(01-19-2019 02:20 PM)Doglando Wrote:  

(01-19-2019 01:57 PM)ShockerFever Wrote:  

(01-19-2019 01:55 PM)Doglando Wrote:  

(01-19-2019 01:52 PM)ShockerFever Wrote:  

(01-19-2019 01:50 PM)Doglando Wrote:  what about returning an entire roster of scholarship players and becoming a worse team after joining a better league. concerning yet?

Ranked in the Top 10 most of the year, finishing a basket away from a conference title, and being a 4 seed in the NCAA's is becoming worse?

yes going from being a top 10 team in efficiency and returning a full team then finishing 20+ is getting worse

lol ok. I dunno why you're reaching so hard. All I did was make a realistic comment on your attendance and wish it was better. Sorry to rattle you so hard.

Carry on.

when you have to use conference standing and seed line to assess YoY performance for a team that switched conferences perhaps you may be the one that's reaching.

We went to a tougher conference. Of course our efficiency ratings were gonna drop. That's not earth-shadowing info.

But when you deviate from actual game results, then yes, that shows some reach. If game results don't matter, then wtf is the point?

(01-19-2019 02:20 PM)Stickboy46 Wrote:  Lol refs rigging this early

Do the refs rig every WSU game ? Not a diss. Just asking because WSU fouls a whole lot. All season they’ve fouled


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(01-19-2019 02:22 PM)justinhub2003 Wrote:  

(01-19-2019 02:20 PM)Stickboy46 Wrote:  Lol refs rigging this early

Do the refs rig every WSU game ? Not a diss. Just asking because WSU fouls a whole lot. All season they’ve fouled


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WSU does foul a lot but if you go back and look on replay, some of these calls and non-calls have been suspect.

(01-19-2019 02:22 PM)justinhub2003 Wrote:  

(01-19-2019 02:20 PM)Stickboy46 Wrote:  Lol refs rigging this early

Do the refs rig every WSU game ? Not a diss. Just asking because WSU fouls a whole lot. All season they’ve fouled


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But Cincy doesn’t? Refs have missed at least 5 hand checks

(01-19-2019 02:22 PM)justinhub2003 Wrote:  

(01-19-2019 02:20 PM)Stickboy46 Wrote:  Lol refs rigging this early

Do the refs rig every WSU game ? Not a diss. Just asking because WSU fouls a whole lot. All season they’ve fouled


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... UC defense still has issues but man, it’s not for lack of effort. They are trying


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(01-19-2019 02:23 PM)AndShock Wrote:  

(01-19-2019 02:22 PM)justinhub2003 Wrote:  

(01-19-2019 02:20 PM)Stickboy46 Wrote:  Lol refs rigging this early

Do the refs rig every WSU game ? Not a diss. Just asking because WSU fouls a whole lot. All season they’ve fouled


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But Cincy doesn’t? Refs have missed at least 5 hand checks

No where near the same


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(01-19-2019 02:20 PM)Doglando Wrote:  

(01-19-2019 01:57 PM)ShockerFever Wrote:  

(01-19-2019 01:55 PM)Doglando Wrote:  

(01-19-2019 01:52 PM)ShockerFever Wrote:  

(01-19-2019 01:50 PM)Doglando Wrote:  what about returning an entire roster of scholarship players and becoming a worse team after joining a better league. concerning yet?

Ranked in the Top 10 most of the year, finishing a basket away from a conference title, and being a 4 seed in the NCAA's is becoming worse?

yes going from being a top 10 team in efficiency and returning a full team then finishing 20+ is getting worse

lol ok. I dunno why you're reaching so hard. All I did was make a realistic comment on your attendance and wish it was better. Sorry to rattle you so hard.

Carry on.

when you have to use conference standing and seed line to assess YoY performance for a team that switched conferences perhaps you may be the one that's reaching.

Ahhhhhh, it's clear who is reaching. That turn out was embarrassing for the team picked to win the conference and performing up to expectations. Not sure why they aren't showing up, your team is good. It won't matter for whether you make the NCAAs. It would be better if you had a fuller home crowd. Tulsa will probably look worse next home game. It would be better if WSU was winning more this year to go with outrageous support. Mick said it best though, that crowd feels it's part of the team and they are trying to help them in a tough year. We all want that. And wins.

i hate our team

cant close period

(01-19-2019 02:29 PM)panicstricken Wrote:  i hate our team

cant close period

But you got that annual UCONN win at home, which is what matters most.

(01-19-2019 02:21 PM)ShockerFever Wrote:  

(01-19-2019 02:20 PM)Doglando Wrote:  

(01-19-2019 01:57 PM)ShockerFever Wrote:  

(01-19-2019 01:55 PM)Doglando Wrote:  

(01-19-2019 01:52 PM)ShockerFever Wrote:  Ranked in the Top 10 most of the year, finishing a basket away from a conference title, and being a 4 seed in the NCAA's is becoming worse?

yes going from being a top 10 team in efficiency and returning a full team then finishing 20+ is getting worse

lol ok. I dunno why you're reaching so hard. All I did was make a realistic comment on your attendance and wish it was better. Sorry to rattle you so hard.

Carry on.

when you have to use conference standing and seed line to assess YoY performance for a team that switched conferences perhaps you may be the one that's reaching.

We went to a tougher conference. Of course our efficiency ratings were gonna drop. That's not earth-shadowing info.

But when you deviate from actual game results, then yes, that shows some reach. If game results don't matter, then wtf is the point?

i speak only of efficiency ratings that are SOS adjusted, so schedule shouldn't matter.

I'm surprised you are even arguing that wichita state didnt decline from '17 to '18. I thought that was obvious

(01-19-2019 02:27 PM)Foreverandever Wrote:  

(01-19-2019 02:20 PM)Doglando Wrote:  

(01-19-2019 01:57 PM)ShockerFever Wrote:  

(01-19-2019 01:55 PM)Doglando Wrote:  

(01-19-2019 01:52 PM)ShockerFever Wrote:  Ranked in the Top 10 most of the year, finishing a basket away from a conference title, and being a 4 seed in the NCAA's is becoming worse?

yes going from being a top 10 team in efficiency and returning a full team then finishing 20+ is getting worse

lol ok. I dunno why you're reaching so hard. All I did was make a realistic comment on your attendance and wish it was better. Sorry to rattle you so hard.

Carry on.

when you have to use conference standing and seed line to assess YoY performance for a team that switched conferences perhaps you may be the one that's reaching.

Ahhhhhh, it's clear who is reaching. That turn out was embarrassing for the team picked to win the conference and performing up to expectations. Not sure why they aren't showing up, your team is good. It won't matter for whether you make the NCAAs. It would be better if you had a fuller home crowd. Tulsa will probably look worse next home game. It would be better if WSU was winning more this year to go with outrageous support. Mick said it best though, that crowd feels it's part of the team and they are trying to help them in a tough year. We all want that. And wins.

What this guy said.

(01-19-2019 02:26 PM)justinhub2003 Wrote:  

(01-19-2019 02:23 PM)AndShock Wrote:  

(01-19-2019 02:22 PM)justinhub2003 Wrote:  

(01-19-2019 02:20 PM)Stickboy46 Wrote:  Lol refs rigging this early

Do the refs rig every WSU game ? Not a diss. Just asking because WSU fouls a whole lot. All season they’ve fouled


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But Cincy doesn’t? Refs have missed at least 5 hand checks

No where near the same


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Actually pretty close to the same in this game.

(01-19-2019 02:30 PM)Doglando Wrote:  

(01-19-2019 02:21 PM)ShockerFever Wrote:  

(01-19-2019 02:20 PM)Doglando Wrote:  

(01-19-2019 01:57 PM)ShockerFever Wrote:  

(01-19-2019 01:55 PM)Doglando Wrote:  yes going from being a top 10 team in efficiency and returning a full team then finishing 20+ is getting worse

lol ok. I dunno why you're reaching so hard. All I did was make a realistic comment on your attendance and wish it was better. Sorry to rattle you so hard.

Carry on.

when you have to use conference standing and seed line to assess YoY performance for a team that switched conferences perhaps you may be the one that's reaching.

We went to a tougher conference. Of course our efficiency ratings were gonna drop. That's not earth-shadowing info.

But when you deviate from actual game results, then yes, that shows some reach. If game results don't matter, then wtf is the point?

i speak only of efficiency ratings that are SOS adjusted, so schedule shouldn't matter.

I'm surprised you are even arguing that wichita state didnt decline from '17 to '18. I thought that was obvious

I guess you can say regressed in efficiency. But in actual results? Negative.

(01-19-2019 02:30 PM)Doglando Wrote:  

(01-19-2019 02:21 PM)ShockerFever Wrote:  

(01-19-2019 02:20 PM)Doglando Wrote:  

(01-19-2019 01:57 PM)ShockerFever Wrote:  

(01-19-2019 01:55 PM)Doglando Wrote:  yes going from being a top 10 team in efficiency and returning a full team then finishing 20+ is getting worse

lol ok. I dunno why you're reaching so hard. All I did was make a realistic comment on your attendance and wish it was better. Sorry to rattle you so hard.

Carry on.

when you have to use conference standing and seed line to assess YoY performance for a team that switched conferences perhaps you may be the one that's reaching.

We went to a tougher conference. Of course our efficiency ratings were gonna drop. That's not earth-shadowing info.

But when you deviate from actual game results, then yes, that shows some reach. If game results don't matter, then wtf is the point?

i speak only of efficiency ratings that are SOS adjusted, so schedule shouldn't matter.

I'm surprised you are even arguing that wichita state didnt decline from '17 to '18. I thought that was obvious

Not obvious to 99% of this board. You must have missed last season.

The F(or)ever Alliance continues!

Doglando is usually a pretty good, level-headed poster.

I honestly didn't think the attendance comment was that harsh or would hit him that hard.

So far it doesn’t seem jarron has it today


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(01-19-2019 02:35 PM)justinhub2003 Wrote:  So far it doesn’t seem jarron has it today


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He just outrebounded 3 guys for a putback.

(01-19-2019 02:30 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  

(01-19-2019 02:29 PM)panicstricken Wrote:  i hate our team

cant close period

But you got that annual UCONN win at home, which is what matters most.

your pain and suffering is the o nly thing. keeping me alive at this point

(01-19-2019 02:35 PM)ShockerFever Wrote:  Doglando is usually a pretty good, level-headed poster.

I honestly didn't think the attendance comment was that harsh or would hit him that hard.

I'm all for attendance smack. it was delivering it under the guise of "hurting this league as a legit conference" that tilted me. Ucf attendance doesnt sniff the top 10 factors hurting us from being a legit conference