UmbrellaRiver
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RE: Chase Potentially Leaving
(03-21-2019 05:57 PM)ttgwm02 Wrote: (03-20-2019 07:50 PM)Tribe32 Wrote: I've said it before. Both Huge and Rowe are rookies in their positions. Firsts for both. Rookies make mistakes. Let's see how they clean it up.
I disagree. When you are a rookie, and making a significant decision, you should consider all potential implications and, if the risks are uncertain or too significant, take a conservative approach.
In this case, let's look at the calculus. Milon, Pierce, and Knight are gone after next year. Chase is a freshman.
If you keep Tony, and have a bad season with the returning roster, you have stronger grounds to terminate.
If you keep Tony, and he makes the tournament, you only have four more seasons under his contract, and with the albatross gone, you likely see a greater uptick in revenue and recruiting.
In other words, keeping Tony has no real downside, absent evidence that returning players intended to transfer.
But if you fire Tony, you face the following risks: (1) a mass exodus; (2) a fan outcry; (3) making a bad hire; (4) getting turned down by your leading candidates; (5) losing existing, signed recruits; (6) getting crucified in the press; and (7) hiring a coach that recruits more like Boyages - players that are small but slow.
Huge weighed the risks and opted for hubris. I agree with Tribal that unless there are material, significant facts we do not know that cast a bad light on Tony, the move was self-serving and intended to position Huge to take credit for "transformational" leadership.
The only way to reward this approach is by imposing on her the consequences of poor judgment. If these players depart, and the program goes into a tailspin, she should be terminated. She's been here two years, more than enough time to recognize that W&M is not Texas A&M. Maybe next time we will hire an AD who could have gained admission to W&M as an undergraduate ...
Quite possibly the most well said post in the history of this thread! Is there a way to move that post to the top/front page of the message board?
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SoCal Frank
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RE: Chase Potentially Leaving
My first impression is that he’s gone. There’s a back up position; a wait and see. We cannot afford to lose this guy. It’s as simple as that.
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03-21-2019 10:02 PM |
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RE: Chase Potentially Leaving
IMO, Shaver represented our best opportunity in the coaching position to solidify the program and get to the Dance. He was fired.
It would be ironic if Huge represents our best opportunity to “modernize” the Athletics Department, and she, too, is fired.
Are there any adults in a position to do something about this that can step in, and stop the timer on the explosive device that’s about to activate?
A lot, and I mean a lot, is riding on who the next coach is. That exposes the enormity of the gamble / risk at play here.
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03-22-2019 08:29 AM |
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LeadBolt
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RE: Chase Potentially Leaving
Coach Holmes would not be a bad hire imho. There are several flashier possibilities that could be.
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03-22-2019 08:59 AM |
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Tribe32
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Chase Potentially Leaving
This situation with Huge reminds me of the Nichol debacle. Many parallels.
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03-22-2019 10:09 AM |
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TribeNomad
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RE: Chase Potentially Leaving
(03-22-2019 10:09 AM)Tribe32 Wrote: This situation with Huge reminds me of the Nichol debacle. Many parallels.
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Yeah, Nichol wanted to change the fabric. If the Shaver things stays sour and negative, is it Huge's baby, or does Rowe take the hit?
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03-22-2019 11:21 AM |
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Tribe32
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Chase Potentially Leaving
Wait until the facts surface and we will be able to judge better.
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03-22-2019 11:31 AM |
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RE: Chase Potentially Leaving
(03-22-2019 10:09 AM)Tribe32 Wrote: This situation with Huge reminds me of the Nichol debacle. Many parallels.
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From the Tin-Hat Conspiracy Corner:
Parallel? If I recall correctly, James McGlothlin withheld scheduled/promised donations to WM after Gene Nichol's actions had angered him to the point of no return. The money returned after Nichol was canned.
Not pinning this on McGlothlin or any other deep pocketed donor, but any AD worth his/her salt would have known the ramifications of firing Tony at this place and time in Tribe basketball history...but still she showed him the door. Money talks...and the recent non-answers from the Tribe media team only makes the whole thing feel more slimy.
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03-22-2019 12:42 PM |
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RE: Chase Potentially Leaving
(03-22-2019 11:31 AM)Tribe32 Wrote: Wait until the facts surface and we will be able to judge better.
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Agree hopefully soon.
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03-22-2019 08:26 PM |
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RE: Chase Potentially Leaving
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03-25-2019 07:56 AM |
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Tribe21
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RE: Chase Potentially Leaving
Lots of players put out highlight videos each season. I wouldn't read anything into it. Matt posted a sophomore highlight video as did Justin after his sophomore season.
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03-25-2019 08:32 AM |
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Tribeheart
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RE: Chase Potentially Leaving
(03-25-2019 08:32 AM)Tribe21 Wrote: Lots of players put out highlight videos each season. I wouldn't read anything into it. Matt posted a sophomore highlight video as did Justin after his sophomore season.
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The catch word is "after" the season, not with a month to go, and before going on a five game win streak to turn things around. Jockeying for a rookie award, maybe, but none of the other CAA all rookie players did. Not a good team look for Chase.
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03-25-2019 12:02 PM |
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Tribe21
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RE: Chase Potentially Leaving
Agreed it makes sense to wait until the end of the season. Unlike Matt and Justin, this video was released by a third party (with Chase's blessing I'm sure). So who knows the reason for the timing.
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03-25-2019 01:19 PM |
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bubbadog57
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RE: Chase Potentially Leaving
We're trying to read tea leaves. Nobody here know what his intentions were.
On all these guys we're just going to see what happens when the new coach arrives.
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03-26-2019 05:41 AM |
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RE: Chase Potentially Leaving
(03-26-2019 05:41 AM)bubbadog57 Wrote: We're trying to read tea leaves. Nobody here know what his intentions were.
Speak for yourself only.
The players in that locker room know what his intentions were.
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03-26-2019 10:24 AM |
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Tribe2011
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RE: Chase Potentially Leaving
(03-26-2019 10:24 AM)nj alum Wrote: (03-26-2019 05:41 AM)bubbadog57 Wrote: We're trying to read tea leaves. Nobody here know what his intentions were.
Speak for yourself only.
The players in that locker room know what his intentions were.
This board is amazingly entertaining.
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03-26-2019 11:53 AM |
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RE: Chase Potentially Leaving
(This post was last modified: 04-24-2019 06:32 AM by WillaMary08.)
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04-24-2019 05:28 AM |
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bubbadog57
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RE: Chase Potentially Leaving
These schools listed above are not worth the transfer and sitting out a year. No Power 5 Schools listed.
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04-24-2019 05:56 AM |
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Chase Potentially Leaving
Nevada was a 7th seed in the NCAAT.
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04-24-2019 06:36 AM |
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RE: Chase Potentially Leaving
Last time I looked, Providence was in the Big East.
As for Penn, great history, iconic home court, and Ivy League.
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