question mark for me, followed by how to replace Polk and both Stapletons in the passing game. Whoever our new QB is will benefit from the team returning every RB and two all-conference OL.

I think Ravenel could be an X-factor this season. He has made some clutch catches in his short time on the team. I think it's been hard for the other WRs to get on the field due to talent of Stapleton and Polk. I think losing Polk's speed will be hard to replace.
The fact that the RB's are only getting stronger next season is incredibly exciting.

(12-20-2019 04:18 PM)Lyric Wrote:  Replacing the productivity of both All-American DEs easily seems like the biggest question mark for me, followed by how to replace Polk and both Stapletons in the passing game. Whoever our new QB is will benefit from the team returning every RB and two all-conference OL.

Yep, agree. Daka/Carter bring tremendous pressure this year that limits how long the QB has to find a target. They look Pro caliber to me. Polk brings the deep threat, and the Stapletons are great go to possession and red zone targets, plus have been huge at downfield blocking for other runners and receivers.

Hoping we have some new guys that will be next men up, but superior size/strength and speed is not easy to replace, and all these guys have it.