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RE: UConn fans do not realize this is a different Big East than the old Big East
(06-25-2019 01:48 AM)UConn123 Wrote: (06-24-2019 09:14 AM)TripleA Wrote: Bottom line is that UConn admin and fans decided they are a basketball school, and they don't really care about football. I get it. I just wonder how much money they wasted with that effort since they moved to FBS, b/c football is going to die on the vine. But they were doing so poorly anyway, I don't suppose it matters.
They're so bad, even CUSA and the Fun Belt are reportedly not interested in their football. I think they should go back to FCS.
But...I hold no ill will toward them. I understand why they're doing it. Just glad it's not my school. But a southern school that has been playing football for 107 years has a whole different attitude about college football than does a school in CT that started FBS in 2002.
Good luck. There is nothing wrong with trying to be Villanova.
As a lifelong Connecticut resident, UConn alum, and die-hard UConn fan, let me just say that you hit the nail on the head with your post.
I can tell you with certainty from growing up in Connecticut, going to UConn, and personally knowing 200+ friends, family, coworkers etc. that went to or are associated with the university that 60-70% of UConn fans are completely INDIFFERENT towards the football team.
We have no history, pedigree, or tradition with our football program, if we did and the football program was still as bad as it is now, I would absolutely HATE this decision by the university because we would actually have something worth saving.
However, the facts are these, In the short time we have been an FBS team we have been a mediocre to slightly above-average program even during our best year when we went to a fluke Fiesta Bowl in 2011 on an 8-4 record and got trounced by Oklahoma. Quite simply, the football "experiment" did not work.
We are located in BY FAR the worst recruiting grounds in the country. The northeast is a literal wasteland when it comes to football talent. Vermont, New Hampshire, and Maine have never produced a single 4* prospect, let alone a 5*. Rhode Island has never produced a 5*. NYC for obvious reasons doesn't have much football talent. The few 4* kids that come out of CT each year don't even schedule visits to UConn, they all end up going to Michigan, Notre Dame, Penn State, etc. This leaves us with no one thats even good enough to recruit in our state. So, what do we do then you ask? Well, we go and pick up the scraps and leftovers from NJ, PA, FL, and the DMV area to fill out our 100+ ranked recruiting classes every year. Not really a recipe for success at the AAC level, let alone the national level.
We are a basketball school. Always have been, always will be and I am extremely happy and proud of our identity as such. This move by the admins finally acknowledges and accepts this fact. Did we NEED this move for basketball? No, I don't believe we needed it, but it is absolutely the right move for a variety of reasons which other posters have already mentioned so I won't reiterate.
You guys can enjoy your football and your basketball in the AAC, but we are going to enjoy our basketball with old time rivals that fully prioritize the sport above all else. We are going all in on trying to return our basketball program to one that is elite and has national championship aspirations. We have a promising head coach that has proven he can build top 25 programs in Rhode Island of all places with very limited resources, and we already have a top 25 recruiting class in his first year. The future of our program is finally looking bright for first time since we lifted that trophy back in 2014 and I couldn't be any happier along with millions of other UConn fans.
As far as the football program is concerned, if it dies I won't be dancing on its grave, but I sure as hell won't cry either.
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Bravo. I couldn’t agree more with what you said. It really comes down to a school’s DNA, and we have different DNA than most schools in this league. Our DNA is that a northern based school that lives and breathes for college basketball. As you said, most UConn fans (and northeasterners in general) are indifferent to college football (and it particularly shows in New England). Our bad coaching hires and dumpster fire W-L record didn’t help our cause either. That isn’t on the AAC. It is squarely on us and on the fact that it is hard to attract a good football coach to a part of the country with no good local recruits.
The exact opposite is true of our southern conference mates. College (and even high school) football is in their DNA and that live and breathe for that while basketball takes a lesser slot in their pecking order.
UConn’s struggles in the AAC in men’s basketball weren’t the conferences fault either, but it is harder to recruit a NYC kid when four hour plane trips to faraway cities are the norm and not the exception (Creighton will be our lone really long flight now). All that travel blows up the budget and makes it hard really hard on student athletes.
As for expansion, even though a Big 12 invite would have covered travel costs, all of those schools are nowhere near us and still wouldn’t have felt like conference rivals (the Big 12 wasn’t taking us anyway with UCF and Cincinnati football available with better geography/recruiting for them). The Big Ten was never taking UConn due to its short FBS history (and the hard lessons learned by taking Rutgers and Maryland into their fold). Our only shot was the ACC and we have failed on multiple attempts to gain access to that league due to the lawsuit and BC opposing our entry. I will say that I am taking joy knowing that our ability to recruit NYC better again will make it harder on BC, Syracuse, and Pitt to get some of the great players with us in the mix as a Big East team. They all gleefully voted “no” to our ACC addition and hoped to kill our program and eliminate us as competition. Sorry, ACC, but it isn’t going down like that now. NYC kids want to play in MSG and UConn is closer to NYC than any of those schools. I fully expect a recruiting uptick to happen.
I could have been happy staying in the AAC (basketball is definitely on the rise and Wichita, Houston, Cincy, Memphis, and Temple are all strong programs) but this decision just makes sense for UConn and its fan base in the long run. Geography SHOULD matter to conference affiliations and this geography works perfectly for us.
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