UNT have the ingredients to make a strong impression this year.

Timing in life is everything, and that might be the perfect time to show off a competitive ranked team.

(06-24-2019 09:50 AM)rileylives Wrote:  UNT have the ingredients to make a strong impression this year.

Timing in life is everything, and that might be the perfect time to show off a competitive ranked team.

I don't think SMU will let them in.

(06-24-2019 09:53 AM)FAU Connoisseur! Wrote:  

(06-24-2019 09:50 AM)rileylives Wrote:  UNT have the ingredients to make a strong impression this year.

Timing in life is everything, and that might be the perfect time to show off a competitive ranked team.

I don't think SMU will let them in.

Yeah, I had made a similar point earlier.

(06-24-2019 09:29 AM)EagNBran Wrote:  Why don't those 30,000 alumni within 30 minutes come to your games?

Excellent Question.
Sadly, most MT/alums are : 1. UT, Vandy, or Bama Fans from birth to grave.
2. Too Busy,or Apathetic
4. Spent all their damn money on Titans/Predators.
5. Our marketing and promotions suck.

(06-24-2019 09:53 AM)FAU Connoisseur! Wrote:  

(06-24-2019 09:50 AM)rileylives Wrote:  UNT have the ingredients to make a strong impression this year.

Timing in life is everything, and that might be the perfect time to show off a competitive ranked team.

I don't think SMU will let them in.

Agreed. UNT would otherwise be a contender, but I think the location in the same market as SMU is a major hurdle.

Paul Finebaum mentioned in a radio interview this morning that he thought UAB was the best candidate. Interesting perspective given how much he dogged us in years past.

I just hope that someone gets picked and the resulting instability cracks this DOA conference in half so each group can reorganize into better, more sustainable conferences.

#winwinwin

(06-24-2019 09:55 AM)BlueRaiderBoy Wrote:  

(06-24-2019 09:29 AM)EagNBran Wrote:  Why don't those 30,000 alumni within 30 minutes come to your games?

Excellent Question.
Sadly, most MT/alums are : 1. UT, Vandy, or Bama Fans from birth to grave.
2. Too Busy,or Apathetic
4. Spent all their damn money on Titans/Predators.
5. Our marketing and promotions suck.

Leadership.

MT has no leadership.

Plus, I'm pretty sure we've went in ad naseum about the lifetime contract the head coach got without producing an outright conference title. Since that contract went into place you have seen a steady downward trend in attendance.

Oh, and LMFAO at these threads.

(06-24-2019 10:02 AM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  

(06-24-2019 09:55 AM)BlueRaiderBoy Wrote:  

(06-24-2019 09:29 AM)EagNBran Wrote:  Why don't those 30,000 alumni within 30 minutes come to your games?

Excellent Question.
Sadly, most MT/alums are : 1. UT, Vandy, or Bama Fans from birth to grave.
2. Too Busy,or Apathetic
4. Spent all their damn money on Titans/Predators.
5. Our marketing and promotions suck.

Leadership.

MT has no leadership.

Plus, I'm pretty sure we've went in ad naseum about the lifetime contract the head coach got without producing an outright conference title. Since that contract went into place you have seen a steady downward trend in attendance.

Oh, and LMFAO at these threads.

Right. Since I left out Leadership and didn't have a number 3 reason; let's add 3. Leadership! MT's Leadership is mediocre at best.

(06-24-2019 09:55 AM)hooverblazer Wrote:  

(06-24-2019 09:53 AM)FAU Connoisseur! Wrote:  

(06-24-2019 09:50 AM)rileylives Wrote:  UNT have the ingredients to make a strong impression this year.

Timing in life is everything, and that might be the perfect time to show off a competitive ranked team.

I don't think SMU will let them in.

Agreed. UNT would otherwise be a contender, but I think the location in the same market as SMU is a major hurdle.

Paul Finebaum mentioned in a radio interview this morning that he thought UAB was the best candidate. Interesting perspective given how much he dogged us in years past.

Eww..... The fact that he also agrees with me about UAB makes me shiver.

(06-24-2019 09:32 AM)Kruciff Wrote:  

(06-24-2019 07:15 AM)EagNBran Wrote:  

(06-24-2019 12:29 AM)Sideshow2313 Wrote:  

(06-23-2019 11:37 PM)DustMyBroom Wrote:  

(06-23-2019 10:45 PM)Sideshow2313 Wrote:  

I love flat out ignorant comments like this. You just informed everyone that you don’t know what you are talking about.

(06-23-2019 11:38 PM)Sideshow2313 Wrote:  

(06-23-2019 10:53 PM)rileylives Wrote:  Marshall and academics? Are you talking about grey shirts/props?

I’m of the opinion they have a place, but that’s an entirely too long philosophical discussion...

Yes not allowed in AAC, NCAA minimum is minimum for admission to the university.

S.Miss needs to double its budget, needs to quit bitching about $ if they have so much $$$. The years of bitching about $$ is not a good look for a school who wants to move up. If they have the $ they should start spending all they find bc in AAC it is expected to improve your facilities and increase your budget. The few million increases in AAC contract will be less than the expected budget increase from S.Miss current level.

As for Marshall, everybody is Carnegie classification school so that means nothing. Most of AAC has been in conference with Marshall and Presidents/Boosters have seen who they get on their team. MU has had a competitive advantage yet people know MU can't pull that in AAC; so that's a huge negative indicator wither MU can be competitive in FB.

Not starting a fight just saying the CUSA MU will be a better team than AAC MU. You should want the truth and I don't want you to get your hopes up.

While you are correct that USM’s budget is an issue, there’s also the apathy factor our fans are dealing with after being passed up twice and now playing schools in conference no one cares about. Joining the AAC would boost our giving dramatically more than people believe.

That's not something you can deliver on.

Tulane got invited over USM because they put the plan together and delivered on it. They didn't wait for conference affiliation to change their program, they changed it themselves.

New Football Stadium, immaculate facilities, a coach that is WINNING and changing the culture at Tulane of all places, nabbed the hottest coach they could for basketball...

They are building their program from the ground up, and are a valuable member. CUSA candidates have the blueprint for inclusion, it's just a matter of having the fortitude to execute it.

I somewhat agree with you, but also realize Tulane had a lot more to play with in the first place, finance wise. I'm not arguing USM fans need to step their game up now and not later, I'm just saying that invite would bolster us far more than most outside our fanbase really imagine.

(06-24-2019 09:55 AM)BlueRaiderBoy Wrote:  

(06-24-2019 09:29 AM)EagNBran Wrote:  Why don't those 30,000 alumni within 30 minutes come to your games?

Excellent Question.
Sadly, most MT/alums are : 1. UT, Vandy, or Bama Fans from birth to grave.
2. Too Busy,or Apathetic
4. Spent all their damn money on Titans/Predators.
5. Our marketing and promotions suck.

I know that feeling. We deal with it as well.

You guys are right about NT. SMU kept us out of the SWC years ago when it looked promising. They will do it again if they need to. Plus, would the AAC really want 2 teams from the same metro area ?

I am also not sure that Houston would be happy about any other team from Texas joining from a recruiting/publicity standpoint. Although, I think Houston has their sights set higher than the AAC.

We would have a better chance of going to the MWC than AAC IMO. Personally, I wish CUSA would just replace Judy and grow what we have. This conference should be better than it is. There is still a lot of potential in CUSA.

(06-24-2019 11:01 AM)ClaudeFunston Wrote:  You guys are right about NT. SMU kept us out of the SWC years ago when it looked promising. They will do it again if they need to. Plus, would the AAC really want 2 teams from the same metro area ?

I am also not sure that Houston would be happy about any other team from Texas joining from a recruiting/publicity standpoint. Although, I think Houston has their sights set higher than the AAC.

We would have a better chance of going to the MWC than AAC IMO. Personally, I wish CUSA would just replace Judy and grow what we have. This conference should be better than it is. There is still a lot of potential in CUSA.

Well said. I hate politics, but they play a major role in these things.

(06-24-2019 11:01 AM)ClaudeFunston Wrote:  You guys are right about NT. SMU kept us out of the SWC years ago when it looked promising. They will do it again if they need to. Plus, would the AAC really want 2 teams from the same metro area ?

I am also not sure that Houston would be happy about any other team from Texas joining from a recruiting/publicity standpoint. Although, I think Houston has their sights set higher than the AAC.

We would have a better chance of going to the MWC than AAC IMO. Personally, I wish CUSA would just replace Judy and grow what we have. This conference should be better than it is. There is still a lot of potential in CUSA.

I hadnt thought about that---but if the AAC took a team from the MW---that might open up some interesting dynamics for Texas teams interested in the MW.

(06-24-2019 11:01 AM)ClaudeFunston Wrote:  You guys are right about NT. SMU kept us out of the SWC years ago when it looked promising. They will do it again if they need to. Plus, would the AAC really want 2 teams from the same metro area ?

I am also not sure that Houston would be happy about any other team from Texas joining from a recruiting/publicity standpoint. Although, I think Houston has their sights set higher than the AAC.

We would have a better chance of going to the MWC than AAC IMO. Personally, I wish CUSA would just replace Judy and grow what we have. This conference should be better than it is. There is still a lot of potential in CUSA.

You were never even considered for the SWC so we didn't keep you out.

As for CUSA, we went for La Tech as we had been conference members with them in the WAC - so yes, SMU chose another school over you.

(06-24-2019 09:59 AM)monarchoptimist Wrote:  I just hope that someone gets picked and the resulting instability cracks this DOA conference in half so each group can reorganize into better, more sustainable conferences.

#winwinwin

THIS!!!

This needs to happen.

(06-23-2019 08:21 PM)Noodles Wrote:  

(06-23-2019 08:05 PM)MT FAN Wrote:  

(06-23-2019 07:52 PM)Noodles Wrote:  If I wanted someone that would win football games, I'd go:
1) Southern Miss
2) Marshall
3) Louisiana Tech
4) North Texas

If I wanted to continue whatever the phuck it is the AAC has been doing, most of which I don't understand, I'd go:
1) FIU (enrollment, recruiting, market,academics)
2) UAB (academics, market)
3) North Texas (market, academics, music department, actual football)
4) Rice (academics, makes as much sense as Tulsa)
5) Charlotte (market, academics, makes as much sense as Tulane)
6) Old Dominion (budget, recruiting)

What football games has Southern Miss won lately?

I will defer this question to Louisiana Tech and Marshall.

And Charlotte and La-Monroe will ask the original question.

(06-24-2019 11:24 AM)Tintin Wrote:  

(06-23-2019 08:21 PM)Noodles Wrote:  

(06-23-2019 08:05 PM)MT FAN Wrote:  

(06-23-2019 07:52 PM)Noodles Wrote:  If I wanted someone that would win football games, I'd go:
1) Southern Miss
2) Marshall
3) Louisiana Tech
4) North Texas

If I wanted to continue whatever the phuck it is the AAC has been doing, most of which I don't understand, I'd go:
1) FIU (enrollment, recruiting, market,academics)
2) UAB (academics, market)
3) North Texas (market, academics, music department, actual football)
4) Rice (academics, makes as much sense as Tulsa)
5) Charlotte (market, academics, makes as much sense as Tulane)
6) Old Dominion (budget, recruiting)

What football games has Southern Miss won lately?

I will defer this question to Louisiana Tech and Marshall.

And Charlotte and La-Monroe will ask the original question.

Hope you enjoyed it, because that's changing.

(06-24-2019 09:43 AM)rileylives Wrote:  

(06-24-2019 09:37 AM)FAU Connoisseur! Wrote:  Grouping teams based on similar reasons as to why they won't or will be selected for the call up. Certainly no the only reason for each team but a big one in my opinion:

Left behind for the same reason they were left behind the last time. What has changed other than revenue is even less than before:

Marshall, USM

Not selected due to USF and UCF do not want to advance FIU or FAU's progress in the state of FL. Although allowing both in would create some amazing rivalries and great attendance for all schools involved, but USF and UCF want to defend their turf. Similar to USF keeping UCF out of BE until it was absolutely necessary to allow them to join (AAC formerly BE).

FAU, FIU

Endowment is meaningless to a conference. AAC would want to see you use the endowment now and be a power in CUSA. I don't see it.

Rice

I think the TX members of AAC are not overly excited about giving them a call up for similar reasons as FAU and FIU in Florida. I actually think that the TX schools will be going west.

UNT, UTEP, UTSA

To small (enrollment), why would they want multiple teams from Louisiana?

La Tech

Not sure what to say about the rest:

UAB - maybe desirable for the call up; just shows we should have immediately expelled them when they dropped football; they could be in play.
ODU - huge budget; micro-stadium; haven't proven they can win at football which lets be honest AAC is a football conference and they want to improve their premier product.
Charlotte - great facilities, the football stadium could be expanded instantly, I love their stadium been their twice. Like ODU haven't proven they can win yet.

MTSU - WKU - apathetic fanbase in the main sport the AAC is interested in. A problem almost all of have in relation to fan interest

I didn't write this to poop on your school, there are probably a 1,000 reasons for each to get the call, but it only takes one reason not to get the call. I don't see the AAC fill their gap with a call to CUSA. They hold at 11 or go BYU (mistake and I don't think they accept to far away) or Army.

But still something to get worked up over during the summer doldrums.

Good post, a lot to chew on without being completely disrespectful. I wish others had that same tone.

I don't know what the American will value this time. It's obvious they valued academics and market size in their initial configuration. But let's say Houston and UCF decide to leave, or are selected elsewhere. Then everything changes. And I think at that point they're going to need to backfill with some actual competitive brands.

That's when teams like Southern Miss and Marshall will hold value.

This is true. The AAC's hand hasn't been forced yet. They can pick and choose between four or five good programs right now that follow their model. If the BIG12 falls apart, and the AAC loses it's best four members, everything changes. They'll be looking to fill holes quickly with recognizable brands like Louisiana Tech, Southern Mississippi, Marshall etc.

(06-24-2019 11:21 AM)rook360 Wrote:  

(06-24-2019 09:59 AM)monarchoptimist Wrote:  I just hope that someone gets picked and the resulting instability cracks this DOA conference in half so each group can reorganize into better, more sustainable conferences.

#winwinwin

THIS!!!

This needs to happen.

+1

The AAC is very concerned with public perception and trying to convince the media and themselves that they should be in the P5. Adding another CUSA team would be difficult for them unless they consider the school an "established" program. I guess a case could be made for them to take one of the CUSA schools that were follow members before they left CUSA to save face if they don't get their first choice.