(03-15-2019 04:49 PM)freshtop Wrote:  

(03-15-2019 01:47 PM)Yosef Himself Wrote:  There is only a finite amount of money that the CFP pays out to the G5. No teams are going to be called up while that amount is $1mil per team up to 10 teams unless a conference drops below that 10 team threshold.

No team is going to get voted out of a conference either.

No one will be voted out, but I could see some Universities tightening up the belt strings if their athletic programs aren't a net positive. The academic bubble is dangerously close to bursting.

If Louisiana politicians decide, you could see schools merge, and non-LSU/La. Tech schools be forced into one conference which La.-Monroe and La-Lafayette could be in the FCS in the same conference with McNeese State and Southern.

(03-15-2019 05:07 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  

(03-15-2019 04:49 PM)freshtop Wrote:  

(03-15-2019 01:47 PM)Yosef Himself Wrote:  There is only a finite amount of money that the CFP pays out to the G5. No teams are going to be called up while that amount is $1mil per team up to 10 teams unless a conference drops below that 10 team threshold.

No team is going to get voted out of a conference either.

No one will be voted out, but I could see some Universities tightening up the belt strings if their athletic programs aren't a net positive. The academic bubble is dangerously close to bursting.

If Louisiana politicians decide, you could see schools merge, and non-LSU/La. Tech schools be forced into one conference which La.-Monroe and La-Lafayette could be in the FCS in the same conference with McNeese State and Southern.

Just say "no" to nonsense like this.

(03-15-2019 05:07 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  

(03-15-2019 04:49 PM)freshtop Wrote:  

(03-15-2019 01:47 PM)Yosef Himself Wrote:  There is only a finite amount of money that the CFP pays out to the G5. No teams are going to be called up while that amount is $1mil per team up to 10 teams unless a conference drops below that 10 team threshold.

No team is going to get voted out of a conference either.

No one will be voted out, but I could see some Universities tightening up the belt strings if their athletic programs aren't a net positive. The academic bubble is dangerously close to bursting.

If Louisiana politicians decide, you could see schools merge, and non-LSU/La. Tech schools be forced into one conference which La.-Monroe and La-Lafayette could be in the FCS in the same conference with McNeese State and Southern.

Nah.

Believe it or not, ULM athletics isn't running in the red. They don't spend a lot, but don't lose money. They barely made money, but they didn't lose money, or millions like UConn.

(03-15-2019 05:07 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  

(03-15-2019 04:49 PM)freshtop Wrote:  

(03-15-2019 01:47 PM)Yosef Himself Wrote:  There is only a finite amount of money that the CFP pays out to the G5. No teams are going to be called up while that amount is $1mil per team up to 10 teams unless a conference drops below that 10 team threshold.

No team is going to get voted out of a conference either.

No one will be voted out, but I could see some Universities tightening up the belt strings if their athletic programs aren't a net positive. The academic bubble is dangerously close to bursting.

If Louisiana politicians decide, you could see schools merge, and non-LSU/La. Tech schools be forced into one conference which La.-Monroe and La-Lafayette could be in the FCS in the same conference with McNeese State and Southern.

Of course there is zero reason for Louisiana politicians to do that. They may impose budget cuts that would, over time, ultimately force a move to a more compact conference situation--but I dont think they would directly dictate to those schools something like they must move to FCS.

(03-15-2019 05:07 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  

(03-15-2019 04:49 PM)freshtop Wrote:  

(03-15-2019 01:47 PM)Yosef Himself Wrote:  There is only a finite amount of money that the CFP pays out to the G5. No teams are going to be called up while that amount is $1mil per team up to 10 teams unless a conference drops below that 10 team threshold.

No team is going to get voted out of a conference either.

No one will be voted out, but I could see some Universities tightening up the belt strings if their athletic programs aren't a net positive. The academic bubble is dangerously close to bursting.

If Louisiana politicians decide, you could see schools merge, and non-LSU/La. Tech schools be forced into one conference which La.-Monroe and La-Lafayette could be in the FCS in the same conference with McNeese State and Southern.

Louisiana has more money and is in better financial shape than la tech. so there is no forcing Louisiana into anything, However, facts have never stopped you before, so carry on with this foolishness.

(03-15-2019 01:21 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  Remember the next realignment could actually leave some rejects behind. La.-Monroe is spending at the FCS levels, but some FCS spending at FBS levels. VCU is spending at the AAC level.

We need to look at all D1 football spending including FCS teams to show which teams need to drop down and others to move up. There are really not any difference between the top FCS schools and the middle of the pack G5 schools. Winning is something, but a conference losing at bowl games hurt the image of the whole conference (cough MAC and PAC 12.)

Split needs to happen if you do it the right way. Having 3 schools in the same conference will not work. La.-Monroe and maybe South Alabama could be the odd man out. Many of the schools do want schools like Missouri State and Chattanooga in. Lamar's football and basketball made a noise 2018/19 season. NDSU could help one of the 3 G5 conferences besides the AAC and MWC to be a threat for the access bowl. James Madison and South Dakota State are threats as well for the access spot. If you want to compete for the access spot? You need to look at other schools including FCS schools to beat out UCF, Boise State or Fresno State for that spot. Staying at the status quo will not get you over the hump.

I'm not sure why you're throwing out South Alabama as an example here. If you took all Sun Belt and C-USA schools and looked at the football budget for each, as of 2017 (2018 isn't available yet) South Alabama had the 4th largest football budget, behind only North Texas, Rice, and UTEP. South Alabama is also currently constructing a brand new $75 million dollar football stadium on campus, having just finished the Jaguar Training Center covered practice facility.

Newbies refuse to die when there are older programs doing much worse for longer.

(03-15-2019 11:23 PM)SkullyMaroo Wrote:  

(03-15-2019 01:21 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  Remember the next realignment could actually leave some rejects behind. La.-Monroe is spending at the FCS levels, but some FCS spending at FBS levels. VCU is spending at the AAC level.

We need to look at all D1 football spending including FCS teams to show which teams need to drop down and others to move up. There are really not any difference between the top FCS schools and the middle of the pack G5 schools. Winning is something, but a conference losing at bowl games hurt the image of the whole conference (cough MAC and PAC 12.)

Split needs to happen if you do it the right way. Having 3 schools in the same conference will not work. La.-Monroe and maybe South Alabama could be the odd man out. Many of the schools do want schools like Missouri State and Chattanooga in. Lamar's football and basketball made a noise 2018/19 season. NDSU could help one of the 3 G5 conferences besides the AAC and MWC to be a threat for the access bowl. James Madison and South Dakota State are threats as well for the access spot. If you want to compete for the access spot? You need to look at other schools including FCS schools to beat out UCF, Boise State or Fresno State for that spot. Staying at the status quo will not get you over the hump.

I'm not sure why you're throwing out South Alabama as an example here. If you took all Sun Belt and C-USA schools and looked at the football budget for each, as of 2017 (2018 isn't available yet) South Alabama had the 4th largest football budget, behind only North Texas, Rice, and UTEP. South Alabama is also currently constructing a brand new $75 million dollar football stadium on campus, having just finished the Jaguar Training Center covered practice facility.

I picked La.-Monroe and South Alabama because they are the bottom rung of the totem pole for football. Troy and UAB have winning records. If there are 2 teams that the great C-USA and SBC split and reconfigure? The conference lets say SBC, will take UAB and Troy because they both would have a chance at the access bowl. For Louisiana? La. Tech 1st and Louisiana-Lafayette would be 2nd. Louisiana having the smallest populated state does not need to have 5 FBS teams while the state of Pennsylvania, UMass., Washington and New York do not have that many when they are bigger in population.

But a conference is not a brain leading the body (schools). The Schools are in charge of the conference and vote their say and they wouldn't just look at a few recent years of certain sports and change the entire path of the conference.

(03-16-2019 03:14 PM)Yosef Himself Wrote:  But a conference is not a brain leading the body (schools). The Schools are in charge of the conference and vote their say and they wouldn't just look at a few recent years of certain sports and change the entire path of the conference.

The question would be if McNeese State stayed 1A independent instead of dropping down? Which school would the SBC pick? McNeese State or La.-Monroe? McNeese State have gone to bowl games in the 1970s and early 1980s.

(03-16-2019 03:14 PM)Yosef Himself Wrote:  But a conference is not a brain leading the body (schools). The Schools are in charge of the conference and vote their say and they wouldn't just look at a few recent years of certain sports and change the entire path of the conference.

It's useless to try to explain things to David; I'm guilty too. He does it his way and then there is how it is done in the real world.

(03-16-2019 04:36 PM)AZcats Wrote:  

(03-16-2019 03:14 PM)Yosef Himself Wrote:  But a conference is not a brain leading the body (schools). The Schools are in charge of the conference and vote their say and they wouldn't just look at a few recent years of certain sports and change the entire path of the conference.

It's useless to try to explain things to David; I'm guilty too. He does it his way and then there is how it is done in the real world.

You all also live in fantasy land as well. Tv markets do not sell too well. Quality>Quantity
There are better quality teams in the FCS better than La.-Monroe, South Alabama, Georgia State, Liberty, Coastal Carolina, New Mexico State, Texas State, Charlotte, San Jose State, Tulane, Tulsa, Eastern Michigan, Kent State and so forth. The conferences got to greedy going for tv markets for football that they failed on all counts. Football fans want quality of games that are competitive to watched.

(03-16-2019 05:01 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  

(03-16-2019 04:36 PM)AZcats Wrote:  

(03-16-2019 03:14 PM)Yosef Himself Wrote:  But a conference is not a brain leading the body (schools). The Schools are in charge of the conference and vote their say and they wouldn't just look at a few recent years of certain sports and change the entire path of the conference.

It's useless to try to explain things to David; I'm guilty too. He does it his way and then there is how it is done in the real world.

You all also live in fantasy land as well. Tv markets do not sell too well. Quality>Quantity
There are better quality teams in the FCS better than La.-Monroe, South Alabama, Georgia State, Liberty, Coastal Carolina, New Mexico State, Texas State, Charlotte, San Jose State, Tulane, Tulsa, Eastern Michigan, Kent State and so forth. The conferences got to greedy going for tv markets for football that they failed on all counts. Football fans want quality of games that are competitive to watched.

(03-16-2019 05:01 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  

(03-16-2019 04:36 PM)AZcats Wrote:  

(03-16-2019 03:14 PM)Yosef Himself Wrote:  But a conference is not a brain leading the body (schools). The Schools are in charge of the conference and vote their say and they wouldn't just look at a few recent years of certain sports and change the entire path of the conference.

It's useless to try to explain things to David; I'm guilty too. He does it his way and then there is how it is done in the real world.

You all also live in fantasy land as well. Tv markets do not sell too well. Quality>Quantity
There are better quality teams in the FCS better than La.-Monroe, South Alabama, Georgia State, Liberty, Coastal Carolina, New Mexico State, Texas State, Charlotte, San Jose State, Tulane, Tulsa, Eastern Michigan, Kent State and so forth. The conferences got to greedy going for tv markets for football that they failed on all counts. Football fans want quality of games that are competitive to watched.

Yes there are some FCS schools that are better football programs than some of those you listed. However playing FBS requires an extra commitment for scholarships in men and women sports. Probably more travel costs for all sports too. The schools you listed have made that commitment that any FCS school hasn't.

(03-16-2019 05:01 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  

(03-16-2019 04:36 PM)AZcats Wrote:  

(03-16-2019 03:14 PM)Yosef Himself Wrote:  But a conference is not a brain leading the body (schools). The Schools are in charge of the conference and vote their say and they wouldn't just look at a few recent years of certain sports and change the entire path of the conference.

It's useless to try to explain things to David; I'm guilty too. He does it his way and then there is how it is done in the real world.

You all also live in fantasy land as well. Tv markets do not sell too well. Quality>Quantity
There are better quality teams in the FCS better than La.-Monroe, South Alabama, Georgia State, Liberty, Coastal Carolina, New Mexico State, Texas State, Charlotte, San Jose State, Tulane, Tulsa, Eastern Michigan, Kent State and so forth. The conferences got to greedy going for tv markets for football that they failed on all counts. Football fans want quality of games that are competitive to watched.

Monroe, Louisiana. What a large media market.

(03-15-2019 05:07 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  

(03-15-2019 04:49 PM)freshtop Wrote:  

(03-15-2019 01:47 PM)Yosef Himself Wrote:  There is only a finite amount of money that the CFP pays out to the G5. No teams are going to be called up while that amount is $1mil per team up to 10 teams unless a conference drops below that 10 team threshold.

No team is going to get voted out of a conference either.

No one will be voted out, but I could see some Universities tightening up the belt strings if their athletic programs aren't a net positive. The academic bubble is dangerously close to bursting.

If Louisiana politicians decide, you could see schools merge, and non-LSU/La. Tech schools be forced into one conference which La.-Monroe and La-Lafayette could be in the FCS in the same conference with McNeese State and Southern.

1. The only school Louisiana politicians give a **** about is LSU. If they’re forcing schools into FCS (which they won’t) they’d include Tech in that.

2. Southern is in the SWAC with Grambling, not the Southland like the rest of the Louisiana FCS schools. Are you implying that state politicians would try to break up the SWAC?

(03-16-2019 09:01 PM)seaking4steel Wrote:  

(03-16-2019 05:01 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  

(03-16-2019 04:36 PM)AZcats Wrote:  

(03-16-2019 03:14 PM)Yosef Himself Wrote:  But a conference is not a brain leading the body (schools). The Schools are in charge of the conference and vote their say and they wouldn't just look at a few recent years of certain sports and change the entire path of the conference.

It's useless to try to explain things to David; I'm guilty too. He does it his way and then there is how it is done in the real world.

You all also live in fantasy land as well. Tv markets do not sell too well. Quality>Quantity
There are better quality teams in the FCS better than La.-Monroe, South Alabama, Georgia State, Liberty, Coastal Carolina, New Mexico State, Texas State, Charlotte, San Jose State, Tulane, Tulsa, Eastern Michigan, Kent State and so forth. The conferences got to greedy going for tv markets for football that they failed on all counts. Football fans want quality of games that are competitive to watched.

Monroe, Louisiana. What a large media market.

#137 out of 210 to be exact https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_...on_markets

(03-16-2019 11:43 PM)debragga Wrote:  

(03-16-2019 09:01 PM)seaking4steel Wrote:  Monroe, Louisiana. What a large media market.

#137 out of 210 to be exact https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_...on_markets

And sharing that market with Louisiana Tech. This is the biggest stumbling block, in my opinion, to these C-USA and Sunbelt merger threads.

(03-17-2019 10:19 AM)ESE84 Wrote:  

(03-16-2019 11:43 PM)debragga Wrote:  

(03-16-2019 09:01 PM)seaking4steel Wrote:  Monroe, Louisiana. What a large media market.

#137 out of 210 to be exact https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_...on_markets

And sharing that market with Louisiana Tech. This is the biggest stumbling block, in my opinion, to these C-USA and Sunbelt merger threads.

I keep saying its not the stumbling block, others make it out to be. If every other school was in agreement, this La tech/ ULM thing would not stop that train. they are an easy excuse, because la tech is openly verbal about it.

(03-16-2019 04:36 PM)AZcats Wrote:  

(03-16-2019 03:14 PM)Yosef Himself Wrote:  But a conference is not a brain leading the body (schools). The Schools are in charge of the conference and vote their say and they wouldn't just look at a few recent years of certain sports and change the entire path of the conference.

It's useless to try to explain things to David; I'm guilty too. He does it his way and then there is how it is done in the real world.

Correct. david only throws out foolishness to get reactions. if confronted with facts, he will ignore them , and throw something else foolish out to redirect.