(07-30-2019 07:08 AM)esayem Wrote:  

(07-29-2019 11:17 PM)33laszlo99 Wrote:  

(07-29-2019 08:40 PM)CarlSmithCenter Wrote:  

(07-29-2019 08:09 PM)TerryD Wrote:  

(07-29-2019 02:47 PM)miko33 Wrote:  I think the future is exceedingly bright for UCONN football now that it's no longer shackled to the AAC. I don't have a good feel for what 2020 will look like due to scheduling tie ups for the next few years. However, I think this is what will become a "typical" FB schedule for UCONN by year 3 or 4 of independence:

[b][b]Expected Annual H/H games
Notre Dame[/b][/b]
BYU
Army
Navy
Syracuse
Boston College
UMASS - as one of the annual creampuff warm-up games - probably 1st thru 3rd game annually

Annual SEC/ACC scheduling agreement with 2 teams from each conf - H/H in Perpetuity
Typical annual matchups will include:
Florida State
Miami
North Carolina
Virginia
Alabama
Florida
Tennessee
Georgia

Annual Buy game for guaranteed home game
Any MAC/CUSA/MWC team will do here - no need to give it much more thought than that.

So here is a sample schedule I expect to see from UCONN in 2023 perhaps. I'm guessing 1 to 2 games a year could be neutral site games like Gillette Stadium or the Giant's home stadium.

UMASS
Alabama
Miami (FL)
Army
Georgia
Navy
North Carolina
BYU
Notre Dame
Marshall
Syracuse
Boston College

I think it is very unlikely that ND will play annual games against UConn or have a home/home series with UConn.

ND may offer a buy game in South Bend, maybe even that game combined with one at Gillette Stadium (or Fenway Park or Yankee Stadium or MetLife Stadium) but that would likely be the extent of it.

I wouldn't be so sure that the ACC or the SEC schools will go for home-and-home with an independent UConn. 1 off payday games or 2-1 maybe, but it would be a the weaker of the old Big East teams now in the ACC primarily, but even then I don’t see BC or Cuse agreeing to play every year. There is no scenario where Bama, Florida, Georgia, Miami, FSU or Tennessee give UConn 1 for 1 home and homes or probably even 2-1 terms. What possible benefit would there be for SEC teams to travel to a recruiting dead zone to play in front of an empty stadium in a non-tourist destination city in a game that won’t be televised or streamed nationally against a completely mediocre opponent? I think your regular opponents for alternating annual home and home will be Army, UMass, Liberty, New Mexico State, 5-6 G5 teams (MAC heavy, looking at you UBuffalo), 1 payday game or 2-1 against BYU or a middling P5 program and then an FCS school or 2, until they wise up and drop down to the CAA in FCS.

travel to a recruiting dead zone to
play in front of an empty stadium
in a non-tourist destination city
in a game that won’t be televised or streamed nationally
against a completely mediocre opponent

This is a painfully depressing description.... and sadly true.

As I mentioned above, I could see UConn get 1-1’s with P5’s like Wake, Duke, Indiana, Vandy, etc. they could secure larger opponents much like UMass does by playing their home game in a pro venue. In UConn’s case, Yankee Stadium; a destination venue.

Yeah I agree. They will get H&H with historically not strong P5 programs and local former rivals like Cuse, Rutgers and maybe Pitt. The only time they schedule the big dogs are when UConn is traveling to them for a one off body bag game.

(07-30-2019 07:08 AM)esayem Wrote:  As I mentioned above, I could see UConn get 1-1’s with P5’s like Wake, Duke, Indiana, Vandy, etc. they could secure larger opponents much like UMass does by playing their home game in a pro venue. In UConn’s case, Yankee Stadium; a destination venue.

Personally, I think UConn should be doubling and tripling down on their New York City presence, especially given the Big East return. Play a game at Yankee Stadium every year. Make it an annual tradition and do all sorts of alumni and outreach stuff as part of it. I went to UConn-Army there a couple years ago and all the bars immediately around the stadium set up to handle big baseball crowds turn into college-team-themed bars very easily. It was a good time.

UConn's 2020 schedule:

Tulane
Toledo
Boston College
Temple
Eastern Michigan
New Mexico State
Buffalo
USF
Liberty
Arkansas State
Army

How do I know this? Because it's UMass's 2022 schedule.

(07-30-2019 07:56 AM)Bogg Wrote:  

(07-30-2019 07:08 AM)esayem Wrote:  As I mentioned above, I could see UConn get 1-1’s with P5’s like Wake, Duke, Indiana, Vandy, etc. they could secure larger opponents much like UMass does by playing their home game in a pro venue. In UConn’s case, Yankee Stadium; a destination venue.

Personally, I think UConn should be doubling and tripling down on their New York City presence, especially given the Big East return. Play a game at Yankee Stadium every year. Make it an annual tradition and do all sorts of alumni and outreach stuff as part of it. I went to UConn-Army there a couple years ago and all the bars immediately around the stadium set up to handle big baseball crowds turn into college-team-themed bars very easily. It was a good time.

Wasn't that an Army home game?

(07-30-2019 11:50 AM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  

(07-30-2019 07:56 AM)Bogg Wrote:  

(07-30-2019 07:08 AM)esayem Wrote:  As I mentioned above, I could see UConn get 1-1’s with P5’s like Wake, Duke, Indiana, Vandy, etc. they could secure larger opponents much like UMass does by playing their home game in a pro venue. In UConn’s case, Yankee Stadium; a destination venue.

Personally, I think UConn should be doubling and tripling down on their New York City presence, especially given the Big East return. Play a game at Yankee Stadium every year. Make it an annual tradition and do all sorts of alumni and outreach stuff as part of it. I went to UConn-Army there a couple years ago and all the bars immediately around the stadium set up to handle big baseball crowds turn into college-team-themed bars very easily. It was a good time.

Wasn't that an Army home game?

I think Army was the "home" team, but it was at Yankee Stadium regardless.

(07-30-2019 12:03 PM)Bogg Wrote:  

(07-30-2019 11:50 AM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  

(07-30-2019 07:56 AM)Bogg Wrote:  

(07-30-2019 07:08 AM)esayem Wrote:  As I mentioned above, I could see UConn get 1-1’s with P5’s like Wake, Duke, Indiana, Vandy, etc. they could secure larger opponents much like UMass does by playing their home game in a pro venue. In UConn’s case, Yankee Stadium; a destination venue.

Personally, I think UConn should be doubling and tripling down on their New York City presence, especially given the Big East return. Play a game at Yankee Stadium every year. Make it an annual tradition and do all sorts of alumni and outreach stuff as part of it. I went to UConn-Army there a couple years ago and all the bars immediately around the stadium set up to handle big baseball crowds turn into college-team-themed bars very easily. It was a good time.

Wasn't that an Army home game?

I think Army was the "home" team, but it was at Yankee Stadium regardless.

How was the crowd? I mean split between Husky fans and Woop fans?

(07-30-2019 12:06 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  

(07-30-2019 12:03 PM)Bogg Wrote:  

(07-30-2019 11:50 AM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  

(07-30-2019 07:56 AM)Bogg Wrote:  

(07-30-2019 07:08 AM)esayem Wrote:  As I mentioned above, I could see UConn get 1-1’s with P5’s like Wake, Duke, Indiana, Vandy, etc. they could secure larger opponents much like UMass does by playing their home game in a pro venue. In UConn’s case, Yankee Stadium; a destination venue.

Personally, I think UConn should be doubling and tripling down on their New York City presence, especially given the Big East return. Play a game at Yankee Stadium every year. Make it an annual tradition and do all sorts of alumni and outreach stuff as part of it. I went to UConn-Army there a couple years ago and all the bars immediately around the stadium set up to handle big baseball crowds turn into college-team-themed bars very easily. It was a good time.

Wasn't that an Army home game?

I think Army was the "home" team, but it was at Yankee Stadium regardless.

How was the crowd? I mean split between Husky fans and Woop fans?

This is entirely unscientific, but my recollection is that the crowd was pretty split between the two fan bases. UConn travels well to New York and sheer numbers mean there are a lot of veterans and military families in and around the city (and you're just down the river from West Point anyway) so neither aside drowned out the other. The showing was better than a random cold November Saturday in East Hartford, I'll tell you that (and that's coming from someone who had four years worth of football season tickets as a student and actually used them).

Dates could change but all of these teams have an opening on their schedule for 2020.

9/3 UMass*
9/12 @Illinois*
9/19 @TCU
9/26 Indiana*
10/3 UCF (H&H)
10/10 @SMU (H&H)
10/17 @ Louisiana (H&H)
10/24 ODU (H&H)
10/31
11/7 FCS (TBD)
11/14 @ ULM (H&H)
11/21 Maine (FCS moved from 9/19)*
11/28 @NMSU (H&H)

* game was previously scheduled

(07-29-2019 10:27 PM)miko33 Wrote:  

(07-29-2019 09:27 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  

(07-29-2019 02:47 PM)miko33 Wrote:  I think the future is exceedingly bright for UCONN football now that it's no longer shackled to the AAC. I don't have a good feel for what 2020 will look like due to scheduling tie ups for the next few years. However, I think this is what will become a "typical" FB schedule for UCONN by year 3 or 4 of independence:

Expected Annual H/H games
Notre Dame
BYU
Army
Navy
Syracuse
Boston College
UMASS - as one of the annual creampuff warm-up games - probably 1st thru 3rd game annually

Annual SEC/ACC scheduling agreement with 2 teams from each conf - H/H in Perpetuity
Typical annual matchups will include:
Florida State
Miami
North Carolina
Virginia
Alabama
Florida
Tennessee
Georgia

Annual Buy game for guaranteed home game
Any MAC/CUSA/MWC team will do here - no need to give it much more thought than that.

So here is a sample schedule I expect to see from UCONN in 2023 perhaps. I'm guessing 1 to 2 games a year could be neutral site games like Gillette Stadium or the Giant's home stadium.

UMASS
Alabama
Miami (FL)
Army
Georgia
Navy
North Carolina
BYU
Notre Dame
Marshall
Syracuse
Boston College

This^. No question.
UCONN will get H&H’s with Notre Dame and Alabama.

I sense sarcasm. No worries though. All UCONN has to do is dangle out MBB and WBB scheduling agreements with the various ACC/SEC teams to make it happen. They could probably get away with 2 for 1 BB agreements in order to secure H/H agreements for FB games with all ACC and SEC schools.

You may be right but I think the allure of including UConn men’s basketball games has been seriously diminished by the downturn under Coach Ollie. I don’t doubt that Hurley can improve the situation but, at least for the ACC schools, they are going to a 20 game MBB schedule so there will be fewer OOC games for UVa, UNC, Duke, Cuse, Wake et al each year. Those ACC schools could schedule OOC games with Nova, Georgetown, St. John’s, Providence or Seton Hall and get the recruiting, whatever-they-call-RPI now benefits of playing a Northeastern Big East team without having to deal with the football baggage that comes with the Huskies.

(07-30-2019 07:56 AM)Bogg Wrote:  

(07-30-2019 07:08 AM)esayem Wrote:  As I mentioned above, I could see UConn get 1-1’s with P5’s like Wake, Duke, Indiana, Vandy, etc. they could secure larger opponents much like UMass does by playing their home game in a pro venue. In UConn’s case, Yankee Stadium; a destination venue.

Personally, I think UConn should be doubling and tripling down on their New York City presence, especially given the Big East return. Play a game at Yankee Stadium every year. Make it an annual tradition and do all sorts of alumni and outreach stuff as part of it. I went to UConn-Army there a couple years ago and all the bars immediately around the stadium set up to handle big baseball crowds turn into college-team-themed bars very easily. It was a good time.

Where was the Notre Dame series supposed to be? East Rutherford?

UConn could try to get a few games there as well. Maybe Penn State.

(07-30-2019 12:36 PM)Georgia_Power_Company Wrote:  Dates could change but all of these teams have an opening on their schedule for 2020.

9/3 UMass*
9/12 @Illinois*
9/19 @TCU
9/26 Indiana*
10/3 UCF (H&H)
10/10 @SMU (H&H)
10/17 @ Louisiana (H&H)
10/24 ODU (H&H)
10/31
11/7 FCS (TBD)
11/14 @ ULM (H&H)
11/21 Maine (FCS moved from 9/19)*
11/28 @NMSU (H&H)

* game was previously scheduled

Yeah, that’s much better than being in the AAC!!!

Mass
@Illinois
Maine
Indiana
@ Louisiana
@ Ark
UNLV
@ SMU
Bye
Army
Villanova
@ So Car
@ NMST

I know Cuse will not want to play UConn yearly. Probably more likely 2-4 times a decade. Cuse fans also do not want it a strictly H/H affair. More like a 2 for 1 or 1 at the Dome and 1 at Yankee Stadium.

(07-31-2019 06:51 AM)TexanMark Wrote:  I know Cuse will not want to play UConn yearly. Probably more likely 2-4 times a decade. Cuse fans also do not want it a strictly H/H affair. More like a 2 for 1 or 1 at the Dome and 1 at Yankee Stadium.

If UConn survives as an independent they will probably try to rotate CUSE, Rutgers, PITT, and BC in and out of the schedule. None of those schools will want to play them annually, however they might rotate in and out 2-4 times a decade as you say.

Maybe Alabama or Auburn could have them as their late OOC game before the iron bowl. It would be a buy game and it would get the FCS game off the books for them, the score will be whatever Alabama wants it to be.

(07-31-2019 07:19 AM)panite Wrote:  

(07-31-2019 06:51 AM)TexanMark Wrote:  I know Cuse will not want to play UConn yearly. Probably more likely 2-4 times a decade. Cuse fans also do not want it a strictly H/H affair. More like a 2 for 1 or 1 at the Dome and 1 at Yankee Stadium.

If UConn survives as an independent they will probably try to rotate CUSE, Rutgers, PITT, and BC in and out of the schedule. None of those schools will want to play them annually, however they might rotate in and out 2-4 times a decade as you say.

With only 3 OOC games (4 for the ACC teams) and the Lambert Schools split across 4 Conferences, it would only be a 2-4 times a decade anyway. UConn probably won't have more than 2 Lambert FBS schools on the schedule in any season.

(07-30-2019 07:14 PM)esayem Wrote:  

(07-30-2019 07:56 AM)Bogg Wrote:  

(07-30-2019 07:08 AM)esayem Wrote:  As I mentioned above, I could see UConn get 1-1’s with P5’s like Wake, Duke, Indiana, Vandy, etc. they could secure larger opponents much like UMass does by playing their home game in a pro venue. In UConn’s case, Yankee Stadium; a destination venue.

Personally, I think UConn should be doubling and tripling down on their New York City presence, especially given the Big East return. Play a game at Yankee Stadium every year. Make it an annual tradition and do all sorts of alumni and outreach stuff as part of it. I went to UConn-Army there a couple years ago and all the bars immediately around the stadium set up to handle big baseball crowds turn into college-team-themed bars very easily. It was a good time.

Where was the Notre Dame series supposed to be? East Rutherford?

UConn could try to get a few games there as well. Maybe Penn State.

What about Gillette, it's closer to your campus than ours. We've worked through the FBS transition and no longer need to play there. All teams, are playing on campus including BYU and UConn.

Mike033, not sure who the cream puff is since we beat UConn last year at their house. We also beat BYU at BYU and the Sun Belt conference champs App State at home.

(07-31-2019 07:19 AM)panite Wrote:  

(07-31-2019 06:51 AM)TexanMark Wrote:  I know Cuse will not want to play UConn yearly. Probably more likely 2-4 times a decade. Cuse fans also do not want it a strictly H/H affair. More like a 2 for 1 or 1 at the Dome and 1 at Yankee Stadium.

If UConn survives as an independent they will probably try to rotate CUSE, Rutgers, PITT, and BC in and out of the schedule. None of those schools will want to play them annually, however they might rotate in and out 2-4 times a decade as you say.

And I doubt any of the old BE rivals want to give UConn a true 1 for 1. I don't know about BC though.

To me it appears UConn is dropping down in stature to a UMass level. Unless Cuse is in a hurt schedule wise (see WMU series) not sure they are likely to do a Home n Home. Cuse announced attendance is expected to rise 7-8000 this year up to 44-45,000.

(07-31-2019 08:41 AM)megadrone Wrote:  

(07-31-2019 07:19 AM)panite Wrote:  

(07-31-2019 06:51 AM)TexanMark Wrote:  I know Cuse will not want to play UConn yearly. Probably more likely 2-4 times a decade. Cuse fans also do not want it a strictly H/H affair. More like a 2 for 1 or 1 at the Dome and 1 at Yankee Stadium.

If UConn survives as an independent they will probably try to rotate CUSE, Rutgers, PITT, and BC in and out of the schedule. None of those schools will want to play them annually, however they might rotate in and out 2-4 times a decade as you say.

With only 3 OOC games (4 for the ACC teams) and the Lambert Schools split across 4 Conferences, it would only be a 2-4 times a decade anyway. UConn probably won't have more than 2 Lambert FBS schools on the schedule in any season.

I could see both Rutgers and Cuse offering up a home game and a split the gate game 2 game series at Yankee Stadium with UConn.

Met Life is too big of a venue for Cuse/UConn. Probably for Rutgers/UConn too. However, MetLife allows September and October dates.

(07-31-2019 09:25 AM)TexanMark Wrote:  

(07-31-2019 08:41 AM)megadrone Wrote:  

(07-31-2019 07:19 AM)panite Wrote:  

(07-31-2019 06:51 AM)TexanMark Wrote:  I know Cuse will not want to play UConn yearly. Probably more likely 2-4 times a decade. Cuse fans also do not want it a strictly H/H affair. More like a 2 for 1 or 1 at the Dome and 1 at Yankee Stadium.

If UConn survives as an independent they will probably try to rotate CUSE, Rutgers, PITT, and BC in and out of the schedule. None of those schools will want to play them annually, however they might rotate in and out 2-4 times a decade as you say.

With only 3 OOC games (4 for the ACC teams) and the Lambert Schools split across 4 Conferences, it would only be a 2-4 times a decade anyway. UConn probably won't have more than 2 Lambert FBS schools on the schedule in any season.

I could see both Rutgers and Cuse offering up a home game and a split the gate game 2 game series at Yankee Stadium with UConn.

Met Life is too big of a venue for Cuse/UConn. Probably for Rutgers/UConn too. However, MetLife allows September and October dates.

With the current state of Rutgers football UConn might be asking for the 2 for 1 as an independent. Hopefully this is the last year under Ash and things will improve.