To invite Cincinnati right after UConn bolts for the Big East would be the ultimate kick in the jimmies for UConn.

(06-25-2019 08:24 AM)Shannon Panther Wrote:  To invite Cincinnati right after UConn bolts for the Big East would be the ultimate kick in the jimmies for UConn.

LOL. The Butthurt Boneyard, who at times actually makes WVU faithful look sane, would melt down to epic proportions. It also would be a sign that heavy drug use is highly prevalent in Greensboro in addition to at least 12 of the 15 ACC schools' leadership.

THE ACC Doesn't need to expand.. Unless Wake Forest has announced they are replacing UCONN in the American???

(06-25-2019 07:27 AM)XLance Wrote:  

(06-24-2019 03:33 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  

(06-24-2019 02:42 PM)Wear Purple Wrote:  You got it.

No need to tinker. And, if you do, shoot above what you have. Don't settle (for purgatory).

There is the "corporate merger strategy" vis-a-vis Fuhrer Mickey reshuffling assets he more or less owns outright in the three big conferences. But if you think the NCAA is a dark side just wait until you see what Disney can do.

When you see that the ACC is sending NC State to the SEC in return for Vanderbilt, then you will know that the Mouse shuffle is "ON".
If the Mouse is going to reshuffle assets, then it only makes sense to start splitting additional states so that dual marketing can take place in Florida, Georgia, South Carolina, North Carolina, Kentucky and Tennessee, but I'm personally drawing the line at having to accept a school from the State of Alabama for Virginia Tech....we have been soiled enough.

This isn’t pogs or Pokémon cards, that’s not happening.

I wonder if Cincinnati would accept the same deal as ND ? It wouldn’t be that bad for their football program

5 acc games
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Find 3 more games per year

(06-25-2019 08:28 AM)Wear Purple Wrote:  

(06-25-2019 08:24 AM)Shannon Panther Wrote:  To invite Cincinnati right after UConn bolts for the Big East would be the ultimate kick in the jimmies for UConn.

LOL. The Butthurt Boneyard, who at times actually makes WVU faithful look sane, would melt down to epic proportions. It also would be a sign that heavy drug use is highly prevalent in Greensboro in addition to at least 12 of the 15 ACC schools' leadership.

I thought SU fans were the only ones who realized this.

As the paradigm shifts to streaming, I think the conferences will start to become smaller again. I think conferences have 1 more big ESPN, FOX, or NBC contract left before ala cart ramps all the way up and those networks begin to lose a shitton of money.

Don't underestimate the mouse. Remember the BC AD saying, "they told us who to pick?" ESPN has to maintain the illusion of neutrality so I doubt it was quite that straight forward. However, I don't doubt that ESPN dropped some "hints"

Could/would Disney facilitate a swap like NCSU/Vandy? Considering those schools lengthy history to their conferences and relationships with in-state schools, it would be a tough sell but, yes, I think Disney could make that happen.

(06-25-2019 10:33 AM)Wolfman Wrote:  Don't underestimate the mouse. Remember the BC AD saying, "they told us who to pick?" ESPN has to maintain the illusion of neutrality so I doubt it was quite that straight forward. However, I don't doubt that ESPN dropped some "hints"

Could/would Disney facilitate a swap like NCSU/Vandy? Considering those schools lengthy history to their conferences and relationships with in-state schools, it would be a tough sell but, yes, I think Disney could make that happen.

Your name isn't George McFly is it?

(06-25-2019 09:43 AM)ClairtonPanther Wrote:  As the paradigm shifts to streaming, I think the conferences will start to become smaller again. I think conferences have 1 more big ESPN, FOX, or NBC contract left before ala cart ramps all the way up and those networks begin to lose a shitton of money.

I am with you on this. The new ACC will have only 9 or 10 teams. I wonder whether VT will remain or move to another conference.

(06-25-2019 07:27 AM)XLance Wrote:  

(06-24-2019 03:33 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  

(06-24-2019 02:42 PM)Wear Purple Wrote:  You got it.

No need to tinker. And, if you do, shoot above what you have. Don't settle (for purgatory).

There is the "corporate merger strategy" vis-a-vis Fuhrer Mickey reshuffling assets he more or less owns outright in the three big conferences. But if you think the NCAA is a dark side just wait until you see what Disney can do.

When you see that the ACC is sending NC State to the SEC in return for Vanderbilt, then you will know that the Mouse shuffle is "ON".
If the Mouse is going to reshuffle assets, then it only makes sense to start splitting additional states so that dual marketing can take place in Florida, Georgia, South Carolina, North Carolina, Kentucky and Tennessee, but I'm personally drawing the line at having to accept a school from the State of Alabama for Virginia Tech....we have been soiled enough.

NC State is worth more than Vandy. Whoever makes that trade should check into rehab ASAP! Vandy is more like Wake Forest than State...

(06-25-2019 12:49 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  NC State is worth more than Vandy. Whoever makes that trade should check into rehab ASAP! Vandy is more like Wake Forest than State...

More trivia for Tuesday...

NC State's last ACC FB championship: 1979
Wake Forest's last ACC FB championship: 2006

NC State's last ACC MBB championship: 1983
Wake Forest's last ACC MBB championship: 1996 (and 1995)

NC State's last ACC Baseball championship: 1992
Wake Forest's last ACC Baseball championship: 2001 (and 1999 & 1998)

(06-24-2019 08:25 PM)CardinalJim Wrote:  

(06-24-2019 02:04 PM)nole Wrote:  There are only about 3 schools (ND, Penn State, Texas) that would add any money to the ACC. Cinci isn't close to being one of them.

Notre Dame will NEVER become a full member of The ACC. That’s a pipe dream.

Penn State isn’t worth the headache. Everything but football sucks at PSU. Don’t see their Olympic Sports adding much to The ACC Network.

Texas, on the other hand, would be an excellent associate member like Notre Dame. Their Olympic Sports would be a welcome addition to The ACC Network. Easy to roll The LHN into The ACC Network.

Agree with you.

While this thread started out as "what would Cincy accept?" thread ... I don't think my Cards will ever be in a conference with Cincinnati ever again.

I do think that the ACC is set up perfectly, to attract Texas with an ND deal.

-- Texas gets to act like a big deal by saying they're going independent in football.
-- Texas gets to associate itself with all other sports in a conference with like academic excellence (UNC, UVA, Duke, Ga Tech, etc.).
-- ACC gets to add a GIGANTIC state, that is growing faster than any other sans Florida, to it's footprint, and enjoy the marketing associated with that.
-- ACC out-of-conference schedules add traditional power Texas, like the Notre Dame deal, which increases the perception of the OOC for all ACC schools.


Ironically ... Texas doing this opens up a spot for Cincinnati to join the Big XII. Which I think they do ... and while weakened, I think the Big XII still stays in the P5, as they snatch up the top of the AAC, and MW, to fortify their league.


But I think the only way any of this happens, is if Oklahoma bolts to the SEC or Big Ten. If Oklahoma is staying put, I think Texas stays put.

And none of this matters ....

(06-25-2019 12:55 PM)Wear Purple Wrote:  

(06-25-2019 12:49 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  NC State is worth more than Vandy. Whoever makes that trade should check into rehab ASAP! Vandy is more like Wake Forest than State...

More trivia for Tuesday...

NC State's last ACC FB championship: 1979
Wake Forest's last ACC FB championship: 2006

NC State's last ACC MBB championship: 1983
Wake Forest's last ACC MBB championship: 1996 (and 1995)

NC State's last ACC Baseball championship: 1992
Wake Forest's last ACC Baseball championship: 2001 (and 1999 & 1998)

And what do you call things not related to elephants?

(06-25-2019 08:24 AM)Shannon Panther Wrote:  To invite Cincinnati right after UConn bolts for the Big East would be the ultimate kick in the jimmies for UConn.

And that melt down would be pretty fun to watch.

(06-25-2019 01:34 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  And what do you call things not related to elephants?

I dunno. In times like this, I normally just guess ODU.

Here's an idea: lets take this thread and put it in a paper bag. Then put it on the Big XII's doorstep and light it on fire !

Ring the doorbell and snicker, snicker snicker...into the night

(06-25-2019 12:55 PM)Wear Purple Wrote:  

(06-25-2019 12:49 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  NC State is worth more than Vandy. Whoever makes that trade should check into rehab ASAP! Vandy is more like Wake Forest than State...

More trivia for Tuesday...

NC State's last ACC FB championship: 1979
Wake Forest's last ACC FB championship: 2006

NC State's last ACC MBB championship: 1983
Wake Forest's last ACC MBB championship: 1996 (and 1995)

NC State's last ACC Baseball championship: 1992
Wake Forest's last ACC Baseball championship: 2001 (and 1999 & 1998)

(06-25-2019 01:04 PM)Pervis_Griffith Wrote:  

(06-24-2019 08:25 PM)CardinalJim Wrote:  

(06-24-2019 02:04 PM)nole Wrote:  There are only about 3 schools (ND, Penn State, Texas) that would add any money to the ACC. Cinci isn't close to being one of them.

Notre Dame will NEVER become a full member of The ACC. That’s a pipe dream.

Penn State isn’t worth the headache. Everything but football sucks at PSU. Don’t see their Olympic Sports adding much to The ACC Network.

Texas, on the other hand, would be an excellent associate member like Notre Dame. Their Olympic Sports would be a welcome addition to The ACC Network. Easy to roll The LHN into The ACC Network.

Agree with you.

While this thread started out as "what would Cincy accept?" thread ... I don't think my Cards will ever be in a conference with Cincinnati ever again.

I do think that the ACC is set up perfectly, to attract Texas with an ND deal.

-- Texas gets to act like a big deal by saying they're going independent in football.
-- Texas gets to associate itself with all other sports in a conference with like academic excellence (UNC, UVA, Duke, Ga Tech, etc.).
-- ACC gets to add a GIGANTIC state, that is growing faster than any other sans Florida, to it's footprint, and enjoy the marketing associated with that.
-- ACC out-of-conference schedules add traditional power Texas, like the Notre Dame deal, which increases the perception of the OOC for all ACC schools.


Ironically ... Texas doing this opens up a spot for Cincinnati to join the Big XII. Which I think they do ... and while weakened, I think the Big XII still stays in the P5, as they snatch up the top of the AAC, and MW, to fortify their league.


But I think the only way any of this happens, is if Oklahoma bolts to the SEC or Big Ten. If Oklahoma is staying put, I think Texas stays put.

And none of this matters ....

IF Oklahoma does bolt and Texas does take the ND type deal, having an outpost in the state of Tennessee makes that trade just a little more attractive to parties on both sides of the Mississippi.
Nashville to Louisville to South Bend cuts a swath right up the middle of the B1G.

(06-25-2019 11:06 AM)random asian guy Wrote:  

(06-25-2019 09:43 AM)ClairtonPanther Wrote:  As the paradigm shifts to streaming, I think the conferences will start to become smaller again. I think conferences have 1 more big ESPN, FOX, or NBC contract left before ala cart ramps all the way up and those networks begin to lose a shitton of money.

I am with you on this. The new ACC will have only 9 or 10 teams. I wonder whether VT will remain or move to another conference.

If conferences do start to shrink in size where do the teams go? A new conference?
If contraction does occur hopefully The ACC would use tickets sold and athletic revenue as benchmarks for surviving members.