And yet another conference champion shows up in Belmont.

Clemson shows up at #65. Got 15 NIT teams left now.

(08-29-2019 08:50 AM)stever20 Wrote:  And yet another conference champion shows up in Belmont.

If Belmont wins the OVC with a new coaching staff and after having lost a steller player to the NBA, ... well not sure about what that says of the OVC and/or Belmont.

(09-02-2019 10:50 PM)bill dazzle Wrote:  

(08-29-2019 08:50 AM)stever20 Wrote:  And yet another conference champion shows up in Belmont.

If Belmont wins the OVC with a new coaching staff and after having lost a steller player to the NBA, ... well not sure about what that says of the OVC and/or Belmont.

Murray St lost a stellar player(Morant) to the NBA as well....

20th conference champion is revealed in Western Kentucky.... So 63 teams left and all 63 from only 12 conferences now.

(09-03-2019 06:22 AM)stever20 Wrote:  

(09-02-2019 10:50 PM)bill dazzle Wrote:  

(08-29-2019 08:50 AM)stever20 Wrote:  And yet another conference champion shows up in Belmont.

If Belmont wins the OVC with a new coaching staff and after having lost a steller player to the NBA, ... well not sure about what that says of the OVC and/or Belmont.

Murray St lost a stellar player(Morant) to the NBA as well....

No doubt (and good point). It's almost always Belmont and Murray in the OVC. I have followed Belmont hoops since the mid-1980s and know the program rather well. There is a "system" in place at BU and it somewhat unusual. The fan base and coaching staff have been described as "provincial" (if you will). I'm not sure this is a fully fair criticism but I can see the reasoning behind it.

On this theme, I don't feel Belmont would be a strong addition (at least in every respect) for the Atlantic 10 were that league to lose, say, Davidson or Saint Louis to the Big East. The Belmont athletics admin, coaching staff and fan base would need to be willing to make some major changes for A10 membership to work well.

If the A10 loses teams I don't know that they reload. They right now have 14. If they were to lose for sake of discussion Saint Louis and Davidson- I think they just remain at 12 and their footprint really consolidates. Dayton, Duquesne, St Bonnies, UMass, Rhode Island, Fordham, La Salle/St Joe's, GMU/GWU, and VCU/Richmond. Definitely don't think Belmont would be an option then given their location- they would be on a major island.

(09-03-2019 10:11 AM)bill dazzle Wrote:  

(09-03-2019 06:22 AM)stever20 Wrote:  

(09-02-2019 10:50 PM)bill dazzle Wrote:  

(08-29-2019 08:50 AM)stever20 Wrote:  And yet another conference champion shows up in Belmont.

If Belmont wins the OVC with a new coaching staff and after having lost a steller player to the NBA, ... well not sure about what that says of the OVC and/or Belmont.

Murray St lost a stellar player(Morant) to the NBA as well....

No doubt (and good point). It's almost always Belmont and Murray in the OVC. I have followed Belmont hoops since the mid-1980s and know the program rather well. There is a "system" in place at BU and it somewhat unusual. The fan base and coaching staff have been described as "provincial" (if you will). I'm not sure this is a fully fair criticism but I can see the reasoning behind it.

On this theme, I don't feel Belmont would be a strong addition (at least in every respect) for the Atlantic 10 were that league to lose, say, Davidson or Saint Louis to the Big East. The Belmont athletics admin, coaching staff and fan base would need to be willing to make some major changes for A10 membership to work well.

The A10 would be best served by eliminating one or two members from the bottom, namely the ones that are lowest in athletic spending and success. It will never happen for obvious reasons, but it would definitely help for numerous reasons.

(09-03-2019 11:14 AM)GoldenWarrior11 Wrote:  

(09-03-2019 10:11 AM)bill dazzle Wrote:  

(09-03-2019 06:22 AM)stever20 Wrote:  

(09-02-2019 10:50 PM)bill dazzle Wrote:  

(08-29-2019 08:50 AM)stever20 Wrote:  And yet another conference champion shows up in Belmont.

If Belmont wins the OVC with a new coaching staff and after having lost a steller player to the NBA, ... well not sure about what that says of the OVC and/or Belmont.

Murray St lost a stellar player(Morant) to the NBA as well....

No doubt (and good point). It's almost always Belmont and Murray in the OVC. I have followed Belmont hoops since the mid-1980s and know the program rather well. There is a "system" in place at BU and it somewhat unusual. The fan base and coaching staff have been described as "provincial" (if you will). I'm not sure this is a fully fair criticism but I can see the reasoning behind it.

On this theme, I don't feel Belmont would be a strong addition (at least in every respect) for the Atlantic 10 were that league to lose, say, Davidson or Saint Louis to the Big East. The Belmont athletics admin, coaching staff and fan base would need to be willing to make some major changes for A10 membership to work well.

The A10 would be best served by eliminating one or two members from the bottom, namely the ones that are lowest in athletic spending and success. It will never happen for obvious reasons, but it would definitely help for numerous reasons.

I basically agree with this.

(09-03-2019 11:04 AM)stever20 Wrote:  If the A10 loses teams I don't know that they reload. They right now have 14. If they were to lose for sake of discussion Saint Louis and Davidson- I think they just remain at 12 and their footprint really consolidates. Dayton, Duquesne, St Bonnies, UMass, Rhode Island, Fordham, La Salle/St Joe's, GMU/GWU, and VCU/Richmond. Definitely don't think Belmont would be an option then given their location- they would be on a major island.

Very good point about Belmont being on an island. Losing Saint Louis and Davidson to the Big East would yield a A10 with a very Mid-Atlantic and Northeast focus and 12 teams. Not a bad thing at all. My gut feeling is the Big East stands pat, as does the A10 and this is all a moot point.

(09-03-2019 01:06 PM)bill dazzle Wrote:  

(09-03-2019 11:04 AM)stever20 Wrote:  If the A10 loses teams I don't know that they reload. They right now have 14. If they were to lose for sake of discussion Saint Louis and Davidson- I think they just remain at 12 and their footprint really consolidates. Dayton, Duquesne, St Bonnies, UMass, Rhode Island, Fordham, La Salle/St Joe's, GMU/GWU, and VCU/Richmond. Definitely don't think Belmont would be an option then given their location- they would be on a major island.

Very good point about Belmont being on an island. Losing Saint Louis and Davidson to the Big East would yield a A10 with a very Mid-Atlantic and Northeast focus and 12 teams. Not a bad thing at all. My gut feeling is the Big East stands pat, as does the A10 and this is all a moot point.

The really interesting thing would be if the AAC did get forced to take a fb team and they went fb only and added a VCU.

South Carolina shows up at #63, 15th team out of NCAA tourney.

(09-03-2019 01:14 PM)stever20 Wrote:  

(09-03-2019 01:06 PM)bill dazzle Wrote:  

(09-03-2019 11:04 AM)stever20 Wrote:  If the A10 loses teams I don't know that they reload. They right now have 14. If they were to lose for sake of discussion Saint Louis and Davidson- I think they just remain at 12 and their footprint really consolidates. Dayton, Duquesne, St Bonnies, UMass, Rhode Island, Fordham, La Salle/St Joe's, GMU/GWU, and VCU/Richmond. Definitely don't think Belmont would be an option then given their location- they would be on a major island.

Very good point about Belmont being on an island. Losing Saint Louis and Davidson to the Big East would yield a A10 with a very Mid-Atlantic and Northeast focus and 12 teams. Not a bad thing at all. My gut feeling is the Big East stands pat, as does the A10 and this is all a moot point.

The really interesting thing would be if the AAC did get forced to take a fb team and they went fb only and added a VCU.

Since VCU is superior to UConn, their TV deal will likely go up to eleventy billion annually.

(09-04-2019 08:03 AM)GoldenWarrior11 Wrote:  

(09-03-2019 01:14 PM)stever20 Wrote:  

(09-03-2019 01:06 PM)bill dazzle Wrote:  

(09-03-2019 11:04 AM)stever20 Wrote:  If the A10 loses teams I don't know that they reload. They right now have 14. If they were to lose for sake of discussion Saint Louis and Davidson- I think they just remain at 12 and their footprint really consolidates. Dayton, Duquesne, St Bonnies, UMass, Rhode Island, Fordham, La Salle/St Joe's, GMU/GWU, and VCU/Richmond. Definitely don't think Belmont would be an option then given their location- they would be on a major island.

Very good point about Belmont being on an island. Losing Saint Louis and Davidson to the Big East would yield a A10 with a very Mid-Atlantic and Northeast focus and 12 teams. Not a bad thing at all. My gut feeling is the Big East stands pat, as does the A10 and this is all a moot point.

The really interesting thing would be if the AAC did get forced to take a fb team and they went fb only and added a VCU.

Since VCU is superior to UConn, their TV deal will likely go up to eleventy billion annually.

I think you meant 2 trillion

(09-04-2019 08:19 AM)stever20 Wrote:  

(09-04-2019 08:03 AM)GoldenWarrior11 Wrote:  

(09-03-2019 01:14 PM)stever20 Wrote:  

(09-03-2019 01:06 PM)bill dazzle Wrote:  

(09-03-2019 11:04 AM)stever20 Wrote:  If the A10 loses teams I don't know that they reload. They right now have 14. If they were to lose for sake of discussion Saint Louis and Davidson- I think they just remain at 12 and their footprint really consolidates. Dayton, Duquesne, St Bonnies, UMass, Rhode Island, Fordham, La Salle/St Joe's, GMU/GWU, and VCU/Richmond. Definitely don't think Belmont would be an option then given their location- they would be on a major island.

Very good point about Belmont being on an island. Losing Saint Louis and Davidson to the Big East would yield a A10 with a very Mid-Atlantic and Northeast focus and 12 teams. Not a bad thing at all. My gut feeling is the Big East stands pat, as does the A10 and this is all a moot point.

The really interesting thing would be if the AAC did get forced to take a fb team and they went fb only and added a VCU.

Since VCU is superior to UConn, their TV deal will likely go up to eleventy billion annually.

I think you meant 2 trillion

Of course. My mistake.

(08-27-2019 02:21 PM)stever20 Wrote:  

(08-27-2019 02:19 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  

(08-26-2019 09:24 PM)stever20 Wrote:  

(08-26-2019 08:41 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  

(08-26-2019 08:03 PM)stever20 Wrote:  had been traveling last couple of days. Missouri at 73 and USF at 72(and believe it or not- that's not a crazy projection).

A lot of AAC homers have them ahead of UCONN. Nice to see CollegeSportsMadness doesn't also live in fantasy-land.

don't think UConn will be all that much ahead of USF.....

The President of Fantasy-land has spoken.

I don't think UConn will be projected to be in the tourney, and they're only 20 spots left prior to the NCAA tourney now. So really the difference between UConn and USF isn't much at all..... 1/2 bounces- that's it.

10 spots and counting...

(09-04-2019 08:44 AM)GoldenWarrior11 Wrote:  

(09-04-2019 08:19 AM)stever20 Wrote:  

(09-04-2019 08:03 AM)GoldenWarrior11 Wrote:  

(09-03-2019 01:14 PM)stever20 Wrote:  

(09-03-2019 01:06 PM)bill dazzle Wrote:  Very good point about Belmont being on an island. Losing Saint Louis and Davidson to the Big East would yield a A10 with a very Mid-Atlantic and Northeast focus and 12 teams. Not a bad thing at all. My gut feeling is the Big East stands pat, as does the A10 and this is all a moot point.

The really interesting thing would be if the AAC did get forced to take a fb team and they went fb only and added a VCU.

Since VCU is superior to UConn, their TV deal will likely go up to eleventy billion annually.

I think you meant 2 trillion

Of course. My mistake.

Of note: VCU has an endowment (if this is correct) of about $1.8 billion and UConn's is $450 million.

One good reason, among many, for either the Big East or the American to invite VCU.

However, UConn clearly is the far more attractive choice of the two overall.

The next round of realignment could prove interesting for VCU.

Colorado shows up at #62. 5 Pac 12 teams left(same as AAC).

Meanwhile...7 Big East teams left (8 if you count future member UCONN).

(09-05-2019 07:57 AM)HuskyU Wrote:  Meanwhile...7 Big East teams left (8 if you count future member UCONN).

Not surprised whatsoever about Big East beating out the has-been Pac 12 in basketball rankings. I am a bit surprised that 10 SEC teams still remain, & I love Florida...