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RE: Here is basically the reality on G5 coaches moving up
(12-05-2018 04:42 PM)CajunAmos Wrote:  
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(12-04-2018 11:59 AM)CardinalBlackTrojan Wrote:  I believe most of our schools have the ability to pay at or over $1 million for a coach... I just believe there is reluctance to do so when all you've had to pay is $400K-$600K in the past.

In 2014, Louisiana came out of nowhere and was paying Hudspeth almost $1 million. They were paying Rickey Bustle less than $400K before Hudspeth got there.

Even Troy in 2014 was paying Larry Blakeney only $480K. Then Neal Brown comes in and Troy is paying $810K (over $1 million if you include incentives). Plus Troy started shelling out cash for assistant coaches and now has the highest paid assistants in the Sun Belt.

If the Sun Belt keeps finishing in the Top 3 of the G5 conference rankings every year, that'll help even more when it comes to salaries. Each one of our schools will make more money than the MAC, CUSA, and MWC from the CFP payout simply because we only split it between 10 teams.

Is the new coaching staff salaries posted somewhere? I know Koenning was the highest paid assistant from the old staff. Is that still the case? The Cajun 10 person staff right now is at $1.73M.

Last time I looked, Koenning's salary is still $270K.

Just wanted to update assistant coach salaries as someone on our board just posted the 2018 assistant coach salary list from USA today. I will say that Troy upped their salaries when Brown was hired, but they are not the highest paid assistant staff.

2018 NCAACF Assistant Coach Salaries

Thanks for the update. I find it interesting that there is a log jam right in the middle for total assistant staff pay with UL @ $1.7M and Troy at $1.4M at the top. TXST and ULM at less than $1M at the bottom and the rest of the Belt all at $1.2M give or take a couple thousand.
12-05-2018 07:41 PM
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RE: Here is basically the reality on G5 coaches moving up
This is one reason why App needs to cut a few sports. We are stretched so thin by sponsoring 20 sports. We've been lucky so many good coaches like the school and area enough that they're willing to take less than they could make other places. That might need to change in a hurry.
12-06-2018 09:07 AM
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RE: Here is basically the reality on G5 coaches moving up
(12-05-2018 07:41 PM)Georgia_Power_Company Wrote:  
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(12-04-2018 02:35 PM)CardinalBlackTrojan Wrote:  
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(12-04-2018 11:59 AM)CardinalBlackTrojan Wrote:  I believe most of our schools have the ability to pay at or over $1 million for a coach... I just believe there is reluctance to do so when all you've had to pay is $400K-$600K in the past.

In 2014, Louisiana came out of nowhere and was paying Hudspeth almost $1 million. They were paying Rickey Bustle less than $400K before Hudspeth got there.

Even Troy in 2014 was paying Larry Blakeney only $480K. Then Neal Brown comes in and Troy is paying $810K (over $1 million if you include incentives). Plus Troy started shelling out cash for assistant coaches and now has the highest paid assistants in the Sun Belt.

If the Sun Belt keeps finishing in the Top 3 of the G5 conference rankings every year, that'll help even more when it comes to salaries. Each one of our schools will make more money than the MAC, CUSA, and MWC from the CFP payout simply because we only split it between 10 teams.

Is the new coaching staff salaries posted somewhere? I know Koenning was the highest paid assistant from the old staff. Is that still the case? The Cajun 10 person staff right now is at $1.73M.

Last time I looked, Koenning's salary is still $270K.

Just wanted to update assistant coach salaries as someone on our board just posted the 2018 assistant coach salary list from USA today. I will say that Troy upped their salaries when Brown was hired, but they are not the highest paid assistant staff.

2018 NCAACF Assistant Coach Salaries

Thanks for the update. I find it interesting that there is a log jam right in the middle for total assistant staff pay with UL @ $1.7M and Troy at $1.4M at the top. TXST and ULM at less than $1M at the bottom and the rest of the Belt all at $1.2M give or take a couple thousand.

I did a summary but couldn't attach it without luck in a number of formats. Hopefully the link will work.

SBC Assistants Salary Pool
12-06-2018 01:10 PM
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RE: Here is basically the reality on G5 coaches moving up
Just wondering who the next fan base will be that is convinced they will not lose their coach to anyone short of AL...lol.

If a P5 or even a decently funded AAC team wants your coach it does no matter if you pay your SBC coach 500K or 850K you are still losing him, same for assistant pay. I they coach is not threatening to quit or getting competing offers if you are around 600-700K with a winning coach there is zero reason to increase pay just to do it. Performance bonuses should be the focus. 400-500K for a new FBS HC is more than fine. Unless it is a Mike Houston type resume.

CL did a great job righting the ship but is was a nice ship that needed turning not a dumpster fire.
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(12-03-2018 07:28 PM)GaSoEagle Wrote:  There are approximately 65 P5 programs and I ll throw in 12 AAC programs — that s roughly 77 jobs. Any G5 coach in the Belt/MAC or CUSA and almost all of the MWC who is offered 1 of these 77 jobs will take it in almost every case.

At the G5 level the AAC is probably in the 1 mil to 1.8 mil range so other G5 coaches will move there— ie Fritz to Tulane. The range of Belt/MAC/CUSA coaches is probably 500K-1 mil.

Just financial reality. Belt schools just can t compete with P5 money or even AAC money

Memphis pays Norvell 2.6 Million...Navy's coach makes 2.1 Million...UC's Luke Fickell makes 2 Million...
12-07-2018 08:33 AM
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RE: Here is basically the reality on G5 coaches moving up
(12-04-2018 02:35 PM)CardinalBlackTrojan Wrote:  
(12-04-2018 02:30 PM)CajunAmos Wrote:  
(12-04-2018 11:59 AM)CardinalBlackTrojan Wrote:  I believe most of our schools have the ability to pay at or over $1 million for a coach... I just believe there is reluctance to do so when all you've had to pay is $400K-$600K in the past.

In 2014, Louisiana came out of nowhere and was paying Hudspeth almost $1 million. They were paying Rickey Bustle less than $400K before Hudspeth got there.

Even Troy in 2014 was paying Larry Blakeney only $480K. Then Neal Brown comes in and Troy is paying $810K (over $1 million if you include incentives). Plus Troy started shelling out cash for assistant coaches and now has the highest paid assistants in the Sun Belt.

If the Sun Belt keeps finishing in the Top 3 of the G5 conference rankings every year, that'll help even more when it comes to salaries. Each one of our schools will make more money than the MAC, CUSA, and MWC from the CFP payout simply because we only split it between 10 teams.

Is the new coaching staff salaries posted somewhere? I know Koenning was the highest paid assistant from the old staff. Is that still the case? The Cajun 10 person staff right now is at $1.73M.

Last time I looked, Koenning's salary is still $270K.

I meant to note in the previous post that Koenning's salary now shows $300K.
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