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(09-18-2018 01:58 PM)OKIcat Wrote:  My guess is, once a P5 program gets a taste of the incredible home field advantage Nippert provides for UC, they have no desire to return and risk absorbing a G5 loss when they can stay home and buy games against lesser G5 programs and even FBS schools.

Count among our victims in the past 20 years or so who won't likely be returning: Kentucky, NC State, Miami (FL), Oregon State, Illinois, Purdue, Wisconsin, and Kansas. I'm surprised old BE foe Pitt is returning; WVU, Louisville, Rutgers and Syracuse would seem unlikely.

I suspect that eastern P5 opponent is Boston College. If so, that one if fine with me. I'd go hard after the other service academies for home and home. Air Force and Army have some brand value and are exciting road trips.

had a home and home with Air Force a few years ago, but UC backed out before the series started

(09-18-2018 04:37 PM)RealDeal Wrote:  Just guessing but these bottom feeding IAA teams probably cost less to bring in than quality teams like Youngstown

This.

The FCS schools cost less to buy a game from. That's why Youngstown St isn't coming here for one game anytime in the future.

(09-19-2018 06:53 AM)JPBearcat3 Wrote:  

(09-18-2018 04:37 PM)RealDeal Wrote:  Just guessing but these bottom feeding IAA teams probably cost less to bring in than quality teams like Youngstown

This.

The FCS schools cost less to buy a game from. That's why Youngstown St isn't coming here for one game anytime in the future.

Is there still an "FCS penalty"? Specifically, you could only count one FCS win toward bowl eligibility over a certain multi-season time period--three years maybe.

(09-18-2018 01:58 PM)OKIcat Wrote:  My guess is, once a P5 program gets a taste of the incredible home field advantage Nippert provides for UC, they have no desire to return and risk absorbing a G5 loss when they can stay home and buy games against lesser G5 programs and even FBS schools.

Count among our victims in the past 20 years or so who won't likely be returning: Kentucky, NC State, Miami (FL), Oregon State, Illinois, Purdue, Wisconsin, and Kansas. I'm surprised old BE foe Pitt is returning; WVU, Louisville, Rutgers and Syracuse would seem unlikely.

I suspect that eastern P5 opponent is Boston College. If so, that one if fine with me. I'd go hard after the other service academies for home and home. Air Force and Army have some brand value and are exciting road trips.

Mid-level P5 programs are not as rich as you might think. Schools like Texas Tech and Missouri are competing against schools in their own conference with nearly twice as big a budget. Washington State is only one spot ahead of UC on the USA Today athletic revenue chart.

There's a reason Kansas, Utah, Miami (FL), Maryland, and Syracuse played away games at MAC schools this year.

(09-19-2018 06:53 AM)JPBearcat3 Wrote:  

(09-18-2018 04:37 PM)RealDeal Wrote:  Just guessing but these bottom feeding IAA teams probably cost less to bring in than quality teams like Youngstown

This.

The FCS schools cost less to buy a game from. That's why Youngstown St isn't coming here for one game anytime in the future.

Youngstown State is FCS.

(09-19-2018 09:06 AM)TubaCat Wrote:  

(09-19-2018 06:53 AM)JPBearcat3 Wrote:  

(09-18-2018 04:37 PM)RealDeal Wrote:  Just guessing but these bottom feeding IAA teams probably cost less to bring in than quality teams like Youngstown

This.

The FCS schools cost less to buy a game from. That's why Youngstown St isn't coming here for one game anytime in the future.

Youngstown State is FCS.

I think what he meant to say is that Alabama A&M is much cheaper to buy than YSU. Not so sure about price, but I think YSU's status as a top shelf FCS program can afford them with more selectivity in who they agree to play. Interestingly, I looked up their opponents for the past 10 years and the only FBS schools they have played are Pitt, WVU, Michigan State, Penn State and Illinois. Pitt, WVU and Penn State make a whole lot of sense for them from a geography and interest stand point (you can get to Pittsburgh in about an hour from Youngstown and State College is an easy drive mostly on the Turnpike).

(09-19-2018 09:15 AM)CliftonAve Wrote:  

(09-19-2018 09:06 AM)TubaCat Wrote:  

(09-19-2018 06:53 AM)JPBearcat3 Wrote:  

(09-18-2018 04:37 PM)RealDeal Wrote:  Just guessing but these bottom feeding IAA teams probably cost less to bring in than quality teams like Youngstown

This.

The FCS schools cost less to buy a game from. That's why Youngstown St isn't coming here for one game anytime in the future.

Youngstown State is FCS.

I think what he meant to say is that Alabama A&M is much cheaper to buy than YSU. Not so sure about price, but I think YSU's status as a top shelf FCS program can afford them with more selectivity in who they agree to play. Interestingly, I looked up their opponents for the past 10 years and the only FBS schools they have played are Pitt, WVU, Michigan State, Penn State and Illinois. Pitt, WVU and Penn State make a whole lot of sense for them from a geography and interest stand point (you can get to Pittsburgh in about an hour from Youngstown and State College is an easy drive mostly on the Turnpike).

Ah, ok. I can see that.

My "dream" ideas for drive-able P5 home and home series would include:

Vandy - Music City road trip anyone?

Northwestern - Chicago is a great town to visit

Pitt - Interesting town with good night life (Yes, I know one is scheduled - more please)

Lower on my list, still driveable:
Purdue - lets go back
VT
Illinois
Indiana
Penn State
Kentucky

(09-19-2018 11:21 AM)ucbandguy Wrote:  My "dream" ideas for drive-able P5 home and home series would include:

Vandy - Music City road trip anyone?

Northwestern - Chicago is a great town to visit

Pitt - Interesting town with good night life (Yes, I know one is scheduled - more please)

Lower on my list, still driveable:
Purdue - lets go back
VT
Illinois
Indiana
Penn State
Kentucky

Vandy vs Memphis Country vs Blues Chicken vs BBQ? I go Memphis

Nortwestern never been there. I used to have subsidiary in Skokie. Horrible traffic. Just avoid Southside or have an up to date Will.

Pitt Permanti Fries on a Sandwich? Was there twice loved beating them.

Purdue close but totally devoid of meaning.

VT then drive on to Little Washington.

IL they were very nice except to Munchie and the cheating refs.

IU scenic in the fall and reminds me of HS Girlfriend who went there.

PSU Pedi U? I pass


UK ah the smell of burning mattresses in the fall.

(09-19-2018 02:26 PM)doss2 Wrote:  

(09-19-2018 11:21 AM)ucbandguy Wrote:  My "dream" ideas for drive-able P5 home and home series would include:

Vandy - Music City road trip anyone?

Northwestern - Chicago is a great town to visit

Pitt - Interesting town with good night life (Yes, I know one is scheduled - more please)

Lower on my list, still driveable:
Purdue - lets go back
VT
Illinois
Indiana
Penn State
Kentucky

Vandy vs Memphis Country vs Blues Chicken vs BBQ? I go Memphis

Nortwestern never been there. I used to have subsidiary in Skokie. Horrible traffic. Just avoid Southside or have an up to date Will.

Pitt Permanti Fries on a Sandwich? Was there twice loved beating them.

Purdue close but totally devoid of meaning.

VT then drive on to Little Washington.

IL they were very nice except to Munchie and the cheating refs.

IU scenic in the fall and reminds me of HS Girlfriend who went there.

PSU Pedi U? I pass

UK ah the smell of burning mattresses in the fall.

Please take your meds, doss.

Great parties in the parking lot at Penn State.

(09-18-2018 02:27 PM)cpawstoney Wrote:  

(09-18-2018 02:18 PM)CliftonAve Wrote:  

(09-18-2018 01:27 PM)BearcatJerry Wrote:  I have said this before, but if we are going to have an FCS game...either as filler or regularly...I'd prefer that UC look at some of the more...ah...local FCS programs.

Nothing against schools like Alabama A&M, Delaware State, Austin Peay, and SE Louisiana (or whomever we played a couple of years back), but we have more regional FCS programs like Youngstown State (they just played @ WVU two weeks back) and Murray State, or even old BE mates like Villanova, that would bring every bit the buzz of Alabama A&M.

And by bringing in a Youngstown State, you (a) can at least claim to be "helping" another State school, (b) you have better access to their fan-base (just out of a closer distance), and © you "plant" your flag in another part of the State (of Ohio). Not to mention the debatable quality of having a slightly more reputable opponent than Delaware State (a truly awful program) or Alabama A&M (which plays in the SWAC and is just not well known).

I'm sure I'm missing other "regional" (I'll throw the states of Ohio, Kentucky, Indiana, and maybe even lower Michigan into the mix) FCS programs. I'd just prefer to see names I'd actually recognize on that FCS slot...if we're going to keep filling the vacancies with FCS type opponents.

YSU, Eastern Kentucky and Murry State travel pretty well. Eastern brought a ton of fans about 10 years ago. Would make a lot of sense to fill the seats.

Not sure if it was Bohn or if it dates back to Tuberville, but someone must have struck up a pretty good relationship with the ADs at Alabama A&M and Austin Peay to bring them back within a few years again. We've scheduled them in basketball too.

But, Alabama A&M has the Dancing Divas. Between our band and their band it was a decent half time show.

Did their band do a post game performance?

(09-19-2018 02:56 PM)geef Wrote:  

(09-19-2018 02:26 PM)doss2 Wrote:  

(09-19-2018 11:21 AM)ucbandguy Wrote:  My "dream" ideas for drive-able P5 home and home series would include:

Vandy - Music City road trip anyone?

Northwestern - Chicago is a great town to visit

Pitt - Interesting town with good night life (Yes, I know one is scheduled - more please)

Lower on my list, still driveable:
Purdue - lets go back
VT
Illinois
Indiana
Penn State
Kentucky

Vandy vs Memphis Country vs Blues Chicken vs BBQ? I go Memphis

Nortwestern never been there. I used to have subsidiary in Skokie. Horrible traffic. Just avoid Southside or have an up to date Will.

Pitt Permanti Fries on a Sandwich? Was there twice loved beating them.

Purdue close but totally devoid of meaning.

VT then drive on to Little Washington.

IL they were very nice except to Munchie and the cheating refs.

IU scenic in the fall and reminds me of HS Girlfriend who went there.

PSU Pedi U? I pass

UK ah the smell of burning mattresses in the fall.

Please take your meds, doss.

I sold them to your momma

(09-19-2018 07:15 PM)Bruce Monnin Wrote:  Great parties in the parking lot at Penn State.

Is that a Larry Sandusky joke?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=OpQkHKZ7aKA

Alabama A&M Coach media conference call. Flatters UC a bit, says they have gotten games with us because their AD has ties to Louisville. We paid them $500k

(09-19-2018 08:57 PM)TubaCat Wrote:  

(09-19-2018 07:15 PM)Bruce Monnin Wrote:  Great parties in the parking lot at Penn State.

Is that a Larry Sandusky joke?

Nope. Been there for a game. People without tickets to the game set up tailgate parties and watch the game on TV in the parking lot. I found you can eat and drink a lot for free there.

(09-19-2018 08:42 PM)doss2 Wrote:  

(09-19-2018 02:56 PM)geef Wrote:  

(09-19-2018 02:26 PM)doss2 Wrote:  

(09-19-2018 11:21 AM)ucbandguy Wrote:  My "dream" ideas for drive-able P5 home and home series would include:

Vandy - Music City road trip anyone?

Northwestern - Chicago is a great town to visit

Pitt - Interesting town with good night life (Yes, I know one is scheduled - more please)

Lower on my list, still driveable:
Purdue - lets go back
VT
Illinois
Indiana
Penn State
Kentucky

Vandy vs Memphis Country vs Blues Chicken vs BBQ? I go Memphis

Nortwestern never been there. I used to have subsidiary in Skokie. Horrible traffic. Just avoid Southside or have an up to date Will.

Pitt Permanti Fries on a Sandwich? Was there twice loved beating them.

Purdue close but totally devoid of meaning.

VT then drive on to Little Washington.

IL they were very nice except to Munchie and the cheating refs.

IU scenic in the fall and reminds me of HS Girlfriend who went there.

PSU Pedi U? I pass

UK ah the smell of burning mattresses in the fall.

Please take your meds, doss.

I sold them to your momma

I heard the two of you had a nice date. That makes my heart sing.

Austin Peay in 2020


https://fbschedules.com/cincinnati-austi...-schedule/


09/05 - Austin Peay
09/12 - Western Michigan
09/19 - at Miami (Ohio)
09/26 - at Nebraska

(10-16-2018 01:56 PM)Bearcat2012 Wrote:  not exactly one we were waiting for to be announced, but nonetheless.....

https://fbschedules.com/cincinnati-austi...-schedule/

So this is our 2020 OOC schedule:
Austin Peay
Western Michigan
@ Miami (OH)
@ Nebraska

To be honest, I'm not impressed. Nebraska is great, but seeing 3 cupcakes in 2020 hurts.

(10-16-2018 02:11 PM)TubaCat Wrote:  

(10-16-2018 01:56 PM)Bearcat2012 Wrote:  not exactly one we were waiting for to be announced, but nonetheless.....

https://fbschedules.com/cincinnati-austi...-schedule/

So this is our 2020 OOC schedule:
Austin Peay
Western Michigan
@ Miami (OH)
@ Nebraska

To be honest, I'm not impressed. Nebraska is great, but seeing 3 cupcakes in 2020 hurts.

Needed a home game. Western Michigan has had some recent success. Nebraska is a good road game. I'd rather have another game against a P5 team, but those are hard to schedule this late in the game.

Next year UC has a loaded OOC schedule. The following year we need another home game, hopefully against a P5 team.