(12-26-2018 03:59 PM)ColKurtz Wrote:  Servpro bowl. Like it never even happened.

F1rst Responder Bowl

(12-26-2018 03:34 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(12-26-2018 03:31 PM)MWC Tex Wrote:  Wow.
Game cancelled. Will go as a no contest.

Sucks for the teams and fans.

Can't remember the last time a bowl game was canceled in play. Huge disappointment for players, fans, everybody like me watching on TV.

Guess there was just no end in sight to the bad weather.

That's because to my knowledge there never has been a cancellation, ever! I know how you feel Quo but you're about to hear how I feel about it.

College football has been played for over 130 years. I've never heard of a report of a fan or player being killed by weather in that entire 130 years and includes an Auburn / Miami game played in the squalls of an actual hurricane in the early 70's, tornadoes, lightening, hail, snow, and extreme heat.

The snowflake alarmist B.S. being foisted upon us is producing nothing but reactionism by the public.

The crap of not being able to play a game in Virginia or Arkansas because there are land-falling hurricanes in South/North Carolina and Miami was unheard of before all the wusses justified the move. Yes the families should evacuate, but the players are playing in a safe area. There's no excuse for not playing those games, unless of course if you are a reactionary.

To cancel a bowl game when fans, players, and personnel have given up their Christmas, bought plane tickets and made hotel reservations and to give them a big frigging NO CONTEST while they are actually there is incomprehensible. I doubt there were many who could not have stayed one extra day to get it in. They've at least lost their hotel money and their flight money if not their ticket money because of this totally unprecedented decision for a big damned thunderstorm!

The only thing I can possibly see as the motive behind this is for smaller bowls to be seen even more as toss away games. I doubt however there was that much thought put into this decision. Now that it has been done I can't imagine that there will be the same number of people from any school willing to put their family time and cash on the line for the possibility of a big stinking NO CONTEST hundreds of miles from home. I think the fans will start to give even a bigger F.elix U.nger with a middle finger to their athletic departments when these games are announced.

I don't know who had the responsibility for this but the repercussions are going to be significant!

And yeah, as an old guy I am sick and tired of witnessing the wussification of our nation! Delay the game? If we must. Move the game back a day? If we must. Cancel a game on 10's of thousands of traveling people? Hell no! What this means is that unless the game filled a particular slot in the TV lineup on a particular day, it had no value to the decision makers and screw the fans!

Just how bowls are no longer about fans but TV slots. Have to think this may impact the Dallas bowl when it comes to the new tie-ins that will be likely announced in the spring. Wasn't the bowl already losing support from the local gov't in Dallas?

JR,

That was possible years ago but in an era of everybody suing everybody, no school, conference, venue, sponsor and network will take the risk of having life threatening or fatal injuries on the players, staff and fans and get sued.

It’s been really bad here in Dallas the last few hours.

(12-26-2018 04:31 PM)msm96wolf Wrote:  Just how bowls are no longer about fans but TV slots. Have to think this may impact the Dallas bowl when it comes to the new tie-ins that will be likely announced in the spring. Wasn't the bowl already losing support from the local gov't in Dallas?

The city gave them an extension but it’s a matter of time before it moves or goes under.

That’s how it is here in Dallas. It could go from cold weather in the 20s like last year’s Utah vs West Virginia game to spring like severe weather like today. We were in the upper 60s yesterday and today.

(12-26-2018 04:42 PM)UTEPDallas Wrote:  JR,

That was possible years ago but in an era of everybody suing everybody, no school, conference, venue, sponsor and network will take the risk of having life threatening or fatal injuries on the players, staff and fans and get sued.

It’s been really bad here in Dallas the last few hours.

And that's what happens when your nation has the highest % of lawyers per capita of any nation, and corporations who are liability sensitive make all of the damned decisions! We are losing our way of life and our rights due to the potential threat of legal action.

I've got news for you, nobody gets out of life alive. I refuse to live and govern my life out of fear, and when that becomes the mindset of the majority of those in the military because it is a mindset that predominates society, then we are going to get our butts kicked and lose our way of life anyway. So I choose to live with the minimum risk that a drunk might kill me on the highways, that lightening may strike, that a tornado may hit, and that hurricanes will happen. That's the reality of our way of life and of nature.

The forecast for DFW tomorrow is sunshine! The fans in a free society should have the choice. I rest my case!

As a founding father once said, "Those who sacrifice freedom for protection deserve neither!"

(12-26-2018 03:59 PM)ColKurtz Wrote:  Servpro bowl. Like it never even happened.

(12-26-2018 04:14 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(12-26-2018 03:34 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(12-26-2018 03:31 PM)MWC Tex Wrote:  Wow.
Game cancelled. Will go as a no contest.

Sucks for the teams and fans.

Can't remember the last time a bowl game was canceled in play. Huge disappointment for players, fans, everybody like me watching on TV.

Guess there was just no end in sight to the bad weather.

That's because to my knowledge there never has been a cancellation, ever! I know how you feel Quo but you're about to hear how I feel about it.

College football has been played for over 130 years. I've never heard of a report of a fan or player being killed by weather in that entire 130 years and includes an Auburn / Miami game played in the squalls of an actual hurricane in the early 70's, tornadoes, lightening, hail, snow, and extreme heat.

The snowflake alarmist B.S. being foisted upon us is producing nothing but reactionism by the public.

The crap of not being able to play a game in Virginia or Arkansas because there are land-falling hurricanes in South/North Carolina and Miami was unheard of before all the wusses justified the move. Yes the families should evacuate, but the players are playing in a safe area. There's no excuse for not playing those games, unless of course if you are a reactionary.

To cancel a bowl game when fans, players, and personnel have given up their Christmas, bought plane tickets and made hotel reservations and to give them a big frigging NO CONTEST while they are actually there is incomprehensible. I doubt there were many who could not have stayed one extra day to get it in. They've at least lost their hotel money and their flight money if not their ticket money because of this totally unprecedented decision for a big damned thunderstorm!

The only thing I can possibly see as the motive behind this is for smaller bowls to be seen even more as toss away games. I doubt however there was that much thought put into this decision. Now that it has been done I can't imagine that there will be the same number of people from any school willing to put their family time and cash on the line for the possibility of a big stinking NO CONTEST hundreds of miles from home. I think the fans will start to give even a bigger F.elix U.nger with a middle finger to their athletic departments when these games are announced.

I don't know who had the responsibility for this but the repercussions are going to be significant!

And yeah, as an old guy I am sick and tired of witnessing the wussification of our nation! Delay the game? If we must. Move the game back a day? If we must. Cancel a game on 10's of thousands of traveling people? Hell no! What this means is that unless the game filled a particular slot in the TV lineup on a particular day, it had no value to the decision makers and screw the fans!

Declan Sullivan's family would like a word with you.

It is a FREAKING Football GAME. Why should anyone risk life or limb just to play a damn meaningless game?

I am sick and tired of "old guys" proclaiming how tough they are, and everything they don't agree with on Wussification whatever the heck that means. Blame this on capitalism, pure and simple. ESPN can't be bothered to alter their broadcast schedule.

(12-26-2018 04:52 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(12-26-2018 04:42 PM)UTEPDallas Wrote:  JR,

That was possible years ago but in an era of everybody suing everybody, no school, conference, venue, sponsor and network will take the risk of having life threatening or fatal injuries on the players, staff and fans and get sued.

It’s been really bad here in Dallas the last few hours.

And that's what happens when your nation has the highest % of lawyers per capita of any nation, and corporations who are liability sensitive make all of the damned decisions! We are losing our way of life and our rights due to the potential threat of legal action.

I've got news for you, nobody gets out of life alive. I refuse to live and govern my life out of fear, and when that becomes the mindset of the majority of those in the military because it is a mindset that predominates society, then we are going to get our butts kicked and lose our way of life anyway. So I choose to live with the minimum risk that a drunk might kill me on the highways, that lightening may strike, that a tornado may hit, and that hurricanes will happen. That's the reality of our way of life and of nature.

The forecast for DFW tomorrow is sunshine! The fans in a free society should have the choice. I rest my case!

As a founding father once said, "Those who sacrifice freedom for protection deserve neither!"

What way of life are we losing? What rights are we losing because a bowl game isn't being played?

ESPN owns the bowl College Football sold off it's rights to have a say in the matter. If it had been a playoff game, you bet it would have been played tomorrow. But of the fans that bought tickets, how many had tickets to fly back tomorrow?

Always thought it was interesting how football doesn't have a formal weather provision for cancellations like baseball. This game was toward the front so it doesn't matter, but if the thunder didn't start until well into the 2nd half you wish they'd count it.

they probably couldn't do it tomorrow due to the fact that you have hotel rooms etc. that were going to be gone after tonight(if the teams weren't flying home directly after the game)….

did see this fantastic tweet....
When God thinks there are too many bowl games...

(12-26-2018 03:32 PM)Yosef Himself Wrote:  I'd be uber pissed if I flew out from Idaho or Boston to see this game. I'd have rather my team lose than get canceled.

Don't worry nobody from Boston flew out

Bet the 8 to 10k people who flew out from Boise are pissed. This could hurt that bowl and others because this now establishes cancellation as a viable conclusion.


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(12-26-2018 04:58 PM)dbackjon Wrote:  

(12-26-2018 04:14 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(12-26-2018 03:34 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(12-26-2018 03:31 PM)MWC Tex Wrote:  Wow.
Game cancelled. Will go as a no contest.

Sucks for the teams and fans.

Can't remember the last time a bowl game was canceled in play. Huge disappointment for players, fans, everybody like me watching on TV.

Guess there was just no end in sight to the bad weather.

That's because to my knowledge there never has been a cancellation, ever! I know how you feel Quo but you're about to hear how I feel about it.

College football has been played for over 130 years. I've never heard of a report of a fan or player being killed by weather in that entire 130 years and includes an Auburn / Miami game played in the squalls of an actual hurricane in the early 70's, tornadoes, lightening, hail, snow, and extreme heat.

The snowflake alarmist B.S. being foisted upon us is producing nothing but reactionism by the public.

The crap of not being able to play a game in Virginia or Arkansas because there are land-falling hurricanes in South/North Carolina and Miami was unheard of before all the wusses justified the move. Yes the families should evacuate, but the players are playing in a safe area. There's no excuse for not playing those games, unless of course if you are a reactionary.

To cancel a bowl game when fans, players, and personnel have given up their Christmas, bought plane tickets and made hotel reservations and to give them a big frigging NO CONTEST while they are actually there is incomprehensible. I doubt there were many who could not have stayed one extra day to get it in. They've at least lost their hotel money and their flight money if not their ticket money because of this totally unprecedented decision for a big damned thunderstorm!

The only thing I can possibly see as the motive behind this is for smaller bowls to be seen even more as toss away games. I doubt however there was that much thought put into this decision. Now that it has been done I can't imagine that there will be the same number of people from any school willing to put their family time and cash on the line for the possibility of a big stinking NO CONTEST hundreds of miles from home. I think the fans will start to give even a bigger F.elix U.nger with a middle finger to their athletic departments when these games are announced.

I don't know who had the responsibility for this but the repercussions are going to be significant!

And yeah, as an old guy I am sick and tired of witnessing the wussification of our nation! Delay the game? If we must. Move the game back a day? If we must. Cancel a game on 10's of thousands of traveling people? Hell no! What this means is that unless the game filled a particular slot in the TV lineup on a particular day, it had no value to the decision makers and screw the fans!

Declan Sullivan's family would like a word with you.

It is a FREAKING Football GAME. Why should anyone risk life or limb just to play a damn meaningless game?

I am sick and tired of "old guys" proclaiming how tough they are, and everything they don't agree with on Wussification whatever the heck that means. Blame this on capitalism, pure and simple. ESPN can't be bothered to alter their broadcast schedule.

It isn't an issue of capitalism, so why try to make it one? I do believe it is legally driven, but it's still disgusting.

Boston College will be refunding people who bought tickets through BC. Also will receive tix to a game of their choice for free

The real take away from this cancellation is how unimportant this game was. It only existed to fill a time slot. Weather said not happening, so everybody goes home. There is no real value beyond that ESPN time slot, which has passed.

Easily half the bowl games fall into this category.

(12-26-2018 07:22 PM)Stugray2 Wrote:  The real take away from this cancellation is how unimportant this game was. It only existed to fill a time slot. Weather said not happening, so everybody goes home. There is no real value beyond that ESPN time slot, which has passed.

Easily half the bowl games fall into this category.

That's pretty much it. I just think the fans who did travel were hosed and that isn't going to help the attendance in the future for games of this ilk.

Cancelling this bowl is a lowlight for CFB.

1) All the fans who traveled from the NW or the NE and shelled out THOUSANDS of bucks in vain.

2) All the players who retroactively played “their final collegiate game” without even knowing it - that final game is symbolically HUGE for any competitor.

This is wrong. It’ll go down in CFB canon but it’s rotten what happened to the 2 above parties.

(12-26-2018 07:22 PM)Stugray2 Wrote:  The real take away from this cancellation is how unimportant this game was. It only existed to fill a time slot. Weather said not happening, so everybody goes home. There is no real value beyond that ESPN time slot, which has passed.

Easily half the bowl games fall into this category.

This.

Also, I hope BC/ACC and Boise/MWC get paid. I presume they will be paid something, especially with ESPN as owner of the bowl.

(12-26-2018 08:06 PM)johnintx Wrote:  

(12-26-2018 07:22 PM)Stugray2 Wrote:  The real take away from this cancellation is how unimportant this game was. It only existed to fill a time slot. Weather said not happening, so everybody goes home. There is no real value beyond that ESPN time slot, which has passed.

Easily half the bowl games fall into this category.

This.

Also, I hope BC/ACC and Boise/MWC get paid. I presume they will be paid something, especially with ESPN as owner of the bowl.

Surely! If not the decision is way out of bounds. I can't see either school's officials agreeing to the cancellation without getting paid.