(06-23-2019 06:47 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  

(06-23-2019 06:42 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  

(06-23-2019 05:40 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  

(06-23-2019 05:18 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  

(06-23-2019 05:10 PM)thespywhozaggedme Wrote:  Eastern Division:
Temple
New member
Cincy
ECU
Navy
UCF
USF

Western Division:
Boise
BYU
Houston
SMU
Tulsa
Memphis
Tulane

Boom! ESPN games from noon until midnight. This is as close to P5 as possible. Another chance for Aresco to be proactive and not reactive. Gitter Done

I really like your proposal, but Boise has to understand there are no sweetheart deals with the AAC. However, my guess is the roster shown would result in more money for Boise than they presently possess.

I don’t understand the boise infatuation they literally bring nothing to the table. Boise’s hay-day is past they have no market, a small fanbase, dedicated, but small, poor academics, little money, and a terrible stadium.


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Boise is a name brand that still contends for the “Access Bowl”. Because Alabama is not coming to the AAC, the AAC must pick the best available option if filling UConn’s spot is required and Boise is among the best.

Name brand means nothing. We get the same amount of money no matter who we add. Southern miss has a very very good history too but no one is rushing to add them because they have no resources.

The last thing we would do is add a school because of a brand that contributes nothing in resources or financials. Not to mention why would we want to elevate competition for a potential P5 spot in 2024? Boise hasn’t been the “best” since 2014.

Lastly you have to factor in the logistics of adding boise with no one close by. Who do we move to the east? Would any of the west teams even want to move to the east? No way boise accepts a football only invite so you’re going to have add them all sports too. Then would any of the west teams want the added expense of having all their sports travel to boise?




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Boise >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Liberty.

Sorry, but Liberty to the AAC is not happening. Absolutely nothing in common with any AAC school - Ultra-religious (to the point of being radical), basically a for-profit with it's on-line diploma mill, no history, never did anything in FCS, will be a .500 team for life, rural campus.

(06-23-2019 06:58 PM)dbackjon Wrote:  

(06-23-2019 06:47 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  

(06-23-2019 06:42 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  

(06-23-2019 05:40 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  

(06-23-2019 05:18 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  I really like your proposal, but Boise has to understand there are no sweetheart deals with the AAC. However, my guess is the roster shown would result in more money for Boise than they presently possess.

I don’t understand the boise infatuation they literally bring nothing to the table. Boise’s hay-day is past they have no market, a small fanbase, dedicated, but small, poor academics, little money, and a terrible stadium.


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Boise is a name brand that still contends for the “Access Bowl”. Because Alabama is not coming to the AAC, the AAC must pick the best available option if filling UConn’s spot is required and Boise is among the best.

Name brand means nothing. We get the same amount of money no matter who we add. Southern miss has a very very good history too but no one is rushing to add them because they have no resources.

The last thing we would do is add a school because of a brand that contributes nothing in resources or financials. Not to mention why would we want to elevate competition for a potential P5 spot in 2024? Boise hasn’t been the “best” since 2014.

Lastly you have to factor in the logistics of adding boise with no one close by. Who do we move to the east? Would any of the west teams even want to move to the east? No way boise accepts a football only invite so you’re going to have add them all sports too. Then would any of the west teams want the added expense of having all their sports travel to boise?




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Boise >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Liberty.

Sorry, but Liberty to the AAC is not happening. Absolutely nothing in common with any AAC school - Ultra-religious (to the point of being radical), basically a for-profit with it's on-line diploma mill, no history, never did anything in FCS, will be a .500 team for life, rural campus.

Liberty may not have any chance of happening, but boise literally has nothing other than football success that makes them better than liberty. When it comes to actually resources, location, and possible following liberty blows boise out of the water.

Not to mention you cant be pro BYU and then be anti liberty. The same religious issues you have with liberty are present with BYU.


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(06-23-2019 06:47 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  

(06-23-2019 06:42 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  

(06-23-2019 05:40 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  

(06-23-2019 05:18 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  

(06-23-2019 05:10 PM)thespywhozaggedme Wrote:  Eastern Division:
Temple
New member
Cincy
ECU
Navy
UCF
USF

Western Division:
Boise
BYU
Houston
SMU
Tulsa
Memphis
Tulane

Boom! ESPN games from noon until midnight. This is as close to P5 as possible. Another chance for Aresco to be proactive and not reactive. Gitter Done

I really like your proposal, but Boise has to understand there are no sweetheart deals with the AAC. However, my guess is the roster shown would result in more money for Boise than they presently possess.

I don’t understand the boise infatuation they literally bring nothing to the table. Boise’s hay-day is past they have no market, a small fanbase, dedicated, but small, poor academics, little money, and a terrible stadium.


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Boise is a name brand that still contends for the “Access Bowl”. Because Alabama is not coming to the AAC, the AAC must pick the best available option if filling UConn’s spot is required and Boise is among the best.

Name brand means nothing. We get the same amount of money no matter who we add. Southern miss has a very very good history too but no one is rushing to add them because they have no resources.

The last thing we would do is add a school because of a brand that contributes nothing in resources or financials. Not to mention why would we want to elevate competition for a potential P5 spot in 2024?

Lastly you have to factor in the logistics of adding boise with no one close by. Who do we move to the east? Would any of the west teams even want to move to the east? No way boise accepts a football only invite so you’re going to have add them all sports too. Then would any of the west teams want the added expense of having all their sports travel to boise?




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Name brand is everything. I don’t think Boise is the wisest add (I don’t think they’d take it anyway), but they have the recognition. How many people even know liberty is FBS compared to Boise. How many people know where the school is compared to Boise. Accomplishments compared to Boise. The length of the climb to legitimacy compared to Boise.

Your justifications for Liberty are that it has resources. Besides money, what is it? No academic reputation. Recruiting right in UVA and VT’s barren backyard. WAY less students on campus than you thought. Not a big fanbase. Just money that they can spend on a bridge to nowhere.

(06-23-2019 07:01 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  

(06-23-2019 06:47 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  

(06-23-2019 06:42 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  

(06-23-2019 05:40 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  

(06-23-2019 05:18 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  I really like your proposal, but Boise has to understand there are no sweetheart deals with the AAC. However, my guess is the roster shown would result in more money for Boise than they presently possess.

I don’t understand the boise infatuation they literally bring nothing to the table. Boise’s hay-day is past they have no market, a small fanbase, dedicated, but small, poor academics, little money, and a terrible stadium.


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Boise is a name brand that still contends for the “Access Bowl”. Because Alabama is not coming to the AAC, the AAC must pick the best available option if filling UConn’s spot is required and Boise is among the best.

Name brand means nothing. We get the same amount of money no matter who we add. Southern miss has a very very good history too but no one is rushing to add them because they have no resources.

The last thing we would do is add a school because of a brand that contributes nothing in resources or financials. Not to mention why would we want to elevate competition for a potential P5 spot in 2024?

Lastly you have to factor in the logistics of adding boise with no one close by. Who do we move to the east? Would any of the west teams even want to move to the east? No way boise accepts a football only invite so you’re going to have add them all sports too. Then would any of the west teams want the added expense of having all their sports travel to boise?




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Name brand is everything. I don’t think Boise is the wisest add (I don’t think they’d take it anyway), but they have the recognition. How many people even know liberty is FBS compared to Boise. How many people know where the school is compared to Boise. Accomplishments compared to Boise. The length of the climb to legitimacy compared to Boise.

Your justifications for Liberty are that it has resources. Besides money, what is it? No academic reputation. Recruiting right in UVA and VT’s barren backyard. WAY less students on campus than you thought. Not a big fanbase. Just money that they can spend on a bridge to nowhere.

Money is everything though college sports is a business at the end of the day and we aren’t getting paid based on big brands. No matter who we add the contract isn’t changing. Then you factor in the conference is going to blow up in 2024 possibly and boise becomes a huge negative as you would be promoting a possible competitor for a P5 spot.

Liberty presents the solution of lots of money but not enough history to worry about in 2024.


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(06-23-2019 07:01 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  

(06-23-2019 06:58 PM)dbackjon Wrote:  

(06-23-2019 06:47 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  

(06-23-2019 06:42 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  

(06-23-2019 05:40 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  I don’t understand the boise infatuation they literally bring nothing to the table. Boise’s hay-day is past they have no market, a small fanbase, dedicated, but small, poor academics, little money, and a terrible stadium.


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Boise is a name brand that still contends for the “Access Bowl”. Because Alabama is not coming to the AAC, the AAC must pick the best available option if filling UConn’s spot is required and Boise is among the best.

Name brand means nothing. We get the same amount of money no matter who we add. Southern miss has a very very good history too but no one is rushing to add them because they have no resources.

The last thing we would do is add a school because of a brand that contributes nothing in resources or financials. Not to mention why would we want to elevate competition for a potential P5 spot in 2024? Boise hasn’t been the “best” since 2014.

Lastly you have to factor in the logistics of adding boise with no one close by. Who do we move to the east? Would any of the west teams even want to move to the east? No way boise accepts a football only invite so you’re going to have add them all sports too. Then would any of the west teams want the added expense of having all their sports travel to boise?




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Boise >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Liberty.

Sorry, but Liberty to the AAC is not happening. Absolutely nothing in common with any AAC school - Ultra-religious (to the point of being radical), basically a for-profit with it's on-line diploma mill, no history, never did anything in FCS, will be a .500 team for life, rural campus.

Liberty may not have any chance of happening, but boise literally has nothing other than football success that makes them better than liberty. When it comes to actually resources, location, and possible following liberty blows boise out of the water.

Not to mention you cant be pro BYU and then be anti liberty. The same religious issues you have with liberty are present with BYU.


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I am not pro-BYU either. Both would be bad fits.

AAC should stay at 11. If forced to go to 12, Liberty is well down on the list of candidates.

Boise has name recognition, but the distance makes it unworkable. Boise would have to join the Big Sky for Olympic Sports, and that is a downgrade for basketball. Boise has had ranked basketball teams this decade, more than Liberty can claim.

(06-22-2019 07:51 PM)msm96wolf Wrote:  Air Force football only. Allows Navy and Air Force to free up a OOC game. Air Force Olympics to WCC with BYU (or WAC or Horizon). Air Force likely comes out with a better money deal than it had with MWC.

This is one reason why I think adding Air Force is more likely than adding Army. Another is turning Army-Navy into a conference game is quite difficult. Army seems like a non-starter to me, unless the American agrees that Army-Navy will be a non-conference game....

(06-23-2019 07:15 PM)dbackjon Wrote:  

(06-23-2019 07:01 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  

(06-23-2019 06:58 PM)dbackjon Wrote:  

(06-23-2019 06:47 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  

(06-23-2019 06:42 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  Boise is a name brand that still contends for the “Access Bowl”. Because Alabama is not coming to the AAC, the AAC must pick the best available option if filling UConn’s spot is required and Boise is among the best.

Name brand means nothing. We get the same amount of money no matter who we add. Southern miss has a very very good history too but no one is rushing to add them because they have no resources.

The last thing we would do is add a school because of a brand that contributes nothing in resources or financials. Not to mention why would we want to elevate competition for a potential P5 spot in 2024? Boise hasn’t been the “best” since 2014.

Lastly you have to factor in the logistics of adding boise with no one close by. Who do we move to the east? Would any of the west teams even want to move to the east? No way boise accepts a football only invite so you’re going to have add them all sports too. Then would any of the west teams want the added expense of having all their sports travel to boise?




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Boise >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Liberty.

Sorry, but Liberty to the AAC is not happening. Absolutely nothing in common with any AAC school - Ultra-religious (to the point of being radical), basically a for-profit with it's on-line diploma mill, no history, never did anything in FCS, will be a .500 team for life, rural campus.

Liberty may not have any chance of happening, but boise literally has nothing other than football success that makes them better than liberty. When it comes to actually resources, location, and possible following liberty blows boise out of the water.

Not to mention you cant be pro BYU and then be anti liberty. The same religious issues you have with liberty are present with BYU.


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I am not pro-BYU either. Both would be bad fits.

AAC should stay at 11. If forced to go to 12, Liberty is well down on the list of candidates.

Boise has name recognition, but the distance makes it unworkable. Boise would have to join the Big Sky for Olympic Sports, and that is a downgrade for basketball. Boise has had ranked basketball teams this decade, more than Liberty can claim.

Everything you just listed is why boise wont nor should it happen. We only hurt ourselves by adding a strong brand in football at this point. Because the contract isn’t changing and more than likely that school will become a huge competitor for a P5 spot in 2024.

If we were looking to add a big brand in football before we signed the contract i would say boise would have been a top choice.


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(06-23-2019 07:18 PM)CougarRed Wrote:  

(06-22-2019 07:51 PM)msm96wolf Wrote:  Air Force football only. Allows Navy and Air Force to free up a OOC game. Air Force Olympics to WCC with BYU (or WAC or Horizon). Air Force likely comes out with a better money deal than it had with MWC.

This is one reason why I think adding Air Force is more likely than adding Army. Another is turning Army-Navy into a conference game is quite difficult. Army seems like a non-starter to me, unless the American agrees that Army-Navy will be a non-conference game....

Remember air-force turned down B12 invite because the competition was too strong. The competition in the aac is stronger than the mountain west and clearly money isn’t a big factor to them. So what do you do to entice air-force, then you have the problem of who do you move to the east division.


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ESPN would clearly consider modifying the contract if they agree that a prospective addition added value. The contract is not set in stone if both parties are in consent to a modification. Certainly BYU & BSU would add value.

(06-23-2019 07:26 PM)B easy Wrote:  ESPN would clearly consider modifying the contract if they agree that a prospective addition added value. The contract is not set in stone if both parties are in consent to a modification. Certainly BYU & BSU would add value.

For the 100th BYU is not going to ever happen. Why would espn have any incentive to modify the contract? Not to mention it was already negotiated for us to lose one school which means espn clearly knew we would add some one if we lost uconn.

Honestly its not that simple, we cant just add a school and then hope espn blows up the contract and suddenly gives us more money.

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Let UConn stay as a FB only for a few years and see what happens with the B-12 in 2025. Don't rush into new members right away. Sort through the replacements and give them time to transition into the AAC while giving proper notice to the potential conferences they may be leaving. Since the AAC offices are moving south to Texas NE schools like UMASS may definitely be out of the mix of replacement schools. Southern and SW schools might be in play art this time. Should the B-12 stay together and take at least one AAC school if not 2 to get back to 12 schools in their conference then the AAC is back to being CUSA again with Navy and Temple in the fold. As of now the schools the AAC really want are not available - Army and BYU choose to remain independent. So stick with UConn as a FB only for a few years to see how the next realignment period shakes out.

(06-23-2019 07:29 PM)panite Wrote:  Let UConn stay as a FB only for a few years and see what happens with the B-12 in 2025. Don't rush into new members right away. Sort through the replacements and give them time to transition into the AAC while giving proper notice to the potential conferences they may be leaving. Since the AAC offices are moving south to Texas NE schools like UMASS may definitely be out of the mix of replacement schools. Southern and SW schools might be in play art this time. Should the B-12 stay together and take at least one AAC school if not 2 to get back to 12 schools in their conference then the AAC is back to being CUSA again with Navy and Temple in the fold. As of now the schools the AAC really want are not available - Army and BYU choose to remain independent. So stick with UConn as a FB only for a few years to see how the next realignment period shakes out.

This is probably what happens.


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UConn will not be allowed to keep their football program in the American. No way. No how.

(06-23-2019 07:27 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  

(06-23-2019 07:26 PM)B easy Wrote:  ESPN would clearly consider modifying the contract if they agree that a prospective addition added value. The contract is not set in stone if both parties are in consent to a modification. Certainly BYU & BSU would add value.

For the 100th BYU is not going to ever happen. Why would espn have any incentive to modify the contract? Not to mention it was already negotiated for us to lose one school which means espn clearly knew we would add some one if we lost uconn.

Honestly its not that simple, we cant just add a school and then hope espn blows up the contract and suddenly gives us more money.

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I'm not saying BYU is going to happen & I'm not advocating adding anyone right now but it would be irresponsible to not negotiate with our tv partner ahead of time as well as prospective lucrative additions. Everyone in this equation brings something to the table and with a little creativity we could collectively determine avenues for mutual symbiotic benefits via conference expansion. Not many here thought UCONN would leave under these circumstances but it's happening.

Not saying it will happen but we must leave no stone unturned as contracts were made to be broken, contingent upon it making fiscal sense of course. ESPN could determine that it's in their best interest to consolidate power by strengthening assets they've already acquired. BYU needs access to the major bowls and could actually be worth more with us than without us in the eyes of ESPN because it bolsters the AAC's likelihood of continuing to consistently dominate that access bowl as we are a major investment for them at this point.

I say we create an A and B team. Take out UConn and add like 7 schools. Two round robin schedules but all the same conference. Check this, we could even have an “evaluation period” where if a school is like 1-5 at the start of the season BOOM B TEAM you ain’t bringing down our SOS we will bring up USM to play the rest of your games.

Go heavy into regional bids, add Texas state, UNT, UTSA, Marshal for ECU, FAU for UCF and USF, Southern Miss and Troy.

Just an idea since I think ESPN really wants a G5 playoff anyway we might as well consolidate the decent G5’s and that way we can always ride the teams that are hot to keep us competitive with the PAC and ACC.

Basically just field one conference but have enough teams to supplement the teams who won’t sustain success but who are capable of having a breakout year. Even teams in the B team will be playing for being bumped up to the A team and a chance at the NY6 so it would be fun.

(06-23-2019 07:53 PM)B easy Wrote:  

(06-23-2019 07:27 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  

(06-23-2019 07:26 PM)B easy Wrote:  ESPN would clearly consider modifying the contract if they agree that a prospective addition added value. The contract is not set in stone if both parties are in consent to a modification. Certainly BYU & BSU would add value.

For the 100th BYU is not going to ever happen. Why would espn have any incentive to modify the contract? Not to mention it was already negotiated for us to lose one school which means espn clearly knew we would add some one if we lost uconn.

Honestly its not that simple, we cant just add a school and then hope espn blows up the contract and suddenly gives us more money.

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I'm not saying BYU is going to happen & I'm not advocating adding anyone right now but it would be irresponsible to not negotiate with our tv partner ahead of time as well as prospective lucrative additions. Everyone in this equation brings something to the table and with a little creativity we could collectively determine avenues for mutual symbiotic benefits via conference expansion. Not many here thought UCONN would leave under these circumstances but it's happening.

Not saying it will happen but we must leave no stone unturned as contracts were made to be broken, contingent upon it making fiscal sense of course. ESPN could determine that it's in their best interest to consolidate power by strengthening assets they've already acquired. BYU needs access to the major bowls and could actually be worth more with us than without us in the eyes of ESPN because it bolsters the AAC's likelihood of continuing to consistently dominate that access bowl as we are a major investment for them at this point.

You’re underestimating BYU’s arrogance they dont care about access bowls or even money. They would literally take less money if it meant not joining the aac.

I imagine there will be talk between the conference and espn, but ultimately neither side has the leverage to force the other into an agreement.

Alos while we didn’t think uconn would leave clearly the conference knew it was very likely. Why else would aresco have negotiated it into the contract?

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(06-23-2019 07:54 PM)vcoog Wrote:  I say we create an A and B team. Take out UConn and add like 7 schools. Two round robin schedules but all the same conference. Check this, we could even have an “evaluation period” where if a school is like 1-5 at the start of the season BOOM B TEAM you ain’t bringing down our SOS we will bring up USM to play the rest of your games.

Go heavy into regional bids, add Texas state, UNT, UTSA, Marshal for ECU, FAU for UCF and USF, Southern Miss and Troy.

Just an idea since I think ESPN really wants a G5 playoff anyway we might as well consolidate the decent G5’s and that way we can always ride the teams that are hot to keep us competitive with the PAC and ACC.

Basically just field one conference but have enough teams to supplement the teams who won’t sustain success but who are capable of having a breakout year. Even teams in the B team will be playing for being bumped up to the A team and a chance at the NY6 so it would be fun.

So... European soccer?


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(06-23-2019 07:31 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  

(06-23-2019 07:29 PM)panite Wrote:  Let UConn stay as a FB only for a few years and see what happens with the B-12 in 2025. Don't rush into new members right away. Sort through the replacements and give them time to transition into the AAC while giving proper notice to the potential conferences they may be leaving. Since the AAC offices are moving south to Texas NE schools like UMASS may definitely be out of the mix of replacement schools. Southern and SW schools might be in play art this time. Should the B-12 stay together and take at least one AAC school if not 2 to get back to 12 schools in their conference then the AAC is back to being CUSA again with Navy and Temple in the fold. As of now the schools the AAC really want are not available - Army and BYU choose to remain independent. So stick with UConn as a FB only for a few years to see how the next realignment period shakes out.

This is probably what happens.


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That's just bad business. We should not negotiate with extortionists. In the business world it's called tit for tat. They hit us we must hit them back. It would be irresponsible and bad business to reward them for acting in bad faith and to be honest we're worth more without them. We get $7.6 million each per year now if we stand pat (which is actually a valuable negotiating chip for the AAC moving forward) so that is why we will continue to negotiate with ESPN & potential candidates to see if there is common ground before pulling the trigger.

(06-23-2019 07:56 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  

(06-23-2019 07:53 PM)B easy Wrote:  

(06-23-2019 07:27 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  

(06-23-2019 07:26 PM)B easy Wrote:  ESPN would clearly consider modifying the contract if they agree that a prospective addition added value. The contract is not set in stone if both parties are in consent to a modification. Certainly BYU & BSU would add value.

For the 100th BYU is not going to ever happen. Why would espn have any incentive to modify the contract? Not to mention it was already negotiated for us to lose one school which means espn clearly knew we would add some one if we lost uconn.

Honestly its not that simple, we cant just add a school and then hope espn blows up the contract and suddenly gives us more money.

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I'm not saying BYU is going to happen & I'm not advocating adding anyone right now but it would be irresponsible to not negotiate with our tv partner ahead of time as well as prospective lucrative additions. Everyone in this equation brings something to the table and with a little creativity we could collectively determine avenues for mutual symbiotic benefits via conference expansion. Not many here thought UCONN would leave under these circumstances but it's happening.

Not saying it will happen but we must leave no stone unturned as contracts were made to be broken, contingent upon it making fiscal sense of course. ESPN could determine that it's in their best interest to consolidate power by strengthening assets they've already acquired. BYU needs access to the major bowls and could actually be worth more with us than without us in the eyes of ESPN because it bolsters the AAC's likelihood of continuing to consistently dominate that access bowl as we are a major investment for them at this point.

You’re underestimating BYU’s arrogance they dont care about access bowls or even money. They would literally take less money if it meant not joining the aac.

I imagine there will be talk between the conference and espn, but ultimately neither side has the leverage to force the other into an agreement.

Alos while we didn’t think uconn would leave clearly the conference knew it was very likely. Why else would aresco have negotiated it into the contract?

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Don't think that by now some reality is sinking in at BYU? Plus, the success of the AAC pretty much shows that you can 'win' from here... 3 NY6 bowl wins (thanks UCF and Houston) and a quasi NC. Would think BYU would have LOVED to have that much attention. We are not the SBC/MAC/MWC/cUSA.

(06-23-2019 08:01 PM)Bull Wrote:  

(06-23-2019 07:56 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  

(06-23-2019 07:53 PM)B easy Wrote:  

(06-23-2019 07:27 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  

(06-23-2019 07:26 PM)B easy Wrote:  ESPN would clearly consider modifying the contract if they agree that a prospective addition added value. The contract is not set in stone if both parties are in consent to a modification. Certainly BYU & BSU would add value.

For the 100th BYU is not going to ever happen. Why would espn have any incentive to modify the contract? Not to mention it was already negotiated for us to lose one school which means espn clearly knew we would add some one if we lost uconn.

Honestly its not that simple, we cant just add a school and then hope espn blows up the contract and suddenly gives us more money.

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I'm not saying BYU is going to happen & I'm not advocating adding anyone right now but it would be irresponsible to not negotiate with our tv partner ahead of time as well as prospective lucrative additions. Everyone in this equation brings something to the table and with a little creativity we could collectively determine avenues for mutual symbiotic benefits via conference expansion. Not many here thought UCONN would leave under these circumstances but it's happening.

Not saying it will happen but we must leave no stone unturned as contracts were made to be broken, contingent upon it making fiscal sense of course. ESPN could determine that it's in their best interest to consolidate power by strengthening assets they've already acquired. BYU needs access to the major bowls and could actually be worth more with us than without us in the eyes of ESPN because it bolsters the AAC's likelihood of continuing to consistently dominate that access bowl as we are a major investment for them at this point.

You’re underestimating BYU’s arrogance they dont care about access bowls or even money. They would literally take less money if it meant not joining the aac.

I imagine there will be talk between the conference and espn, but ultimately neither side has the leverage to force the other into an agreement.

Alos while we didn’t think uconn would leave clearly the conference knew it was very likely. Why else would aresco have negotiated it into the contract?

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Don't think that by now some reality is sinking in at BYU? Plus, the success of the AAC pretty much shows that you can 'win' from here... 3 NY6 bowl wins (thanks UCF and Houston) and a quasi NC. Would think BYU would have LOVED to have that much attention. We are not the SBC/MAC/MWC/cUSA.

No BYU doesn’t care... they are the UT of the G5 and would literally sacrifice everything before joining a g5 conference and admitting that Utah is a better school.


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