(03-15-2019 04:14 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  

(03-15-2019 02:44 PM)JRsec Wrote:  1. This is an awful event.
2. Yes the shooter should be dealt with as well as all who helped him.
3. But the failure here is the global PC that assumes that all cultures can peacefully coexist. They cannot. Islam is particularly and purposefully disruptive to free societies because while government mandates the tolerance they are to receive the Muslims afford no tolerance back to the tolerant society that permits their immigration.
4. Islam is not a peaceful religion. The Koran says to put to the sword the infidels who will not convert. And that edict applies where Muslims are in the majority.
5. Western civilization cannot practice the tolerance it loves to proclaim if it is going to be used against its citizens by a culture so alien to it that the two cannot peacefully coexist.

So without question the act is deplorable and heinous. But it may well be the act of frustrated people fed up with the insane policies of a government which has allowed a threat to their way of life to immigrate and exist among them.

England is trying hard to clamp a lid on a very potentially explosive problem with this in some of their cities. France has had issues enough to spur the rise of their nationalist party. Germany has a rebirth of national socialism born out of public ire over the issue.

The United States would be wise to take note, especially now that there are enough here to elect representatives who don't hesitate to spew their antisemitic views in our legislature.

Neither are the Jewish and Christians. We all had history in the past. We have An eye for an eye which is basically what the Koran teaches. Ireland had a former terrorist groups. Spain have the white Christian terrorist groups as the basque. We have a domestic terrorist problems with the KKK, neo-nazis, white Supremacists, white Naturalists, militias, New Black Panthers and so forth. We even have a Domestic Jewish terrorists group. We just can't just cherry pick which terror group to go after. We have to go after them all.

You do realize the groups you mentioned those people are born in the USA, are citizens and trace roots to ancestors who have been in the USA for generations. The guy in NZ railed against "immigration".

(03-15-2019 05:08 PM)CrimsonPhantom Wrote:  

Livestreamed on facebook, I first saw it on youtube, and clips are still accessible on twitter.

Why hasn’t stripe, paypal, and their domain registars terminated their agreements with these platforms of hate?

(03-15-2019 03:46 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(03-15-2019 03:28 PM)swagsurfer11 Wrote:  

(03-15-2019 02:44 PM)JRsec Wrote:  1. This is an awful event.
2. Yes the shooter should be dealt with as well as all who helped him.
3. But the failure here is the global PC that assumes that all cultures can peacefully coexist. They cannot. Islam is particularly and purposefully disruptive to free societies because while government mandates the tolerance they are to receive the Muslims afford no tolerance back to the tolerant society that permits their immigration.
4. Islam is not a peaceful religion. The Koran says to put to the sword the infidels who will not convert. And that edict applies where Muslims are in the majority.
5. Western civilization cannot practice the tolerance it loves to proclaim if it is going to be used against its citizens by a culture so alien to it that the two cannot peacefully coexist.

So without question the act is deplorable and heinous. But it may well be the act of frustrated people fed up with the insane policies of a government which has allowed a threat to their way of life to immigrate and exist among them.

England is trying hard to clamp a lid on a very potentially explosive problem with this in some of their cities. France has had issues enough to spur the rise of their nationalist party. Germany has a rebirth of national socialism born out of public ire over the issue.

The United States would be wise to take note, especially now that there are enough here to elect representatives who don't hesitate to spew their antisemitic views in our legislature.

Nope. This is the shooters fault. I’m not accepting responsibility for asshattery

Why not? Are you not an Asshat? The failure is not your's, or mine, it squarely belongs to the governments that permitted the immigration of a group that will not live peacefully with others. While the shooter deserves whatever he gets and more, the situation was created by the immigration policies, just like the situations brewing in the U.K., France, and Germany. The problem in Israel is unique in that by having Muslims among them it actually makes them safer. A Muslim who accidentally kills another Muslim isn't making heaven. So by having an integrated society it makes targeting Israel much less likely. So the tourism industry in Israel employs Muslim drivers and Israeli guides, it's better for the tourists. And many of the tour guides are retired Mossad. The idiot liberals that want to form two separate nations there are only hastening conflict.

A lot of stuff pisses me off yet I somehow find ways not to shoot person. People (not governments or religion) are responsible for their own actions.

(03-15-2019 05:08 PM)CrimsonPhantom Wrote:  

I'm okay with banning Facebook Live myself. Certainly individuals who stream events on it - maybe it can continue to exist for verified content for companies/organizations. But there seem to be way too many individuals who use the service for nefarious crap.

I would too. No need for muslims in NZ

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(03-15-2019 05:18 PM)swagsurfer11 Wrote:  

(03-15-2019 03:46 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(03-15-2019 03:28 PM)swagsurfer11 Wrote:  

(03-15-2019 02:44 PM)JRsec Wrote:  1. This is an awful event.
2. Yes the shooter should be dealt with as well as all who helped him.
3. But the failure here is the global PC that assumes that all cultures can peacefully coexist. They cannot. Islam is particularly and purposefully disruptive to free societies because while government mandates the tolerance they are to receive the Muslims afford no tolerance back to the tolerant society that permits their immigration.
4. Islam is not a peaceful religion. The Koran says to put to the sword the infidels who will not convert. And that edict applies where Muslims are in the majority.
5. Western civilization cannot practice the tolerance it loves to proclaim if it is going to be used against its citizens by a culture so alien to it that the two cannot peacefully coexist.

So without question the act is deplorable and heinous. But it may well be the act of frustrated people fed up with the insane policies of a government which has allowed a threat to their way of life to immigrate and exist among them.

England is trying hard to clamp a lid on a very potentially explosive problem with this in some of their cities. France has had issues enough to spur the rise of their nationalist party. Germany has a rebirth of national socialism born out of public ire over the issue.

The United States would be wise to take note, especially now that there are enough here to elect representatives who don't hesitate to spew their antisemitic views in our legislature.

Nope. This is the shooters fault. I’m not accepting responsibility for asshattery

Why not? Are you not an Asshat? The failure is not your's, or mine, it squarely belongs to the governments that permitted the immigration of a group that will not live peacefully with others. While the shooter deserves whatever he gets and more, the situation was created by the immigration policies, just like the situations brewing in the U.K., France, and Germany. The problem in Israel is unique in that by having Muslims among them it actually makes them safer. A Muslim who accidentally kills another Muslim isn't making heaven. So by having an integrated society it makes targeting Israel much less likely. So the tourism industry in Israel employs Muslim drivers and Israeli guides, it's better for the tourists. And many of the tour guides are retired Mossad. The idiot liberals that want to form two separate nations there are only hastening conflict.

A lot of stuff pisses me off yet I somehow find ways not to shoot person. People (not governments or religion) are responsible for their own actions.

When a drunk illegal from C. America mows down an american family, or the Indy Colts football player and his Uber driver, with his automobile I place more blame on government.

(03-15-2019 05:22 PM)fsquid Wrote:  I would too. No need for muslims in NZ

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Truth be told if I lived in London, Paris and other cities in Europe, and it was 1925 and I fell asleep reading Kalergi's book then woke up today and walked outside. I would have guessed that he was successful implementing his plan.

No clue what you are saying but how did that many get to island NZ

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(03-15-2019 05:18 PM)swagsurfer11 Wrote:  

(03-15-2019 03:46 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(03-15-2019 03:28 PM)swagsurfer11 Wrote:  

(03-15-2019 02:44 PM)JRsec Wrote:  1. This is an awful event.
2. Yes the shooter should be dealt with as well as all who helped him.
3. But the failure here is the global PC that assumes that all cultures can peacefully coexist. They cannot. Islam is particularly and purposefully disruptive to free societies because while government mandates the tolerance they are to receive the Muslims afford no tolerance back to the tolerant society that permits their immigration.
4. Islam is not a peaceful religion. The Koran says to put to the sword the infidels who will not convert. And that edict applies where Muslims are in the majority.
5. Western civilization cannot practice the tolerance it loves to proclaim if it is going to be used against its citizens by a culture so alien to it that the two cannot peacefully coexist.

So without question the act is deplorable and heinous. But it may well be the act of frustrated people fed up with the insane policies of a government which has allowed a threat to their way of life to immigrate and exist among them.

England is trying hard to clamp a lid on a very potentially explosive problem with this in some of their cities. France has had issues enough to spur the rise of their nationalist party. Germany has a rebirth of national socialism born out of public ire over the issue.

The United States would be wise to take note, especially now that there are enough here to elect representatives who don't hesitate to spew their antisemitic views in our legislature.

Nope. This is the shooters fault. I’m not accepting responsibility for asshattery

Why not? Are you not an Asshat? The failure is not your's, or mine, it squarely belongs to the governments that permitted the immigration of a group that will not live peacefully with others. While the shooter deserves whatever he gets and more, the situation was created by the immigration policies, just like the situations brewing in the U.K., France, and Germany. The problem in Israel is unique in that by having Muslims among them it actually makes them safer. A Muslim who accidentally kills another Muslim isn't making heaven. So by having an integrated society it makes targeting Israel much less likely. So the tourism industry in Israel employs Muslim drivers and Israeli guides, it's better for the tourists. And many of the tour guides are retired Mossad. The idiot liberals that want to form two separate nations there are only hastening conflict.

A lot of stuff pisses me off yet I somehow find ways not to shoot person. People (not governments or religion) are responsible for their own actions.

You are so very very wrong. Yes people are responsible for their actions and I believe I duly noted that. But governments are responsible for their actions, as are religious institutions. Were we not responsible for testing atomic weapons in the presence of our armed forces in order to study the active contamination of radioactivity at a distance? Are churches not responsible for the acts of their employees? Of course they are.

The permitting of an intolerant, non assimilating minority into a tolerant society is the responsibility of government. If you mix nitrogen with glycerin then you damned well better be responsible for the subsequent potentiality of an explosion.

(03-15-2019 05:31 PM)fsquid Wrote:  No clue what you are saying but how did that many get to island NZ

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NZ, not sure. Kalergi was a guy who wanted to destroy white Europeans with mass immigration, and breeding with non Europeans. He wanted Europeans to look like Egyptians, everyone is a brown worker bee ruled over by some sort of Jewish elite class. He also envisioned a borderless Europe, one Europe, no Britain, Germany, France etc.

(03-15-2019 06:37 PM)CrimsonPhantom Wrote:  

So many threats to worry about. Hope one of you on here doesn’t snap.

(03-15-2019 05:44 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  

(03-15-2019 05:31 PM)fsquid Wrote:  No clue what you are saying but how did that many get to island NZ

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NZ, not sure. Kalergi was a guy who wanted to destroy white Europeans with mass immigration, and breeding with non Europeans. He wanted Europeans to look like Egyptians, everyone is a brown worker bee ruled over by some sort of Jewish elite class. He also envisioned a borderless Europe, one Europe, no Britain, Germany, France etc.

I’m going to report you to the FBI.

(03-15-2019 05:33 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(03-15-2019 05:18 PM)swagsurfer11 Wrote:  

(03-15-2019 03:46 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(03-15-2019 03:28 PM)swagsurfer11 Wrote:  

(03-15-2019 02:44 PM)JRsec Wrote:  1. This is an awful event.
2. Yes the shooter should be dealt with as well as all who helped him.
3. But the failure here is the global PC that assumes that all cultures can peacefully coexist. They cannot. Islam is particularly and purposefully disruptive to free societies because while government mandates the tolerance they are to receive the Muslims afford no tolerance back to the tolerant society that permits their immigration.
4. Islam is not a peaceful religion. The Koran says to put to the sword the infidels who will not convert. And that edict applies where Muslims are in the majority.
5. Western civilization cannot practice the tolerance it loves to proclaim if it is going to be used against its citizens by a culture so alien to it that the two cannot peacefully coexist.

So without question the act is deplorable and heinous. But it may well be the act of frustrated people fed up with the insane policies of a government which has allowed a threat to their way of life to immigrate and exist among them.

England is trying hard to clamp a lid on a very potentially explosive problem with this in some of their cities. France has had issues enough to spur the rise of their nationalist party. Germany has a rebirth of national socialism born out of public ire over the issue.

The United States would be wise to take note, especially now that there are enough here to elect representatives who don't hesitate to spew their antisemitic views in our legislature.

Nope. This is the shooters fault. I’m not accepting responsibility for asshattery

Why not? Are you not an Asshat? The failure is not your's, or mine, it squarely belongs to the governments that permitted the immigration of a group that will not live peacefully with others. While the shooter deserves whatever he gets and more, the situation was created by the immigration policies, just like the situations brewing in the U.K., France, and Germany. The problem in Israel is unique in that by having Muslims among them it actually makes them safer. A Muslim who accidentally kills another Muslim isn't making heaven. So by having an integrated society it makes targeting Israel much less likely. So the tourism industry in Israel employs Muslim drivers and Israeli guides, it's better for the tourists. And many of the tour guides are retired Mossad. The idiot liberals that want to form two separate nations there are only hastening conflict.

A lot of stuff pisses me off yet I somehow find ways not to shoot person. People (not governments or religion) are responsible for their own actions.

You are so very very wrong. Yes people are responsible for their actions and I believe I duly noted that. But governments are responsible for their actions, as are religious institutions. Were we not responsible for testing atomic weapons in the presence of our armed forces in order to study the active contamination of radioactivity at a distance? Are churches not responsible for the acts of their employees? Of course they are.

The permitting of an intolerant, non assimilating minority into a tolerant society is the responsibility of government. If you mix nitrogen with glycerin then you damned well better be responsible for the subsequent potentiality of an explosion.

I don't live in NZ, but do they have an issue with Muslims not assimilating into their culture? Just asking because you seem to know.

This guy and all the people he referenced in his manifesto have jumped on the great replacement theory hook, line, and sinker.

(03-15-2019 06:51 PM)swagsurfer11 Wrote:  

(03-15-2019 05:44 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  

(03-15-2019 05:31 PM)fsquid Wrote:  No clue what you are saying but how did that many get to island NZ

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NZ, not sure. Kalergi was a guy who wanted to destroy white Europeans with mass immigration, and breeding with non Europeans. He wanted Europeans to look like Egyptians, everyone is a brown worker bee ruled over by some sort of Jewish elite class. He also envisioned a borderless Europe, one Europe, no Britain, Germany, France etc.

I’m going to report you to the FBI.

LOL FBI CIA all know about the Kalergi Plan




I am going to report you to the Kindergarten teacher.

(03-15-2019 06:49 PM)swagsurfer11 Wrote:  

(03-15-2019 06:37 PM)CrimsonPhantom Wrote:  

So many threats to worry about. Hope one of you on here doesn’t snap.

We don't worry about you snapping. To snap you'd have to have an original thought.

(03-15-2019 06:55 PM)bobdizole Wrote:  

(03-15-2019 05:33 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(03-15-2019 05:18 PM)swagsurfer11 Wrote:  

(03-15-2019 03:46 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(03-15-2019 03:28 PM)swagsurfer11 Wrote:  Nope. This is the shooters fault. I’m not accepting responsibility for asshattery

Why not? Are you not an Asshat? The failure is not your's, or mine, it squarely belongs to the governments that permitted the immigration of a group that will not live peacefully with others. While the shooter deserves whatever he gets and more, the situation was created by the immigration policies, just like the situations brewing in the U.K., France, and Germany. The problem in Israel is unique in that by having Muslims among them it actually makes them safer. A Muslim who accidentally kills another Muslim isn't making heaven. So by having an integrated society it makes targeting Israel much less likely. So the tourism industry in Israel employs Muslim drivers and Israeli guides, it's better for the tourists. And many of the tour guides are retired Mossad. The idiot liberals that want to form two separate nations there are only hastening conflict.

A lot of stuff pisses me off yet I somehow find ways not to shoot person. People (not governments or religion) are responsible for their own actions.

You are so very very wrong. Yes people are responsible for their actions and I believe I duly noted that. But governments are responsible for their actions, as are religious institutions. Were we not responsible for testing atomic weapons in the presence of our armed forces in order to study the active contamination of radioactivity at a distance? Are churches not responsible for the acts of their employees? Of course they are.

The permitting of an intolerant, non assimilating minority into a tolerant society is the responsibility of government. If you mix nitrogen with glycerin then you damned well better be responsible for the subsequent potentiality of an explosion.

I don't live in NZ, but do they have an issue with Muslims not assimilating into their culture? Just asking because you seem to know.

This guy and all the people he referenced in his manifesto have jumped on the great replacement theory hook, line, and sinker.

Muslims who practice their faith don't assimilate anywhere. They expect you to adopt their ways. Those we glibly call secular Muslims adherents would call unfaithful.

And for the record, I've known many practicing Muslims and liked them. I'm just saying that their culture and Western culture don't mix well.

(03-15-2019 10:52 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(03-15-2019 06:49 PM)swagsurfer11 Wrote:  

(03-15-2019 06:37 PM)CrimsonPhantom Wrote:  

So many threats to worry about. Hope one of you on here doesn’t snap.

We don't worry about you snapping. To snap you'd have to have an original thought.

You are just phoning them in now. Have the doc check your Thyroid at your next check up, your fatigue is showing with each post.

(03-15-2019 05:20 PM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote:  

(03-15-2019 05:08 PM)CrimsonPhantom Wrote:  

I'm okay with banning Facebook Live myself. Certainly individuals who stream events on it - maybe it can continue to exist for verified content for companies/organizations. But there seem to be way too many individuals who use the service for nefarious crap.

I agree.

(03-15-2019 06:37 PM)CrimsonPhantom Wrote:  

Wow. Are they really that tone deaf?