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RE: Collegiate Baseball Releases First of 2020 Preseason Polls
(01-30-2020 05:40 PM)jellowl Wrote: It's not so much about the video games and more about meeting the expectations of what recruits think a top flight program looks like. If they're on instagram and see the CWS champs with cush locker rooms and PS4s and high tech swing and pitch analysis systems, they make come to associate that look and those types of resources and facilities, with what a top program should look like.
The design of P5 school athletic facilities today is substantially influenced by what it will look like to 18-year-olds browsing instagram and twitter.
This is not to say any of these recruits aren't savvy enough to see though that, just that they're all 18.
Agree!!! Also, contrary to some opinions, video games in the locker room can promote personal interaction with teammates and good old fashion fun competition. If you have ever watched an 18 yr old playing a game with his friends it is quite entertaining. Also a good ice breaker for the new guys with the vets. I'm betting there is already a PS4 or XBox in the locker room BTW.
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(01-30-2020 05:40 PM)jellowl Wrote: It's not so much about the video games and more about meeting the expectations of what recruits think a top flight program looks like. If they're on instagram and see the CWS champs with cush locker rooms and PS4s and high tech swing and pitch analysis systems, they make come to associate that look and those types of resources and facilities, with what a top program should look like.
The design of P5 school athletic facilities today is substantially influenced by what it will look like to 18-year-olds browsing instagram and twitter.
This is not to say any of these recruits aren't savvy enough to see though that, just that they're all 18.
This is spot on. Guess what...kids play video games. And kids who meet the academic requirements to get into Rice are also playing video games. They've somehow managed to accomplish lofty standards academically, athletically, and socially to gain entrance into one of the great institutions in the world....all while still being able to be a kid. Weird....
If a great student who is also a great baseball player visits Rice and next weekend visits TCU, Texas, A&M, or LSU....guess which one he's probably going to pick. Obviously the availability of video games and TV's isn't the deciding factor. However, when you see what other schools have poured into their facilities the sheer attractiveness is overwhelmingly in the other schools favor when compared to Rice. Is Reckling an amazing place? ABSOLUTELY. But kids, like it or not, see the other things as well.
Just my .02.....
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(01-31-2020 10:45 AM)Owl1998 Wrote: (01-30-2020 05:40 PM)jellowl Wrote: It's not so much about the video games and more about meeting the expectations of what recruits think a top flight program looks like. If they're on instagram and see the CWS champs with cush locker rooms and PS4s and high tech swing and pitch analysis systems, they make come to associate that look and those types of resources and facilities, with what a top program should look like.
The design of P5 school athletic facilities today is substantially influenced by what it will look like to 18-year-olds browsing instagram and twitter.
This is not to say any of these recruits aren't savvy enough to see though that, just that they're all 18.
This is spot on. Guess what...kids play video games. And kids who meet the academic requirements to get into Rice are also playing video games. They've somehow managed to accomplish lofty standards academically, athletically, and socially to gain entrance into one of the great institutions in the world....all while still being able to be a kid. Weird....
If a great student who is also a great baseball player visits Rice and next weekend visits TCU, Texas, A&M, or LSU....guess which one he's probably going to pick. Obviously the availability of video games and TV's isn't the deciding factor. However, when you see what other schools have poured into their facilities the sheer attractiveness is overwhelmingly in the other schools favor when compared to Rice. Is Reckling an amazing place? ABSOLUTELY. But kids, like it or not, see the other things as well.
Just my .02.....
Our lockerroom/lounge area at Reckling has been upgraded considerably over the past several years, and plans are in the works for further enhancements. And we're now (finally) among a relatively small group of programs that have invested in state of the arts pitching and hitting technology. Everyone who attended the RBI Club event this past Saturday, and got to experience the new hitting technology, was impressed. Not even every MLB club employs what we have.
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Social media has certainly changed the game but at some point in the last few years it became excessive. A good education and competitive program should be the calling card, not the amenities.
Curious but has anyone ever seen or heard about Stanford's facilities? They recruit nationally and I suspect it is with less amenities than other powerhouses.
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(01-31-2020 02:51 PM)RiceOwl Wrote: Social media has certainly changed the game but at some point in the last few years it became excessive. A good education and competitive program should be the calling card, not the amenities.
Curious but has anyone ever seen or heard about Stanford's facilities? They recruit nationally and I suspect it is with less amenities than other powerhouses.
Can't find anything that shows their locker room or what not but having been in both the Rice Baseball equipment area (in the back of Tudor-also has all other non-football sports) and now watching this video, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P2tlTub-NGM , I can tell you that the collection of gear that Cardinal players have access to/receive is far above what Rice gets.
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(01-31-2020 03:01 PM)ExcitedOwl18 Wrote: (01-31-2020 02:51 PM)RiceOwl Wrote: Social media has certainly changed the game but at some point in the last few years it became excessive. A good education and competitive program should be the calling card, not the amenities.
Curious but has anyone ever seen or heard about Stanford's facilities? They recruit nationally and I suspect it is with less amenities than other powerhouses.
Can't find anything that shows their locker room or what not but having been in both the Rice Baseball equipment area (in the back of Tudor-also has all other non-football sports) and now watching this video, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P2tlTub-NGM , I can tell you that the collection of gear that Cardinal players have access to/receive is far above what Rice gets.
Might put in a call to Jackson Parthasarthy. He's there working on his masters and on the Stanford roster.
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RE: Collegiate Baseball Releases First of 2020 Preseason Polls
For anyone who attended Fan Fest and the intrasquad yesterday, how did the pitchers look? Any insights from the intrasquad?
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(01-31-2020 11:34 AM)waltgreenberg Wrote: Our lockerroom/lounge area at Reckling has been upgraded considerably over the past several years, and plans are in the works for further enhancements. And we're now (finally) among a relatively small group of programs that have invested in state of the arts pitching and hitting technology. Everyone who attended the RBI Club event this past Saturday, and got to experience the new hitting technology, was impressed. Not even every MLB club employs what we have.
I went on the tour in Fan Fest and saw the VR setup they had where you could hit against actual 3d footage of opposing pitchers pitching. That seemed really cool. Also in the barn, they had the Hittracks thing where it shows you where batted balls of tees would go/land in different parks.
I was curious how much analytics resources they had because Canterino gave an interview last year after some time in short season ball and had this to say:
Quote:“I feel like I’m incorporating new things and (trying) to improve upon them has been the focus since I’ve gotten here,” he said. “I like the analytic side of the game. Analyzing how our pitches move, what makes good pitch combinations, stuff like that is definitely something that we’ve started exploring more.
“Rice did not have much of that whatsoever. I always had some thoughts about what makes some of my stuff play pretty good against hitters, but to see it in numbers form and be able to get concrete results and say, ‘this is what happens when I do this and this is what happens when I do that.’ And if I put them together to become even better, then that was something that we really wanted to address. I just feel like I’ve gotten to know myself even better. So, the organization has really helped already.”
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(02-03-2020 03:38 PM)mhatter106 Wrote: (01-31-2020 11:34 AM)waltgreenberg Wrote: Our lockerroom/lounge area at Reckling has been upgraded considerably over the past several years, and plans are in the works for further enhancements. And we're now (finally) among a relatively small group of programs that have invested in state of the arts pitching and hitting technology. Everyone who attended the RBI Club event this past Saturday, and got to experience the new hitting technology, was impressed. Not even every MLB club employs what we have.
I went on the tour in Fan Fest and saw the VR setup they had where you could hit against actual 3d footage of opposing pitchers pitching. That seemed really cool. Also in the barn, they had the Hittracks thing where it shows you where batted balls of tees would go/land in different parks.
I was curious how much analytics resources they had because Canterino gave an interview last year after some time in short season ball and had this to say:
Quote:“I feel like I’m incorporating new things and (trying) to improve upon them has been the focus since I’ve gotten here,” he said. “I like the analytic side of the game. Analyzing how our pitches move, what makes good pitch combinations, stuff like that is definitely something that we’ve started exploring more.
“Rice did not have much of that whatsoever. I always had some thoughts about what makes some of my stuff play pretty good against hitters, but to see it in numbers form and be able to get concrete results and say, ‘this is what happens when I do this and this is what happens when I do that.’ And if I put them together to become even better, then that was something that we really wanted to address. I just feel like I’ve gotten to know myself even better. So, the organization has really helped already.”
Most, if not all, of the new analytics tools were purchased over the Summer and into the Fall, after Canterino graduated.
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(02-03-2020 04:41 PM)waltgreenberg Wrote: (02-03-2020 03:38 PM)mhatter106 Wrote: (01-31-2020 11:34 AM)waltgreenberg Wrote: Our lockerroom/lounge area at Reckling has been upgraded considerably over the past several years, and plans are in the works for further enhancements. And we're now (finally) among a relatively small group of programs that have invested in state of the arts pitching and hitting technology. Everyone who attended the RBI Club event this past Saturday, and got to experience the new hitting technology, was impressed. Not even every MLB club employs what we have.
I went on the tour in Fan Fest and saw the VR setup they had where you could hit against actual 3d footage of opposing pitchers pitching. That seemed really cool. Also in the barn, they had the Hittracks thing where it shows you where batted balls of tees would go/land in different parks.
I was curious how much analytics resources they had because Canterino gave an interview last year after some time in short season ball and had this to say:
Quote:“I feel like I’m incorporating new things and (trying) to improve upon them has been the focus since I’ve gotten here,” he said. “I like the analytic side of the game. Analyzing how our pitches move, what makes good pitch combinations, stuff like that is definitely something that we’ve started exploring more.
“Rice did not have much of that whatsoever. I always had some thoughts about what makes some of my stuff play pretty good against hitters, but to see it in numbers form and be able to get concrete results and say, ‘this is what happens when I do this and this is what happens when I do that.’ And if I put them together to become even better, then that was something that we really wanted to address. I just feel like I’ve gotten to know myself even better. So, the organization has really helped already.”
Most, if not all, of the new analytics tools were purchased over the Summer and into the Fall, after Canterino graduated.
Canterino graduated? That's extremely impressive in three years with no summer school and a difficult major.
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(02-03-2020 04:54 PM)ExcitedOwl18 Wrote: (02-03-2020 04:41 PM)waltgreenberg Wrote: (02-03-2020 03:38 PM)mhatter106 Wrote: (01-31-2020 11:34 AM)waltgreenberg Wrote: Our lockerroom/lounge area at Reckling has been upgraded considerably over the past several years, and plans are in the works for further enhancements. And we're now (finally) among a relatively small group of programs that have invested in state of the arts pitching and hitting technology. Everyone who attended the RBI Club event this past Saturday, and got to experience the new hitting technology, was impressed. Not even every MLB club employs what we have.
I went on the tour in Fan Fest and saw the VR setup they had where you could hit against actual 3d footage of opposing pitchers pitching. That seemed really cool. Also in the barn, they had the Hittracks thing where it shows you where batted balls of tees would go/land in different parks.
I was curious how much analytics resources they had because Canterino gave an interview last year after some time in short season ball and had this to say:
Quote:“I feel like I’m incorporating new things and (trying) to improve upon them has been the focus since I’ve gotten here,” he said. “I like the analytic side of the game. Analyzing how our pitches move, what makes good pitch combinations, stuff like that is definitely something that we’ve started exploring more.
“Rice did not have much of that whatsoever. I always had some thoughts about what makes some of my stuff play pretty good against hitters, but to see it in numbers form and be able to get concrete results and say, ‘this is what happens when I do this and this is what happens when I do that.’ And if I put them together to become even better, then that was something that we really wanted to address. I just feel like I’ve gotten to know myself even better. So, the organization has really helped already.”
Most, if not all, of the new analytics tools were purchased over the Summer and into the Fall, after Canterino graduated.
Canterino graduated? That's extremely impressive in three years with no summer school and a difficult major.
My bad. I should have said after Canterino departed.
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(02-03-2020 05:25 PM)waltgreenberg Wrote: (02-03-2020 04:54 PM)ExcitedOwl18 Wrote: (02-03-2020 04:41 PM)waltgreenberg Wrote: (02-03-2020 03:38 PM)mhatter106 Wrote: (01-31-2020 11:34 AM)waltgreenberg Wrote: Our lockerroom/lounge area at Reckling has been upgraded considerably over the past several years, and plans are in the works for further enhancements. And we're now (finally) among a relatively small group of programs that have invested in state of the arts pitching and hitting technology. Everyone who attended the RBI Club event this past Saturday, and got to experience the new hitting technology, was impressed. Not even every MLB club employs what we have.
I went on the tour in Fan Fest and saw the VR setup they had where you could hit against actual 3d footage of opposing pitchers pitching. That seemed really cool. Also in the barn, they had the Hittracks thing where it shows you where batted balls of tees would go/land in different parks.
I was curious how much analytics resources they had because Canterino gave an interview last year after some time in short season ball and had this to say:
Quote:“I feel like I’m incorporating new things and (trying) to improve upon them has been the focus since I’ve gotten here,” he said. “I like the analytic side of the game. Analyzing how our pitches move, what makes good pitch combinations, stuff like that is definitely something that we’ve started exploring more.
“Rice did not have much of that whatsoever. I always had some thoughts about what makes some of my stuff play pretty good against hitters, but to see it in numbers form and be able to get concrete results and say, ‘this is what happens when I do this and this is what happens when I do that.’ And if I put them together to become even better, then that was something that we really wanted to address. I just feel like I’ve gotten to know myself even better. So, the organization has really helped already.”
Most, if not all, of the new analytics tools were purchased over the Summer and into the Fall, after Canterino graduated.
Canterino graduated? That's extremely impressive in three years with no summer school and a difficult major.
My bad. I should have said after Canterino departed.
I’m betting he will eventually graduate.
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RE: Collegiate Baseball Releases First of 2020 Preseason Polls
I wish I had more MLB contacts because I am curious how much of the VR stuff the guys playing for big bucks rely on.
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(02-04-2020 11:18 AM)RiceOwl Wrote: I wish I had more MLB contacts because I am curious how much of the VR stuff the guys playing for big bucks rely on.
Maybe not at all. It just seemed really cool to me. And made me wish it would be a feature in a future MLB the Show for PS4 with VR so I could have a simulated experience of what a 100 mph must feel like coming at me, without actually having to have the experience of having 100 mph come at me.
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(02-04-2020 11:18 AM)RiceOwl Wrote: I wish I had more MLB contacts because I am curious how much of the VR stuff the guys playing for big bucks rely on.
trash cans are cheaper than vr tech
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(02-05-2020 01:49 PM)critten Wrote: (02-04-2020 11:18 AM)RiceOwl Wrote: I wish I had more MLB contacts because I am curious how much of the VR stuff the guys playing for big bucks rely on.
trash cans are cheaper than vr tech
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RE: Collegiate Baseball Releases First of 2020 Preseason Polls
I know Woods is nursing an injury, but does anyone know why Conlon hasn't thrown in the last 2 weeks? We can ill-afford to lose any pitching, and both Wood and Conlon figured to be major contributors this year.
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(02-10-2020 09:48 AM)waltgreenberg Wrote: I know Woods is nursing an injury, but does anyone know why Conlon hasn't thrown in the last 2 weeks? We can ill-afford to lose any pitching, and both Wood and Conlon figured to be major contributors this year.
Conlon pitched on 2/1 per RUBPA website.
Not sure why he didn't pitch this past weekend.
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