(10-24-2019 06:39 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  Off the top of my head, with regards to G5 programs in markets of decent size, maybe only Boise beats Memphis with regards to owning their own market, but especially in SEC country the P5 reach is huge.

Memphis even has the distinct advantage over many G5 programs in their great distance from Knoxville, but Oxford being 60 miles away mitigates a fair amount of that and unless I'm mistaken, Memphis is the largest city within something like 300 miles of Oxford.

Re: Ole Miss, it’s been years (at least 5) since I looked at, but Jackson was number one in living alumni followed by Memphis with Memphis number one and Jackson number two in corporate giving. So yeah, it’s a vital area for Rebel Black Bears.

(10-22-2019 12:20 AM)deb025 Wrote:  

(10-21-2019 07:07 PM)grapes Wrote:  

(10-16-2019 03:45 PM)deb025 Wrote:  Memphis is a nasty city and a terrible school. How many times has that school been busted for cheating? The only time I've ever seen a man physically assault a woman in public was in Memphis. The whole city is white trash and ghetto thugs.

Why are you being so rude?

Memphis might not be Miami or LA but its a cute southern city with charm.
I travel for living visiting at least 6 different cities a month and have been almost everywhere. I'll say this, the growth of Memphis is horrible yes. But its not some trash disgusting city that isn't worth anything.

The people in the south in general are pretty sweet, southern hospitality is real (just not in politics). To say the whole city is "white trash and ghetto thugs" shows your character. I can only imagine the type of person you are lol.

Not trying to be rude but it's the truth. What is this people from the south crap? I'm from the south dummy. Lived in Memphis for six months and it was the worse six months of my life. Moved there right after Katrina and the people there treated me terrible. Worked in the warehouses and for FedEx and the locals treated me horrible. Most racist people I've ever encountered in my life. I'm white and I've always got along with black people but not in Memphis. No lie, my first night in Memphis I had to stop some white trash crackhead from beating his wife or girlfriend in the Walmart parking lot. I needed a shower curtain and stopped at Walmart. This dude was straight beating the shite out of her. I've never seen nothing like that in my life. Anyways, I gathered myself and got my shower curtain from Walmart and then stopped at Burger King to grab me some food before I went back to my apartment. No problem there but guess what when I got back to my apartment? I turned on the local news and some guy had just shot up the Burger King I had just stopped at a few minutes before. The news said it was a domestic dispute. This guy went into the BK and shot the lady working the cash register. The same lady that just checked me out a few minutes before. Keep in mind this was my first night in Memphis. Anyways I toughed it out for six months before I got a job back home in Louisiana. Went back up to Memphis when Tech played Ole Miss in 2011 and visited Beal St. during the day. Me and the people with me were hassled by druggies the whole time walking down Beal St. The most popular street in Memphis and the cops can't keep trash from hassling visitors. Like you I've also traveled and have lived in various cities in the U.S. and by far the most disgusting city I've ever lived or visited has been Memphis. Also, the BBQ in Memphis is overrated. Texas BBQ is much better. I've never had KC BBQ but I bet it's better also.

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(10-22-2019 09:28 AM)ECUGrad07 Wrote:  Well... with the 2 year waiver, it looks like we may be needing to someone in football after all, if Wichita State isn't going to add football.

I have absolutely no idea who it would be.


Boise State: won't come.
BYU: won't come.
Air Force:... maybe? Navy may be a draw for them.
Army:... maybe? Army/Navy wouldn't be a conference game, so I don't know. Or would it?
Southern Miss: Nostalgia hits hard here for this Pirate. USM is typically solid in the sports we care about.
Marshall: Makes sense for the East Division AAC teams, travel-wise. Good fanbase.
ODU: Great facilities. I hear y'all have $$$.
App State: Get rid of that dang track around the football field. Other AAC schools out west and in the NE wouldn't agree to this pick.
GA State: The UCF of Georgia, in my opinion. And not the good things about UCF, either.
UAB: Darkhorse pick. I like Birmingham, despite the stigma. Good People, Avondale, etc. Fun place, good school.

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(10-22-2019 12:59 PM)rileylives Wrote:  If I had to guess which teams the AAC look at from CUSA...probably this.

I rank based on all the parameters they look at and market location. I think they will look for an Eastern based team first.

1. UAB
2. ODU

3. Charlotte

4. Southern Miss
5. Marshall

6. MTSU
7. FIU

8. North Texas
9. Rice
10. UTSA

11. FAU
12. WKU
13. La Tech
14. UTEP

"I have ten times your strength Kirk!!!"

Khan

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(10-22-2019 03:52 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(10-22-2019 08:14 AM)odu09 Wrote:  

(10-21-2019 11:26 PM)panama Wrote:  

(10-21-2019 10:12 PM)Kit-Cat Wrote:  A few patterns I have noticed with AAC expansion.

1) Every school they've added is at a minimum the #1 FBS school in their metro areas. That means GaSt is at a disadvantage next to Georgia Tech and FIU next to U.Miami.

2) Every school they've added has at least played in FBS for over 15 years, most far longer. Everyone has mad a NY6 bowl outside of USF.

3) The last 3 schools admitted got in on one really big asset. Tulane on the NO market. ECU on big time FB market. Tulsa had a track record of success.

This leaves UAB, USM or Marshall in CUSA as schools that could work as part of the P6 image being around a while plus 40k stadiums.

You're hilarious in thinking any G5 is #1 in any major city. If they were they wouldn't be a g5.

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To be fair, he said #1 in their metro area. Not major city. That is one of the few advantages ODU has. There are no other sports in our area unless you want to count farm league hockey and baseball.

I'm not sure how that matters. Georgia Tech might be the most popular Atlanta based FBS program, but they aren't close to the most popular FBS program among Atlanta residents, they may not be in the top 5.

USF doesn't have the biggest fanbase in Tampa, Memphis doesn't have the biggest fanbase in Memphis, Tulane doesn't have the biggest fanbase in NOLA, etc etc.

In *every* AAC market of any remotely notable size, there is *at least* one P5 program with a larger fanbase.

^^^^^^ Reasonable Voice ^^^^^

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(10-22-2019 09:54 PM)72Tiger Wrote:  

(10-22-2019 03:52 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(10-22-2019 08:14 AM)odu09 Wrote:  

(10-21-2019 11:26 PM)panama Wrote:  

(10-21-2019 10:12 PM)Kit-Cat Wrote:  A few patterns I have noticed with AAC expansion.

1) Every school they've added is at a minimum the #1 FBS school in their metro areas. That means GaSt is at a disadvantage next to Georgia Tech and FIU next to U.Miami.

2) Every school they've added has at least played in FBS for over 15 years, most far longer. Everyone has mad a NY6 bowl outside of USF.

3) The last 3 schools admitted got in on one really big asset. Tulane on the NO market. ECU on big time FB market. Tulsa had a track record of success.

This leaves UAB, USM or Marshall in CUSA as schools that could work as part of the P6 image being around a while plus 40k stadiums.

You're hilarious in thinking any G5 is #1 in any major city. If they were they wouldn't be a g5.

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To be fair, he said #1 in their metro area. Not major city. That is one of the few advantages ODU has. There are no other sports in our area unless you want to count farm league hockey and baseball.

I'm not sure how that matters. Georgia Tech might be the most popular Atlanta based FBS program, but they aren't close to the most popular FBS program among Atlanta residents, they may not be in the top 5.

USF doesn't have the biggest fanbase in Tampa, Memphis doesn't have the biggest fanbase in Memphis, Tulane doesn't have the biggest fanbase in NOLA, etc etc.

In *every* AAC market of any remotely notable size, there is *at least* one P5 program with a larger fanbase.

Memphis has the largest fanbase in Memphis.

Lol

No

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(10-23-2019 06:24 AM)wylioats Wrote:  

(10-22-2019 03:52 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(10-22-2019 08:14 AM)odu09 Wrote:  

(10-21-2019 11:26 PM)panama Wrote:  

(10-21-2019 10:12 PM)Kit-Cat Wrote:  A few patterns I have noticed with AAC expansion.

1) Every school they've added is at a minimum the #1 FBS school in their metro areas. That means GaSt is at a disadvantage next to Georgia Tech and FIU next to U.Miami.

2) Every school they've added has at least played in FBS for over 15 years, most far longer. Everyone has mad a NY6 bowl outside of USF.

3) The last 3 schools admitted got in on one really big asset. Tulane on the NO market. ECU on big time FB market. Tulsa had a track record of success.

This leaves UAB, USM or Marshall in CUSA as schools that could work as part of the P6 image being around a while plus 40k stadiums.

You're hilarious in thinking any G5 is #1 in any major city. If they were they wouldn't be a g5.

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To be fair, he said #1 in their metro area. Not major city. That is one of the few advantages ODU has. There are no other sports in our area unless you want to count farm league hockey and baseball.

I'm not sure how that matters. Georgia Tech might be the most popular Atlanta based FBS program, but they aren't close to the most popular FBS program among Atlanta residents, they may not be in the top 5.

USF doesn't have the biggest fanbase in Tampa, Memphis doesn'[/b[b]]t have the biggest fanbase in Memphis, Tulane doesn't have the biggest fanbase in NOLA, etc etc.

In *every* AAC market of any remotely notable size, there is *at least* one P5 program with a larger fanbase.

Wrong answer, Memphis indeed does have the largest fan base in the city, not even close.

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(10-24-2019 01:46 PM)gulfcoastgal Wrote:  

(10-24-2019 11:38 AM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  I'm shocked, SHOCKED, that it was Memphis fans living in delusion over the size of their local fanbase.

Memphis is one of the AAC cities where it might be close, but there are tons of Tennessee and Ole Miss fans in Memphis.

Yes, fans will be biased, but looking at nationwide surveys, local ratings and things like media coverage give a more objective view. There may be other criteria to use, but those seem pretty basic and usually readily agreed upon. The NY Times survey from years ago has been posted before. It put the whole Metro and solidly in favor of the Tigers with nice penetration into West TN. Overnight ratings that ESPN released over the last several years have shown high % viewership for Tiger games within the city. There's also a reason so many AAC stories come out of Memphis. It's not likely the two full time sports radio stations and two newspapers regularly put out more stories on the Tigers vs. other schools out of the kindnesss of their hearts. It's all about dollars and cents and right now Tiger coverage over other college teams makes more sense and cents...supply and demand. No doubt the Memphis metro contains multiple fanbases, but there's no "objective" data pointing to those other schools owning the market over the Tigers.

BBall has historically held serve, and now Fball is slowly expanding coverage as well with more radio stations in AR, MS and TN picking up games vs. in years past. They can do better no doubt and are no where near P5 size national fanbases, but do well when compared to those on the outside looking in. IIRC, the Tiger program leads the way of all G5s in tix sales and donations in the USAToday database... >$21M. Going forward, I don't know how much the fanbase can realistically support. With bball preseason T25 and fball in, out and hovering around T25, it'll be interesting to see if there's enough dollars to go around for everyone.

Every major Metro in the South whether we like it or not is SEC SEC SEC...

...and you're surrounded by three. Memphis is impressive but the average Walmart fan that barely pays attention which is most of college football is rooting for an SEC school.

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(10-24-2019 02:42 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(10-24-2019 11:38 AM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  I'm shocked, SHOCKED, that it was Memphis fans living in delusion over the size of their local fanbase.

Memphis is one of the AAC cities where it might be close, but there are tons of Tennessee and Ole Miss fans in Memphis.

we're also full of the 'I like [insert winning SEC team] in football and Memphis in basketball!' types.

This

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(10-24-2019 08:53 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  

(10-24-2019 08:08 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(10-24-2019 07:34 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  If only we could survive with a decent Indy schedule...

Eat it AAC fanboys!

hey, it only cost UConn 17 million dollars to go from losing to Cincy, Temple, Navy, and ECU...to losing to Boston College, Syracuse, Virginia, and Army. This is truly a huge day for UConn!

Only in AAC fanboy world is trading the AAC for 5 P5 opponents a downgrade. AAC fanboys soooooooooooooooooo obsessed with me. To most AAC fans, trolling UCONN is more important than playing meaningful games. UCF with their weak *** SOS is a prime example.

just make sure to sign the check :-)

speaking of UCF, I saw where the signed a 'buy' game with UConn...that sure won't help their OOC schedule any.

I absolutely love how non-Memphians are absolute experts on Memphis’ fan demographics.

Panama, if you want to give me the run down on Atlanta‘s overwhelming UGA population vs GT/GSU, I’ll listen. MTP, if you want to tell me LA Tech is second fiddle in Ruston to LSU, I’ll listen. But don’t sit here and tell me that any one school has a larger fan base in Memphis. We sit on the border of Tennessee, Arkansas, and Mississippi. So between the three state flagships, and Alabama, there’s a massive SEC fan base here. Even so, none of them single-handedly outnumber the UofM in Memphis. Give me proof or STFU about your dopey opinions.

1. Memphis
2. UT / Ole Miss
3. Alabama
4. Arkansas / MSU

Is USF the majority in Tampa / St. Pete ?

Been there quite a bit, and have not noticed a lot of Bull gear.

(10-25-2019 08:35 AM)dwalker85 Wrote:  I absolutely love how non-Memphians are absolute experts on Memphis’ fan demographics.

Panama, if you want to give me the run down on Atlanta‘s overwhelming UGA population vs GT/GSU, I’ll listen. MTP, if you want to tell me LA Tech is second fiddle in Ruston to LSU, I’ll listen. But don’t sit here and tell me that any one school has a larger fan base in Memphis. We sit on the border of Tennessee, Arkansas, and Mississippi. So between the three state flagships, and Alabama, there’s a massive SEC fan base here. Even so, none of them single-handedly outnumber the UofM in Memphis. Give me proof or STFU about your dopey opinions.

1. Memphis
2. UT / Ole Miss
3. Alabama
4. Arkansas / MSU

clt says the ga southern fan is an expert in all fields

(10-25-2019 08:35 AM)dwalker85 Wrote:  I absolutely love how non-Memphians are absolute experts on Memphis’ fan demographics.

Panama, if you want to give me the run down on Atlanta‘s overwhelming UGA population vs GT/GSU, I’ll listen. MTP, if you want to tell me LA Tech is second fiddle in Ruston to LSU, I’ll listen. But don’t sit here and tell me that any one school has a larger fan base in Memphis. We sit on the border of Tennessee, Arkansas, and Mississippi. So between the three state flagships, and Alabama, there’s a massive SEC fan base here. Even so, none of them single-handedly outnumber the UofM in Memphis. Give me proof or STFU about your dopey opinions.

1. Memphis
2. UT / Ole Miss
3. Alabama
4. Arkansas / MSU

Got no love lost for any SEC squads or the Cartel 5. Nevertheless, It's hard to believe any G-5 school in/or near any major city in the south, including Memphis has more Sidewalk/Wal-Mart Fans than "the well-financed, heavily advertised, constantly promoted Big Boyz (like UT, Bama, Ole Miss, Auburn, Arkansas,Georgia, Fla, or various B10, ACC schools) Glad Memphis is playing so well of late; but I'd like to see your T-shirt sales and cap sales numbers before we crown you Kings of Fandom in the Bluff City.

fk cunti-Kunt and the esPenis and all they represent....

(10-25-2019 08:35 AM)dwalker85 Wrote:  I absolutely love how non-Memphians are absolute experts on Memphis’ fan demographics.

Panama, if you want to give me the run down on Atlanta‘s overwhelming UGA population vs GT/GSU, I’ll listen. MTP, if you want to tell me LA Tech is second fiddle in Ruston to LSU, I’ll listen. But don’t sit here and tell me that any one school has a larger fan base in Memphis. We sit on the border of Tennessee, Arkansas, and Mississippi. So between the three state flagships, and Alabama, there’s a massive SEC fan base here. Even so, none of them single-handedly outnumber the UofM in Memphis. Give me proof or STFU about your dopey opinions.

1. Memphis
2. UT / Ole Miss
3. Alabama
4. Arkansas / MSU

I've spent far more time in Memphis than I have Ruston, you clearly have a grip on this conversation...

Come to think of it, while I have been to Shreveport, I don't believe I've ever been to Ruston.

(10-25-2019 07:24 AM)panama Wrote:  

(10-22-2019 09:54 PM)72Tiger Wrote:  

(10-22-2019 03:52 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(10-22-2019 08:14 AM)odu09 Wrote:  

(10-21-2019 11:26 PM)panama Wrote:  You're hilarious in thinking any G5 is #1 in any major city. If they were they wouldn't be a g5.

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To be fair, he said #1 in their metro area. Not major city. That is one of the few advantages ODU has. There are no other sports in our area unless you want to count farm league hockey and baseball.

I'm not sure how that matters. Georgia Tech might be the most popular Atlanta based FBS program, but they aren't close to the most popular FBS program among Atlanta residents, they may not be in the top 5.

USF doesn't have the biggest fanbase in Tampa, Memphis doesn't have the biggest fanbase in Memphis, Tulane doesn't have the biggest fanbase in NOLA, etc etc.

In *every* AAC market of any remotely notable size, there is *at least* one P5 program with a larger fanbase.

Memphis has the largest fanbase in Memphis.

Lol

No

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You are wrong on this. It's a documented fact.

(10-25-2019 08:26 PM)72Tiger Wrote:  

(10-25-2019 07:24 AM)panama Wrote:  

(10-22-2019 09:54 PM)72Tiger Wrote:  

(10-22-2019 03:52 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(10-22-2019 08:14 AM)odu09 Wrote:  To be fair, he said #1 in their metro area. Not major city. That is one of the few advantages ODU has. There are no other sports in our area unless you want to count farm league hockey and baseball.

I'm not sure how that matters. Georgia Tech might be the most popular Atlanta based FBS program, but they aren't close to the most popular FBS program among Atlanta residents, they may not be in the top 5.

USF doesn't have the biggest fanbase in Tampa, Memphis doesn't have the biggest fanbase in Memphis, Tulane doesn't have the biggest fanbase in NOLA, etc etc.

In *every* AAC market of any remotely notable size, there is *at least* one P5 program with a larger fanbase.

Memphis has the largest fanbase in Memphis.

Lol

No

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You are wrong on this. It's a documented fact.

Then you would be in the SEC and playing in front of 80k and have a $90m budget


...and it's not personal. I have been impressed by Memphis for 35 years.

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(10-25-2019 08:26 PM)72Tiger Wrote:  

(10-25-2019 07:24 AM)panama Wrote:  

(10-22-2019 09:54 PM)72Tiger Wrote:  

(10-22-2019 03:52 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(10-22-2019 08:14 AM)odu09 Wrote:  To be fair, he said #1 in their metro area. Not major city. That is one of the few advantages ODU has. There are no other sports in our area unless you want to count farm league hockey and baseball.

I'm not sure how that matters. Georgia Tech might be the most popular Atlanta based FBS program, but they aren't close to the most popular FBS program among Atlanta residents, they may not be in the top 5.

USF doesn't have the biggest fanbase in Tampa, Memphis doesn't have the biggest fanbase in Memphis, Tulane doesn't have the biggest fanbase in NOLA, etc etc.

In *every* AAC market of any remotely notable size, there is *at least* one P5 program with a larger fanbase.

Memphis has the largest fanbase in Memphis.

Lol

No

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You are wrong on this. It's a documented fact.

I encourage doubters to review Memphis media (radio, print, social, TV, etc) attention to the Tigers compared to other schools.

Although Memphis has a fragmented fan base, clearly the Tigers receive the most media coverage.

(10-25-2019 11:13 PM)panama Wrote:  

(10-25-2019 08:26 PM)72Tiger Wrote:  

(10-25-2019 07:24 AM)panama Wrote:  

(10-22-2019 09:54 PM)72Tiger Wrote:  

(10-22-2019 03:52 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  I'm not sure how that matters. Georgia Tech might be the most popular Atlanta based FBS program, but they aren't close to the most popular FBS program among Atlanta residents, they may not be in the top 5.

USF doesn't have the biggest fanbase in Tampa, Memphis doesn't have the biggest fanbase in Memphis, Tulane doesn't have the biggest fanbase in NOLA, etc etc.

In *every* AAC market of any remotely notable size, there is *at least* one P5 program with a larger fanbase.

Memphis has the largest fanbase in Memphis.

Lol

No

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You are wrong on this. It's a documented fact.

Then you would be in the SEC and playing in front of 80k and have a $90m budget


...and it's not personal. I have been impressed by Memphis for 35 years.

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The question is which school has the largest fanbase in Memphis. The question is not the margin of the Tiger's #1 share. In other words, the city of Memphis is composed of many fanbases (UT, Ark, Ole Miss), but the Tigers hold the largest block of fans. Furthermore, many fans of SEC schools also support the Tigers, particularly in basketball.

Tigers fans are sensitive about the topic because it is an ongoing battle for fans in the Memphis area and SEC schools present a formittable challenge. However, I am happy to report that the trend is turning Memphis' way. The Tigers need to keep winning and promoting.

Addendum:

A school capable of generating a sizable crowd at the game and for ESPN’s Gameday adds more evidence to the Tigers’ #1 hold of the Memphis market.