It’s nice to have a program that people plan on attending football games.

To be fair, both conferences took huge risks bringing up schools and taking startups. Some schools were instant hits, some look like duds and some it's hard to tell yet.

Obviously App has been the biggest hit so far and we have to give a nod to the Sun Belt for their choice. UTSA and ODU have had success. Georgia Southern, South Alabama and Georgia State seem to be solid choices as well. Coastal, Texas State, and Charlotte have struggled mightily in the "revenue" sports but it's easy to see potential in all 3. Texas State bball already looking up.

I do think about what it would be like if we had taken App instead of Charlotte, but at the time it was a crapshoot. Who knows, maybe Charlotte really is the sleeping giant that people say they are.

(01-16-2019 10:29 PM)THUNDERStruck73 Wrote:  

(01-16-2019 10:10 PM)herdfan129 Wrote:  

(01-16-2019 09:34 PM)Tintin Wrote:  

(01-16-2019 08:20 PM)rileylives Wrote:  Charlotte fans are the worst. Honestly, who the hell do you think you are?

You are damn lucky to be here. I feel sorry for the few good Charlotte posters here, because 90% of you suck ass.

Here’s the reality. North Carolina tobacco road schools dominate the conscience.

Charlotte could go 11-1, and it won’t make a blip in that state.

This is so dumb. You all make it hard to root for you little guys in “the city.”

Please. App has and always has had a six day athletic season. You couldnt fill up our stadium at the Belt championship game.

The mountains are pretty, but nobody goes there without planning for it. See every sport App plays except football No attendance, no plan to get better at anything, no plan to upgrade facilities.

As for Marshall, look around your state. You know why it looks that way? Lack of planning and looking at the big picture.

Charlotte athletics was in neutral and reverse the better part of 15 years. We now have leaders that are pulling us out of it. We’ve got the money, and support to grow dramatically. Can you say the same!

I love our state AND the way it looks. Most importantly, I'm so glad that people like you stick your nose up at our state. Means we don't have to worry about you ever moving here. Probably couldn't hack it anyways.

Eh, Tintin’s good people. I think he’s just either venting or sticking up for Charlotte. Fair enough.

That’s how I see it too.

(01-16-2019 10:35 PM)Saint3333 Wrote:  It’s nice to have a program that people plan on attending football games.

Very true. But just like anyone else. We all have our realistic fans, our pessimistic ones, our delusional ones, and our obnoxious ones.

Glad we have Appalachian State on the schedule. We’ll help fill your stadium as I am sure you’ll help fill ours. Gotcha popcawn ready brother! Dis gonna be good!

In all seriousness, I am glad to get you on an even playing field. I can’t brag about a win over App when you had 20 less schollies. I’d bet on a split in this upcoming series. I’d like to get Southern on the schedule too.
THere are many who would call me crazy, but we have a long history.

Oh Lord, Fairfield rocked when you all came to town..lol.

(01-16-2019 10:45 PM)Magic95Fan Wrote:  To be fair, both conferences took huge risks bringing up schools and taking startups. Some schools were instant hits, some look like duds and some it's hard to tell yet.

Obviously App has been the biggest hit so far and we have to give a nod to the Sun Belt for their choice. UTSA and ODU have had success. Georgia Southern, South Alabama and Georgia State seem to be solid choices as well. Coastal, Texas State, and Charlotte have struggled mightily in the "revenue" sports but it's easy to see potential in all 3. Texas State bball already looking up.

I do think about what it would be like if we had taken App instead of Charlotte, but at the time it was a crapshoot. Who knows, maybe Charlotte really is the sleeping giant that people say they are.

This is great and all. But keep in mind odu has outperformed north Texas across the board since joining. Take a step back before saying who belongs and doesn’t. Also believe Charlotte has a much more recognizable name than north Texas or app.

(01-16-2019 10:54 PM)ODU2011 Wrote:  

(01-16-2019 10:45 PM)Magic95Fan Wrote:  To be fair, both conferences took huge risks bringing up schools and taking startups. Some schools were instant hits, some look like duds and some it's hard to tell yet.

Obviously App has been the biggest hit so far and we have to give a nod to the Sun Belt for their choice. UTSA and ODU have had success. Georgia Southern, South Alabama and Georgia State seem to be solid choices as well. Coastal, Texas State, and Charlotte have struggled mightily in the "revenue" sports but it's easy to see potential in all 3. Texas State bball already looking up.

I do think about what it would be like if we had taken App instead of Charlotte, but at the time it was a crapshoot. Who knows, maybe Charlotte really is the sleeping giant that people say they are.

This is great and all. But keep in mind odu has outperformed north Texas across the board since joining. Take a step back before saying who belongs and doesn’t. Also believe Charlotte has a much more recognizable name than north Texas or app.

Not in football.

But granted. Charlotte does have a name and I hope the 49ers get strong. We need that in CUSA. We all need to get better out of conference.

(01-16-2019 10:54 PM)ODU2011 Wrote:  

(01-16-2019 10:45 PM)Magic95Fan Wrote:  To be fair, both conferences took huge risks bringing up schools and taking startups. Some schools were instant hits, some look like duds and some it's hard to tell yet.

Obviously App has been the biggest hit so far and we have to give a nod to the Sun Belt for their choice. UTSA and ODU have had success. Georgia Southern, South Alabama and Georgia State seem to be solid choices as well. Coastal, Texas State, and Charlotte have struggled mightily in the "revenue" sports but it's easy to see potential in all 3. Texas State bball already looking up.

I do think about what it would be like if we had taken App instead of Charlotte, but at the time it was a crapshoot. Who knows, maybe Charlotte really is the sleeping giant that people say they are.

This is great and all. But keep in mind odu has outperformed north Texas across the board since joining. Take a step back before saying who belongs and doesn’t. Also believe Charlotte has a much more recognizable name than north Texas or app.

I meant that in a way that ODU and UTSA were good adds. I agree that Charlotte had the name. It just hasnt worked out. When UNT was added, we were struggling in all sports, no question. But UNT was a safe add for CUSA. We are a school that is growing exponentially, and the money is going to grow too, even with our crappy TV deal. We may always be choke masters and never perennial champs, but CUSA knew what they were getting with UNT. The startups and callups were risks. You just dont know how a school is going to handle FBS level budgets and competition.

(01-16-2019 11:12 PM)Magic95Fan Wrote:  

(01-16-2019 10:54 PM)ODU2011 Wrote:  

(01-16-2019 10:45 PM)Magic95Fan Wrote:  To be fair, both conferences took huge risks bringing up schools and taking startups. Some schools were instant hits, some look like duds and some it's hard to tell yet.

Obviously App has been the biggest hit so far and we have to give a nod to the Sun Belt for their choice. UTSA and ODU have had success. Georgia Southern, South Alabama and Georgia State seem to be solid choices as well. Coastal, Texas State, and Charlotte have struggled mightily in the "revenue" sports but it's easy to see potential in all 3. Texas State bball already looking up.

I do think about what it would be like if we had taken App instead of Charlotte, but at the time it was a crapshoot. Who knows, maybe Charlotte really is the sleeping giant that people say they are.

This is great and all. But keep in mind odu has outperformed north Texas across the board since joining. Take a step back before saying who belongs and doesn’t. Also believe Charlotte has a much more recognizable name than north Texas or app.

I meant that in a way that ODU and UTSA were good adds. I agree that Charlotte had the name. It just hasnt worked out. When UNT was added, we were struggling in all sports, no question. But UNT was a safe add for CUSA. We are a school that is growing exponentially, and the money is going to grow too, even with our crappy TV deal. We may always be choke masters and never perennial champs, but CUSA knew what they were getting with UNT. The startups and callups were risks. You just dont know how a school is going to handle FBS level budgets and competition.

Without comment. But +3.

(01-16-2019 11:12 PM)Magic95Fan Wrote:  

(01-16-2019 10:54 PM)ODU2011 Wrote:  

(01-16-2019 10:45 PM)Magic95Fan Wrote:  To be fair, both conferences took huge risks bringing up schools and taking startups. Some schools were instant hits, some look like duds and some it's hard to tell yet.

Obviously App has been the biggest hit so far and we have to give a nod to the Sun Belt for their choice. UTSA and ODU have had success. Georgia Southern, South Alabama and Georgia State seem to be solid choices as well. Coastal, Texas State, and Charlotte have struggled mightily in the "revenue" sports but it's easy to see potential in all 3. Texas State bball already looking up.

I do think about what it would be like if we had taken App instead of Charlotte, but at the time it was a crapshoot. Who knows, maybe Charlotte really is the sleeping giant that people say they are.

This is great and all. But keep in mind odu has outperformed north Texas across the board since joining. Take a step back before saying who belongs and doesn’t. Also believe Charlotte has a much more recognizable name than north Texas or app.

I meant that in a way that ODU and UTSA were good adds. I agree that Charlotte had the name. It just hasnt worked out. When UNT was added, we were struggling in all sports, no question. But UNT was a safe add for CUSA. We are a school that is growing exponentially, and the money is going to grow too, even with our crappy TV deal. We may always be choke masters and never perennial champs, but CUSA knew what they were getting with UNT. The startups and callups were risks. You just dont know how a school is going to handle FBS level budgets and competition.

Fair point.

(01-16-2019 11:05 PM)THUNDERStruck73 Wrote:  

(01-16-2019 10:54 PM)ODU2011 Wrote:  

(01-16-2019 10:45 PM)Magic95Fan Wrote:  To be fair, both conferences took huge risks bringing up schools and taking startups. Some schools were instant hits, some look like duds and some it's hard to tell yet.

Obviously App has been the biggest hit so far and we have to give a nod to the Sun Belt for their choice. UTSA and ODU have had success. Georgia Southern, South Alabama and Georgia State seem to be solid choices as well. Coastal, Texas State, and Charlotte have struggled mightily in the "revenue" sports but it's easy to see potential in all 3. Texas State bball already looking up.

I do think about what it would be like if we had taken App instead of Charlotte, but at the time it was a crapshoot. Who knows, maybe Charlotte really is the sleeping giant that people say they are.

This is great and all. But keep in mind odu has outperformed north Texas across the board since joining. Take a step back before saying who belongs and doesn’t. Also believe Charlotte has a much more recognizable name than north Texas or app.

Not in football.

No way to prove either argument. But let’s just say if they hadn’t beaten Michigan yearrrss ago no one would know or care.

Pulls Charlotte's chain a little, starts a civil war between Charlotte and Appy, drags in Marshall fans to take a side....my work is done here.

clt says everyone fears what Charlotte is turning into.

(01-17-2019 06:57 AM)ghostofclt! Wrote:  clt says everyone fears what Charlotte is turning into.

Things will be easier now that got rid of the two boat anchors in Judy Rose and Brad Lambert.

(01-17-2019 06:57 AM)ghostofclt! Wrote:  clt says everyone fears what Charlotte is turning into.

(01-17-2019 06:57 AM)ghostofclt! Wrote:  clt says everyone fears what Charlotte is turning into.

Dumpster fires are pretty scary up close

(01-17-2019 09:56 AM)TrueBlueDrew Wrote:  

(01-17-2019 06:57 AM)ghostofclt! Wrote:  clt says everyone fears what Charlotte is turning into.

Dumpster fires are pretty scary up close

http://www.espn.com/college-football/gam...=400763587

clt says scoreboard! in our first FBS game

I think some people in our conference ideally think they should be in a conference by themselves, because no other school measures up.

If you really want to measure the value of a program to a conference don't look at what they are at the peak of their success, but look at when they are struggling. I think we all know that in G5 sports programs cycle through the range.

Today it is a no brainer to think App football would be a good add, but their basketball is horrible. Can they fix that? Their fans believe they cannot afford the $200k buyout required to get rid of Coach Fox, so they are going to have to live with it. In football, Coach Satterfield's teams were arguably more successful than App has ever been. He is gone, and took his best assistants with him. Can Drinkwitz maintain their level over the next five years? Nobody knows, but if not, what will App do about it? Will they fire him and hire a better coach? No doubt football means everything to them, but if they cannot fix basketball at $200k what options will they have?

I speak with some authority on this subject because Charlotte has had a bad run in basketball for the past 13 or so years, and mediocre was our high point. To fix this we have fired three coaches and paid them off to fix the problem. Additionally, we felt that swinging and missing on two of the replacement hires identified a problem at the top, so we replaced our AD too. It will take a little time to see if we got it right, but we have the desire and resources to do what needs to be done. We are determined to be much better.

Now, App fans may tell you that football success is their birthright and they will never lose. I point to ECU. Look how quickly they went south. It happens. Probably to all of us. Luckily for the Pirates they have the resources and desire to make changes in both football and basketball, and they are trying to turn it around.

You get conference mates through the good and the bad. Judge their value by how they handle the bad. Everyone looks good when they are winning.

(01-17-2019 11:08 AM)Nugget49er Wrote:  I think some people in our conference ideally think they should be in a conference by themselves, because no other school measures up.

If you really want to measure the value of a program to a conference don't look at what they are at the peak of their success, but look at when they are struggling. I think we all know that in G5 sports programs cycle through the range.

Today it is a no brainer to think App football would be a good add, but their basketball is horrible. Can they fix that? Their fans believe they cannot afford the $200k buyout required to get rid of Coach Fox, so they are going to have to live with it. In football, Coach Satterfield's teams were arguably more successful than App has ever been. He is gone, and took his best assistants with him. Can Drinkwitz maintain their level over the next five years? Nobody knows, but if not, what will App do about it? Will they fire him and hire a better coach? No doubt football means everything to them, but if they cannot fix basketball at $200k what options will they have?

I speak with some authority on this subject because Charlotte has had a bad run in basketball for the past 13 or so years, and mediocre was our high point. To fix this we have fired three coaches and paid them off to fix the problem. Additionally, we felt that swinging and missing on two of the replacement hires identified a problem at the top, so we replaced our AD too. It will take a little time to see if we got it right, but we have the desire and resources to do what needs to be done. We are determined to be much better.

Now, App fans may tell you that football success is their birthright and they will never lose. I point to ECU. Look how quickly they went south. It happens. Probably to all of us. Luckily for the Pirates they have the resources and desire to make changes in both football and basketball, and they are trying to turn it around.

You get conference mates through the good and the bad. Judge their value by how they handle the bad. Everyone looks good when they are winning.

Not true. Other schools in this conference measure up Charlotte and its stadium of 15k does not measure up.

I think most programs can get it figured out over a 13 year period lol.

Agree about G5s going in cycles.

(01-17-2019 11:08 AM)Nugget49er Wrote:  I think some people in our conference ideally think they should be in a conference by themselves, because no other school measures up.

"Any conference that is willing to have <INSERT YOUR TEAM'S NAME HERE> is not good enough of a conference for my team to be in."

It seems for a good portion of our conference there is the proper investment happening in athletics and with some stability in the leadership at various schools the conference will dramatically improve.