(08-30-2018 11:25 AM)BadgerMJ Wrote:  

(08-30-2018 11:02 AM)goofus Wrote:  https://www.wsj.com/articles/college-foo...1535634001

New article shows that actual attendance is only 71% of reported paid attendance.

I can see why, not just for college football, but sports in general.

As for college football.

1) With the chances of a 2 loss team making it to the CFP being slim to none, schools have watered down their schedules for non conference games. Some will occasionally play a big game, but it's the exception, not the norm anymore.

Really? Look at all the marquee neutral site games being played this weekend.

As for losses, they have always mattered the most. Was the same during the BCS era, in 20 years, the only time a team with two losses played for the championship was LSU in 2007, and that was a fluke year when loads of teams had multiple losses so somebody had to. And before the BCS, when it was strictly the polls, nobody won a national title at least after 1970 with two losses.

Nothing has changed with the CFP, except that SOS is even more important, because there are likely to be a few one loss teams vying for a spot. E.g., in 2016 and 2017, Ohio State and Oklahoma (respectively) were helped in making the playoffs because they beat each other in big OOC games.

(08-30-2018 02:24 PM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  

(08-30-2018 12:15 PM)Titans3775 Wrote:  

(08-30-2018 12:11 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  

(08-30-2018 11:59 AM)Titans3775 Wrote:  

(08-30-2018 11:20 AM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  USF actually has the second BEST attendance in regards to announced vs. actual in the AAC according to this article. Not all schools reported. You can do a search of schools in the article.

USF - 71% (31K announced, 22K actual)
Memphis - 54% (38K announced, 21K actual)
ECU - 48% (38K announced, 17K actual)
Houston - 66% (28K announced, 18K actual)
UConn - 70% (20K announced, 14K actual)
Navy - 100% (28K announced, 28K actual)
Cincinnati - 54% (28K announced, 15K actual)

Memphis announces actual attendance not tickets sold despite what the article says. There were two games last year where announced attendance was below season ticket sales. Memphis likely leads to conference in actual attendance in football most years and will easily lead it again in basketball this year.

If Memphis announces actual how is it possible that actual and announced don't match up?

They do match up. That is what I am saying. Not sure where the article gets its numbers. You would be hard pressed to find a game attendance where announced and actual didn't match in recent years. I don't know why we don't do announced in football because basketball does do it. If anything I would think you would want it to be inflated by using announced because it looks better. Memphis fans were pissed last year because using actual tanked our average attendance due to the hurricane game and 2 other rain games.

The article got their numbers DIRECTLY FROM MEMPHIS, through an open records request. If they were wrong, they would have been corrected before being sent in.

Memphis sold over 22k season tickets last year. Does it make any sense that their actual attendance would be lower than their season ticket sales for a team that went undefeated at home and 10-3 on the year and beat ranked UCLA and Navy at home? Not to mention a plethora of recorded youtube games from last year tell me how ridiculous 21k is. Trust me, they are not accurate.

(08-30-2018 02:34 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(08-30-2018 11:20 AM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  

(08-30-2018 11:11 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(08-30-2018 11:06 AM)goofus Wrote:  SCHOOLs with most no shows

ANNOUNCED ATTENDANCE. SCANNED TICKETS

Coastal Carolina* 89,754 15,248
Louisiana Monroe 49,640 13,302
Buffalo 80,102 22,233
Eastern Michigan 73,649 23,282
Miami (Ohio) 98,666 35,582
Akron. 117,416 43,675
Arkansas State 119,538 45,631
San Jose State 85,235. 33,892
Ohio U. 116,325 47,579
UTEP 97,740 45,444

So maybe now USF won't get pounded so much about this?

USF actually has the second BEST attendance in regards to announced vs. actual in the AAC according to this article. Not all schools reported. You can do a search of schools in the article.

USF - 71% (31K announced, 22K actual)
Memphis - 54% (38K announced, 21K actual)
ECU - 48% (38K announced, 17K actual)
Houston - 66% (28K announced, 18K actual)
UConn - 70% (20K announced, 14K actual)
Navy - 100% (28K announced, 28K actual)
Cincinnati - 54% (28K announced, 15K actual)

Damn, well since I'm banned over there, you need to spread this word on the AAC board, because that place is full of clowns who constantly hammer us for our allegedly inflated attendance numbers.

There is a thread on this on AAC board and needless to say, people have excuses for their attendance numbers.

(08-30-2018 12:39 PM)Titans3775 Wrote:  

(08-30-2018 12:21 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  

(08-30-2018 12:15 PM)Titans3775 Wrote:  

(08-30-2018 12:11 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  

(08-30-2018 11:59 AM)Titans3775 Wrote:  Memphis announces actual attendance not tickets sold despite what the article says. There were two games last year where announced attendance was below season ticket sales. Memphis likely leads to conference in actual attendance in football most years and will easily lead it again in basketball this year.

If Memphis announces actual how is it possible that actual and announced don't match up?

They do match up. That is what I am saying. Not sure where the article gets its numbers. You would be hard pressed to find a game attendance where announced and actual didn't match in recent years. I don't know why we don't do announced in football because basketball does do it. If anything I would think you would want it to be inflated by using announced because it looks better. Memphis fans were pissed last year because using actual tanked our average attendance due to the hurricane game and 2 other rain games.

Well WSJ says Memphis announced 38k but scanned 21k admissions. Presumably they obtained that via freedom of information from the university.

Yea and that is totally bogus.

Yea, and we're supposed to believe you instead of the Wall Street Journal because ... ?

(08-30-2018 02:40 PM)Titans3775 Wrote:  

(08-30-2018 02:24 PM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  

(08-30-2018 12:15 PM)Titans3775 Wrote:  

(08-30-2018 12:11 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  

(08-30-2018 11:59 AM)Titans3775 Wrote:  Memphis announces actual attendance not tickets sold despite what the article says. There were two games last year where announced attendance was below season ticket sales. Memphis likely leads to conference in actual attendance in football most years and will easily lead it again in basketball this year.

If Memphis announces actual how is it possible that actual and announced don't match up?

They do match up. That is what I am saying. Not sure where the article gets its numbers. You would be hard pressed to find a game attendance where announced and actual didn't match in recent years. I don't know why we don't do announced in football because basketball does do it. If anything I would think you would want it to be inflated by using announced because it looks better. Memphis fans were pissed last year because using actual tanked our average attendance due to the hurricane game and 2 other rain games.

The article got their numbers DIRECTLY FROM MEMPHIS, through an open records request. If they were wrong, they would have been corrected before being sent in.

Memphis sold over 22k season tickets last year. Does it make any sense that their actual attendance would be lower than their season ticket sales for a team that went undefeated at home and 10-3 on the year and beat ranked UCLA and Navy at home? Not to mention a plethora of recorded youtube games from last year tell me how ridiculous 21k is. Trust me, they are not accurate.

Just because someone bought a ticket, doesn't mean they showed up and scanned them at the gates.

(08-30-2018 02:45 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(08-30-2018 12:39 PM)Titans3775 Wrote:  

(08-30-2018 12:21 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  

(08-30-2018 12:15 PM)Titans3775 Wrote:  

(08-30-2018 12:11 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  If Memphis announces actual how is it possible that actual and announced don't match up?

They do match up. That is what I am saying. Not sure where the article gets its numbers. You would be hard pressed to find a game attendance where announced and actual didn't match in recent years. I don't know why we don't do announced in football because basketball does do it. If anything I would think you would want it to be inflated by using announced because it looks better. Memphis fans were pissed last year because using actual tanked our average attendance due to the hurricane game and 2 other rain games.

Well WSJ says Memphis announced 38k but scanned 21k admissions. Presumably they obtained that via freedom of information from the university.

Yea and that is totally bogus.

Yea, and we're supposed to believe you instead of the Wall Street Journal because ... ?

Because I don't blindly believe print media on a subject that they know nothing about? Or maybe I have been to alot of Memphis games? Or maybe I have eyes? I don't know take your pick. It takes all of 10 seconds to go look the games up on youtube yourself rather than blindly follow a news article.

(08-30-2018 02:49 PM)Mestophalies Wrote:  

(08-30-2018 02:40 PM)Titans3775 Wrote:  

(08-30-2018 02:24 PM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  

(08-30-2018 12:15 PM)Titans3775 Wrote:  

(08-30-2018 12:11 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  If Memphis announces actual how is it possible that actual and announced don't match up?

They do match up. That is what I am saying. Not sure where the article gets its numbers. You would be hard pressed to find a game attendance where announced and actual didn't match in recent years. I don't know why we don't do announced in football because basketball does do it. If anything I would think you would want it to be inflated by using announced because it looks better. Memphis fans were pissed last year because using actual tanked our average attendance due to the hurricane game and 2 other rain games.

The article got their numbers DIRECTLY FROM MEMPHIS, through an open records request. If they were wrong, they would have been corrected before being sent in.

Memphis sold over 22k season tickets last year. Does it make any sense that their actual attendance would be lower than their season ticket sales for a team that went undefeated at home and 10-3 on the year and beat ranked UCLA and Navy at home? Not to mention a plethora of recorded youtube games from last year tell me how ridiculous 21k is. Trust me, they are not accurate.

Just because someone bought a ticket, doesn't mean they showed up and scanned them at the gates.

Yea assuming there is no walkup crowd for any game all year. Not to rag on USF, but having seen quite a few of their games there is a stark difference in attendance between the two schools.

(08-30-2018 02:54 PM)Titans3775 Wrote:  

(08-30-2018 02:49 PM)Mestophalies Wrote:  

(08-30-2018 02:40 PM)Titans3775 Wrote:  

(08-30-2018 02:24 PM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  

(08-30-2018 12:15 PM)Titans3775 Wrote:  They do match up. That is what I am saying. Not sure where the article gets its numbers. You would be hard pressed to find a game attendance where announced and actual didn't match in recent years. I don't know why we don't do announced in football because basketball does do it. If anything I would think you would want it to be inflated by using announced because it looks better. Memphis fans were pissed last year because using actual tanked our average attendance due to the hurricane game and 2 other rain games.

The article got their numbers DIRECTLY FROM MEMPHIS, through an open records request. If they were wrong, they would have been corrected before being sent in.

Memphis sold over 22k season tickets last year. Does it make any sense that their actual attendance would be lower than their season ticket sales for a team that went undefeated at home and 10-3 on the year and beat ranked UCLA and Navy at home? Not to mention a plethora of recorded youtube games from last year tell me how ridiculous 21k is. Trust me, they are not accurate.

Just because someone bought a ticket, doesn't mean they showed up and scanned them at the gates.

Yea assuming there is no walkup crowd for any game all year. Not to rag on USF, but having seen quite a few of their games there is a stark difference in attendance between the two schools.

Problem is, you "see" these games through the eyes of a Memphis fan, that biases your perception.

The actual facts say differently.

(08-30-2018 02:57 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(08-30-2018 02:54 PM)Titans3775 Wrote:  

(08-30-2018 02:49 PM)Mestophalies Wrote:  

(08-30-2018 02:40 PM)Titans3775 Wrote:  

(08-30-2018 02:24 PM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  The article got their numbers DIRECTLY FROM MEMPHIS, through an open records request. If they were wrong, they would have been corrected before being sent in.

Memphis sold over 22k season tickets last year. Does it make any sense that their actual attendance would be lower than their season ticket sales for a team that went undefeated at home and 10-3 on the year and beat ranked UCLA and Navy at home? Not to mention a plethora of recorded youtube games from last year tell me how ridiculous 21k is. Trust me, they are not accurate.

Just because someone bought a ticket, doesn't mean they showed up and scanned them at the gates.

Yea assuming there is no walkup crowd for any game all year. Not to rag on USF, but having seen quite a few of their games there is a stark difference in attendance between the two schools.

Problem is, you "see" these games through the eyes of a Memphis fan, that biases your perception.

The actual facts say differently.

He has good points. And the one or two Memphis games I saw looked a lot better than 21k. I suspect in some of these schools they aren't counting students. Some places they just show their ID and get in.

(08-30-2018 02:54 PM)Titans3775 Wrote:  

(08-30-2018 02:49 PM)Mestophalies Wrote:  

(08-30-2018 02:40 PM)Titans3775 Wrote:  

(08-30-2018 02:24 PM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  

(08-30-2018 12:15 PM)Titans3775 Wrote:  They do match up. That is what I am saying. Not sure where the article gets its numbers. You would be hard pressed to find a game attendance where announced and actual didn't match in recent years. I don't know why we don't do announced in football because basketball does do it. If anything I would think you would want it to be inflated by using announced because it looks better. Memphis fans were pissed last year because using actual tanked our average attendance due to the hurricane game and 2 other rain games.

The article got their numbers DIRECTLY FROM MEMPHIS, through an open records request. If they were wrong, they would have been corrected before being sent in.

Memphis sold over 22k season tickets last year. Does it make any sense that their actual attendance would be lower than their season ticket sales for a team that went undefeated at home and 10-3 on the year and beat ranked UCLA and Navy at home? Not to mention a plethora of recorded youtube games from last year tell me how ridiculous 21k is. Trust me, they are not accurate.

Just because someone bought a ticket, doesn't mean they showed up and scanned them at the gates.

Yea assuming there is no walkup crowd for any game all year. Not to rag on USF, but having seen quite a few of their games there is a stark difference in attendance between the two schools.

Dude, pull your panties out of your backside. I merely stated that just because a ticket is sold doesn't mean it is used. There are many reasons for a dip in attendance. There could have been storms, major accidents blocking transportation routs. Who knows, anything can happen. Just because the numbers aren't what you believe they should be doesn't make them wrong. By the same token, just because they're reported doesn't make them right. The numbers were provided (Purportedly) by your school, so they should be accurate.

Now go whine to someone else.

(08-30-2018 02:57 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(08-30-2018 02:54 PM)Titans3775 Wrote:  

(08-30-2018 02:49 PM)Mestophalies Wrote:  

(08-30-2018 02:40 PM)Titans3775 Wrote:  

(08-30-2018 02:24 PM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  The article got their numbers DIRECTLY FROM MEMPHIS, through an open records request. If they were wrong, they would have been corrected before being sent in.

Memphis sold over 22k season tickets last year. Does it make any sense that their actual attendance would be lower than their season ticket sales for a team that went undefeated at home and 10-3 on the year and beat ranked UCLA and Navy at home? Not to mention a plethora of recorded youtube games from last year tell me how ridiculous 21k is. Trust me, they are not accurate.

Just because someone bought a ticket, doesn't mean they showed up and scanned them at the gates.

Yea assuming there is no walkup crowd for any game all year. Not to rag on USF, but having seen quite a few of their games there is a stark difference in attendance between the two schools.

Problem is, you "see" these games through the eyes of a Memphis fan, that biases your perception.

The actual facts say differently.

You've got eyes. Go back up your actual facts by watching the games. If you had actually ever seen a Memphis football game, you might understand why this data is laughable.

(08-30-2018 02:54 PM)Titans3775 Wrote:  

(08-30-2018 02:49 PM)Mestophalies Wrote:  

(08-30-2018 02:40 PM)Titans3775 Wrote:  

(08-30-2018 02:24 PM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  

(08-30-2018 12:15 PM)Titans3775 Wrote:  They do match up. That is what I am saying. Not sure where the article gets its numbers. You would be hard pressed to find a game attendance where announced and actual didn't match in recent years. I don't know why we don't do announced in football because basketball does do it. If anything I would think you would want it to be inflated by using announced because it looks better. Memphis fans were pissed last year because using actual tanked our average attendance due to the hurricane game and 2 other rain games.

The article got their numbers DIRECTLY FROM MEMPHIS, through an open records request. If they were wrong, they would have been corrected before being sent in.

Memphis sold over 22k season tickets last year. Does it make any sense that their actual attendance would be lower than their season ticket sales for a team that went undefeated at home and 10-3 on the year and beat ranked UCLA and Navy at home? Not to mention a plethora of recorded youtube games from last year tell me how ridiculous 21k is. Trust me, they are not accurate.

Just because someone bought a ticket, doesn't mean they showed up and scanned them at the gates.

Yea assuming there is no walkup crowd for any game all year. Not to rag on USF, but having seen quite a few of their games there is a stark difference in attendance between the two schools.

No, there really isn't. First of all, RJS (Bucs stadium) is larger, making equal crowds seem smaller, and secondly, the side you see on TV of USF games is the sparser away side. If the camera were panned to the home side continually, you would see a fuller crowd.

(08-30-2018 02:51 PM)Titans3775 Wrote:  

(08-30-2018 02:45 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(08-30-2018 12:39 PM)Titans3775 Wrote:  

(08-30-2018 12:21 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  

(08-30-2018 12:15 PM)Titans3775 Wrote:  They do match up. That is what I am saying. Not sure where the article gets its numbers. You would be hard pressed to find a game attendance where announced and actual didn't match in recent years. I don't know why we don't do announced in football because basketball does do it. If anything I would think you would want it to be inflated by using announced because it looks better. Memphis fans were pissed last year because using actual tanked our average attendance due to the hurricane game and 2 other rain games.

Well WSJ says Memphis announced 38k but scanned 21k admissions. Presumably they obtained that via freedom of information from the university.

Yea and that is totally bogus.

Yea, and we're supposed to believe you instead of the Wall Street Journal because ... ?

Because I don't blindly believe print media on a subject that they know nothing about? Or maybe I have been to alot of Memphis games? Or maybe I have eyes? I don't know take your pick. It takes all of 10 seconds to go look the games up on youtube yourself rather than blindly follow a news article.

Has nothing to do with knowledge on a subject. The numbers provided to the WSJ were hard and fast numbers provided directly by the SCHOOLS THEMSELVES, through an open records request.

If they numbers were wrong, blame your school for providing inaccurate numbers.

(08-30-2018 03:02 PM)Mestophalies Wrote:  

(08-30-2018 02:54 PM)Titans3775 Wrote:  

(08-30-2018 02:49 PM)Mestophalies Wrote:  

(08-30-2018 02:40 PM)Titans3775 Wrote:  

(08-30-2018 02:24 PM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  The article got their numbers DIRECTLY FROM MEMPHIS, through an open records request. If they were wrong, they would have been corrected before being sent in.

Memphis sold over 22k season tickets last year. Does it make any sense that their actual attendance would be lower than their season ticket sales for a team that went undefeated at home and 10-3 on the year and beat ranked UCLA and Navy at home? Not to mention a plethora of recorded youtube games from last year tell me how ridiculous 21k is. Trust me, they are not accurate.

Just because someone bought a ticket, doesn't mean they showed up and scanned them at the gates.

Yea assuming there is no walkup crowd for any game all year. Not to rag on USF, but having seen quite a few of their games there is a stark difference in attendance between the two schools.

Dude, pull your panties out of your backside. I merely stated that just because a ticket is sold doesn't mean it is used. There are many reasons for a dip in attendance. There could have been storms, major accidents blocking transportation routs. Who knows, anything can happen. Just because the numbers aren't what you believe they should be doesn't make them wrong. By the same token, just because they're reported doesn't make them right. The numbers were provided (Purportedly) by your school, so they should be accurate.

Now go whine to someone else.

The issue is the difference between actual and announced. Memphis announces extremely close to actual (if not actual). Storms have no affect on that because it isn't a measure of the average. Memphis reported 10k and 17k for our two storm games last year and both looked very accurate based on the stadium shots.

(08-30-2018 03:05 PM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  

(08-30-2018 02:54 PM)Titans3775 Wrote:  

(08-30-2018 02:49 PM)Mestophalies Wrote:  

(08-30-2018 02:40 PM)Titans3775 Wrote:  

(08-30-2018 02:24 PM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  The article got their numbers DIRECTLY FROM MEMPHIS, through an open records request. If they were wrong, they would have been corrected before being sent in.

Memphis sold over 22k season tickets last year. Does it make any sense that their actual attendance would be lower than their season ticket sales for a team that went undefeated at home and 10-3 on the year and beat ranked UCLA and Navy at home? Not to mention a plethora of recorded youtube games from last year tell me how ridiculous 21k is. Trust me, they are not accurate.

Just because someone bought a ticket, doesn't mean they showed up and scanned them at the gates.

Yea assuming there is no walkup crowd for any game all year. Not to rag on USF, but having seen quite a few of their games there is a stark difference in attendance between the two schools.

No, there really isn't. First of all, RJS (Bucs stadium) is larger, making equal crowds seem smaller, and secondly, the side you see on TV of USF games is the sparser away side. If the camera were panned to the home side continually, you would see a fuller crowd.

That comparison might work if you were talking about the other baby stadiums in the AAC, but not with Memphis. The Liberty Bowl is 60k and RJS is 65K.

(08-30-2018 03:11 PM)Titans3775 Wrote:  

(08-30-2018 03:05 PM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  

(08-30-2018 02:54 PM)Titans3775 Wrote:  

(08-30-2018 02:49 PM)Mestophalies Wrote:  

(08-30-2018 02:40 PM)Titans3775 Wrote:  Memphis sold over 22k season tickets last year. Does it make any sense that their actual attendance would be lower than their season ticket sales for a team that went undefeated at home and 10-3 on the year and beat ranked UCLA and Navy at home? Not to mention a plethora of recorded youtube games from last year tell me how ridiculous 21k is. Trust me, they are not accurate.

Just because someone bought a ticket, doesn't mean they showed up and scanned them at the gates.

Yea assuming there is no walkup crowd for any game all year. Not to rag on USF, but having seen quite a few of their games there is a stark difference in attendance between the two schools.

No, there really isn't. First of all, RJS (Bucs stadium) is larger, making equal crowds seem smaller, and secondly, the side you see on TV of USF games is the sparser away side. If the camera were panned to the home side continually, you would see a fuller crowd.

That comparison might work if you were talking about the other baby stadiums in the AAC, but not with Memphis. The Liberty Bowl is 60k and RJS is 65K.

OK, fair enough, but what you need to realize is that 99% of the time when seeing a USF game you are looking at the (much in some cases) sparser AWAY side of the stadium, thus skewing the view for casual viewers and giving them an inaccurate impression of the crowd size.

It seems to me that the NCAA needs to mandate a standard set of criteria for attendance reporting.

(08-30-2018 03:01 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(08-30-2018 02:57 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(08-30-2018 02:54 PM)Titans3775 Wrote:  

(08-30-2018 02:49 PM)Mestophalies Wrote:  

(08-30-2018 02:40 PM)Titans3775 Wrote:  Memphis sold over 22k season tickets last year. Does it make any sense that their actual attendance would be lower than their season ticket sales for a team that went undefeated at home and 10-3 on the year and beat ranked UCLA and Navy at home? Not to mention a plethora of recorded youtube games from last year tell me how ridiculous 21k is. Trust me, they are not accurate.

Just because someone bought a ticket, doesn't mean they showed up and scanned them at the gates.

Yea assuming there is no walkup crowd for any game all year. Not to rag on USF, but having seen quite a few of their games there is a stark difference in attendance between the two schools.

Problem is, you "see" these games through the eyes of a Memphis fan, that biases your perception.

The actual facts say differently.

He has good points. And the one or two Memphis games I saw looked a lot better than 21k. I suspect in some of these schools they aren't counting students. Some places they just show their ID and get in.

I remember attending a few UTEP games where the announced attendance (usually in the 3rd Q) was 38k and it looked like 48k. I remember when Oklahoma played at UTEP a few years ago, the Sun Bowl looked like it had 52k but the announced crowd was 40k.

As for the thread, I’m not surprised to see UTEP on that list after a winless season.

(08-30-2018 07:16 PM)Fighting Muskie Wrote:  It seems to me that the NCAA needs to mandate a standard set of criteria for attendance reporting.

Don't hold your breath. There are minimum standards for attendance if you are going to be FBS. The NCAA will be the last entity to demote.

(08-30-2018 07:31 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(08-30-2018 07:16 PM)Fighting Muskie Wrote:  It seems to me that the NCAA needs to mandate a standard set of criteria for attendance reporting.

Don't hold your breath. There are minimum standards for attendance if you are going to be FBS. The NCAA will be the last entity to demote.

Didn’t they try that earlier this century? Schools had to average at least 15k three out of four years to stay in Div I-A as it was called back then. I remember seeing the likes of Idaho and EMU on that list but as expcted, it was never enforced.