(01-06-2019 09:23 PM)Foreverandever Wrote:  

(01-05-2019 01:53 PM)thespywhozaggedme Wrote:  

(01-05-2019 09:41 AM)Foreverandever Wrote:  

(01-05-2019 02:01 AM)thespywhozaggedme Wrote:  

(01-04-2019 09:39 PM)KnightAACFan Wrote:  I haven't read all the responses, but this is easy - Academics. BSU CC is easy.

Yet we probably have more recruits with Ivy League offers than the AAC does combined. Go figure

You're hilarious fanhood....I'm sure those academic pillars Boise, UNLV, and the California State system are just pulling those Ivy league kids.

You can stop anytime you want to, right? This AAC obsession doesn't have control over your life, it's just fun right?

It's over, the new tv deal, the ny6s, the recruits, NFL players, coaches, salaries, facilities, the mwc is far behind and it won't be catching up. Boise might occasionally put up a good team but even they are struggling and aren't competing with the top of the AAC.

Go home fanhood, the midget weasel conference is the sunbelt with elevation.

8 just this year:

https://247sports.com/college/boise-stat.../Commits/

Hank Bachmeier (Princeton, Yale)

Casey Kline (Yale)

Kyheem Waleed (Yale)

Markel Reed (Cornell)

Dylan Hall (Yale)

Isaiah Bagnah (Yale)

Michael Callahan (Brown, Columbia, Cornell, Dartmouth, Harvard, Penn, Princeton, Yale)

Jacob Golden (Brown, Harvard)

No fake denial? The truth will set you free.

8, for 12 teams, (8/1000) according to a recruiting site, not eight who were accepted and capable of being admitted, 8 who were recruited and may have made the cut.

I'm inclined to think that any kid who'd turn down an offer to attend Princeton or Yale or any other Ivy League school to play football at academic powerhouse Boise State probably has questionable priorities. Yeah, playing ball and excelling on the field at a third-tier school might draw some attention from an NFL scout or two, but the odds are much greater that such folks will end up driving cabs in Las Vegas or, heaven forbid, in Boise. An Ivy League diploma, on the other hand, opens a lot of doors and is good for a lifetime.

(01-11-2019 02:24 PM)Knights_of_UCF Wrote:  

(01-11-2019 01:46 PM)rebar619 Wrote:  

(12-20-2018 12:06 AM)Foreverandever Wrote:  

(12-20-2018 12:03 AM)thespywhozaggedme Wrote:  

(12-20-2018 12:01 AM)M1T4 Wrote:  Does it really matter if Boise keeps getting shutout of New Years Bowl?

That's a coaching fail, but certainly not a recruiting one.

Thats nice. Can you explain why SDSU just got beat down by a mac team? I guess swinging from Boise's balls is better than crying in your beer eh fanhood?

Not that it is relative to the conversation at hand, but to answer your question SDSU got thumped because they were at terrible team the second half of the season. Players that should have been counted on turned out to have issues and were suspended. The coaching staff inexplicably rotated two QBs instead of sticking to one. It was a dumpster fire.
I am confident that SDSU will be back to good football next season.
Now, go back to the Boise bashing.

sounds like usf lol

USFFan

(01-05-2019 01:53 PM)thespywhozaggedme Wrote:  

(01-05-2019 09:41 AM)Foreverandever Wrote:  

(01-05-2019 02:01 AM)thespywhozaggedme Wrote:  

(01-04-2019 09:39 PM)KnightAACFan Wrote:  

(12-19-2018 11:54 PM)thespywhozaggedme Wrote:  I believe that the AAC is the overall better conference than the MWC, but that doesn't reflect in recruiting and I wonder why. Boise signed three 4 star players, Hank Bachmeier, the highest rated qb to ever sign with a G5, I believe, Casey Kline and Austin Griffin, despite what many Boise fans consider tov be a disappointing season. The entire AAC signed 0, yes 0 4 stars despite having some very dynamic teams. Can anyone explain why? Thanks

https://247sports.com/college/boise-stat...l/Commits/

https://247sports.com/Season/2019-Footba...erence=AAC

I haven't read all the responses, but this is easy - Academics. BSU CC is easy.

Yet we probably have more recruits with Ivy League offers than the AAC does combined. Go figure

You're hilarious fanhood....I'm sure those academic pillars Boise, UNLV, and the California State system are just pulling those Ivy league kids.

You can stop anytime you want to, right? This AAC obsession doesn't have control over your life, it's just fun right?

It's over, the new tv deal, the ny6s, the recruits, NFL players, coaches, salaries, facilities, the mwc is far behind and it won't be catching up. Boise might occasionally put up a good team but even they are struggling and aren't competing with the top of the AAC.

Go home fanhood, the midget weasel conference is the sunbelt with elevation.

8 just this year:

https://247sports.com/college/boise-stat.../Commits/

Hank Bachmeier (Princeton, Yale)

Casey Kline (Yale)

Kyheem Waleed (Yale)

Markel Reed (Cornell)

Dylan Hall (Yale)

Isaiah Bagnah (Yale)

Michael Callahan (Brown, Columbia, Cornell, Dartmouth, Harvard, Penn, Princeton, Yale)

Jacob Golden (Brown, Harvard)

This is humorous for several reasons.

First - the "link" is broken, making it impossible to actually verify what you've written.

Second - what exactly does it mean to have an Ivy League offer? The Ivy League doesn't offer athletic scholarships! Athletes are only eligible for financial aid like other students.

Third - Ivy League schools have only offered admissions for 2019 to people who applied via early decision, making it literally impossible for somebody to have an offer from more than one of those schools (since you can only apply to one school via early decision). Most regular admission decisions don't go out until March.

USFFan

(01-11-2019 04:00 PM)usffan Wrote:  

(01-05-2019 01:53 PM)thespywhozaggedme Wrote:  

(01-05-2019 09:41 AM)Foreverandever Wrote:  

(01-05-2019 02:01 AM)thespywhozaggedme Wrote:  

(01-04-2019 09:39 PM)KnightAACFan Wrote:  I haven't read all the responses, but this is easy - Academics. BSU CC is easy.

Yet we probably have more recruits with Ivy League offers than the AAC does combined. Go figure

You're hilarious fanhood....I'm sure those academic pillars Boise, UNLV, and the California State system are just pulling those Ivy league kids.

You can stop anytime you want to, right? This AAC obsession doesn't have control over your life, it's just fun right?

It's over, the new tv deal, the ny6s, the recruits, NFL players, coaches, salaries, facilities, the mwc is far behind and it won't be catching up. Boise might occasionally put up a good team but even they are struggling and aren't competing with the top of the AAC.

Go home fanhood, the midget weasel conference is the sunbelt with elevation.

8 just this year:

https://247sports.com/college/boise-stat.../Commits/

Hank Bachmeier (Princeton, Yale)

Casey Kline (Yale)

Kyheem Waleed (Yale)

Markel Reed (Cornell)

Dylan Hall (Yale)

Isaiah Bagnah (Yale)

Michael Callahan (Brown, Columbia, Cornell, Dartmouth, Harvard, Penn, Princeton, Yale)

Jacob Golden (Brown, Harvard)

This is humorous for several reasons.

First - the "link" is broken, making it impossible to actually verify what you've written.

Second - what exactly does it mean to have an Ivy League offer? The Ivy League doesn't offer athletic scholarships! Athletes are only eligible for financial aid like other students.

Third - Ivy League schools have only offered admissions for 2019 to people who applied via early decision, making it literally impossible for somebody to have an offer from more than one of those schools (since you can only apply to one school via early decision). Most regular admission decisions don't go out until March.

USFFan

ROASTED

watch in this thread as a sad mwc fan gets completely obliterated by facts and truth

(01-11-2019 03:38 PM)colohank Wrote:  

(01-06-2019 09:23 PM)Foreverandever Wrote:  

(01-05-2019 01:53 PM)thespywhozaggedme Wrote:  

(01-05-2019 09:41 AM)Foreverandever Wrote:  

(01-05-2019 02:01 AM)thespywhozaggedme Wrote:  Yet we probably have more recruits with Ivy League offers than the AAC does combined. Go figure

You're hilarious fanhood....I'm sure those academic pillars Boise, UNLV, and the California State system are just pulling those Ivy league kids.

You can stop anytime you want to, right? This AAC obsession doesn't have control over your life, it's just fun right?

It's over, the new tv deal, the ny6s, the recruits, NFL players, coaches, salaries, facilities, the mwc is far behind and it won't be catching up. Boise might occasionally put up a good team but even they are struggling and aren't competing with the top of the AAC.

Go home fanhood, the midget weasel conference is the sunbelt with elevation.

8 just this year:

https://247sports.com/college/boise-stat.../Commits/

Hank Bachmeier (Princeton, Yale)

Casey Kline (Yale)

Kyheem Waleed (Yale)

Markel Reed (Cornell)

Dylan Hall (Yale)

Isaiah Bagnah (Yale)

Michael Callahan (Brown, Columbia, Cornell, Dartmouth, Harvard, Penn, Princeton, Yale)

Jacob Golden (Brown, Harvard)

No fake denial? The truth will set you free.

8, for 12 teams, (8/1000) according to a recruiting site, not eight who were accepted and capable of being admitted, 8 who were recruited and may have made the cut.

I'm inclined to think that any kid who'd turn down an offer to attend Princeton or Yale or any other Ivy League school to play football at academic powerhouse Boise State probably has questionable priorities. Yeah, playing ball and excelling on the field at a third-tier school might draw some attention from an NFL scout or two, but the odds are much greater that such folks will end up driving cabs in Las Vegas or, heaven forbid, in Boise. An Ivy League diploma, on the other hand, opens a lot of doors and is good for a lifetime.

Most folks would NEVER turn down an Ivy League scholarship to play football at a glorified community college.

NEVER

To turn down the Ivy league offer to play football, you would have to be amazing and banking on the NFL, and if that is the case, you are going to USC or Washington, etc. or some other power school out west. Otherwise, what's the point? An Ivy league degree is worth a LOT.

Doesn't Boise State offer a trucker college? Might be huge for recruiting. Toot toot

(01-12-2019 11:50 PM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  Doesn't Boise State offer a trucker college? Might be huge for recruiting. Toot toot

Gotta do what you can. Alas there is no trucking college. CWI hosts all the vocational stuff. How do they do things at the nations biggest commuter school?

(01-11-2019 04:01 PM)Knights_of_UCF Wrote:  

(01-11-2019 04:00 PM)usffan Wrote:  

(01-05-2019 01:53 PM)thespywhozaggedme Wrote:  

(01-05-2019 09:41 AM)Foreverandever Wrote:  

(01-05-2019 02:01 AM)thespywhozaggedme Wrote:  Yet we probably have more recruits with Ivy League offers than the AAC does combined. Go figure

You're hilarious fanhood....I'm sure those academic pillars Boise, UNLV, and the California State system are just pulling those Ivy league kids.

You can stop anytime you want to, right? This AAC obsession doesn't have control over your life, it's just fun right?

It's over, the new tv deal, the ny6s, the recruits, NFL players, coaches, salaries, facilities, the mwc is far behind and it won't be catching up. Boise might occasionally put up a good team but even they are struggling and aren't competing with the top of the AAC.

Go home fanhood, the midget weasel conference is the sunbelt with elevation.

8 just this year:

https://247sports.com/college/boise-stat.../Commits/

Hank Bachmeier (Princeton, Yale)

Casey Kline (Yale)

Kyheem Waleed (Yale)

Markel Reed (Cornell)

Dylan Hall (Yale)

Isaiah Bagnah (Yale)

Michael Callahan (Brown, Columbia, Cornell, Dartmouth, Harvard, Penn, Princeton, Yale)

Jacob Golden (Brown, Harvard)

This is humorous for several reasons.

First - the "link" is broken, making it impossible to actually verify what you've written.

Second - what exactly does it mean to have an Ivy League offer? The Ivy League doesn't offer athletic scholarships! Athletes are only eligible for financial aid like other students.

Third - Ivy League schools have only offered admissions for 2019 to people who applied via early decision, making it literally impossible for somebody to have an offer from more than one of those schools (since you can only apply to one school via early decision). Most regular admission decisions don't go out until March.

USFFan

ROASTED

watch in this thread as a sad mwc fan gets completely obliterated by facts and truth

Just curious; do you think I randomly made up Ivy League offers for specific players, or simply copied and pasted the offers? I'm just trying to figure out how your thought process works? Someone mocked Boise's academics and I merely pointed out that we had 8 players just this year that received Ivy League offers. One of your own recruits, Ryan O'Keefe was offered by Princeton:
https://247sports.com/Recruitment/Ryan-O...Interests/

Am I making that up too? C'mon man.

(01-13-2019 05:02 PM)thespywhozaggedme Wrote:  

(01-11-2019 04:01 PM)Knights_of_UCF Wrote:  

(01-11-2019 04:00 PM)usffan Wrote:  

(01-05-2019 01:53 PM)thespywhozaggedme Wrote:  

(01-05-2019 09:41 AM)Foreverandever Wrote:  You're hilarious fanhood....I'm sure those academic pillars Boise, UNLV, and the California State system are just pulling those Ivy league kids.

You can stop anytime you want to, right? This AAC obsession doesn't have control over your life, it's just fun right?

It's over, the new tv deal, the ny6s, the recruits, NFL players, coaches, salaries, facilities, the mwc is far behind and it won't be catching up. Boise might occasionally put up a good team but even they are struggling and aren't competing with the top of the AAC.

Go home fanhood, the midget weasel conference is the sunbelt with elevation.

8 just this year:

https://247sports.com/college/boise-stat.../Commits/

Hank Bachmeier (Princeton, Yale)

Casey Kline (Yale)

Kyheem Waleed (Yale)

Markel Reed (Cornell)

Dylan Hall (Yale)

Isaiah Bagnah (Yale)

Michael Callahan (Brown, Columbia, Cornell, Dartmouth, Harvard, Penn, Princeton, Yale)

Jacob Golden (Brown, Harvard)

This is humorous for several reasons.

First - the "link" is broken, making it impossible to actually verify what you've written.

Second - what exactly does it mean to have an Ivy League offer? The Ivy League doesn't offer athletic scholarships! Athletes are only eligible for financial aid like other students.

Third - Ivy League schools have only offered admissions for 2019 to people who applied via early decision, making it literally impossible for somebody to have an offer from more than one of those schools (since you can only apply to one school via early decision). Most regular admission decisions don't go out until March.

USFFan

ROASTED

watch in this thread as a sad mwc fan gets completely obliterated by facts and truth

Just curious; do you think I randomly made up Ivy League offers for specific players, or simply copied and pasted the offers? I'm just trying to figure out how your thought process works? Someone mocked Boise's academics and I merely pointed out that we had 8 players just this year that received Ivy League offers. One of your own recruits, Ryan O'Keefe was offered by Princeton:
https://247sports.com/Recruitment/Ryan-O...Interests/

Am I making that up too? C'mon man.

You do realize that the "offers" listed on all of those sites are almost always self-reported by the recruits, right? As mentioned before, Ivy League schools are not allowed to offer athletic scholarships. Therefore, I ask again, what exactly is an Ivy League offer? An offer to let you come play for the team if you can get admitted to the school? I'm pretty sure that's a standing offer to just about any player who's capable of warranting a D1 scholarship.

USFFan

(01-13-2019 08:29 PM)usffan Wrote:  

(01-13-2019 05:02 PM)thespywhozaggedme Wrote:  

(01-11-2019 04:01 PM)Knights_of_UCF Wrote:  

(01-11-2019 04:00 PM)usffan Wrote:  

(01-05-2019 01:53 PM)thespywhozaggedme Wrote:  8 just this year:

https://247sports.com/college/boise-stat.../Commits/

Hank Bachmeier (Princeton, Yale)

Casey Kline (Yale)

Kyheem Waleed (Yale)

Markel Reed (Cornell)

Dylan Hall (Yale)

Isaiah Bagnah (Yale)

Michael Callahan (Brown, Columbia, Cornell, Dartmouth, Harvard, Penn, Princeton, Yale)

Jacob Golden (Brown, Harvard)

This is humorous for several reasons.

First - the "link" is broken, making it impossible to actually verify what you've written.

Second - what exactly does it mean to have an Ivy League offer? The Ivy League doesn't offer athletic scholarships! Athletes are only eligible for financial aid like other students.

Third - Ivy League schools have only offered admissions for 2019 to people who applied via early decision, making it literally impossible for somebody to have an offer from more than one of those schools (since you can only apply to one school via early decision). Most regular admission decisions don't go out until March.

USFFan

ROASTED

watch in this thread as a sad mwc fan gets completely obliterated by facts and truth

Just curious; do you think I randomly made up Ivy League offers for specific players, or simply copied and pasted the offers? I'm just trying to figure out how your thought process works? Someone mocked Boise's academics and I merely pointed out that we had 8 players just this year that received Ivy League offers. One of your own recruits, Ryan O'Keefe was offered by Princeton:
https://247sports.com/Recruitment/Ryan-O...Interests/

Am I making that up too? C'mon man.

You do realize that the "offers" listed on all of those sites are almost always self-reported by the recruits, right? As mentioned before, Ivy League schools are not allowed to offer athletic scholarships. Therefore, I ask again, what exactly is an Ivy League offer? An offer to let you come play for the team if you can get admitted to the school? I'm pretty sure that's a standing offer to just about any player who's capable of warranting a D1 scholarship.

USFFan

Dude, are you being intentionally obtuse? 247 is far and away the most reputable recruiting service, they rank and rate the top 500 or so players across the nation in hoops and football. When you click on a player you see the schools that have been in contact with them and it even goes further by showing which schools have offered and which haven't, as exhibited by the example I gave of the UCF commit that got an offer from Princeton. You are not only accusing the kids of lying, but 247 of being complicit with said lie, which is a pretty substantia accusation. You are correct in one sense, the Ivy League doesn't technically give out full athletic schollies, but they give extremely aggressive financial aid packages to kids that play football and hoops there. Harvard was actually # 25 in recruiting in mens hoops in 2016, despite technically not giving out full athletic schollies.

https://harvard.247sports.com/Season/201...l/Commits/

Instead of trying to be so argumentative, maybe listen and you'll learn.

(01-13-2019 09:21 PM)thespywhozaggedme Wrote:  

(01-13-2019 08:29 PM)usffan Wrote:  

(01-13-2019 05:02 PM)thespywhozaggedme Wrote:  

(01-11-2019 04:01 PM)Knights_of_UCF Wrote:  

(01-11-2019 04:00 PM)usffan Wrote:  This is humorous for several reasons.

First - the "link" is broken, making it impossible to actually verify what you've written.

Second - what exactly does it mean to have an Ivy League offer? The Ivy League doesn't offer athletic scholarships! Athletes are only eligible for financial aid like other students.

Third - Ivy League schools have only offered admissions for 2019 to people who applied via early decision, making it literally impossible for somebody to have an offer from more than one of those schools (since you can only apply to one school via early decision). Most regular admission decisions don't go out until March.

USFFan

ROASTED

watch in this thread as a sad mwc fan gets completely obliterated by facts and truth

Just curious; do you think I randomly made up Ivy League offers for specific players, or simply copied and pasted the offers? I'm just trying to figure out how your thought process works? Someone mocked Boise's academics and I merely pointed out that we had 8 players just this year that received Ivy League offers. One of your own recruits, Ryan O'Keefe was offered by Princeton:
https://247sports.com/Recruitment/Ryan-O...Interests/

Am I making that up too? C'mon man.

You do realize that the "offers" listed on all of those sites are almost always self-reported by the recruits, right? As mentioned before, Ivy League schools are not allowed to offer athletic scholarships. Therefore, I ask again, what exactly is an Ivy League offer? An offer to let you come play for the team if you can get admitted to the school? I'm pretty sure that's a standing offer to just about any player who's capable of warranting a D1 scholarship.

USFFan

Dude, are you being intentionally obtuse? 247 is far and away the most reputable recruiting service, they rank and rate the top 500 or so players across the nation in hoops and football. When you click on a player you see the schools that have been in contact with them and it even goes further by showing which schools have offered and which haven't, as exhibited by the example I gave of the UCF commit that got an offer from Princeton. You are not only accusing the kids of lying, but 247 of being complicit with said lie, which is a pretty substantia accusation. You are correct in one sense, the Ivy League doesn't technically give out full athletic schollies, but they give extremely aggressive financial aid packages to kids that play football and hoops there. Harvard was actually # 25 in recruiting in mens hoops in 2016, despite technically not giving out full athletic schollies.

https://harvard.247sports.com/Season/201...l/Commits/

Instead of trying to be so argumentative, maybe listen and you'll learn.

Or the recruiting service could just be wrong.

That's never happened before has it? Where a recruiting service said one thing and something else happened. I mean right?

As opposed to the actual rules that colleges set up for applicants and acceptance. Nobody would take those over such an all knowing always correct web subscription service.

And them being the most reputable is your opinion, not a fact. It's also irrelevant, it's like saying well those three guys can't swim but that guy stayed above water the longest. All three still can't swim.

lol why are boise people over on our board bragging about recruits???????????// who gives a rats

Maybe if Im up one night at 2am, i may watch these amazing players beat Wyoming.

(01-13-2019 09:35 PM)Foreverandever Wrote:  

(01-13-2019 09:21 PM)thespywhozaggedme Wrote:  

(01-13-2019 08:29 PM)usffan Wrote:  

(01-13-2019 05:02 PM)thespywhozaggedme Wrote:  

(01-11-2019 04:01 PM)Knights_of_UCF Wrote:  ROASTED

watch in this thread as a sad mwc fan gets completely obliterated by facts and truth

Just curious; do you think I randomly made up Ivy League offers for specific players, or simply copied and pasted the offers? I'm just trying to figure out how your thought process works? Someone mocked Boise's academics and I merely pointed out that we had 8 players just this year that received Ivy League offers. One of your own recruits, Ryan O'Keefe was offered by Princeton:
https://247sports.com/Recruitment/Ryan-O...Interests/

Am I making that up too? C'mon man.

You do realize that the "offers" listed on all of those sites are almost always self-reported by the recruits, right? As mentioned before, Ivy League schools are not allowed to offer athletic scholarships. Therefore, I ask again, what exactly is an Ivy League offer? An offer to let you come play for the team if you can get admitted to the school? I'm pretty sure that's a standing offer to just about any player who's capable of warranting a D1 scholarship.

USFFan

Dude, are you being intentionally obtuse? 247 is far and away the most reputable recruiting service, they rank and rate the top 500 or so players across the nation in hoops and football. When you click on a player you see the schools that have been in contact with them and it even goes further by showing which schools have offered and which haven't, as exhibited by the example I gave of the UCF commit that got an offer from Princeton. You are not only accusing the kids of lying, but 247 of being complicit with said lie, which is a pretty substantia accusation. You are correct in one sense, the Ivy League doesn't technically give out full athletic schollies, but they give extremely aggressive financial aid packages to kids that play football and hoops there. Harvard was actually # 25 in recruiting in mens hoops in 2016, despite technically not giving out full athletic schollies.

https://harvard.247sports.com/Season/201...l/Commits/

Instead of trying to be so argumentative, maybe listen and you'll learn.

Or the recruiting service could just be wrong.

That's never happened before has it? Where a recruiting service said one thing and something else happened. I mean right?

As opposed to the actual rules that colleges set up for applicants and acceptance. Nobody would take those over such an all knowing always correct web subscription service.

And them being the most reputable is your opinion, not a fact. It's also irrelevant, it's like saying well those three guys can't swim but that guy stayed above water the longest. All three still can't swim.

Just to be clear, which players are you specifically talking about, and which offers? Are you saying that UCF commit Ryan O'Keefe wasn't offered by Princeton? On what grounds are you making that accusation?

(01-13-2019 09:21 PM)thespywhozaggedme Wrote:  

(01-13-2019 08:29 PM)usffan Wrote:  

(01-13-2019 05:02 PM)thespywhozaggedme Wrote:  

(01-11-2019 04:01 PM)Knights_of_UCF Wrote:  

(01-11-2019 04:00 PM)usffan Wrote:  This is humorous for several reasons.

First - the "link" is broken, making it impossible to actually verify what you've written.

Second - what exactly does it mean to have an Ivy League offer? The Ivy League doesn't offer athletic scholarships! Athletes are only eligible for financial aid like other students.

Third - Ivy League schools have only offered admissions for 2019 to people who applied via early decision, making it literally impossible for somebody to have an offer from more than one of those schools (since you can only apply to one school via early decision). Most regular admission decisions don't go out until March.

USFFan

ROASTED

watch in this thread as a sad mwc fan gets completely obliterated by facts and truth

Just curious; do you think I randomly made up Ivy League offers for specific players, or simply copied and pasted the offers? I'm just trying to figure out how your thought process works? Someone mocked Boise's academics and I merely pointed out that we had 8 players just this year that received Ivy League offers. One of your own recruits, Ryan O'Keefe was offered by Princeton:
https://247sports.com/Recruitment/Ryan-O...Interests/

Am I making that up too? C'mon man.

You do realize that the "offers" listed on all of those sites are almost always self-reported by the recruits, right? As mentioned before, Ivy League schools are not allowed to offer athletic scholarships. Therefore, I ask again, what exactly is an Ivy League offer? An offer to let you come play for the team if you can get admitted to the school? I'm pretty sure that's a standing offer to just about any player who's capable of warranting a D1 scholarship.

USFFan

Dude, are you being intentionally obtuse? 247 is far and away the most reputable recruiting service, they rank and rate the top 500 or so players across the nation in hoops and football. When you click on a player you see the schools that have been in contact with them and it even goes further by showing which schools have offered and which haven't, as exhibited by the example I gave of the UCF commit that got an offer from Princeton. You are not only accusing the kids of lying, but 247 of being complicit with said lie, which is a pretty substantia accusation. You are correct in one sense, the Ivy League doesn't technically give out full athletic schollies, but they give extremely aggressive financial aid packages to kids that play football and hoops there. Harvard was actually # 25 in recruiting in mens hoops in 2016, despite technically not giving out full athletic schollies.

https://harvard.247sports.com/Season/201...l/Commits/

Instead of trying to be so argumentative, maybe listen and you'll learn.

I'll do you one better, I'll straight up say that I know these recruiting sites (which are for-profit companies) fabricate information in order to drive business and sell subscriptions. I know people who've worked for them. And it's fairly well documented that they modify their ratings based on the size of the fanbase subscriber size.

And for the third time, since an Ivy League school is not allowed to offer an athletic scholarship, there is no such thing as an Ivy League offer. You can spin it any way you want, but it's a fact.

Now, if you want to talk academic rankings, you can use the US News and World Reports rankings, where you'll find that Boise State is in the lowest rung of National Universities. If you honestly believe that a person capable of getting into all 8 Ivy League schools would turn down that opportunity to take a free ride to Boise State (or USF, or pretty much any school in either the MWC or the AAC - potential exceptions for Navy or Air Force) to play football, then I've got some land I'd be happy to sell you here in Florida.

USFFan

(01-13-2019 09:47 PM)thespywhozaggedme Wrote:  

(01-13-2019 09:35 PM)Foreverandever Wrote:  

(01-13-2019 09:21 PM)thespywhozaggedme Wrote:  

(01-13-2019 08:29 PM)usffan Wrote:  

(01-13-2019 05:02 PM)thespywhozaggedme Wrote:  Just curious; do you think I randomly made up Ivy League offers for specific players, or simply copied and pasted the offers? I'm just trying to figure out how your thought process works? Someone mocked Boise's academics and I merely pointed out that we had 8 players just this year that received Ivy League offers. One of your own recruits, Ryan O'Keefe was offered by Princeton:
https://247sports.com/Recruitment/Ryan-O...Interests/

Am I making that up too? C'mon man.

You do realize that the "offers" listed on all of those sites are almost always self-reported by the recruits, right? As mentioned before, Ivy League schools are not allowed to offer athletic scholarships. Therefore, I ask again, what exactly is an Ivy League offer? An offer to let you come play for the team if you can get admitted to the school? I'm pretty sure that's a standing offer to just about any player who's capable of warranting a D1 scholarship.

USFFan

Dude, are you being intentionally obtuse? 247 is far and away the most reputable recruiting service, they rank and rate the top 500 or so players across the nation in hoops and football. When you click on a player you see the schools that have been in contact with them and it even goes further by showing which schools have offered and which haven't, as exhibited by the example I gave of the UCF commit that got an offer from Princeton. You are not only accusing the kids of lying, but 247 of being complicit with said lie, which is a pretty substantia accusation. You are correct in one sense, the Ivy League doesn't technically give out full athletic schollies, but they give extremely aggressive financial aid packages to kids that play football and hoops there. Harvard was actually # 25 in recruiting in mens hoops in 2016, despite technically not giving out full athletic schollies.

https://harvard.247sports.com/Season/201...l/Commits/

Instead of trying to be so argumentative, maybe listen and you'll learn.

Or the recruiting service could just be wrong.

That's never happened before has it? Where a recruiting service said one thing and something else happened. I mean right?

As opposed to the actual rules that colleges set up for applicants and acceptance. Nobody would take those over such an all knowing always correct web subscription service.

And them being the most reputable is your opinion, not a fact. It's also irrelevant, it's like saying well those three guys can't swim but that guy stayed above water the longest. All three still can't swim.

Just to be clear, which players are you specifically talking about, and which offers? Are you saying that UCF commit Ryan O'Keefe wasn't offered by Princeton? On what grounds are you making that accusation?

Fanhood, you're just not very good at this, even in sock form.

I didn't make an accusation about a specific incident. Rather I implied through a blanket statement that recruiting services often get things wrong. Then I used a analogy of people not being able to swim being ranked in swimming ability to one recruiting service being right more often than another, both are still often wrong. In case you still don't understand what is going on.......

Your source of information has a credibility issue the other person's source doesn't.

(01-13-2019 09:55 PM)usffan Wrote:  

(01-13-2019 09:21 PM)thespywhozaggedme Wrote:  

(01-13-2019 08:29 PM)usffan Wrote:  

(01-13-2019 05:02 PM)thespywhozaggedme Wrote:  

(01-11-2019 04:01 PM)Knights_of_UCF Wrote:  ROASTED

watch in this thread as a sad mwc fan gets completely obliterated by facts and truth

Just curious; do you think I randomly made up Ivy League offers for specific players, or simply copied and pasted the offers? I'm just trying to figure out how your thought process works? Someone mocked Boise's academics and I merely pointed out that we had 8 players just this year that received Ivy League offers. One of your own recruits, Ryan O'Keefe was offered by Princeton:
https://247sports.com/Recruitment/Ryan-O...Interests/

Am I making that up too? C'mon man.

You do realize that the "offers" listed on all of those sites are almost always self-reported by the recruits, right? As mentioned before, Ivy League schools are not allowed to offer athletic scholarships. Therefore, I ask again, what exactly is an Ivy League offer? An offer to let you come play for the team if you can get admitted to the school? I'm pretty sure that's a standing offer to just about any player who's capable of warranting a D1 scholarship.

USFFan

Dude, are you being intentionally obtuse? 247 is far and away the most reputable recruiting service, they rank and rate the top 500 or so players across the nation in hoops and football. When you click on a player you see the schools that have been in contact with them and it even goes further by showing which schools have offered and which haven't, as exhibited by the example I gave of the UCF commit that got an offer from Princeton. You are not only accusing the kids of lying, but 247 of being complicit with said lie, which is a pretty substantia accusation. You are correct in one sense, the Ivy League doesn't technically give out full athletic schollies, but they give extremely aggressive financial aid packages to kids that play football and hoops there. Harvard was actually # 25 in recruiting in mens hoops in 2016, despite technically not giving out full athletic schollies.

https://harvard.247sports.com/Season/201...l/Commits/

Instead of trying to be so argumentative, maybe listen and you'll learn.

I'll do you one better, I'll straight up say that I know these recruiting sites (which are for-profit companies) fabricate information in order to drive business and sell subscriptions. I know people who've worked for them. And it's fairly well documented that they modify their ratings based on the size of the fanbase subscriber size.

And for the third time, since an Ivy League school is not allowed to offer an athletic scholarship, there is no such thing as an Ivy League offer. You can spin it any way you want, but it's a fact.

Now, if you want to talk academic rankings, you can use the US News and World Reports rankings, where you'll find that Boise State is in the lowest rung of National Universities. If you honestly believe that a person capable of getting into all 8 Ivy League schools would turn down that opportunity to take a free ride to Boise State (or USF, or pretty much any school in either the MWC or the AAC - potential exceptions for Navy or Air Force) to play football, then I've got some land I'd be happy to sell you here in Florida.

USFFan

So, so prideful. You're like the 5 year old that sticks his fingers in his ear and yells, "lalalalala, I can't hear you". lol

(01-13-2019 09:56 PM)Foreverandever Wrote:  

(01-13-2019 09:47 PM)thespywhozaggedme Wrote:  

(01-13-2019 09:35 PM)Foreverandever Wrote:  

(01-13-2019 09:21 PM)thespywhozaggedme Wrote:  

(01-13-2019 08:29 PM)usffan Wrote:  You do realize that the "offers" listed on all of those sites are almost always self-reported by the recruits, right? As mentioned before, Ivy League schools are not allowed to offer athletic scholarships. Therefore, I ask again, what exactly is an Ivy League offer? An offer to let you come play for the team if you can get admitted to the school? I'm pretty sure that's a standing offer to just about any player who's capable of warranting a D1 scholarship.

USFFan

Dude, are you being intentionally obtuse? 247 is far and away the most reputable recruiting service, they rank and rate the top 500 or so players across the nation in hoops and football. When you click on a player you see the schools that have been in contact with them and it even goes further by showing which schools have offered and which haven't, as exhibited by the example I gave of the UCF commit that got an offer from Princeton. You are not only accusing the kids of lying, but 247 of being complicit with said lie, which is a pretty substantia accusation. You are correct in one sense, the Ivy League doesn't technically give out full athletic schollies, but they give extremely aggressive financial aid packages to kids that play football and hoops there. Harvard was actually # 25 in recruiting in mens hoops in 2016, despite technically not giving out full athletic schollies.

https://harvard.247sports.com/Season/201...l/Commits/

Instead of trying to be so argumentative, maybe listen and you'll learn.

Or the recruiting service could just be wrong.

That's never happened before has it? Where a recruiting service said one thing and something else happened. I mean right?

As opposed to the actual rules that colleges set up for applicants and acceptance. Nobody would take those over such an all knowing always correct web subscription service.

And them being the most reputable is your opinion, not a fact. It's also irrelevant, it's like saying well those three guys can't swim but that guy stayed above water the longest. All three still can't swim.

Just to be clear, which players are you specifically talking about, and which offers? Are you saying that UCF commit Ryan O'Keefe wasn't offered by Princeton? On what grounds are you making that accusation?

Fanhood, you're just not very good at this, even in sock form.

I didn't make an accusation about a specific incident. Rather I implied through a blanket statement that recruiting services often get things wrong. Then I used a analogy of people not being able to swim being ranked in swimming ability to one recruiting service being right more often than another, both are still often wrong. In case you still don't understand what is going on.......

Your source of information has a credibility issue the other person's source doesn't.

Oh, you made a blanket statement, did you? Well, why didn't you say so. You win. My bad.

(01-13-2019 10:10 PM)thespywhozaggedme Wrote:  

(01-13-2019 09:55 PM)usffan Wrote:  

(01-13-2019 09:21 PM)thespywhozaggedme Wrote:  

(01-13-2019 08:29 PM)usffan Wrote:  

(01-13-2019 05:02 PM)thespywhozaggedme Wrote:  Just curious; do you think I randomly made up Ivy League offers for specific players, or simply copied and pasted the offers? I'm just trying to figure out how your thought process works? Someone mocked Boise's academics and I merely pointed out that we had 8 players just this year that received Ivy League offers. One of your own recruits, Ryan O'Keefe was offered by Princeton:
https://247sports.com/Recruitment/Ryan-O...Interests/

Am I making that up too? C'mon man.

You do realize that the "offers" listed on all of those sites are almost always self-reported by the recruits, right? As mentioned before, Ivy League schools are not allowed to offer athletic scholarships. Therefore, I ask again, what exactly is an Ivy League offer? An offer to let you come play for the team if you can get admitted to the school? I'm pretty sure that's a standing offer to just about any player who's capable of warranting a D1 scholarship.

USFFan

Dude, are you being intentionally obtuse? 247 is far and away the most reputable recruiting service, they rank and rate the top 500 or so players across the nation in hoops and football. When you click on a player you see the schools that have been in contact with them and it even goes further by showing which schools have offered and which haven't, as exhibited by the example I gave of the UCF commit that got an offer from Princeton. You are not only accusing the kids of lying, but 247 of being complicit with said lie, which is a pretty substantia accusation. You are correct in one sense, the Ivy League doesn't technically give out full athletic schollies, but they give extremely aggressive financial aid packages to kids that play football and hoops there. Harvard was actually # 25 in recruiting in mens hoops in 2016, despite technically not giving out full athletic schollies.

https://harvard.247sports.com/Season/201...l/Commits/

Instead of trying to be so argumentative, maybe listen and you'll learn.

I'll do you one better, I'll straight up say that I know these recruiting sites (which are for-profit companies) fabricate information in order to drive business and sell subscriptions. I know people who've worked for them. And it's fairly well documented that they modify their ratings based on the size of the fanbase subscriber size.

And for the third time, since an Ivy League school is not allowed to offer an athletic scholarship, there is no such thing as an Ivy League offer. You can spin it any way you want, but it's a fact.

Now, if you want to talk academic rankings, you can use the US News and World Reports rankings, where you'll find that Boise State is in the lowest rung of National Universities. If you honestly believe that a person capable of getting into all 8 Ivy League schools would turn down that opportunity to take a free ride to Boise State (or USF, or pretty much any school in either the MWC or the AAC - potential exceptions for Navy or Air Force) to play football, then I've got some land I'd be happy to sell you here in Florida.

USFFan

So, so prideful. You're like the 5 year old that sticks his fingers in his ear and yells, "lalalalala, I can't hear you". lol

USFFan

(01-13-2019 10:12 PM)thespywhozaggedme Wrote:  

(01-13-2019 09:56 PM)Foreverandever Wrote:  

(01-13-2019 09:47 PM)thespywhozaggedme Wrote:  

(01-13-2019 09:35 PM)Foreverandever Wrote:  

(01-13-2019 09:21 PM)thespywhozaggedme Wrote:  Dude, are you being intentionally obtuse? 247 is far and away the most reputable recruiting service, they rank and rate the top 500 or so players across the nation in hoops and football. When you click on a player you see the schools that have been in contact with them and it even goes further by showing which schools have offered and which haven't, as exhibited by the example I gave of the UCF commit that got an offer from Princeton. You are not only accusing the kids of lying, but 247 of being complicit with said lie, which is a pretty substantia accusation. You are correct in one sense, the Ivy League doesn't technically give out full athletic schollies, but they give extremely aggressive financial aid packages to kids that play football and hoops there. Harvard was actually # 25 in recruiting in mens hoops in 2016, despite technically not giving out full athletic schollies.

https://harvard.247sports.com/Season/201...l/Commits/

Instead of trying to be so argumentative, maybe listen and you'll learn.

Or the recruiting service could just be wrong.

That's never happened before has it? Where a recruiting service said one thing and something else happened. I mean right?

As opposed to the actual rules that colleges set up for applicants and acceptance. Nobody would take those over such an all knowing always correct web subscription service.

And them being the most reputable is your opinion, not a fact. It's also irrelevant, it's like saying well those three guys can't swim but that guy stayed above water the longest. All three still can't swim.

Just to be clear, which players are you specifically talking about, and which offers? Are you saying that UCF commit Ryan O'Keefe wasn't offered by Princeton? On what grounds are you making that accusation?

Fanhood, you're just not very good at this, even in sock form.

I didn't make an accusation about a specific incident. Rather I implied through a blanket statement that recruiting services often get things wrong. Then I used a analogy of people not being able to swim being ranked in swimming ability to one recruiting service being right more often than another, both are still often wrong. In case you still don't understand what is going on.......

Your source of information has a credibility issue the other person's source doesn't.

Oh, you made a blanket statement, did you? Well, why didn't you say so. You win. My bad.

Yes and I pointed it out to you. Come on sock you can do it....

(01-13-2019 12:22 PM)EDLUVAR Wrote:  

(01-12-2019 11:50 PM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  Doesn't Boise State offer a trucker college? Might be huge for recruiting. Toot toot

Gotta do what you can. Alas there is no trucking college. CWI hosts all the vocational stuff. How do they do things at the nations biggest commuter school?

Funfact...18% of UCF's undergraduate students live on campus which coincidently is exactly the same % of BSU undergrads living on campus. If UCF is a commuter so is BSU, but to your point UCF happens to be 3x bigger.