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(01-17-2019 02:04 PM)CliftonAve Wrote:  How about the unis from the 1970s that simply said "The Cats"

One of our greats Lloyd Batts. Too bad the three point shot wasn't a rule when he played. Great shooter but a very flat shot. Top rated player out of Chicago and Illinois in early 70's. I believe we beat out Purdue for him.

(01-17-2019 03:52 PM)cincybb51 Wrote:  

(01-17-2019 02:04 PM)CliftonAve Wrote:  How about the unis from the 1970s that simply said "The Cats"

One of our greats Lloyd Batts. Too bad the three point shot wasn't a rule when he played. Great shooter but a very flat shot. Top rated player out of Chicago and Illinois in early 70's. I believe we beat out Purdue for him.

Bolded, don't tell Jerry Palm or we'll be forever banished from his brackets.

Regarding Batts, he was very dynamic and would have benefited from the three pointer. Another dynamic player from the mid-70's was the late Brian Williams. Exciting scorer on those very entertaining Gale Catlett coached teams. He too would have benefited from the three point line.

Seeing that photo reminded me that UC beat Marquette at Riverfront Coliseum in front of a packed house the season the Warriors (at that time) went on to win a national championship weeks later. Great tradition lives here.

(01-17-2019 04:39 PM)OKIcat Wrote:  

(01-17-2019 03:52 PM)cincybb51 Wrote:  

(01-17-2019 02:04 PM)CliftonAve Wrote:  How about the unis from the 1970s that simply said "The Cats"

One of our greats Lloyd Batts. Too bad the three point shot wasn't a rule when he played. Great shooter but a very flat shot. Top rated player out of Chicago and Illinois in early 70's. I believe we beat out Purdue for him.

Bolded, don't tell Jerry Palm or we'll be forever banished from his brackets.

Regarding Batts, he was very dynamic and would have benefited from the three pointer. Another dynamic player from the mid-70's was the late Brian Williams. Exciting scorer on those very entertaining Gale Catlett coached teams. He too would have benefited from the three point line.

Seeing that photo reminded me that UC beat Marquette at Riverfront Coliseum in front of a packed house the season the Warriors (at that time) went on to win a national championship weeks later. Great tradition lives here.

Well definitely don't tell Jerry that in the sixties Ron Bonham enrolled at Purdue for a few days before switching to become part of our greatest era.

Looks like the Purdue mojo's worked. Palm has us out of the last 4 in to a 10 seed with a bullet.

https://www.cbssports.com/college-basket...cketology/

Up to an 8 on the new espn brackets.

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketb...acketology

Even our buddy palms pushed us up a spot

https://www.cbssports.com/college-basket...cketology/

(01-22-2019 01:16 PM)dsquare Wrote:  Up to an 8 on the new espn brackets.

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketb...acketology

Even our buddy palms pushed us up a spot

https://www.cbssports.com/college-basket...cketology/

Seems to me there is a pretty significant drop off from the 2 seeds to the 3 seeds (at least in Palm's bracket). Winning enough games to get to a 6 would be huge.

2 seeds: Kansas, Gonzaga, Kentucky, Michigan St
3 seeds: Maryland, Marquette, Virginia Tech, Houston

(01-16-2019 02:00 PM)Lush Wrote:  

(01-15-2019 04:18 PM)Bearcat2012 Wrote:  

(01-15-2019 03:58 PM)dsquare Wrote:  Two widely different perspectives of the Cats:

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketb...acketology

https://www.cbssports.com/college-basket...cketology/

Jerry Palm hates us every year.

is he wrong? last four in seems about right for this squad

I concur. This is a bubble team right now. According to Sagarin, still one of the weakest schedules in the top 25 (surprised? NOT.) and no current record of elite victories.

Let’s hope UC beats UCF and Houston because the rest of the schedule isn’t going to get them there.

(01-22-2019 03:07 PM)BearcatsUC Wrote:  

(01-16-2019 02:00 PM)Lush Wrote:  

(01-15-2019 04:18 PM)Bearcat2012 Wrote:  

(01-15-2019 03:58 PM)dsquare Wrote:  Two widely different perspectives of the Cats:

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketb...acketology

https://www.cbssports.com/college-basket...cketology/

Jerry Palm hates us every year.

is he wrong? last four in seems about right for this squad

I concur. This is a bubble team right now. According to Sagarin, still one of the weakest schedules in the top 25 (surprised? NOT.) and no current record of elite victories.

Let’s hope UC beats UCF and Houston because the rest of the schedule isn’t going to get them there.

This is the problem with being dependent upon the non-conference games to undergird the strength of schedule. Overall, UC scheduled well enough for November/December but who knew the wheels would fall off for UCLA, X and UNLV?

In the old Big East UC could count on quality opponents weekly. The American hasn't held up it's end of the bargain with the fall of UCONN and Memphis and the failure of other teams such as Temple to perform at a consistently high level. This puts a lot of pressure on this Bearcat team to win often, home and away, next month and may keep us guessing about the NCAA bid nearly all the way to Selection Sunday.

(01-22-2019 03:07 PM)BearcatsUC Wrote:  

(01-16-2019 02:00 PM)Lush Wrote:  

(01-15-2019 04:18 PM)Bearcat2012 Wrote:  

(01-15-2019 03:58 PM)dsquare Wrote:  Two widely different perspectives of the Cats:

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketb...acketology

https://www.cbssports.com/college-basket...cketology/

Jerry Palm hates us every year.

is he wrong? last four in seems about right for this squad

I concur. This is a bubble team right now. According to Sagarin, still one of the weakest schedules in the top 25 (surprised? NOT.) and no current record of elite victories.

Let’s hope UC beats UCF and Houston because the rest of the schedule isn’t going to get them there.

They need to split those games. If they could steal one on the road all the better. Obviously, you can't drop games to the Smu's of the world which changes the complexion of everything. Uconn on the road will not be a terrible loss if it were to happen. This isn't a real strong year for at large teams right now. Could change if some field horses go on big winning streaks, but everyone will likely take their share of losses. This predictor has them splitting the big road games, and still ending up 17 in rpi at 24 and 7.

http://realtimerpi.com/rpi_217_Men.html

I suspect we will get a home game in the NIT. Will you attend?

(01-22-2019 07:05 PM)doss2 Wrote:  I suspect we will get a home game in the NIT. Will you attend?

Will you?

(01-22-2019 06:12 PM)dsquare Wrote:  

(01-22-2019 03:07 PM)BearcatsUC Wrote:  

(01-16-2019 02:00 PM)Lush Wrote:  

(01-15-2019 04:18 PM)Bearcat2012 Wrote:  

(01-15-2019 03:58 PM)dsquare Wrote:  Two widely different perspectives of the Cats:

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketb...acketology

https://www.cbssports.com/college-basket...cketology/

Jerry Palm hates us every year.

is he wrong? last four in seems about right for this squad

I concur. This is a bubble team right now. According to Sagarin, still one of the weakest schedules in the top 25 (surprised? NOT.) and no current record of elite victories.

Let’s hope UC beats UCF and Houston because the rest of the schedule isn’t going to get them there.

They need to split those games. If they could steal one on the road all the better. Obviously, you can't drop games to the Smu's of the world which changes the complexion of everything. Uconn on the road will not be a terrible loss if it were to happen. This isn't a real strong year for at large teams right now. Could change if some field horses go on big winning streaks, but everyone will likely take their share of losses. This predictor has them splitting the big road games, and still ending up 17 in rpi at 24 and 7.

http://realtimerpi.com/rpi_217_Men.html

RPI doesn’t matter. NET does. Actually who you beat matters more.

(01-22-2019 07:55 PM)bearcatlawjd2 Wrote:  

(01-22-2019 06:12 PM)dsquare Wrote:  

(01-22-2019 03:07 PM)BearcatsUC Wrote:  

(01-16-2019 02:00 PM)Lush Wrote:  

(01-15-2019 04:18 PM)Bearcat2012 Wrote:  Jerry Palm hates us every year.

is he wrong? last four in seems about right for this squad

I concur. This is a bubble team right now. According to Sagarin, still one of the weakest schedules in the top 25 (surprised? NOT.) and no current record of elite victories.

Let’s hope UC beats UCF and Houston because the rest of the schedule isn’t going to get them there.

They need to split those games. If they could steal one on the road all the better. Obviously, you can't drop games to the Smu's of the world which changes the complexion of everything. Uconn on the road will not be a terrible loss if it were to happen. This isn't a real strong year for at large teams right now. Could change if some field horses go on big winning streaks, but everyone will likely take their share of losses. This predictor has them splitting the big road games, and still ending up 17 in rpi at 24 and 7.

http://realtimerpi.com/rpi_217_Men.html

RPI doesn’t matter. NET does. Actually who you beat matters more.

The "NET" ranks us exactly the same #32 as the base rpi:

https://www.ncaa.com/rankings/basketball...t-rankings

(01-22-2019 07:13 PM)WalterSobchak Wrote:  

(01-22-2019 07:05 PM)doss2 Wrote:  I suspect we will get a home game in the NIT. Will you attend?

Will you?

I cancelled my center seats after years of Mickey, when he leaves I will return.

(01-22-2019 11:02 PM)dsquare Wrote:  

(01-22-2019 07:55 PM)bearcatlawjd2 Wrote:  

(01-22-2019 06:12 PM)dsquare Wrote:  

(01-22-2019 03:07 PM)BearcatsUC Wrote:  

(01-16-2019 02:00 PM)Lush Wrote:  is he wrong? last four in seems about right for this squad

I concur. This is a bubble team right now. According to Sagarin, still one of the weakest schedules in the top 25 (surprised? NOT.) and no current record of elite victories.

Let’s hope UC beats UCF and Houston because the rest of the schedule isn’t going to get them there.

They need to split those games. If they could steal one on the road all the better. Obviously, you can't drop games to the Smu's of the world which changes the complexion of everything. Uconn on the road will not be a terrible loss if it were to happen. This isn't a real strong year for at large teams right now. Could change if some field horses go on big winning streaks, but everyone will likely take their share of losses. This predictor has them splitting the big road games, and still ending up 17 in rpi at 24 and 7.

http://realtimerpi.com/rpi_217_Men.html

RPI doesn’t matter. NET does. Actually who you beat matters more.

The "NET" ranks us exactly the same #32 as the base rpi:

https://www.ncaa.com/rankings/basketball...t-rankings

ok, but they are not the same thing. Temple is 25 in the RPI and 61 in the NET. How you win and lose matter in the NET.

(01-23-2019 06:52 AM)bearcatlawjd2 Wrote:  

(01-22-2019 11:02 PM)dsquare Wrote:  

(01-22-2019 07:55 PM)bearcatlawjd2 Wrote:  

(01-22-2019 06:12 PM)dsquare Wrote:  

(01-22-2019 03:07 PM)BearcatsUC Wrote:  I concur. This is a bubble team right now. According to Sagarin, still one of the weakest schedules in the top 25 (surprised? NOT.) and no current record of elite victories.

Let’s hope UC beats UCF and Houston because the rest of the schedule isn’t going to get them there.

They need to split those games. If they could steal one on the road all the better. Obviously, you can't drop games to the Smu's of the world which changes the complexion of everything. Uconn on the road will not be a terrible loss if it were to happen. This isn't a real strong year for at large teams right now. Could change if some field horses go on big winning streaks, but everyone will likely take their share of losses. This predictor has them splitting the big road games, and still ending up 17 in rpi at 24 and 7.

http://realtimerpi.com/rpi_217_Men.html

RPI doesn’t matter. NET does. Actually who you beat matters more.

The "NET" ranks us exactly the same #32 as the base rpi:

https://www.ncaa.com/rankings/basketball...t-rankings

ok, but they are not the same thing. Temple is 25 in the RPI and 61 in the NET. How you win and lose matter in the NET.

That's typically a good thing for us. We generally lose tight games, not blowouts. That being said, it's not a strong year for the at large field in any of these ratings.

(01-22-2019 03:07 PM)BearcatsUC Wrote:  

(01-16-2019 02:00 PM)Lush Wrote:  

(01-15-2019 04:18 PM)Bearcat2012 Wrote:  

(01-15-2019 03:58 PM)dsquare Wrote:  Two widely different perspectives of the Cats:

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketb...acketology

https://www.cbssports.com/college-basket...cketology/

Jerry Palm hates us every year.

is he wrong? last four in seems about right for this squad

I concur. This is a bubble team right now. According to Sagarin, still one of the weakest schedules in the top 25 (surprised? NOT.) and no current record of elite victories.

Let’s hope UC beats UCF and Houston because the rest of the schedule isn’t going to get them there.

+1 for bubble team. On the right side of the bubble for now, but could easily fall onto the wrong side.

(01-23-2019 10:43 AM)dsquare Wrote:  

(01-23-2019 06:52 AM)bearcatlawjd2 Wrote:  

(01-22-2019 11:02 PM)dsquare Wrote:  

(01-22-2019 07:55 PM)bearcatlawjd2 Wrote:  

(01-22-2019 06:12 PM)dsquare Wrote:  They need to split those games. If they could steal one on the road all the better. Obviously, you can't drop games to the Smu's of the world which changes the complexion of everything. Uconn on the road will not be a terrible loss if it were to happen. This isn't a real strong year for at large teams right now. Could change if some field horses go on big winning streaks, but everyone will likely take their share of losses. This predictor has them splitting the big road games, and still ending up 17 in rpi at 24 and 7.

http://realtimerpi.com/rpi_217_Men.html

RPI doesn’t matter. NET does. Actually who you beat matters more.

The "NET" ranks us exactly the same #32 as the base rpi:

https://www.ncaa.com/rankings/basketball...t-rankings

ok, but they are not the same thing. Temple is 25 in the RPI and 61 in the NET. How you win and lose matter in the NET.

That's typically a good thing for us. We generally lose tight games, not blowouts. That being said, it's not a strong year for the at large field in any of these ratings.

It makes sense, in the RPI teams could lose by 50 to a top team and move up.

(01-22-2019 11:24 PM)doss2 Wrote:  

(01-22-2019 07:13 PM)WalterSobchak Wrote:  

(01-22-2019 07:05 PM)doss2 Wrote:  I suspect we will get a home game in the NIT. Will you attend?

Will you?

I cancelled my center seats after years of Mickey, when he leaves I will return.

Lower level tickets are long gone my man. Enjoy the upper deck after you get back!

(01-23-2019 12:22 PM)Former Lurker Wrote:  

(01-22-2019 03:07 PM)BearcatsUC Wrote:  

(01-16-2019 02:00 PM)Lush Wrote:  

(01-15-2019 04:18 PM)Bearcat2012 Wrote:  

(01-15-2019 03:58 PM)dsquare Wrote:  Two widely different perspectives of the Cats:

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketb...acketology

https://www.cbssports.com/college-basket...cketology/

Jerry Palm hates us every year.

is he wrong? last four in seems about right for this squad

I concur. This is a bubble team right now. According to Sagarin, still one of the weakest schedules in the top 25 (surprised? NOT.) and no current record of elite victories.

Let’s hope UC beats UCF and Houston because the rest of the schedule isn’t going to get them there.

+1 for bubble team. On the right side of the bubble for now, but could easily fall onto the wrong side.

This is where I'm at. I expect in the end they are a team squarely on the bubble, probably/hopefully on the right side of the bubble. If we get in I'm expecting 9-11 range. I cant see us getting above a 9.