(12-19-2018 10:42 PM)BurlingtonApp Wrote:  

(12-19-2018 10:23 PM)FTE_rawr Wrote:  

(12-19-2018 10:19 PM)SBEagle Wrote:  

(12-19-2018 07:47 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(12-19-2018 06:42 PM)WolfBird Wrote:  They’re better than 6 Sun Belt teams, maybe 7.


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I don't know. Georgia State beat a top 5 FCS team this year, and no here is calling the Panthers a top 5 SBC team.

I think NDSU is very good, and would certainly have success against lower level FBS teams, but our top teams would blow them out of the water.

None of us would blow them out of the water at their place.


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I mean, were sorta used to the cold.

Well, they play indoors so that wouldn't help. However, we've never lost indoors.

Going back how far?

all these people saying they couldn't compete in FBS were probably the same people saying app and GS wouldn't walk in and compete right away.

Yeah don't kid yourselves, guys. NDSU would compete for the Sun Belt title right away. Sure the FCS isn't as deep as it used to be, but they have been on another level.

They would have easily won CUSA this season and more than likely the MAC too.

(12-20-2018 06:19 AM)McLeansvilleAppFan Wrote:  

(12-19-2018 10:42 PM)BurlingtonApp Wrote:  

(12-19-2018 10:23 PM)FTE_rawr Wrote:  

(12-19-2018 10:19 PM)SBEagle Wrote:  

(12-19-2018 07:47 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  I don't know. Georgia State beat a top 5 FCS team this year, and no here is calling the Panthers a top 5 SBC team.

I think NDSU is very good, and would certainly have success against lower level FBS teams, but our top teams would blow them out of the water.

None of us would blow them out of the water at their place.


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I mean, were sorta used to the cold.

Well, they play indoors so that wouldn't help. However, we've never lost indoors.

Going back how far?

Well, App did lose in the MiniDome at ETSU in the mid 90s. 1996, maybe.

If you haven't been to the Fargo Dome I don't know that you can comprehend how loud it is in that tuna can.

Their fan base makes anyone else seem pleasant. I do not miss their troll posters at all from the FCS board days.

(12-20-2018 09:03 AM)Yosef Himself Wrote:  

(12-20-2018 06:19 AM)McLeansvilleAppFan Wrote:  

(12-19-2018 10:42 PM)BurlingtonApp Wrote:  

(12-19-2018 10:23 PM)FTE_rawr Wrote:  

(12-19-2018 10:19 PM)SBEagle Wrote:  None of us would blow them out of the water at their place.


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I mean, were sorta used to the cold.

Well, they play indoors so that wouldn't help. However, we've never lost indoors.

Going back how far?

Well, App did lose in the MiniDome at ETSU in the mid 90s. 1996, maybe.

Totally forgot about ETSU. My bad.

(12-19-2018 07:49 PM)McLeansvilleAppFan Wrote:  It would be a great year to let them play the FBS championship. When App played LSU in 2008 it showed the separation between top FCS and top FBS at least at that point in time. Having them play the top Great5 school would be a good game I think.

As far as rankings I would think this could be a product of so few data points betwen FBS and top level FCS, but I am no stats major and have not looked at that data that closely.

NDSU would never schedule that game. It would break the illusion.

(12-20-2018 08:53 AM)asucrutch23 Wrote:  Yeah don't kid yourselves, guys. NDSU would compete for the Sun Belt title right away. Sure the FCS isn't as deep as it used to be, but they have been on another level.

They would have easily won CUSA this season and more than likely the MAC too.

I've watched them. I don't see them beating Georgia Southern, Arkansas State, Troy, or App. They probably wouldn't beat Louisiana or ULM (on a good day) either.

(12-20-2018 11:36 AM)ericsaid Wrote:  

(12-20-2018 08:53 AM)asucrutch23 Wrote:  Yeah don't kid yourselves, guys. NDSU would compete for the Sun Belt title right away. Sure the FCS isn't as deep as it used to be, but they have been on another level.

They would have easily won CUSA this season and more than likely the MAC too.

I've watched them. I don't see them beating Georgia Southern, Arkansas State, Troy, or App. They probably wouldn't beat Louisiana or ULM (on a good day) either.

I've watched them too. I see them beating everyone in the SBC West. My assertion stands that they would compete for the Sun Belt title. Of course we'll never know.

(12-20-2018 11:39 AM)asucrutch23 Wrote:  

(12-20-2018 11:36 AM)ericsaid Wrote:  

(12-20-2018 08:53 AM)asucrutch23 Wrote:  Yeah don't kid yourselves, guys. NDSU would compete for the Sun Belt title right away. Sure the FCS isn't as deep as it used to be, but they have been on another level.

They would have easily won CUSA this season and more than likely the MAC too.

I've watched them. I don't see them beating Georgia Southern, Arkansas State, Troy, or App. They probably wouldn't beat Louisiana or ULM (on a good day) either.

I've watched them too. I see them beating everyone in the SBC West. My assertion stands that they would compete for the Sun Belt title. Of course we'll never know.

Playing in the Sun Belt this year they would probably go anywhere from 5-3 to 8-0. They have been good for a long time so my guess is they would probably average 9 or 10 wins each season for the past 5 seasons if they played in our league with the same players. One of the appeals of playing for NDSU is the ability to actually win a National Championship so I would wonder if they would get the same players if they were playing in a far flung league like the Sun Belt.

(12-20-2018 12:06 PM)Georgia_Power_Company Wrote:  One of the appeals of playing for NDSU is the ability to actually win a National Championship so I would wonder if they would get the same players if they were playing in a far flung league like the Sun Belt.

Great point. Didn't seem to hinder App or GS too much though. I'd bet they'd be fine with the culture they have built.

(12-20-2018 12:28 PM)asucrutch23 Wrote:  

(12-20-2018 12:06 PM)Georgia_Power_Company Wrote:  One of the appeals of playing for NDSU is the ability to actually win a National Championship so I would wonder if they would get the same players if they were playing in a far flung league like the Sun Belt.

Great point. Didn't seem to hinder App or GS too much though. I'd bet they'd be fine with the culture they have built.

It makes you wonder if the quality of player to compete in the FBS consistently would still choose to go to North Dakota State should they move up. Their talent pool could become less because the players at this level have more options in more desirable locations. Perhaps finding 20 players a year wouldn't be so difficult but you never know.

(12-20-2018 11:39 AM)asucrutch23 Wrote:  

(12-20-2018 11:36 AM)ericsaid Wrote:  

(12-20-2018 08:53 AM)asucrutch23 Wrote:  Yeah don't kid yourselves, guys. NDSU would compete for the Sun Belt title right away. Sure the FCS isn't as deep as it used to be, but they have been on another level.

They would have easily won CUSA this season and more than likely the MAC too.

I've watched them. I don't see them beating Georgia Southern, Arkansas State, Troy, or App. They probably wouldn't beat Louisiana or ULM (on a good day) either.

I've watched them too. I see them beating everyone in the SBC West. My assertion stands that they would compete for the Sun Belt title. Of course we'll never know.

I think they are a good team but they and Arkansas State are likely on level ground. You never know what you're going to get with Louisiana or ULM.

In their last 119 games they've only given up 30+ points on 5 occasions and they still won 3 of those games. That includes all of their P5 opponents.

W - Minnesota (37-24)
W - Colorado State (22-7)
W - Kansas State (24-21)
W - Iowa State (34-14)
W - #13 Iowa (23-21)

If ANY of our teams were capable of claiming a 5-0 record against P5 teams in the last 8 years we'd be kicked off this message board we'd be soo annoying. I get the FBS depth argument, but there's no way they wouldn't come in and compete for a Sun Belt title immediately. They are just a well-coached and well-disciplined team. Nothing really flashy.

(12-20-2018 12:28 PM)asucrutch23 Wrote:  

(12-20-2018 12:06 PM)Georgia_Power_Company Wrote:  One of the appeals of playing for NDSU is the ability to actually win a National Championship so I would wonder if they would get the same players if they were playing in a far flung league like the Sun Belt.

Great point. Didn't seem to hinder App or GS too much though. I'd bet they'd be fine with the culture they have built.

True but I was thinking more along the lines of playing teams from 1/2 a country away. Before NDSU moved up and became the winner they are Montana kind of sucked up the top level FCS talent in Big Sky Country/Upper Midwest area. If a lot of these players lived and played in Georgia they would be getting offers from all of us but they don't so they stayed closer to home. Now NDSU moves to the Sun Belt and all of the sudden you are not playing for National Championships anymore and your closest conference mate is four states away. I'm thinking they would end up being another Idaho after just a few seasons.

(12-20-2018 12:47 PM)ericsaid Wrote:  

(12-20-2018 12:28 PM)asucrutch23 Wrote:  

(12-20-2018 12:06 PM)Georgia_Power_Company Wrote:  One of the appeals of playing for NDSU is the ability to actually win a National Championship so I would wonder if they would get the same players if they were playing in a far flung league like the Sun Belt.

Great point. Didn't seem to hinder App or GS too much though. I'd bet they'd be fine with the culture they have built.

It makes you wonder if the quality of player to compete in the FBS consistently would still choose to go to North Dakota State should they move up. Their talent pool could become less because the players at this level have more options in more desirable locations. Perhaps finding 20 players a year wouldn't be so difficult but you never know.

Why would them moving up make it harder to find better players? App and GS both have gotten much better players since moving up. Why would a winning program like NDSU be any different?

(12-20-2018 02:15 PM)NCeagle Wrote:  

(12-20-2018 12:47 PM)ericsaid Wrote:  

(12-20-2018 12:28 PM)asucrutch23 Wrote:  

(12-20-2018 12:06 PM)Georgia_Power_Company Wrote:  One of the appeals of playing for NDSU is the ability to actually win a National Championship so I would wonder if they would get the same players if they were playing in a far flung league like the Sun Belt.

Great point. Didn't seem to hinder App or GS too much though. I'd bet they'd be fine with the culture they have built.

It makes you wonder if the quality of player to compete in the FBS consistently would still choose to go to North Dakota State should they move up. Their talent pool could become less because the players at this level have more options in more desirable locations. Perhaps finding 20 players a year wouldn't be so difficult but you never know.

Why would them moving up make it harder to find better players? App and GS both have gotten much better players since moving up. Why would a winning program like NDSU be any different?

Mainly location.

(12-20-2018 01:37 PM)TrueBlueAlum Wrote:  In their last 119 games they've only given up 30+ points on 5 occasions and they still won 3 of those games. That includes all of their P5 opponents.

W - Minnesota (37-24)
W - Colorado State (22-7)
W - Kansas State (24-21)
W - Iowa State (34-14)
W - #13 Iowa (23-21)

If ANY of our teams were capable of claiming a 5-0 record against P5 teams in the last 8 years we'd be kicked off this message board we'd be soo annoying. I get the FBS depth argument, but there's no way they wouldn't come in and compete for a Sun Belt title immediately. They are just a well-coached and well-disciplined team. Nothing really flashy.

Colorado State isn't power 5.

I wish we could play as many sucky Power 5 teams as they do.

(12-20-2018 01:37 PM)TrueBlueAlum Wrote:  In their last 119 games they've only given up 30+ points on 5 occasions and they still won 3 of those games. That includes all of their P5 opponents.

W - Minnesota (37-24)
W - Colorado State (22-7)
W - Kansas State (24-21)
W - Iowa State (34-14)
W - #13 Iowa (23-21)

If ANY of our teams were capable of claiming a 5-0 record against P5 teams in the last 8 years we'd be kicked off this message board we'd be soo annoying. I get the FBS depth argument, but there's no way they wouldn't come in and compete for a Sun Belt title immediately. They are just a well-coached and well-disciplined team. Nothing really flashy.

I'd love to get a couple 2-10 P5 teams on our schedule.